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Man who bought ‘residential’ firehouse sued by Seattle - for using as residence

 
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The article says it was advertised as "residential." He bought it as such. The municipal government is just trying to fleece the guy. this is that Marxist shithole Seattle - Communists gonna do what Communists gonna do. You make it, they take it.
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There was a third party involved, a real estate agent perhaps, who I assume was the party that advertised the property as unique residential. That real estate agent should have errors and omissions insurance and should be the party that was sued, not the city if my assumptions are correct.
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Just take the word, firehouse off. Problem solved.
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Hey in a bass akward place like Seattle, why not just change the sign to
“HouseFire 38” And call it a gallery !
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burn the place down and tell the authorities to go fuck themselves.
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Didn't someone tell him about this when he applied for permits to remodel the place?

Zoning = basic shit to know before buying real estate.

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 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


The city sold the property as a residence.
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The property should have been re-zoned to residential before selling it to this guy.

There were complaints, he must have a lot of traffic and cars coming and going to this place. He probably AirBNB's it to people for a big monthly haul. Or worse, has big parties there with cars parking all over the neighborhood, annoying all neighbors.

The real problem is he is using a residential place as a commercial place, and the neighbors are complaining. The property could be re-zoned to residential by the city, so why won't the city do that? And then they would limit his commercial activity in his residence, because it's affecting his neighborhood.
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Literally half of what you said is counter to the interview and the article. And the other half you just made up.

Nice work.
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It's not hard to guess what's going on. Have you proved me wrong?
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He didn't pay the protection money.
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The Firehouse came with the most Epic Stripper Pole Ever! Worth Every Penny! Fuck 'em. Make it a Strip Joint since Seattle says it can not be a residence.

MAGA
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I'm happy he had money for a lawyer. Gov always tries to bully people.
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Without organization, building codes, and the like we would end up looking like the slums in Mexico all slapped together and stacked on top of each other...
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Sign codes, at a local levels, is a way to keep a community from becoming a commercialized slum...
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The Firehouse came with the most Epic Stripper Pole Ever! Worth Every Penny! Fuck 'em. Make it a Strip Joint since Seattle says it can not be a residence.

MAGA
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Yeah hell they're throwing big parties all the time, probably selling tickets to the events there, and all the parking spots in the neighborhood are being taken up by the party goers.
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blinkerrose Reading between the lines I think he was running the place as a venue. As a neighbour I don't go looking for things to be offended about. but it's obvious from what he admitted that he's causing problems and they seem to be justified about complaining.. I'd say quiet family residence or else...
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I'm happy he had money for a lawyer. Gov always tries to bully people.
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Without organization, building codes, and the like we would end up looking like the slums in Mexico all slapped together and stacked on top of each other...
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They are WAY BETTER than an American city.

Moron.

Oh, so get some crap from CNN with Pedro's donkey and house of sticks and call that Mexico.

MORON.

Mexico blows America away in the housing department. Not even close.
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Mexican homes are built so well they don't need air conditioning. American homes are such crap that even with R-280 insulation they get hot as hell without AC, FOR WHAT? Build the house right and it won't be a sweat box.
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Mexican homes are built of poured concrete due to a lack of wood resources. Mexicans don't install AC because they can't afford it, not because they don't want it.

Most of Mexico is seismically active and concrete homes do not fare well in an earthquake.

In most of the houses the electrical is a total accident waiting to happen - basically no electric code.

Sewer lines are substandard and cannot handle toilet paper, which must be tossed in a separe trash can next to the toilet.

In many areas, water supplies are only on for part of the day, so houses must fill a cistern to supply water for the whole day.

Most houses have no hot water. For hot showers, a suicide shower may be used.
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Everyone here arguing about zoning whether in defense or against the guy is a statist government d*xk sucking cuck.
Every American should be able to do whatever they want with their property. Zoning should not be a thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77172304


I disagree. Let the home based auto repair guy or the AirBNB, or the daycare move in next to your house and see how you like it.
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America is a liberal hell hole that is filled now with homeless druggies and mental patients with stinking, putrid aromatic piss and shit odors emanating fro every crevice of the once great country.

What a shame. Evil destroys, horrifically!
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Re: Man who bought ‘residential’ firehouse sued by Seattle - for using as residence
SEATTLE — Kroon purchased the property from the City of Seattle in a 2012 auction.

Kroon told KIRO 7 he “thought we had essentially bought a residential property” for $712,000.

The Seattle man then spent thousands of dollars on interior remodeling, and for more than three years, his extended family and friends used the firehouse for holidays, celebrations, charity fundraisers, graduation parties and as an office until a Land Use Notice of Violation arrived in July of 2016.

According to the City of Seattle's violation letter, a "complaint about this property" had been received. A Housing and Zoning Inspector "investigated" and found "violations of the Seattle Land Use Code."

[link to www.kiro7.com (secure)]
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Everyone here arguing about zoning whether in defense or against the guy is a statist government d*xk sucking cuck.
Every American should be able to do whatever they want with their property. Zoning should not be a thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77172304


I disagree. Let the home based auto repair guy or the AirBNB, or the daycare move in next to your house and see how you like it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28925333


It's mostly about traffic, parking spots being taken up, and maybe noise problems from the place. You can't just turn a house into a bar and charge for alcohol / drinks. Drunk drivers leaving the place and swerving down the road...

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I'm happy he had money for a lawyer. Gov always tries to bully people.
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Without organization, building codes, and the like we would end up looking like the slums in Mexico all slapped together and stacked on top of each other...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Remember that tennant apartment that was owned by some hippies a couple years back, kind of a weird commune place that a man and his wife owned let dozens rent in pressured them into not complaining. They didnt follow basic coding and had pallets for stairs. It caught fire and burned up 20 or so people in a flaming inferno and the hippies were all shocked people were mad at him and he wasnt to blame. Codes are for conservatives not liberals kind of thingy.
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ghost ship warehouse

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Your own article except says he was making money off the place. Hosting it out for receptions and parties.

Hardly a residence.
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I didn’t see that. It stated it was used as an office and to host gatherings of extended family & friends, not that it was used as a commercial event facility. It also says that the city claimed the only legal use of the property was a fire station.
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Everyone here arguing about zoning whether in defense or against the guy is a statist government d*xk sucking cuck.
Every American should be able to do whatever they want with their property. Zoning should not be a thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77172304


I disagree. Let the home based auto repair guy or the AirBNB, or the daycare move in next to your house and see how you like it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28925333


It's mostly about traffic, parking spots being taken up, and maybe noise problems from the place. You can't just turn a house into a bar and charge for alcohol / drinks. Drunk drivers leaving the place and swerving down the road...
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


If I wanted to live next to a hotel I would have bought a house there.

These laws exist because there are scumbags like this guy who have no problem annoying the shit out of all their neighbors.
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Your own article except says he was making money off the place. Hosting it out for receptions and parties.

Hardly a residence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78344830


I didn’t see that. It stated it was used as an office and to host gatherings of extended family & friends, not that it was used as a commercial event facility. It also says that the city claimed the only legal use of the property was a fire station.
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So the city expected someone to open a private fire service?

Yeah right. We haven't had those in the states for like 100 years now.
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Everyone here arguing about zoning whether in defense or against the guy is a statist government d*xk sucking cuck.
Every American should be able to do whatever they want with their property. Zoning should not be a thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77172304


I disagree. Let the home based auto repair guy or the AirBNB, or the daycare move in next to your house and see how you like it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28925333


It's mostly about traffic, parking spots being taken up, and maybe noise problems from the place. You can't just turn a house into a bar and charge for alcohol / drinks. Drunk drivers leaving the place and swerving down the road...
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


If I wanted to live next to a hotel I would have bought a house there.

These laws exist because there are scumbags like this guy who have no problem annoying the shit out of all their neighbors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28925333


I would be willing to bet that an occasional party would be much batter than a 24/7 functioning fire house, as far as noise is concerned.
Those trucks are not quiet when they leave in a hurry.

Neighbors nay also be wanting the firehouse back because their insurance rates would be raised when the fire house stopped being a fire house
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Everyone here arguing about zoning whether in defense or against the guy is a statist government d*xk sucking cuck.
Every American should be able to do whatever they want with their property. Zoning should not be a thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77172304


I disagree. Let the home based auto repair guy or the AirBNB, or the daycare move in next to your house and see how you like it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28925333


It's mostly about traffic, parking spots being taken up, and maybe noise problems from the place. You can't just turn a house into a bar and charge for alcohol / drinks. Drunk drivers leaving the place and swerving down the road...
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


Jesus Christ Dude, the city is complaining that he is using it as a residence as per the video and article. While it is zoned as a public facility.



"Kroon was ordered to "discontinue all unauthorized uses including but not limited to office and residence" because "the legally established use of the property is as a public facility (fire station.)"



I tried to point out your error and you literally doubled down on stupid.
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Are you people drunk?

Does anyone actually read anymore?


Hell, all you had to do was watch the 3 minute video.



The mental capacity of this site is screwed.
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Just take the word, firehouse off. Problem solved.
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HE SHOULD INSURE IT AND THEN...SET IT ON 'FIRE'..UH.

A FIRE-HOUSE..A HOUSE OF FIRE..
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Your own article except says he was making money off the place. Hosting it out for receptions and parties.

Hardly a residence.
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I didn’t see that. It stated it was used as an office and to host gatherings of extended family & friends, not that it was used as a commercial event facility. It also says that the city claimed the only legal use of the property was a fire station.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78333028


So the city expected someone to open a private fire service?

Yeah right. We haven't had those in the states for like 100 years now.
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Pretty asinine, huh? Probably why the city capitulated when he countersued.

Seriously folks, there’s a short article & an informative video at OPs link.
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Are you people drunk?

Does anyone actually read anymore?


Hell, all you had to do was watch the 3 minute video.



The mental capacity of this site is screwed.
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Nobody is going to sit down band watch a 3 minute video.
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Everyone here arguing about zoning whether in defense or against the guy is a statist government d*xk sucking cuck.
Every American should be able to do whatever they want with their property. Zoning should not be a thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77172304


I disagree. Let the home based auto repair guy or the AirBNB, or the daycare move in next to your house and see how you like it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28925333


It's mostly about traffic, parking spots being taken up, and maybe noise problems from the place. You can't just turn a house into a bar and charge for alcohol / drinks. Drunk drivers leaving the place and swerving down the road...
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


Jesus Christ Dude, the city is complaining that he is using it as a residence as per the video and article. While it is zoned as a public facility.



"Kroon was ordered to "discontinue all unauthorized uses including but not limited to office and residence" because "the legally established use of the property is as a public facility (fire station.)"



I tried to point out your error and you literally doubled down on stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73641902


This seems kinda odd on the county's part. Fire stations typically have offices and residences inside them.
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i'm going to try to buy a police station next week.
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SEATTLE — Kroon purchased the property from the City of Seattle in a 2012 auction.

Kroon told KIRO 7 he “thought we had essentially bought a residential property” for $712,000.

The Seattle man then spent thousands of dollars on interior remodeling, and for more than three years, his extended family and friends used the firehouse for holidays, celebrations, charity fundraisers, graduation parties and as an office until a Land Use Notice of Violation arrived in July of 2016.

According to the City of Seattle's violation letter, a "complaint about this property" had been received. A Housing and Zoning Inspector "investigated" and found "violations of the Seattle Land Use Code."

[link to www.kiro7.com (secure)]
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How, exactly, is it hurting anyone when he uses it as a residential property? Why do they even care?

Fuck laws against victimless crimes. The only true laws are from GOD. Humans don’t have the right to tell humans what they can and can’t do!

The only reason why they get away with ridiculous laws like this, or criminalization of marijuana, is because the sheep mindlessly accept every law as just.

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Didn't someone tell him about this when he applied for permits to remodel the place?

Zoning = basic shit to know before buying real estate.

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It never states anywhere he used it for any COMMERCIAL purpose.





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