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Who is the liar? Moses or Jesus?

 
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Who is the liar? Moses or Jesus?
And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle. Exodus 33:11

No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 1 John 4:12

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. John 1:18
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No comment? Figures
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LOL. You said that you don't like to argue. And you started this thread? Why?
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Re: Who is the liar? Moses or Jesus?
Neither

Who declared the father to Moses?

Look and search to prove the scriptures true and you will see them align
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Jesus is a lie, dig into the rabbit hole........law=life
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No man hath seen the father. The manifestation Moses saw was a "pre"-incarnate Jesus. Next question.
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hesright

lolatu
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And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle. Exodus 33:11

No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 1 John 4:12

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. John 1:18
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Both are right.

With Moses God took a form to interact with him face to face, but it would be incorrect to think that form that god took is the totality of God who according to judiasm and christianity is formless, which is why idol or graven image can be made for it.

Moses also supposedly saw God as a burning bush. To think God in it's totality is a burning bush would be a grave error.
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And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle. Exodus 33:11

No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 1 John 4:12

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. John 1:18
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Both are right.

With Moses God took a form to interact with him face to face, but it would be incorrect to think that form that god took is the totality of God who according to judiasm and christianity is formless, which is why idol or graven image can be made for it.

Moses also supposedly saw God as a burning bush. To think God in it's totality is a burning bush would be a grave error.
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hesright

lolatu
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And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle. Exodus 33:11

No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 1 John 4:12

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. John 1:18
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78339065


Both are right.

With Moses God took a form to interact with him face to face, but it would be incorrect to think that form that god took is the totality of God who according to judiasm and christianity is formless, which is why idol or graven image can be made for it.

Moses also supposedly saw God as a burning bush. To think God in it's totality is a burning bush would be a grave error.
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why an idol can't be made for it
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10/14/15

I was praying to Father and telling him how much I loved him, and and I instantly saw his face flash in my eyes for a brief moment, a glimpse.


A beautiful face, and a nice clear blue eyes, and his face had a neat trimmed and classy beard, of silver and white hair, on a younger face.

when I woke up, I heard this song playing in my sleep as I was waking . I had to look up the lyrics.

By: alive and kickin
song called
Tighter tighter.

Made me smile all day long.
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Re: Who is the liar? Moses or Jesus?
Moses was not talking to the father.
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And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle. Exodus 33:11

No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 1 John 4:12

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. John 1:18
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In exodus 33, Moses was speaking with the cloudy pillar of the Lord. They spoke as friends, "face to face", which could mean Gods face appeared in the cloudy pillar to see Moses, and Moses seen the face of God......BUT, Moses seen the cloudy pillar of the Lord, NOT God in his full form. "No man has seen God at any time", well Moses seen the cloudy pillar of God and his face, but he didn't SEE God as a whole.

9 And it came to pass, as Moses entered into the tabernacle, the cloudy pillar descended, and stood at the door of the tabernacle, and the Lord talked with Moses.

10 And all the people saw the cloudy pillar stand at the tabernacle door: and all the people rose up and worshipped, every man in his tent door.

11 And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.
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No comment? Figures
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You.

You are the liar, mic.
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Re: Who is the liar? Moses or Jesus?
Moses was not talking to the father.
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Who do you worship in your life, and how do you worship?
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Re: Who is the liar? Moses or Jesus?
Well Michael and the angel of death both fought over the body of Moses. Different suns and different environments
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And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle. Exodus 33:11

No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 1 John 4:12

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. John 1:18
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Die in a literal God damned fire.
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Someone needs to learn who the Lord of the O.T. was.
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And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle. Exodus 33:11

No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 1 John 4:12

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. John 1:18
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Die in a literal God damned fire.
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Please, please don't speak that way. It has a way of backfiring. Protection to all reading in Jesus's name.
...Loving souls, starving trolls...
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And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle. Exodus 33:11

No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 1 John 4:12

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. John 1:18
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Die in a literal God damned fire.
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Is it Holy Spirit talking through you? Or other spirit?
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And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle. Exodus 33:11

No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 1 John 4:12

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. John 1:18
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Well one is known for walking around with a snake/magical staff symbol and one is known for fucking up snakes of various kinds.
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Re: Who is the liar? Moses or Jesus?
No man hath seen the father. The manifestation Moses saw was a "pre"-incarnate Jesus. Next question.
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he quoted a bad translation...


besides Moses was a man and Jesus, as God in the flesh(or Holy Spirit) can not lie...


so...

there ya have it...



bless you for trying... yep and Amen.

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No man hath seen the father. The manifestation Moses saw was a "pre"-incarnate Jesus. Next question.
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he quoted a bad translation...


besides Moses was a man and Jesus, as God in the flesh(or Holy Spirit) can not lie...


so...

there ya have it...



bless you for trying... yep and Amen.

angel3
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KJV is not a "bad translation". Nice try though. I stand by my original statement.
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Re: Who is the liar? Moses or Jesus?
No man hath seen the father. The manifestation Moses saw was a "pre"-incarnate Jesus. Next question.
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That is what thought as well, Moses was talking to Jesus. One verse says Lord the other says God.
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No man hath seen the father. The manifestation Moses saw was a "pre"-incarnate Jesus. Next question.
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That is what thought as well, Moses was talking to Jesus. One verse says Lord the other says God.
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Jesus is even going so far as to explain it.

"No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. John 1:18"

Did you notice this symbol ";"? That denotes a continuance but also a stopping point within the statement. Jesus plainly stated that no man hath seen God, ever, at any time in history, including Moses. "The only begotten Son", which is of course Jesus, has & therefore "declares it".
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It's obvious. The God Moses saw is not the same as the Father Yeshua speaks of.
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Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy
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Re: Who is the liar? Moses or Jesus?
Moses

When he had to cut a deal

With those who took over the tribe

When he went away for those 40 days

You .ca easily read into how he cut a deal

Instead of cutting them loose

His weakness in that moment screwed everyone





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