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What is the main reason so many do not believe in a Creator...and choose evolution?

 
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it all comes down to one word:

accountability
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it all comes down to one word:

accountability
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indeed

and the evotards simply deny the evidence for design in all branches of science such as biology and cosmology

simple mathematics, but even mathematics in their worldview is just another brute fact that needs no explanation further than evotardism
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"What is the main reason so many do not believe in a Creator...and choose evolution?"

OP, I will answer you to the best of my ability.

First, you're asking two different questions. There are many that believe in God and evolution. This website was made by Christians who accept the scientific consensus regarding the age of the Earth, and evolution: [link to biologos.org (secure)]

Now, the main reason people don't believe in a 'Creator' is because they simply weren't raised to do so, and/or they haven't seen sufficient evidence for one.

As for why people choose evolution... choose is a strange word to use. I don't choose to believe in germs, or gravity, I am convinced of them by evidence. People are convinced of evolution because there is a lot of evidence for it. I can't stress that enough, the evidence is overwhelming, and every test that our best minds can come up with points to evolution theory being correct.

Creationists will tell you that it's because we want to live in sin or some such personal slander, but the simple answer is evidence.
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"What is the main reason so many do not believe in a Creator...and choose evolution?"

OP, I will answer you to the best of my ability.

First, you're asking two different questions. There are many that believe in God and evolution. This website was made by Christians who accept the scientific consensus regarding the age of the Earth, and evolution: [link to biologos.org (secure)]

Now, the main reason people don't believe in a 'Creator' is because they simply weren't raised to do so, and/or they haven't seen sufficient evidence for one.

As for why people choose evolution... choose is a strange word to use. I don't choose to believe in germs, or gravity, I am convinced of them by evidence. People are convinced of evolution because there is a lot of evidence for it. I can't stress that enough, the evidence is overwhelming, and every test that our best minds can come up with points to evolution theory being correct.

Creationists will tell you that it's because we want to live in sin or some such personal slander, but the simple answer is evidence.
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Tell us what is your best evidence for evolution.

I'm all ears.
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"What is the main reason so many do not believe in a Creator...and choose evolution?"

OP, I will answer you to the best of my ability.

First, you're asking two different questions. There are many that believe in God and evolution. This website was made by Christians who accept the scientific consensus regarding the age of the Earth, and evolution: [link to biologos.org (secure)]

Now, the main reason people don't believe in a 'Creator' is because they simply weren't raised to do so, and/or they haven't seen sufficient evidence for one.

As for why people choose evolution... choose is a strange word to use. I don't choose to believe in germs, or gravity, I am convinced of them by evidence. People are convinced of evolution because there is a lot of evidence for it. I can't stress that enough, the evidence is overwhelming, and every test that our best minds can come up with points to evolution theory being correct.

Creationists will tell you that it's because we want to live in sin or some such personal slander, but the simple answer is evidence.
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Tell us what is your best evidence for evolution.

I'm all ears.
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I've spent hours listing the evidence for you and DGN, it doesn't seem to sink in. Can you tell me what evidence scientists are putting forth?
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"What is the main reason so many do not believe in a Creator...and choose evolution?"

OP, I will answer you to the best of my ability.

First, you're asking two different questions. There are many that believe in God and evolution. This website was made by Christians who accept the scientific consensus regarding the age of the Earth, and evolution: [link to biologos.org (secure)]

Now, the main reason people don't believe in a 'Creator' is because they simply weren't raised to do so, and/or they haven't seen sufficient evidence for one.

As for why people choose evolution... choose is a strange word to use. I don't choose to believe in germs, or gravity, I am convinced of them by evidence. People are convinced of evolution because there is a lot of evidence for it. I can't stress that enough, the evidence is overwhelming, and every test that our best minds can come up with points to evolution theory being correct.

Creationists will tell you that it's because we want to live in sin or some such personal slander, but the simple answer is evidence.
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I somewhat agree with you.

By ignorance(as in "one who doesn't know"), people, specially christians, tend to think that evolution is an "opposition" to god. They tend to think of it as a "counter-religion" argumentation and that somehow its main goal is to disprove god. So they base their argumentation on that. Evolution(I said that in a post earlier), is not something to be believed in. Using your example, I don't "believe" in gravity, I don't "believe" in electricity, I just understand it as a non-magical thing.

One of the things that religions people have a hard time with, is within their own realm: Religion vs. god. They tend to think of both things as a "big unseparable" mix. And this line of thought is the same regarding evolution, they mix VERY different subjects into one big "soup", usually: evolution, abiogenesis and cosmology, all in one single point. This makes things VERY confusing, because on their point of view, it is all the same thing, when nothing can be further from the truth. And again, it all comes down to ignorance, maybe even ignorance by submission. There are several badly intentioned people that manipulate other good people. So many have only "pulpit knowledge" of the subjects(evolution, cosmology and abiogenesis) and end up with a real messed up idea of what science actually is.
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Who cares? Leave people alone and let them believe what they want. Beliefs do not change reality.
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"What is the main reason so many do not believe in a Creator...and choose evolution?"

OP, I will answer you to the best of my ability.

First, you're asking two different questions. There are many that believe in God and evolution. This website was made by Christians who accept the scientific consensus regarding the age of the Earth, and evolution: [link to biologos.org (secure)]

Now, the main reason people don't believe in a 'Creator' is because they simply weren't raised to do so, and/or they haven't seen sufficient evidence for one.

As for why people choose evolution... choose is a strange word to use. I don't choose to believe in germs, or gravity, I am convinced of them by evidence. People are convinced of evolution because there is a lot of evidence for it. I can't stress that enough, the evidence is overwhelming, and every test that our best minds can come up with points to evolution theory being correct.

Creationists will tell you that it's because we want to live in sin or some such personal slander, but the simple answer is evidence.
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Tell us what is your best evidence for evolution.

I'm all ears.
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I've spent hours listing the evidence for you and DGN, it doesn't seem to sink in. Can you tell me what evidence scientists are putting forth?
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DGN(Steve) is hopeless. I'm suspicious that he is somewhat guilty on "not nice things" regarding children. He got VERY defensive and agressive at the same time when I touched the subject with him.
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Who cares? Leave people alone and let them believe what they want. Beliefs do not change reality.
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Belief itself doesn't. Unfortunately beliefs change people's behavior and this can severely change reality for all others.
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Re: What is the main reason so many do not believe in a Creator...and choose evolution?
Because of there is a god (which I'm starting to doubt) it doesn't appear to give a shit about us. Why would it?
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Re: What is the main reason so many do not believe in a Creator...and choose evolution?
it all comes down to one word:

accountability
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Try evidence.
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it all comes down to one word:

accountability
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Try evidence.
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with evo-tards their "belief" is that they're not accountable to anyone, or anything and
we're all just one big accident so anything goes and do as you wish, survival of the fittest etc.

except
how is it that even evo-tards for the most part are offended by pedos, and Ted Bundy type rapist murderers,
they'll be pissed off if someone breaks in to their homes and robs them, sticks a gun or knife in their face and mugs them,
...?

so there's some of that "evidence" that humans have the knowledge of good and evil, and that there is & will be accountability
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it all comes down to one word:

accountability
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Try evidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78224431


with evo-tards their "belief" is that they're not accountable to anyone, or anything and
we're all just one big accident so anything goes and do as you wish, survival of the fittest etc.

except
how is it that even evo-tards for the most part are offended by pedos, and Ted Bundy type rapist murderers,
they'll be pissed off if someone breaks in to their homes and robs them, sticks a gun or knife in their face and mugs them,
...?

so there's some of that "evidence" that humans have the knowledge of good and evil, and that there is & will be accountability
 Quoting: Red John


wtfdid
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Re: What is the main reason so many do not believe in a Creator...and choose evolution?
The better question is why do creationists hate on God and his creation all the time, just because they don't want to try to understand the tools God used to set life in motion.

Tsk tsk.. amateurs.
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The better question is why do creationists hate on God and his creation all the time, just because they don't want to try to understand the tools God used to set life in motion.

Tsk tsk.. amateurs.
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Did it ever crossed your mind that athesists are in majority ex-believers? At least I am. Been through a lot of different christian branches, then I've tried looking at things as they are, not as if someone wanted me to see.
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Re: What is the main reason so many do not believe in a Creator...and choose evolution?
It's called spiritual blindness and they are deceived, as most of mankind is.
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"The god of this world deceives the whole world..".
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Re: What is the main reason so many do not believe in a Creator...and choose evolution?
it all comes down to one word:

accountability
 Quoting: Red John


Try evidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78224431


with evo-tards their "belief" is that they're not accountable to anyone, or anything and
we're all just one big accident so anything goes and do as you wish, survival of the fittest etc.

except
how is it that even evo-tards for the most part are offended by pedos, and Ted Bundy type rapist murderers,
they'll be pissed off if someone breaks in to their homes and robs them, sticks a gun or knife in their face and mugs them,
...?

so there's some of that "evidence" that humans have the knowledge of good and evil, and that there is & will be accountability
 Quoting: Red John


Indeed.

Evotards seem to be very selective when it comes down to their belief.
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The better question is why do creationists hate on God and his creation all the time, just because they don't want to try to understand the tools God used to set life in motion.

Tsk tsk.. amateurs.
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Did it ever crossed your mind that athesists are in majority ex-believers? At least I am. Been through a lot of different christian branches, then I've tried looking at things as they are, not as if someone wanted me to see.
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Oh look its a failed christian.

How am I not surprised.
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"What is the main reason so many do not believe in a Creator...and choose evolution?"

OP, I will answer you to the best of my ability.

First, you're asking two different questions. There are many that believe in God and evolution. This website was made by Christians who accept the scientific consensus regarding the age of the Earth, and evolution: [link to biologos.org (secure)]

Now, the main reason people don't believe in a 'Creator' is because they simply weren't raised to do so, and/or they haven't seen sufficient evidence for one.

As for why people choose evolution... choose is a strange word to use. I don't choose to believe in germs, or gravity, I am convinced of them by evidence. People are convinced of evolution because there is a lot of evidence for it. I can't stress that enough, the evidence is overwhelming, and every test that our best minds can come up with points to evolution theory being correct.

Creationists will tell you that it's because we want to live in sin or some such personal slander, but the simple answer is evidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78292982


Tell us what is your best evidence for evolution.

I'm all ears.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77762685


I've spent hours listing the evidence for you and DGN, it doesn't seem to sink in. Can you tell me what evidence scientists are putting forth?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78292982


How about listing just one, your best.

You know from protoplasm to a human, should be easy.
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Re: What is the main reason so many do not believe in a Creator...and choose evolution?
because of cults that broadcast lies and hide child abuse
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people wonder who or what would have created the creator
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Rebellion.
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Because both the school systems and media push evolution and discredit Christianity. They empower pagan religions as well as evolution, but than again that's same same, all those ideas root from the same trash can
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The better question is why do creationists hate on God and his creation all the time, just because they don't want to try to understand the tools God used to set life in motion.

Tsk tsk.. amateurs.
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Did it ever crossed your mind that athesists are in majority ex-believers? At least I am. Been through a lot of different christian branches, then I've tried looking at things as they are, not as if someone wanted me to see.
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Oh look its a failed christian.

How am I not surprised.
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Elighten me, what is a failed christian? Don't be shy on the details. And please, at least this once, be honest and brave, don't just say "like you".
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Can it be said fairly that those who believe in evolution are "spiritual orphans"...with no Heavenly Father, and no hope for the future on this earth?
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Yes, but they're being truthful, unlike religionists, and they don't have to make things up in order to perpetuate supernatural beliefs. They also feel that they are not special and will eventually die, as do all living things, and then be dead forever. They most likely want to enjoy their one life on this earth, and most want to be kind to others and seek to just do some good in their short lifetimes.
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Can it be said fairly that those who believe in evolution are "spiritual orphans"...with no Heavenly Father, and no hope for the future on this earth?
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That depends! On which religion point of view?
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"What is the main reason so many do not believe in a Creator...and choose evolution?"

OP, I will answer you to the best of my ability.

First, you're asking two different questions. There are many that believe in God and evolution. This website was made by Christians who accept the scientific consensus regarding the age of the Earth, and evolution: [link to biologos.org (secure)]

Now, the main reason people don't believe in a 'Creator' is because they simply weren't raised to do so, and/or they haven't seen sufficient evidence for one.

As for why people choose evolution... choose is a strange word to use. I don't choose to believe in germs, or gravity, I am convinced of them by evidence. People are convinced of evolution because there is a lot of evidence for it. I can't stress that enough, the evidence is overwhelming, and every test that our best minds can come up with points to evolution theory being correct.

Creationists will tell you that it's because we want to live in sin or some such personal slander, but the simple answer is evidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78292982


Tell us what is your best evidence for evolution.

I'm all ears.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77762685


I've spent hours listing the evidence for you and DGN, it doesn't seem to sink in. Can you tell me what evidence scientists are putting forth?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78292982


How about listing just one, your best.

You know from protoplasm to a human, should be easy.
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I've given you the best evidence, multiple times. Can you repeat it back to me, then tell me why it doesn't convince you?
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It's all about authoritative teaching methods

From Jk to grade 12 and into collage BA recipients

If you go for a master's or PHD

You probably know whats what but ate willing to sell out
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"The god of this world deceives the whole world..".
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