Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315

Megadoom ahead unless this is sorted.

Not all of them.
Some have been sequenced showing they are separate infections.

The one from Hong Kong comes to mind.

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Reinfection Tracker.
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Thanks! Will look some up for when news gets boring.

Guys

These arent reinfections...these are relapses arent they?

That data-analyst florida fired started a new dashboard for school cases btw: [link to arcg.is (secure)]

I'll look into it more later but it's probably a better long term solution over a google doc.

Fed will print.
It’ll be fine..until it isn’t.

My mom and stepdad just evicted A renter today in Indiana. They used unsafe living conditions . The renters moved more people in then the septic could handle. judge told the guy to be out my the end of the month. So landlords can evict if they have a solid reason.

I guess all they really have to do is condemn places if they really want to.
Wouldn’t be hard.

The above. We needed to show it was significantly genetically different version of the virus (Just mutations, does not imply the way it works changed -- Viruses mutate all the time without changing virulence (efficiency/efficacy)) -- to prove it was actually a reinfection. Then again we are at a cross roads.

Re-emergence is hard to prove because PCR tests for presence, not infection. If it is there to a degree that a PCR test will pick it up, it's very likely you are infected or have recently been infected. That said we don't know about persistence of viral shedding (Dead beat virus RNA that does nothing but being pushed out by your system, virus dies and does nothing anymore it's bio-matter needs to go somewhere). So past infections may generate persistent positive results.

The reporting we have on re-emergence is even more questionable now that we know reinfection can occur after 2 months or so (Don't quote me on that time frame, off the top of my head from recent confirmed reinfections) because the virus is often not sequenced to determine it's genome.

I hope that makes sense, ask questions if not. But the proof of reinfections presented thus far has it made it so we have more ambiguity in the data then we had before. For the time being I feel safe rejecting any claim of reinfection without genome sequencing till we better understand the prevalence.

Since Dath and everyone are posting garden stories, I thought I would chime in:

We spent some coin on good compost, got most seeds from Baker Creek (before they ran out), and started w]everything indoors under some special plant lights on timers. We planted all heirlooms, and we are located in a suburb of Buffalo, so you never know what the weather is going to do. Err is the report:

Garlic was put in over the fall, harvested in July and did great! Scapes were removed in June, food processed and frozen in little cubes.

Peas did ok, but some critter helped itself to most of them.

23-ish different types of heirloom tomatoes. They are still producing, I have been cooking some down, and freezing (freezer I ordered in May finally got here a few weeks ago), and cutting and freezing others.

4 different types of potatoes, got blight early, but cut them down to the ground and ended up with about 30lbs, all different sizes.

Artichokes, who knew they would grow here? But they did! Each plant made one big one and had 2 baby Rt I hike shoots off the sides.

Bush beans got some weird disease and ended up mushy...fail

Fennel, made lovely fragrant fronds that I used in all sorts of things, but they never made bulbs. Now it’s going to seed.

Celery, is currently staked up, but no diseases or anything there.

Mini watermelons, we got like 2

Little French cantaloupes, we got about 3

Asian melons, very small, but got 4. They weren’t as sweet as I thought they should be.

Gagootz squash, we got maybe 4, then I think they got vine borers that killed the plants off

Sweet potatoes still in the ground

Pole beans, harvested at least 30lbs so far, have been seal a medaling them with little pats of butter and frozen. These are true heirlooms passed down from my family. One section of them had weird mis shaped beans. I don’t know what that is all about, but not using any of that for seed stock. The rest came out great.

Some weird bonus squash that we are yet to identify. We think it’s a white squash that didn’t come up last year.

3 different color beets did GREAT! I was making beet salads with fennel fronds and vinegrette mmmmm

Plumb tree didn’t make any this year (that happens sometimes)

Apple trees made apples, even after a Gypsy Moth invasion. I was out there with a blow torch frying them for a few days. Toasted caterpillar anyone? Apples look just OK ::shrugs:: will pick some and dehydrate them, possible make some apple sauce

Pear tree made a bunch of pears, but they are mis shaped as well. That screams of incomplete pollination. I raise mason bees, for pollination, I don’t know what that is all about.

I had a pretty good bumper crop of wild black raspberries this year (Black Caps). Picked a bunch of them in July, cooked them down, saved the juice to add to cocktails, kept the hulls and suck, put them in a jar with vodka to infuse. I do this every year, and that is my Summer vodka for next year. Sometime I do vinegar as well for salads. It’s delish.

Now we are planning the Fall garden and getting the garlic seed ready to go in next month. Still waiting on a tractor that I ordered last month. No delivery date yet.

And that’s my report.

This winter is going to be studying the gardening book Darth recommended and go from there.

Thanks again everyone, I so enjoy and appreciate all of you!

SpinalCracker

I’m expecting the public will never be told if the infection lies dormant in the nervous system like rabies does - unless/until such a time it could be used to institute mandatory vaccinations.

Stepson's got it

Fuck

Stepson's got it

Fuck

Spinal, you and others are giving me some great info.

Gardening is survival!

Stepson's got it

Fuck

Oopsie!

Florida says it is cutting ties with Quest Diagnostics after the company failed to report nearly 75,000 COVID-19 test results, some as far back as April. It includes 3,870 positive cases.

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Sorry to hear CG.
Hope it’s minimal exposure and speedy recovery!

Not all of them.
Some have been sequenced showing they are separate infections.

The one from Hong Kong comes to mind.

[link to academic.oup.com (secure)]

Reinfection Tracker.
[link to bnonews.com (secure)]

He's 45

Decent health

Released from hospital after the +

Doing a 14 day quarantine

Will see how it goes

Oopsie!

Florida says it is cutting ties with Quest Diagnostics after the company failed to report nearly 75,000 COVID-19 test results, some as far back as April. It includes 3,870 positive cases.

[link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)]

No, it's ok. I've got a good stock build up already. I just wanted to add to it. I had ordered canned shredded turkey and pork from Lehmans and we tried the turkey. It's REALLY good. I just wanted to get extra because we DID like it so much. I was surprised it was sold out so quickly, that's why I ordered anyway. They've always been really good about getting orders out, and they don't charge until it's shipped.

Well fuck. Looks like I need to quit slacking on those orders I need to place with the major supermarkets.

I've been managing my supplies very well, only using a few items here and there so been lax about stocking up even more like I have been since Feb. Instead I've been indulging myself and laying off the doom which has really helped my mental state.

But the last few days I just have this horrible I need to pick up the pace and start focusing on preparing for winter STAT.

Guess that feeling is justified if the masses are going to start waking up......thats really the first thread on GLP since this has all started about warning to stock up and things being taken semi seriously.

All b/c they blame it on being planned...not b/c of the supply chain issues.

Megadoom ahead unless this is sorted.

Spinal, you and others are giving me some great info.

Gardening is survival!

A big part of the problem is that we have a very hard time to simply observe the presence of viral material, let alone find out where it is (Biopsy -> PCR test is biased to those whom die, can't poke about in the living). So the entire of concept of knowing as we would normally accept pretty much goes out of the window.

It's kind of like moving to a new planet and having a thermometer with a 50C margin of error, we need a lot of readings to make sure that we know the actual temperature and the living conditions are safe. Science has come a long way, but viruses not so much. We can't cure the flu or a cold, and any vaccine will probably work in the same margins.