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I agree with you. I don't see it as a mass extinction event.
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define mass? not all not total. a majority? or just a high quantity? the answere matters.

25%-<2 billion time frame?
50% 3.5 billion worldwide. lets say SA, AFRICa, and CHINA counts for 2 billion. u are now at 25% before any other couontry is added.

my projection way back in JAN BEFORE THE WORLD LOCKED DOWN is 1 billion in 3 years.both directly and indirectly caused by the virus. this also assumed the lights would stay on.

is my # enuf to b mass extinction? at what # do u think society collapses?any clue?

if u must work all day to find food,water,and firewood for your family to survive each night, does it matter if we call it extinction,pandemic,reset,etc?
 Quoting: JAZZz50


The word "extinction" already has a definition: It is when the last of a species dies and there are no more of them.

A "mass extinction" is when this happens to multiple species at roughly the same time, which really does not apply to what is going on with this virus.

What will happen with this virus will not be an extinction, but a reduction in population of the human species. How much of a reduction is up for debate.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Reduction until extinction?
Jury is still out on whether more than one species is impacted.
Timeframe of “roughly” in terms time can be a large span - relatively speaking.
 Quoting: Guythu


I think since it can infect more than 1 species and be passed back and forth that it is a mass extinction event.

If it was ONLY affecting humans, I would say its not.

This is slow roll doom, just like Fukushima. Now we got both of them going at once.

I am still wondering what is causing the elephants dying off. There is still inconclusive evidence supposedly as of a few days ago.
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Mexico 7,371 new cases and 627 new deaths

As of August 13, 2020, there are 505,751 confirmed cases and 83,075 suspected cases of # COVID19. There have been 553,219 negatives, 55,293 confirmed deaths and 341,507 people recovered

Nationwide, 60% of general hospital beds are available and 40% occupied. In beds with fans, 66% are available and 34% occupied
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Mexico 7,371 new cases and 627 new deaths

As of August 13, 2020, there are 505,751 confirmed cases and 83,075 suspected cases of # COVID19. There have been 553,219 negatives, 55,293 confirmed deaths and 341,507 people recovered

Nationwide, 60% of general hospital beds are available and 40% occupied. In beds with fans, 66% are available and 34% occupied
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Forgot I question why the need to say beds with fans haha.
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Almost better than sex. *almost*
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Well that explains how you managed to make it past the 12kw laser grid protecting the time machine... not even the doppelganger Wordsworth made it past that one.

Oh yeah I forgot to tell you guys... this timeline is back to it's proper number of Wordsworths.

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Three things of note: when sprayed onto a test article that was wrapped in industry grade plastic and frozen in an environment water ice was allowed to form?

17 DAYS later, on thawing, the virus was not only able to reanimated in vitro, but the thawing process sped up replication as the stop/go switches were thrown and the virus went from its low and far survival mode and into its acute attack stage.

This virus knows when it is under attack and acts accordingly.

Point 2: It breeds inside water with even a small bacterial load within it. Where ever you have a legionnaires or other such risk say inside ducting and pipe work on aircon? This will be there. Vehicle INTAKES included.

It is why Chinese military are carrying out twice daily hypochlorous acid dry fogging on all vehicles travelling through infected zones.

Point3: China is a at zero war stocks. That's it, done. And Wuhan is STILL missing 4 MILLION people.
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plz plz ask your wife to check the survivability of the virus in an airtight environment such as inside plastic wrap rolled up. thx u
 Quoting: JAZZz50


22 days IF the virus has ANY, and this is important EVEN THE SMALLEST AMOUNT OF MOISTURE such as drawn from the exposed air about them.

All of her team are FORBIDDEN to open ANYTHING with pre filled air that is not 28 days old.

Forbidden. That's wraps, bubble wrap, cling film, its ALL from stocks. All of it.

Religiously.
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define mass? not all not total. a majority? or just a high quantity? the answere matters.

25%-<2 billion time frame?
50% 3.5 billion worldwide. lets say SA, AFRICa, and CHINA counts for 2 billion. u are now at 25% before any other couontry is added.

my projection way back in JAN BEFORE THE WORLD LOCKED DOWN is 1 billion in 3 years.both directly and indirectly caused by the virus. this also assumed the lights would stay on.

is my # enuf to b mass extinction? at what # do u think society collapses?any clue?

if u must work all day to find food,water,and firewood for your family to survive each night, does it matter if we call it extinction,pandemic,reset,etc?
 Quoting: JAZZz50


The word "extinction" already has a definition: It is when the last of a species dies and there are no more of them.

A "mass extinction" is when this happens to multiple species at roughly the same time, which really does not apply to what is going on with this virus.

What will happen with this virus will not be an extinction, but a reduction in population of the human species. How much of a reduction is up for debate.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Reduction until extinction?
Jury is still out on whether more than one species is impacted.
Timeframe of “roughly” in terms time can be a large span - relatively speaking.
 Quoting: Guythu


I think since it can infect more than 1 species and be passed back and forth that it is a mass extinction event.

If it was ONLY affecting humans, I would say its not.

This is slow roll doom, just like Fukushima. Now we got both of them going at once.

I am still wondering what is causing the elephants dying off. There is still inconclusive evidence supposedly as of a few days ago.
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Have there been more?
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Fine .... Raff. I failed semantics this morning. Not enough coupfee. I mean coffee.


Definitely a CEE.... and a mass extinction for some cultures. And definitely a bottleneck for most of humanity.

Unknown after that.

It’s ugly. But here we carry on.... until the internet is gone.
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If the internet goes down, we need to have a meeting time/place/date. Like, in the smokey mountains with certain coordinates. Somewhere remote, but accessible.

Imma need y'all to get on that since I've never been there!
 Quoting: Tarnished Halo


I'm thinking establishing a pre-determined amateur radio frequency might be a better idea, since travel might not be an option for a lot of people, and it might not even be safe.

You don't need a license to purchase an amateur radio, just to broadcast on it. However, there is an exception to that rule that says anyone may broadcast on any frequency in the event of an emergency. I think the collapse of civilization as we know it qualifies.

Any other hams out there want to chime in on this?
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Would have to be the 160 meter band given our wide geographic spread, which would require a bit of know how on the part of the user aside from buying some gear.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


That plus a relay system on the 2-meter band, which is much more accessible to the novice operator. You definitely would not have the distance, but if enough people are monitoring it you might be able to reach a few localized GLP members. I know there are other GLP members here in Indy, for example. If I can hit one of them using the 2-meter radio in my truck, and one of them has a 160-meter setup, then you could theoretically put together a very basic long-distance communications system.

Actually, I don't even need to hit a GLP member who has a 160-meter rig. I just have to hit *any* operator with one and ask him to relay a message on the pre-determined frequency.

So, one pre-determined frequency for 160-meter and one pre-determined frequency for 2-meter.

It most definitely would not be perfect, but it's the only system I can think of that would survive a total collapse of the global telecommunications network and national power grid.

Either that or carrier pigeons with "GLP" tattooed on their beaks.
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Three things of note: when sprayed onto a test article that was wrapped in industry grade plastic and frozen in an environment water ice was allowed to form?

17 DAYS later, on thawing, the virus was not only able to reanimated in vitro, but the thawing process sped up replication as the stop/go switches were thrown and the virus went from its low and far survival mode and into its acute attack stage.

This virus knows when it is under attack and acts accordingly.

Point 2: It breeds inside water with even a small bacterial load within it. Where ever you have a legionnaires or other such risk say inside ducting and pipe work on aircon? This will be there. Vehicle INTAKES included.

It is why Chinese military are carrying out twice daily hypochlorous acid dry fogging on all vehicles travelling through infected zones.

Point3: China is a at zero war stocks. That's it, done. And Wuhan is STILL missing 4 MILLION people.
 Quoting: Uncle Doom 33326731


plz plz ask your wife to check the survivability of the virus in an airtight environment such as inside plastic wrap rolled up. thx u
 Quoting: JAZZz50


22 days IF the virus has ANY, and this is important EVEN THE SMALLEST AMOUNT OF MOISTURE such as drawn from the exposed air about them.

All of her team are FORBIDDEN to open ANYTHING with pre filled air that is not 28 days old.

Forbidden. That's wraps, bubble wrap, cling film, its ALL from stocks. All of it.

Religiously.
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Hey UD good to have you back. I appreciate how active you've been on here today.
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Best cup of coffee I've ever had was sitting at a special forces outpost in the hot jungle of malaysia...sitting there sweating while drinking a cup of cafe tarik and smoking a cigarette.

Almost better than sex. *almost*
 Quoting: millenniumjackal


Well that explains how you managed to make it past the 12kw laser grid protecting the time machine... not even the doppelganger Wordsworth made it past that one.

Oh yeah I forgot to tell you guys... this timeline is back to it's proper number of Wordsworths.

sidelook
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Here's a picture of me there in Kuantan.

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Well, you certainly got around. Let's just say that I am not in the least bit surprised based on some things you've said and terminology you've used.
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I have a STACK of sealed bubble wrap sat in the room.

If I am asked to air freight her ANYTHING - I have seals and tape that ensures the continuity of custody for the contents.

It is ALL - All of it, 28 days or older.

This virus has a nasty nasty ability to go dormant and SIP at any moisture.

Sip. Like it knows its dying but will eke out its supplies.

And form a tougher outer membrane and bide its fucking time.
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Hey wordsworth quick jab 59k+new cases in Brazil according to worldometer o.0
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Three things of note: when sprayed onto a test article that was wrapped in industry grade plastic and frozen in an environment water ice was allowed to form?

17 DAYS later, on thawing, the virus was not only able to reanimated in vitro, but the thawing process sped up replication as the stop/go switches were thrown and the virus went from its low and far survival mode and into its acute attack stage.

This virus knows when it is under attack and acts accordingly.

Point 2: It breeds inside water with even a small bacterial load within it. Where ever you have a legionnaires or other such risk say inside ducting and pipe work on aircon? This will be there. Vehicle INTAKES included.

It is why Chinese military are carrying out twice daily hypochlorous acid dry fogging on all vehicles travelling through infected zones.

Point3: China is a at zero war stocks. That's it, done. And Wuhan is STILL missing 4 MILLION people.
 Quoting: Uncle Doom 33326731


plz plz ask your wife to check the survivability of the virus in an airtight environment such as inside plastic wrap rolled up. thx u
 Quoting: JAZZz50


22 days IF the virus has ANY, and this is important EVEN THE SMALLEST AMOUNT OF MOISTURE such as drawn from the exposed air about them.

All of her team are FORBIDDEN to open ANYTHING with pre filled air that is not 28 days old.

Forbidden. That's wraps, bubble wrap, cling film, its ALL from stocks. All of it.

Religiously.
 Quoting: Uncle Doom 33326731


Well, so much for my optimistic guess of six days.
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So from what I'm reading today is that there is no end, we're all going to eventually get it and we should prepare to live a shitty life until we die. Correct?
 Quoting: Tarnished Halo


Vaccine with booster shots may work for some, still a lot of unanswered questions that might help mitigate damage in the long term when we figure them out. But what you state seems to be the consensus of the majority of the posters. Though some of the bat shit crazy stuff may be so in more then one way.
 Quoting: Dutchy20


both are wrong. i don't think we have gave up yet. we still have hope. slim hopes but hope.many of us continue to work at prepping and avoiding the virus.i still think it can b eradicated in a small tight fit community that tends to its ppl without importing stuff.not easy but possable.

there is hope for mutations that make this less dangerous. do u want to get it and die a week before that? no. there is hope in some being immune.

if we all gota die at least let us be last.
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I have a STACK of sealed bubble wrap sat in the room.

If I am asked to air freight her ANYTHING - I have seals and tape that ensures the continuity of custody for the contents.

It is ALL - All of it, 28 days or older.

This virus has a nasty nasty ability to go dormant and SIP at any moisture.

Sip. Like it knows its dying but will eke out its supplies.

And form a tougher outer membrane and bide its fucking time.
 Quoting: Uncle Doom 33326731


Seems kind of like anthrax in that sense where it goes into a dormant spore until it is reactivated in the right temp and humidity conditions
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RIFF tag your it again
 Quoting: JAZZz50


We know that viable viral particles can survive in the air. For them to remain viable in a pocket of air is not an unreasonable assumption. It's not like they are going to use all of that air and suffocate. So it's a matter of can they remain viable in the time between when that pocket of air is sealed and when it's unsealed. Since the highest length of viability I've seen is 72 hours, my assessment is breathing the air from one of those plastic air bags used in shipping is less dangerous than handling the exterior box it came in.
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Here. Have fun. Don’t say I never got ya nuffin.....

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I would never say that. According to that handy-dandy chart, looks like 6 days maximum for 99.99% viral decay, and that is highly dependent on temperature and humidity. Only 12 hours for 50% viral decay. That's based on 74 degrees (F) and 50% humidity.

I still think inhaling the air from that one single air bag will not result in an infection.
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I don’t totally disagree.

:)

But those that uhhhh might be on a buying spree.... should maybe be wise to just let the boxes sit. I don’t 100% trust our data on viability.

And folks should really have been paying attention that we actually have to discuss decay and half life for this virus. That is one more clue to it’s life in a lab....any lab.
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Not weakening + No herd immunity = Disturbing (to say the least)
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Jazzzzz ‘s fest tube babies ain’t so unrealistic now.

And just in... little man has come running into the room say

“I learned that rabbits can squeak. Just like squirrels.”

And as fast he was here.... he has run back to his desk to get back to his schoolwork.
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That is so cute! Good for him!
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u all think i am nutz. just like the goggles. my eyes are open. when have i been wrong? that should scare u
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I have a STACK of sealed bubble wrap sat in the room.

If I am asked to air freight her ANYTHING - I have seals and tape that ensures the continuity of custody for the contents.

It is ALL - All of it, 28 days or older.

This virus has a nasty nasty ability to go dormant and SIP at any moisture.

Sip. Like it knows its dying but will eke out its supplies.

And form a tougher outer membrane and bide its fucking time.
 Quoting: Uncle Doom 33326731


Seems kind of like anthrax in that sense where it goes into a dormant spore until it is reactivated in the right temp and humidity conditions
 Quoting: millenniumjackal


Also, think along the lines of neurons and electrical signals.

It has a unique little signature all of it's own.
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I know a secret place there not many people know about. Go there every October. We might want to wait until next years October lol
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Maybe July 4, 2021
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Don’t beat me....

Too soon.
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then when
 Quoting: Tarnished Halo


Well according to UD never.....

According to R1.... NHS is thinking around 2025....

And I don’t honestly have a good answer .... until January. But I assume we will be sitting here with tears streaming down our faces.
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Here's a picture of me there in Kuantan.
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wtfpoint
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Show of hands who is getting the flu shot this year
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nonono
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Either that or carrier pigeons with "GLP" tattooed on their beaks.
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Here's a picture of me there in Kuantan.
 Quoting: millenniumjackal


wtfpoint
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


That's a gif of Wordsie in Hiroshima, 1945.
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Was this an experiment to create a unified hive mind across vast distances? An AI mind of neuronal tissue that could filter through and make networks of it's own? Inside a host, able to leap distance and species?

A mind like an under surface fungi net? But through the globe?


It's starting to very, very much look that way.


That's why its attacking gut neurons and the CNS.

It's trying to rewire the host.
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Best cup of coffee I've ever had was sitting at a special forces outpost in the hot jungle of malaysia...sitting there sweating while drinking a cup of cafe tarik and smoking a cigarette.

Almost better than sex. *almost*
 Quoting: millenniumjackal


Well that explains how you managed to make it past the 12kw laser grid protecting the time machine... not even the doppelganger Wordsworth made it past that one.

Oh yeah I forgot to tell you guys... this timeline is back to it's proper number of Wordsworths.

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Here's a picture of me there in Kuantan.

This post will self destruct in 1 hour.

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Y’all wingers look alike.
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My husband got a nasty cold and tested positive . After 10 days still positive. It’s ruined our lives temporarily . He’s a realtor and lost listings , can’t got to closing . His fantasy football league he loves called and Uninvited him. Had to cancel our kids sweet 16 party. Kids aren’t allowed at school . We have been sharing a bed with him and don’t have it .
Hope it’s all worth it
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Well folks, we have crossed a grim threshold tonight. More than 170,000 Americans have died from Coronavirus.

It would take every seat in both Michigan stadium and Sate Farm stadium in Arizona to fit every person in the US killed by the virus in just the last 5 months.

MichiganxState fam

Let that sink in.

By my calculations, that number will be doubled by October.
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