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Belgium's COVID-19 health care collapse: 'It will happen in 10 days'

We will work until we run out of nurses.

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That is the weakest link in the chain. 1918 flu nurses where kidnapped to care for debilitated family members. Drs were not needed, the problem was the flu. It's the physical skilled labor that is in short supply. Hospitals took their money and reinvested in computers and specialized practices and equipment. No return for the worker bees who are regularly replaced due to increasing patient load, less pay etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781512


Disagree. If they run out of nurses they will open the flood gates to nurses all over the world where they are chomping at the bit to have the opportunity to feed their families back home.
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You can take anybody
And put them in a nurses uniform then send them into the hospital. Give them a BP cuff and stethoscope. Do they know what to do with it? No.
The best these poor souls can do is empty urinals and fill water pitchers. To do these chores becomes complicated because of the need to maintain strict isolation, a complicated process. Step outside of technique and the nurse, co-workers, staff and personal family are at risk. At least nuclear contamination can be picked up by Geiger counters. The virus not so much.

We are out of training time. The hospitals are filling up. Yeah, you go get wannabes for the fallen staff and see how far that gets you and your community.

Time to pay the Piper.
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I think the suggestion is that there are plenty of experienced nurses across the world waiting for the chance to come to Europe and replace fallen nurses, rather than the idea lots of untrained people wanting to come and put on a nurses outfit and con their way into the system.
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U.K. 20081 positive out of 200800 - getting to 10% !

1540 to hospital

Not a flattening....

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Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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That is the weakest link in the chain. 1918 flu nurses where kidnapped to care for debilitated family members. Drs were not needed, the problem was the flu. It's the physical skilled labor that is in short supply. Hospitals took their money and reinvested in computers and specialized practices and equipment. No return for the worker bees who are regularly replaced due to increasing patient load, less pay etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781512


Disagree. If they run out of nurses they will open the flood gates to nurses all over the world where they are chomping at the bit to have the opportunity to feed their families back home.
 Quoting: sos


You can take anybody
And put them in a nurses uniform then send them into the hospital. Give them a BP cuff and stethoscope. Do they know what to do with it? No.
The best these poor souls can do is empty urinals and fill water pitchers. To do these chores becomes complicated because of the need to maintain strict isolation, a complicated process. Step outside of technique and the nurse, co-workers, staff and personal family are at risk. At least nuclear contamination can be picked up by Geiger counters. The virus not so much.

We are out of training time. The hospitals are filling up. Yeah, you go get wannabes for the fallen staff and see how far that gets you and your community.

Time to pay the Piper.
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I think the suggestion is that there are plenty of experienced nurses across the world waiting for the chance to come to Europe and replace fallen nurses, rather than the idea lots of untrained people wanting to come and put on a nurses outfit and con their way into the system.
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My years of training mean nothing!!!!

Covid times
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Muslims can go piss off if they dont like a drawing.
 Quoting: General Thade


Agreed. I fucking have major issues with Catholic idolatry, but

I would NEVER harm the idiots doing it.

The moment you need to stand down.... you let a tyrant in.
 Quoting: CleverCreator



Im catholic

We dont worship statues

Get off your high horse

We are the original church of jesus christ. Everything after is an imitation
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Religion is opium of the people.
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"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him" Voltaire
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Can I have fries with that?
 Quoting: Leaver


And cheese curds.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I'm craving pizza. Can I have a nothingpizza instead?

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Vego



Why not have both? Hey, everybody! Anything important going on today? chuckle
 Quoting: Serenity Now


Food....lots of food.

Provolone cheese sauce, mashed potatoes, peas, onions, and ground beef.

Noms......
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Religion is opium of the people.
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That, and fentanyl.

At least here in America these days.
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Sounds delicious, CC!

Vego and dyin: Wordsworth is on vacation so I think that means you can day drink. Lol.
First tell the truth, then give your opinion....
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There's the zones concept that CC has been worried about...
 Quoting: Georgia Geoprepper


Biological Casualty handbook. Usmriid 2005. Bluebook

[link to dhhr.wv.gov]

2014 edition

[link to www.usamriid.army.mil (secure)]

OSHA pandemic response for employers 2009

[link to www.osha.gov (secure)]

While I can’t find the studies that I reviewed and wrote reports on, from the 1990s.... I clearly remember the congressional hearings on the pandemic topic. Which is probably why I am so fucking cranky at the poor response.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


No mention of "pandemic" in the congressional records till the 2000's it seems, try looking for epidemic. Would help if I knew more details to target it better.
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Is this what you are looking for?... [link to www.congress.gov (secure)]
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Covid vaccinations expected to start at the beginning of December for healthcare workers and over 85s:

Light at the end of the tunnel


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It's only light at the end of the tunnel if the vaccines actually work and start bringing deaths down, and most importantly, don't kill people.
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Sounds delicious, CC!

Vego and dyin: Wordsworth is on vacation so I think that means you can day drink. Lol.
 Quoting: Serenity Now


I swear if Wordsie times up anymore damned creature issues......

To the moon.
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newsflash

you have been listening to "Blasme it on RUSSIA" by Hillary Clinton. we have your election news coverage.

plz remmeber due to the 3rd candidate ,we will not have results tonight. we expect the true virus totals to b completed in 3 weeks.

things heard at the exot polls- i didn't want a president to groped my daughter.

social distancing is rasict,blacks don't know how far to stand and are confused.



"are u black?hahaha"

"we goin shopping later......"

"cough cough. wonder if we all will have to quarantine after this?"
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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There's the zones concept that CC has been worried about...
 Quoting: Georgia Geoprepper


Biological Casualty handbook. Usmriid 2005. Bluebook

[link to dhhr.wv.gov]

2014 edition

[link to www.usamriid.army.mil (secure)]

OSHA pandemic response for employers 2009

[link to www.osha.gov (secure)]

While I can’t find the studies that I reviewed and wrote reports on, from the 1990s.... I clearly remember the congressional hearings on the pandemic topic. Which is probably why I am so fucking cranky at the poor response.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


No mention of "pandemic" in the congressional records till the 2000's it seems, try looking for epidemic. Would help if I knew more details to target it better.
 Quoting: Dutchy20

Is this what you are looking for?... [link to www.congress.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79572127


No. It was in the 1990s. Had more to do with containing a contagious disease.
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(November 3, 2020) Ultrapotent COVID-19 Vaccine Designed via Computer: Innovative Nanoparticle Vaccine Spurs Extremely High Levels of Protective Antibodies
Compared to vaccination with the soluble SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein, on which many leading COVID-19 vaccine candidates are based,
the new nanoparticle vaccine produced 10 times more neutralizing antibodies in mice, even at a sixfold lower dose.
The data also show a strong B-cell response after immunization, which can be critical for immune memory and a durable vaccine effect.

The vaccine candidate was developed using structure-based vaccine design techniques invented at UW Medicine.
It is a self-assembling protein nanoparticle that displays 60 copies of the SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein’s receptor-binding domain
in a highly immunogenic array. The molecular structure of the vaccine roughly mimics that of a virus,
which may account for its enhanced ability to provoke an immune response.

The lead vaccine candidate from this report is being licensed non-exclusively and royalty-free during the pandemic by the University of Washington.
One licensee, Icosavax, a Seattle biotechnology company co-founded in 2019 by Neil King,
is currently advancing studies to support regulatory filings and has initiated the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s
Good Manufacturing Practice. To accelerate progress by Icosavax to the clinic, Amgen has agreed to manufacture
a key intermediate for these initial clinical studies. Another licensee, SK bioscience of South Korea,
is advancing its own studies to support clinical and further development.

Reference: “Elicitation of potent neutralizing antibody responses by designed protein nanoparticle vaccines for SARS-CoV-2
Alexandra C. Walls, Brooke Fiala, Alexandra Schäfer, Samuel Wrenn, Minh N. Pham, Michael Murphy,
Longping V. Tse, Laila Shehata, Megan A. O’Connor, Chengbo Chen, Mary Jane Navarro, Marcos C. Miranda,
Deleah Pettie, Rashmi Ravichandran, John C. Kraft, Cassandra Ogohara, Anne Palser, Sara Chalk, E-Chiang Lee,
Kathryn Guerriero, Elizabeth Kepl, Cameron M. Chow, Claire Sydeman, Edgar A. Hodge, Brieann Brown, Jim T. Fuller,
Kenneth H. Dinnon, III, Lisa E. Gralinski, Sarah R. Leist, Kendra L. Gully, Thomas B. Lewis, Miklos Guttman, Helen Y. Chu, Kelly K. Lee, Deborah H. Fuller, Ralph S. Baric,
Paul Kellam, Lauren Carter, Marion Pepper, Timothy P. Sheahan,
David Veesler and Neil P. King, Accepted 26 October 2020, Cell.
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Sounds delicious, CC!

Vego and dyin: Wordsworth is on vacation so I think that means you can day drink. Lol.
 Quoting: Serenity Now


I got a box of Chardonnay today (bottle was not going to do it) but I have Titos on deck ready.

Oh crap, I still have 3 more hours of work....ah well

vodka5

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The bad news is nothing lasts forever. The good news is nothing lasts forever.
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That is the weakest link in the chain. 1918 flu nurses where kidnapped to care for debilitated family members. Drs were not needed, the problem was the flu. It's the physical skilled labor that is in short supply. Hospitals took their money and reinvested in computers and specialized practices and equipment. No return for the worker bees who are regularly replaced due to increasing patient load, less pay etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781512


Disagree. If they run out of nurses they will open the flood gates to nurses all over the world where they are chomping at the bit to have the opportunity to feed their families back home.
 Quoting: sos


You can take anybody
And put them in a nurses uniform then send them into the hospital. Give them a BP cuff and stethoscope. Do they know what to do with it? No.
The best these poor souls can do is empty urinals and fill water pitchers. To do these chores becomes complicated because of the need to maintain strict isolation, a complicated process. Step outside of technique and the nurse, co-workers, staff and personal family are at risk. At least nuclear contamination can be picked up by Geiger counters. The virus not so much.

We are out of training time. The hospitals are filling up. Yeah, you go get wannabes for the fallen staff and see how far that gets you and your community.

Time to pay the Piper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781512


I think the suggestion is that there are plenty of experienced nurses across the world waiting for the chance to come to Europe and replace fallen nurses, rather than the idea lots of untrained people wanting to come and put on a nurses outfit and con their way into the system.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


LOL, I for one can tell you that an experience nurse is not looking to jump back into this fight especially for Limeys. This is more of the 'nurse is disposable' mentality arguments. Son, we made it this far in the trenches and lived to tell about it. Remember those wonderful ER staff who stayed to fight the good fight in Wuhan? Dead. Remember during the first wave here in us staff were being rewarded with pizza being sent to their hospitals'? Some dead, down and out with exposed family members.

You all really need to understand that this is the trenches that the Covid fight will be faught on. If this line of isolation/decontamination is not held, society will break. People aren't thinking of going to Europe to save you. They are trying to figure out how to keep their town/village from being infected.

I will give you one bit of help. Look at how the old TB wards were managed.

Good luck, we're all going to need it.
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Biological Casualty handbook. Usmriid 2005. Bluebook

[link to dhhr.wv.gov]

2014 edition

[link to www.usamriid.army.mil (secure)]

OSHA pandemic response for employers 2009

[link to www.osha.gov (secure)]

While I can’t find the studies that I reviewed and wrote reports on, from the 1990s.... I clearly remember the congressional hearings on the pandemic topic. Which is probably why I am so fucking cranky at the poor response.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


No mention of "pandemic" in the congressional records till the 2000's it seems, try looking for epidemic. Would help if I knew more details to target it better.
 Quoting: Dutchy20

Is this what you are looking for?... [link to www.congress.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79572127


No. It was in the 1990s. Had more to do with containing a contagious disease.
 Quoting: CleverCreator

How about this one?...... [link to www.congress.gov (secure)]
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Religion is opium of the people.
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That, and fentanyl.

At least here in America these days.
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Dude whenever a few junkies drop because they got F instead of H, the veteran junkies swarm that area because fentanyl allows them to catch that dragon again.
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No mention of "pandemic" in the congressional records till the 2000's it seems, try looking for epidemic. Would help if I knew more details to target it better.
 Quoting: Dutchy20

Is this what you are looking for?... [link to www.congress.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79572127


No. It was in the 1990s. Had more to do with containing a contagious disease.
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How about this one?...... [link to www.congress.gov (secure)]
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No. It was virus specific. No resolutions. It was a hearing.

Closer to this discussion

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Im watching and waiting for the fireworks today. I hope yall are having as decent a day as possible. Remember a few things: the Covid Zombies cant help it any longer and that person that voted the way you opposite you us NOT your enemy. You have more in common than you think. Be the one to offer the olive branch. Be patient because you suck just as much in their mind and they do in yours.

Im off to work!
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France - 854 deaths...oh boy.
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Agreed. I fucking have major issues with Catholic idolatry, but

I would NEVER harm the idiots doing it.

The moment you need to stand down.... you let a tyrant in.
 Quoting: CleverCreator



Im catholic

We dont worship statues

Get off your high horse

We are the original church of jesus christ. Everything after is an imitation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71899952


Religion is opium of the people.
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"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him" Voltaire
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I have no problem with God, it's his fan club that scares me.
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(November 3, 2020) Ultrapotent COVID-19 Vaccine Designed via Computer: Innovative Nanoparticle Vaccine Spurs Extremely High Levels of Protective Antibodies
Compared to vaccination with the soluble SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein, on which many leading COVID-19 vaccine candidates are based,
the new nanoparticle vaccine produced 10 times more neutralizing antibodies in mice, even at a sixfold lower dose.
The data also show a strong B-cell response after immunization, which can be critical for immune memory and a durable vaccine effect.

The vaccine candidate was developed using structure-based vaccine design techniques invented at UW Medicine.
It is a self-assembling protein nanoparticle that displays 60 copies of the SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein’s receptor-binding domain
in a highly immunogenic array. The molecular structure of the vaccine roughly mimics that of a virus,
which may account for its enhanced ability to provoke an immune response.

The lead vaccine candidate from this report is being licensed non-exclusively and royalty-free during the pandemic by the University of Washington.
One licensee, Icosavax, a Seattle biotechnology company co-founded in 2019 by Neil King,
is currently advancing studies to support regulatory filings and has initiated the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s
Good Manufacturing Practice. To accelerate progress by Icosavax to the clinic, Amgen has agreed to manufacture
a key intermediate for these initial clinical studies. Another licensee, SK bioscience of South Korea,
is advancing its own studies to support clinical and further development.

Reference: “Elicitation of potent neutralizing antibody responses by designed protein nanoparticle vaccines for SARS-CoV-2
Alexandra C. Walls, Brooke Fiala, Alexandra Schäfer, Samuel Wrenn, Minh N. Pham, Michael Murphy,
Longping V. Tse, Laila Shehata, Megan A. O’Connor, Chengbo Chen, Mary Jane Navarro, Marcos C. Miranda,
Deleah Pettie, Rashmi Ravichandran, John C. Kraft, Cassandra Ogohara, Anne Palser, Sara Chalk, E-Chiang Lee,
Kathryn Guerriero, Elizabeth Kepl, Cameron M. Chow, Claire Sydeman, Edgar A. Hodge, Brieann Brown, Jim T. Fuller,
Kenneth H. Dinnon, III, Lisa E. Gralinski, Sarah R. Leist, Kendra L. Gully, Thomas B. Lewis, Miklos Guttman, Helen Y. Chu, Kelly K. Lee, Deborah H. Fuller, Ralph S. Baric,
Paul Kellam, Lauren Carter, Marion Pepper, Timothy P. Sheahan,
David Veesler and Neil P. King, Accepted 26 October 2020, Cell.
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A 35-year-old woman had sudden death from #COVID19. She had focal virus heart cell infection.
@MayoClinic
, led by Jay Schneider, w/iPSCs, showed virus spike protein-mediated membrane fusion and damage of heart muscle cells along w/ cell-to-cell spread


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Good time to point out keeping your cell membranes flexible is important to health and especially recovery.

Take high quality vitamin A and D - oil form is better than pills. Eat high quality omega 3 fatty acid foods such as wild caught cold water fish like mackerel, salmon, and herring. Olive oil and a few other oils are ok on occasion. Skip any foods with hydrogenated oils and other junk foods. These are not good times for taking comfort in garbage foods. Find less harmful comforts if you need that.

High quality easily digestible and absorbable protein is also very important for health - especially if recovering. Every cell needs it, it’s not just for regaining muscle mass and strength.
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That is the weakest link in the chain. 1918 flu nurses where kidnapped to care for debilitated family members. Drs were not needed, the problem was the flu. It's the physical skilled labor that is in short supply. Hospitals took their money and reinvested in computers and specialized practices and equipment. No return for the worker bees who are regularly replaced due to increasing patient load, less pay etc.
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Disagree. If they run out of nurses they will open the flood gates to nurses all over the world where they are chomping at the bit to have the opportunity to feed their families back home.
 Quoting: sos


You can take anybody
And put them in a nurses uniform then send them into the hospital. Give them a BP cuff and stethoscope. Do they know what to do with it? No.
The best these poor souls can do is empty urinals and fill water pitchers. To do these chores becomes complicated because of the need to maintain strict isolation, a complicated process. Step outside of technique and the nurse, co-workers, staff and personal family are at risk. At least nuclear contamination can be picked up by Geiger counters. The virus not so much.

We are out of training time. The hospitals are filling up. Yeah, you go get wannabes for the fallen staff and see how far that gets you and your community.

Time to pay the Piper.
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I think the suggestion is that there are plenty of experienced nurses across the world waiting for the chance to come to Europe and replace fallen nurses, rather than the idea lots of untrained people wanting to come and put on a nurses outfit and con their way into the system.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


Thank you!

Yes that is what I mean. Wouldn’t take much red tape to cut to have it happen.
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Disagree. If they run out of nurses they will open the flood gates to nurses all over the world where they are chomping at the bit to have the opportunity to feed their families back home.
 Quoting: sos


You can take anybody
And put them in a nurses uniform then send them into the hospital. Give them a BP cuff and stethoscope. Do they know what to do with it? No.
The best these poor souls can do is empty urinals and fill water pitchers. To do these chores becomes complicated because of the need to maintain strict isolation, a complicated process. Step outside of technique and the nurse, co-workers, staff and personal family are at risk. At least nuclear contamination can be picked up by Geiger counters. The virus not so much.

We are out of training time. The hospitals are filling up. Yeah, you go get wannabes for the fallen staff and see how far that gets you and your community.

Time to pay the Piper.
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I think the suggestion is that there are plenty of experienced nurses across the world waiting for the chance to come to Europe and replace fallen nurses, rather than the idea lots of untrained people wanting to come and put on a nurses outfit and con their way into the system.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


My years of training mean nothing!!!!

Covid times
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Well no one’s saying that but you ...





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