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Keep an eye to see who dumps stock

Stock markets surge toward record highs on Moderna vaccine success news

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Oooooo. Iowa.... getting a talking to.....

“Gov. Kim Reynolds said Monday she will announce news steps to fight coronavirus in a statewide address at 6 p.m. as the virus continues to spread in Iowa.”

6pm.

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No I won't take vaccine .Are you calling me bio bomb?! It won't be a problem when rest of sheeple will take vaccine and I won't .Update on teacher who is friend of my mother.She recovered and feeling fine
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Yes all unvaccinateds are considered bio bombs, which means you must take the vax. Everyone's going to have to play their part in reducing transmission if you like it or not.

Some U.S. states already announced mandatory vaccination, Virginia, New Mexico.

If you're lucky then your country might not demand mandatory vax but coercive vax instead like Australia. That means anyone who doesn't take the covid vax will lose all their welfare payments, education places will have the right to deny you entry, employers have the right to sack you or deny you a job, etc.
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The New York State Bar Association on Saturday passed a resolution urging the state to consider making it mandatory for all New Yorkers to undergo COVID-19 vaccination when a vaccine becomes available, even if people object to it for “religious, philosophical or personal reasons.”
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let's look at the idea of a vaccine.

the CDc has shown to b incompetant time and again over the last year. they have admitted to lying to us as well. those 2 points alone should make u question the intention of the CDC and how well u should trust them with your life or that of your family.

take the flue vaccine- the wording has changed on that. they do not say " this shot prevents the flue." they now say" the flu shot will make the flu less severe if u get it." why is that? cause they know the flu shot does not work. they then say " well we guessed wrong on the version of flu. u need to get a 2nd shot."

now they have been trying to tackle the flu for how long? and how many months not years have they chased the covid virus? so the "vaccine will make the symptons less severe" , how u goina even prove that 1 way or another? and that is only pertaining to 1 version not the many many mutations.

and by their own admission,u may still b spreading the virus even if u got the vaccine shot. why else do they tell u to wear the mask after getting the shot? oh and all that fails to consider virus load. so the more exposure might have different results.

now who wants to allow an intern person working at CVS to give them this shot? who wants to bet that person warmed the virus up from the sub freezaing temps before injecting that into your arm? who wants to bet they didn't misjudge the time by answering the cell phone call from their kid or arguement with their spouse?
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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


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CVS is going outa business,CVS is goin outa business

they injected JR
as his arm fell off
their stocks fell thru the floor.

shall we sing all the way to the lawyers office?
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Oooooo. Iowa.... getting a talking to.....

“Gov. Kim Reynolds said Monday she will announce news steps to fight coronavirus in a statewide address at 6 p.m. as the virus continues to spread in Iowa.”

6pm.

Might have to do a snark by snark review.

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Bitcoin pumping too.

I'm making bank big time.

About the only positive at this point.

Feeling quite grumpy.

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Blood type studies with caveats:

[link to www.medpagetoday.com (secure)]

This is from last month, but I thought about this today. My mom who is in her 90s contracted Corona and was VERY ill, almost died. But she didn't--and she happens to be type O.

She also has several comorbidities like diabetes, angina, and a previous heart attack. So I'm amazed she survived this thing.
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Blood type studies with caveats:

[link to www.medpagetoday.com (secure)]

This is from last month, but I thought about this today. My mom who is in her 90s contracted Corona and was VERY ill, almost died. But she didn't--and she happens to be type O.

She also has several comorbidities like diabetes, angina, and a previous heart attack. So I'm amazed she survived this thing.
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We are getting better at treating it. We still have a ways to go, but we are getting better. People need to stay home for a little while longer, because it will get very bad if hospitals get over run.
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Blood type studies with caveats:

[link to www.medpagetoday.com (secure)]

This is from last month, but I thought about this today. My mom who is in her 90s contracted Corona and was VERY ill, almost died. But she didn't--and she happens to be type O.

She also has several comorbidities like diabetes, angina, and a previous heart attack. So I'm amazed she survived this thing.
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We are getting better at treating it. We still have a ways to go, but we are getting better. People need to stay home for a little while longer, because it will get very bad if hospitals get over run.
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Thing is, she had absolutely no treatment. Just sips of water and laying there sleeping (looking like death!). It was awful.

But my point is, possibly her blood type saved her?
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I am not a doctor. I am not an epidemiologist. I am not a scientist of any kind.

However, I do understand the scientific method and how to extrapolate data. Based on the history of vaccine development, there is no one that can convince me that a viable vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 is ready to go less than a year after the virus was discovered.

FACT: The fastest vaccine ever developed in history was for mumps. It took four years.

FACT: Research for an influenza vaccine began 90 years ago, and what they have developed is only 33% accurate in any given flu season.

FACT: SARS-CoV-2 is a chimeric virus consisting of proteins from both SARS and HIV, making it a much more complex pathogen than either mumps or influenza.

FACT: We do not have a vaccine for SARS after 17 years of research.

FACT: We do not have a vaccine for HIV after 37 years of research.


Now, based on all of those facts, there is no way anyone has a viable, safe, and effective vaccine right now. Not unless samples of SARS-CoV-2 were provided to all these laboratories years in advance of the pandemic. And if that's the case, we're tunneling down a completely different rabbit hole that suggests governments conspiring with big pharma in the name of profits.

Do not hinge your hopes on either herd immunity or vaccines for at least another year or two, probably closer to four. And don't let them inject you with anything until you are 100% sure it's safe.

Stay home. Wear PPE when not home.
It really is that simple.
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2004 study, but it gives some possible answers

[link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Published: 01 April 2004
A DNA vaccine induces SARS coronavirus neutralization and protective immunity in mice

Technically, this pandemic could have been stopped earlier if this vaccine was permitted to go into production.
But instead we whine about stupid politics and celebrate football wife beaters.
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I am not a doctor. I am not an epidemiologist. I am not a scientist of any kind.

However, I do understand the scientific method and how to extrapolate data. Based on the history of vaccine development, there is no one that can convince me that a viable vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 is ready to go less than a year after the virus was discovered.

FACT: The fastest vaccine ever developed in history was for mumps. It took four years.

FACT: Research for an influenza vaccine began 90 years ago, and what they have developed is only 33% accurate in any given flu season.

FACT: SARS-CoV-2 is a chimeric virus consisting of proteins from both SARS and HIV, making it a much more complex pathogen than either mumps or influenza.

FACT: We do not have a vaccine for SARS after 17 years of research.

FACT: We do not have a vaccine for HIV after 37 years of research.


Now, based on all of those facts, there is no way anyone has a viable, safe, and effective vaccine right now. Not unless samples of SARS-CoV-2 were provided to all these laboratories years in advance of the pandemic. And if that's the case, we're tunneling down a completely different rabbit hole that suggests governments conspiring with big pharma in the name of profits.

Do not hinge your hopes on either herd immunity or vaccines for at least another year or two, probably closer to four. And don't let them inject you with anything until you are 100% sure it's safe.

Stay home. Wear PPE when not home.
It really is that simple.
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It started in 2004

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...


TV's and stereos falling on my head
TV's and stereos falling on my head
i keep tryiong to burn buildings but things keep tumbling on me
TV's and steros falling on my head
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At least it ain't raining 'cats and dogs'

off those balconies

Like it did in China

YET......

 Quoting: Hnry Bwmn


Doesn't rain cats and dogs in China, they eat cats and dogs.....
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I do not think you, or MANY here

Were around to see photos of

Dogs, cats, hamsters, etc

That had been thrown off balconies

Once the Chinese realized

Their pets were also sick
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31 Jan 2020.. [link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)]
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This disturbing article discusses a link between dog ownership and contracting Covid.

[link to scitechdaily.com (secure)]

"The study, published in the journal Environmental Research, has revealed that living with a dog and buying basic products in the supermarket with home delivery were two of the socio-demographic variables (of those analyzed) that most increased the risk of contracting COVID-19 during the period under study—by 78% in the case of living with a dog, and by 94% in that of supermarket home delivery."

Kind of makes sense as dogs roll around with each other in dog parks and are hugged by owners so it's a way to transmit.

But the part about supermarket delivery? What's up with that??
 Quoting: LaGata


They also stated this:

2. At the same time, we should not rule out the possibility that the virus may be transmitted via fecal matter.”

Hasn't that been known for months now???? They have been finding the virus in sewage since Feb. Has no one done studies on the viability in fecal matter yet???
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I've been doing that study for 10 months now, to date no COVID cases at any of the 5 sewage treatment plants i work for.
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I am not a doctor. I am not an epidemiologist. I am not a scientist of any kind.

However, I do understand the scientific method and how to extrapolate data. Based on the history of vaccine development, there is no one that can convince me that a viable vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 is ready to go less than a year after the virus was discovered.

FACT: The fastest vaccine ever developed in history was for mumps. It took four years.

FACT: Research for an influenza vaccine began 90 years ago, and what they have developed is only 33% accurate in any given flu season.

FACT: SARS-CoV-2 is a chimeric virus consisting of proteins from both SARS and HIV, making it a much more complex pathogen than either mumps or influenza.

FACT: We do not have a vaccine for SARS after 17 years of research.

FACT: We do not have a vaccine for HIV after 37 years of research.


Now, based on all of those facts, there is no way anyone has a viable, safe, and effective vaccine right now. Not unless samples of SARS-CoV-2 were provided to all these laboratories years in advance of the pandemic. And if that's the case, we're tunneling down a completely different rabbit hole that suggests governments conspiring with big pharma in the name of profits.

Do not hinge your hopes on either herd immunity or vaccines for at least another year or two, probably closer to four. And don't let them inject you with anything until you are 100% sure it's safe.

Stay home. Wear PPE when not home.
It really is that simple.
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applause2 Well said.
The bad news is nothing lasts forever. The good news is nothing lasts forever.
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This disturbing article discusses a link between dog ownership and contracting Covid.

[link to scitechdaily.com (secure)]

"The study, published in the journal Environmental Research, has revealed that living with a dog and buying basic products in the supermarket with home delivery were two of the socio-demographic variables (of those analyzed) that most increased the risk of contracting COVID-19 during the period under study—by 78% in the case of living with a dog, and by 94% in that of supermarket home delivery."

Kind of makes sense as dogs roll around with each other in dog parks and are hugged by owners so it's a way to transmit.

But the part about supermarket delivery? What's up with that??
 Quoting: LaGata


They also stated this:

2. At the same time, we should not rule out the possibility that the virus may be transmitted via fecal matter.”

Hasn't that been known for months now???? They have been finding the virus in sewage since Feb. Has no one done studies on the viability in fecal matter yet???
 Quoting: dyin


I've been doing that study for 10 months now, to date no COVID cases at any of the 5 sewage treatment plants i work for.
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Do you eat the poo poo? (I'm joking)

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The Moderna vaccine only requires -20 degrees. Which means most existing facilities can accept it right now.
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Stock market boosted by positive vaccine news

Airline and cinema stocks up.

British Airways owner IAG rising 10% and Cineworld up 13.5%.
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Update about the person that tested positive that my friend had contact with.

Tested postive last Tuesday, already has pneumonia. Guess now it was a false postive? Not sure if its bilateral, trying to find out.

But fine to pneumonia within less than week. If its not covid, is something else going around causing pneumonia?

I am reminded of the plague outbreaks that were happening a few months ago. Wonder if there is any more news about that....
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It has to do with this.....folks don’t realize they are that sick.

Pain relief caused by SARS-CoV-2 infection may help explain COVID-19 spread


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Hmm... so if the swab hurts, you're negative?

hmm
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I am not a doctor. I am not an epidemiologist. I am not a scientist of any kind.

However, I do understand the scientific method and how to extrapolate data. Based on the history of vaccine development, there is no one that can convince me that a viable vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 is ready to go less than a year after the virus was discovered.

FACT: The fastest vaccine ever developed in history was for mumps. It took four years.

FACT: Research for an influenza vaccine began 90 years ago, and what they have developed is only 33% accurate in any given flu season.

FACT: SARS-CoV-2 is a chimeric virus consisting of proteins from both SARS and HIV, making it a much more complex pathogen than either mumps or influenza.

FACT: We do not have a vaccine for SARS after 17 years of research.

FACT: We do not have a vaccine for HIV after 37 years of research.


Now, based on all of those facts, there is no way anyone has a viable, safe, and effective vaccine right now. Not unless samples of SARS-CoV-2 were provided to all these laboratories years in advance of the pandemic. And if that's the case, we're tunneling down a completely different rabbit hole that suggests governments conspiring with big pharma in the name of profits.

Do not hinge your hopes on either herd immunity or vaccines for at least another year or two, probably closer to four. And don't let them inject you with anything until you are 100% sure it's safe.

Stay home. Wear PPE when not home.
It really is that simple.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff

COVID-19 Event Risk Assessment Planning Tool.. [link to covid19risk.biosci.gatech.edu (secure)]
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One year since the virus officially emerged.
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Any news update on excess death rate from all causes
Nothing will change, unless something changes
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The media is harping on cases. What is happening with deaths?
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Oooooo. Iowa.... getting a talking to.....

“Gov. Kim Reynolds said Monday she will announce news steps to fight coronavirus in a statewide address at 6 p.m. as the virus continues to spread in Iowa.”

6pm.

Might have to do a snark by snark review.

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Bitcoin pumping too.

I'm making bank big time.

About the only positive at this point.

Feeling quite grumpy.

huffy
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Right there with ya.

Hang in there.

I am seeking solace in salt and sugar.
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2004 study, but it gives some possible answers

[link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Published: 01 April 2004
A DNA vaccine induces SARS coronavirus neutralization and protective immunity in mice

Technically, this pandemic could have been stopped earlier if this vaccine was permitted to go into production.
But instead we whine about stupid politics and celebrate football wife beaters.
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That vaccine busted.....

Nor doing double research. The study I found is buried in here.
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Any news update on excess death rate from all causes
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The chart is pretty near the bottom of the page.

Keep in mind the data reporting lags by up to 6 and there is generally a three week delay between a rise in cases being reflected in deaths at this point.
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WOW!

Moderna Announces Longer Shelf Life for its COVID-19 Vaccine Candidate at Refrigerated Temperatures
Vaccine candidate now expected to remain stable at standard refrigerator temperatures of 2° to 8°C (36° to 46°F) for 30 days, up from previous estimate of 7 days

Shipping and long-term storage conditions at standard freezer temperatures of -20°C (-4°F) for 6 months

mRNA-1273 to be distributed using widely available vaccine delivery and storage infrastructure

No dilution required prior to vaccination

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Update about the person that tested positive that my friend had contact with.

Tested postive last Tuesday, already has pneumonia. Guess now it was a false postive? Not sure if its bilateral, trying to find out.

But fine to pneumonia within less than week. If its not covid, is something else going around causing pneumonia?

I am reminded of the plague outbreaks that were happening a few months ago. Wonder if there is any more news about that....
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It has to do with this.....folks don’t realize they are that sick.

Pain relief caused by SARS-CoV-2 infection may help explain COVID-19 spread


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 Quoting: CleverCreator


Hmm... so if the swab hurts, you're negative?

hmm
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


It doesn’t block all pain. But something about the lungs for sure.... several case studies were done on those car accident folks that had full blown covid19 pneumonia with no elephant on their chest pain.

Just thinking about it makes my lungs hurt.
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