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Multiple people are bringing this option up.

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Serious question. Y'all know what I do for a living. I'm too old to have kids and my hubby had the big V. Would you get the Pfizer vaccine? I can't stay home, my hubby and son are first responders so we are continuously exposed. Which is the lesser of the 2 evils? Covid or possible vaccine side effects?

Please, serious answers only. I'm too fucking tired for trolls.
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TH, I've been thinking ALOT about that, too. We're both well beyond the point of having kids. I had a hys when I was 40 and hubbie had the V after our youngest was born.

Y'all know I'm probably the least scientfic person here. That's why I stay out of those conversations and just read as much as I understand. Not all Americans have had the opportunity for college.

All of that said, I don't feel TRULY informed about them, in that I have a feeling we're not being told everything. What I do know isn't encouraging. I kind of feel like we're in a "damned if we do and damned if we don't" situation. What worries me more is my daughter told me the other day that she IS going to take the vax and she's going to do it for US, so we won't have to. I don't know how, but I've raised 2 liberal kids!

I think it might come down to is the hospital going to mandate it (I'd be surprised if they didn't) and if so, how bad do you want to stay a nurse.

Sorry, my friend, I just don't know yet, either.
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That's exactly how I feel. Just freaking stuck. My hospital is not mandating it as of right now. I have no idea what I would do if I wasn't a nurse. I don't have the patience or the mouth to be a teacher (my sister is a teacher and she tells me this all the time. LOL), I certainly can't become an accountant since I can't even add on a calculator, so I have no idea what I would do. I love taking care of people who appreciate it and even some that don't. It's satisfying to get a visit from a pt you KNEW was going to die, but they survived because of what we did in the ER. I'm going to wait until my friends and coworkers get that 2nd dose before making a decision anyway. I have 2 more weeks to fret over it.

oh lort
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We're on the same page, TH. I've been trying to get my daughter to just wait and see what happens this first round. She doesn't have to get it for work, as far as I know. Being home and retired, I don't have to get it yet, either.

My concern for myself is, how will it affect my kidneys and other chronic stuff I have. The kidney shutdown several years ago was a huge eye opener! Everything I take in, I judge by them. I have to research every new thing I want/need to put in my body. I almost died then, I don't want a repeat performance!

Some people have said the vax is the mark of the beast. I don't believe that for a bunch of reasons. I DO think they way the governments are going about getting it out is major conditioning for the mark, though. It may be the vax won't hurt you. I'm just watching....like I always do.
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Most strange. I live in the epicentre of this new variant a coastal town in South East England where is supposedly ripping it's way through.

I'm out like always every day, I havent worn a mask since March at work or in shops and havent taken any of these silly precautions and havent got ill at all.

All sounds staged to me.
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I heard only Asians can get it...

ohyeah
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Wales? You mean the place with super covid?


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QuoteThere were 79 fewer COVID-related deaths across both nations in the week ending 11 December.

11th December -- 11 days ago. That was the same week when the surge started. Welsh deaths are up by 50% since then. Shill boy.
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Serious question. Y'all know what I do for a living. I'm too old to have kids and my hubby had the big V. Would you get the Pfizer vaccine? I can't stay home, my hubby and son are first responders so we are continuously exposed. Which is the lesser of the 2 evils? Covid or possible vaccine side effects?

Please, serious answers only. I'm too fucking tired for trolls.
 Quoting: Tarnished Halo




I've seen soooo many different views on this from a variety of scientists which, coupled with countless articles featuring such reassuring words as "could", "may", "might", etc., makes me and Mrs. Croc NOT interested in being first in line.

Not to be crass, I never buy the first model year of a new vehicle; preferring to let them work the bugs out and offer a much improved version in year two.

Just an opinion, one of many I'm sure, but thought I'd offer at least one way for you to consider viewing the "opportunity".
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Oh.

A computer glitch has seen 11,000 coronavirus cases missed off the official count in Wales last week.

So this weeks is actually lower. Got it.

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Didn't Biden PROMISE to CRUSH THE VIRUS???

Now he's telling people to expect the DARKEST of times!!!

That fucker ain't even in and he's breaking god damn promises
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He's just warming up...
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President-elect Biden with a stark warning says the country will lose thousands of lives before the coronavirus pandemic ends and says the COVID vaccine can’t stop that.

He adds: I’m going to tell it to you straight our darkest days are ahead of us not behind us.

Is he a GLP'er?
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He’s a CCP’er.
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New Zealand.

"A living wage is the income necessary to provide workers and their families with the basic necessities of life. A living wage will enable workers to live with dignity and to participate as active citizens in society. We call upon the Government, employers and society as a whole to strive for a living wage for all households as a necessary and important step in the reduction of poverty in New Zealand.”

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No community Covid and a living wage. I’m sure somebody thinks both of things suck.
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My tomatoes have mutated into blackcurrants should I bring them in?
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It's far too late for that, my friend...


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Serious question. Y'all know what I do for a living. I'm too old to have kids and my hubby had the big V. Would you get the Pfizer vaccine? I can't stay home, my hubby and son are first responders so we are continuously exposed. Which is the lesser of the 2 evils? Covid or possible vaccine side effects?

Please, serious answers only. I'm too fucking tired for trolls.
 Quoting: Tarnished Halo




I've seen soooo many different views on this from a variety of scientists which, coupled with countless articles featuring such reassuring words as "could", "may", "might", etc., makes me and Mrs. Croc NOT interested in being first in line.

Not to be crass, I never buy the first model year of a new vehicle; preferring to let them work the bugs out and offer a much improved version in year two.

Just an opinion, one of many I'm sure, but thought I'd offer at least one way for you to consider viewing the "opportunity".
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I always value your opinion! I'll wait until they get the 2nd shot for sure. I've read things until my eyes feel like they're going to bleed. If we weren't continuously exposed I wouldn't feel so pressured to take it for a year. On one hand I don't think they'd give it to the people who will be taking care of everyone if it was going to kill us all, but on the other hand I understand how awful TPTB are.
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Serious question. Y'all know what I do for a living. I'm too old to have kids and my hubby had the big V. Would you get the Pfizer vaccine? I can't stay home, my hubby and son are first responders so we are continuously exposed. Which is the lesser of the 2 evils? Covid or possible vaccine side effects?

Please, serious answers only. I'm too fucking tired for trolls.
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I've seen soooo many different views on this from a variety of scientists which, coupled with countless articles featuring such reassuring words as "could", "may", "might", etc., makes me and Mrs. Croc NOT interested in being first in line.

Not to be crass, I never buy the first model year of a new vehicle; preferring to let them work the bugs out and offer a much improved version in year two.

Just an opinion, one of many I'm sure, but thought I'd offer at least one way for you to consider viewing the "opportunity".
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


I always value your opinion! I'll wait until they get the 2nd shot for sure. I've read things until my eyes feel like they're going to bleed. If we weren't continuously exposed I wouldn't feel so pressured to take it for a year. On one hand I don't think they'd give it to the people who will be taking care of everyone if it was going to kill us all, but on the other hand I understand how awful TPTB are.
 Quoting: Tarnished Halo



I enjoy reading history. Often it's the third, fourth, or fifth book down the line that starts to add accuracy about what really happened.

Time after time after time for the better part of the last 100 years we can see how blatantly our governments have willingly lied to us, the folks supposedly they "serve". In each and every case they've rationalized those falsehoods and it's always "it was for their own good".

I'm reminded of the Al Pacino line from "A Few Good Men" where he shouts, "you CAN'T HANDLE the truth."

Yeah, actually I can, I'm all growed up and learned a long, long time ago that if you tell the truth you don't need a good memory. I wish they'd try it sometime.

Given that? My rushing to take the vaccine could best be characterized as me being Charlie Brown and the "we're from the government and we're here to help you" folks playing the part of Lucy holding the football...

We have folks in our government who think very dispassionately in terms of "acceptable losses", "collateral damage", etc.

And who can forget the kind folks at Ford who did a quiet calculation about the cost of fixing the Pinto gas tank versus the cost of paying lawsuit settlements for people who were incinerated in accidents involving those cars once the design flaws were recognized.

Some might see me as cynical, I see me as a student of history and less gullible the older I get.

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Can confirm.

Put insulation type inserts into the windows. And if too many rooms, block off ones that don’t have pipes.

Folks need to be thinking about how to block off sewer if electricity is permanently lost.
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Why would you block of sewer?

I have septic so i dont care hehe and my well pump is solar rated for 500 gallons a day so im good
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If the electricity is permanently gone...... google what happens when sewer pumps stop working.
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Shit runs down hill

If you've got apartments, even just ONE house uphill from you?

Your place will fill with their shit.

They DO make a "One Way" Shit valve. Better hope you septic has one !

If you have an apartment building, or housing "Complex' uphill from you?

Better Install a fukking valve, or better a Shut Off !

~Hnry~


manhole5
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That's why we're on well and septic and going to stay that way.
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Wales? You mean the place with super covid?


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Why do people still need explaining that there is a lagging factor in deaths over cases?


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Wales deaths looking bad. Wait till the spike hits


I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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Oh, TB, that makes me so sad. Lifting you up in prayer, friend. hf
 Quoting: Serenity Now


It goes in spurts. I try to stay really busy, so I don't have time to remember right now. We've lost 3 parents in 3 years. That doesn't count all the extended family and friends...before Covid. It's just that time of life, I guess. We're lucky we had them all for as long as we did. My grandparents didn't have their parents. They passed before we were born. My mom barely remembered her own grandparents. My dad was a little luckier. His grandmother passed when I was in high school.

Anyway, thanks hon. I really appreciate it. I'm a bit bah humbuggy today. No sun today and it doesn't feel the least like Christmas. The give away thread was fun, but it's over. Is it January yet? I'm ready. I'm going to hibernate.
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I haven't "celebrated" Christmas since 1998. My little girl was 5. We never had another Christmas. I hate this time of year with the heat of a thousand suns. And even to this day I can't watch a movie or a TV show involving a man and his daughter without ending up in a fetal position. Some days I can control it better than others, but it never really goes away.

So I get it. When it cuts that deep, feeling nothing is better. You be as humbuggy as you want to be. You don't owe anyone the facade of enjoying the holiday.

I wish you the best, TB. Just wanted you to know I really do understand.
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Jesus Christ, Riff Raff. I have no words. I thought you just didn't have kids, like me.

I am praying for you with all of my heart that you will get through this week with as little pain as possible.
 Quoting: Serenity Now


I appreciate the sentiment. Alazopram kind of helps. Sorta. It's usually just easier saying I don't have children. None of my coworkers know, and only a few close friends, beyond family of course. But with TB, LJS, Jackal, and so many others on here dealing with this on a personal level now, during the holidays, it just kind of got to me and I posted off the cuff. I normally don't talk about it; sorry.
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It goes in spurts. I try to stay really busy, so I don't have time to remember right now. We've lost 3 parents in 3 years. That doesn't count all the extended family and friends...before Covid. It's just that time of life, I guess. We're lucky we had them all for as long as we did. My grandparents didn't have their parents. They passed before we were born. My mom barely remembered her own grandparents. My dad was a little luckier. His grandmother passed when I was in high school.

Anyway, thanks hon. I really appreciate it. I'm a bit bah humbuggy today. No sun today and it doesn't feel the least like Christmas. The give away thread was fun, but it's over. Is it January yet? I'm ready. I'm going to hibernate.
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I haven't "celebrated" Christmas since 1998. My little girl was 5. We never had another Christmas. I hate this time of year with the heat of a thousand suns. And even to this day I can't watch a movie or a TV show involving a man and his daughter without ending up in a fetal position. Some days I can control it better than others, but it never really goes away.

So I get it. When it cuts that deep, feeling nothing is better. You be as humbuggy as you want to be. You don't owe anyone the facade of enjoying the holiday.

I wish you the best, TB. Just wanted you to know I really do understand.
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Jesus Christ, Riff Raff. I have no words. I thought you just didn't have kids, like me.

I am praying for you with all of my heart that you will get through this week with as little pain as possible.
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I am sorry for your loss. Sorry doesn't really express how I feel, but it will have to do.
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I get it. Thank you. hf
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Serious question. Y'all know what I do for a living. I'm too old to have kids and my hubby had the big V. Would you get the Pfizer vaccine? I can't stay home, my hubby and son are first responders so we are continuously exposed. Which is the lesser of the 2 evils? Covid or possible vaccine side effects?

Please, serious answers only. I'm too fucking tired for trolls.
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Entirely up to you, but me personally, I will be taking the vaccine option, it's the better option for me at the moment.....
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I’ve had my spunk on ice in the cryobank in Munich for a few years and now it seems like it was a wise decision. I may be the Omega man with one of the few pre Covid semen samples on earth.

My sample was 30x more potent with active sperm than normal too!
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Serious question. Y'all know what I do for a living. I'm too old to have kids and my hubby had the big V. Would you get the Pfizer vaccine? I can't stay home, my hubby and son are first responders so we are continuously exposed. Which is the lesser of the 2 evils? Covid or possible vaccine side effects?

Please, serious answers only. I'm too fucking tired for trolls.
 Quoting: Tarnished Halo


It's a toss up.

If you're not having kids, at least you don't have to worry about birth defects.

My biggest concern, is not that the vaccine has major side effects (of course it does), but that it's also ineffective (all the pharma research focuses on the effectiveness of it at least temporarily preventing full blown COVID (or symptomatic as they call it), while downplaying the fact that people are still catching the virus after vaccination (or asymptomatic with a positive test, as they call it).

Edit: There's also the fact that the people in many of these studies simply would not have had time to develop full blown COVID when the data was collected and would still be in the initial asymptomatic stages.

Who wants vaccine side effects plus Sars-CoV-2/COVID-19?

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The may wars begun, they have.
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Let the record show that I didn't start it this time!
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Nef!! Where art tho?!?

I like any mayo.

But shhhh Dutchy still gets blurgh when I put ranch on my french fries!
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Sheboygan county, Wi, is known for having the largest mink farms in the US mink farm capital state so I thought I’d check in to see Sheboygan’s Covid19 infection status.

They are running 1,068.9 infections per 100,000 people.

dead dead3
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Interesting. I live in Ontario, Canada, and we’re running roughly the same infection rate per 100K of population, about 1,045 cases. Yet the population of Ontario is almost three times that of Wisconsin.

Ontario will be going into a province-wide lockdown in five days to address increasing case rates that are threatening to completely swamp the hospitals.
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Sheboygan county, Wi, is known for having the largest mink farms in the US mink farm capital state so I thought I’d check in to see Sheboygan’s Covid19 infection status.

They are running 1,068.9 infections per 100,000 people.

dead dead3
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Interesting. I live in Ontario, Canada, and we’re running roughly the same infection rate per 100K of population, about 1,045 cases. Yet the population of Ontario is almost three times that of Wisconsin.

Ontario will be going into a province-wide lockdown in five days to address increasing case rates that are threatening to completely swamp the hospitals.
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Most strange. I live in the epicentre of this new variant a coastal town in South East England where is supposedly ripping it's way through.

I'm out like always every day, I havent worn a mask since March at work or in shops and havent taken any of these silly precautions and havent got ill at all.

All sounds staged to me.
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I heard only Asians can get it...

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DAMN IT!

I will NOT repeat MARCH!!!
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Wales? You mean the place with super covid?


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QuoteThere were 79 fewer COVID-related deaths across both nations in the week ending 11 December.

11th December -- 11 days ago. That was the same week when the surge started. Welsh deaths are up by 50% since then. Shill boy.
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Get It!
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I'm so sorry for all of you who are grieving losses. Recent, less recent, or impending.

Riff, I had no idea you had been through that, and your words really hit me hard. I can't imagine losing a child. That pain never goes away, I'm sure.

This time of year is so hard for anyone who associates it with grief. Sending out love to you all.
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hf
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still a nothingburger
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Only with Dukes Mayo, please.
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Is Dukes as good as everyone claims?
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Absolutely.

I always keep it topped in my preps.

If we go grid down, I will have my Dukes. Damnit!
Fate whispers to the warrior

"You cannot withstand the storm"

the warrior whispers back

"I am the storm"

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still a nothingburger
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Only with Dukes Mayo, please.
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Is Dukes as good as everyone claims?
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Absolutely.

I always keep it topped in my preps.

If we go grid down, I will have my Dukes. Damnit!
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I can’t handle grid down thoughts just yet! I need my boy bands.....

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Are we being prepared and fast tracked to a real time life education?

Witnessing 21st century hunger, suffering , vulnerability, humble, critical thinking, strength, self reflection, spirituality, unity, rely on others.

Insert more

Does it not appear that the whole world is being preconditioned for a new mindset. In preparation for what?

Maybe Covid was just the stepping stone towards this education.

ask yourself
“Why does it appear we ALL are being forced to accept these emotions, preparation for what?”





GLP