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AC3713....

The virus has arrived at a point that most folks don’t get pneumonia. What you should be aware of is that won’t stop the other issues.

HIV positive folks.... some just get a smidge of sniffles at the very beginning.... but you already know the rest of that story.

Yes, I will take the time to pay attention..... those that want to use the information great....

You..... do you..... I plan on not playing the role of human guinea pig.... be it China Asshole Virus or vaccine.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Imagine if everyone acted like you, hiding from the virus by completely withdrawing from society

Civilization would collapse. No more power grid, public sanitation, food for sale, etc.

I.e. all the things you rely on to survive. (I know, you claim that you are prepped and could survive, but that's laughable.)

You should be praising all the people less cowardly than you for keeping shit afloat. Instead you act sanctimonious and call them stupid.
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You know it's odd, I realize this is a conspiracy theory site but as the years go on I've become less and less of a conspiracy theorist.

I think it started with the marathon bombing, I know people who were there, I know people who treated victims, and a good friend of mine was close with the MIT cop those assholes assassinated and was devastated by the loss. I also have met cops that were involved in the investigation and can confirm that this event actually happened, people died, and those two fucks were the ones who did it.

Kinda turned me off to the "everything is a hoax" movement after seeing how many people on here swear nobody died, no bombs went off, etc.

This whole Texas thing is another event like that, there are so many bullshit theories being spun and all of them are bullshit. When it comes down to it, engineers just never expected for it to get this cold this long that far south and that fuckup led to all of this.

Working down south in the past I was always shocked at the lack of freeze protection, for the past 100 years things worked fine but in the past 20 years the entire nation's power gird has transitioned from coal and oil to natural gas because it's both cheaper and cleaner.

In more northern climates it's normal for gas curtailments to happen giving priority to residential heating over power generation, we keep a few plants with the capability to burn oil for those scenarios but in the south they just didn't figure that was likely... and now they're paying the price.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Word, I completely agree with you.

I think most of the Grand Conspiracy Theories on GLP are bogus including:

1. Masons are kinda like the Illuminati
2. We never went to the Moon
3. The Vatican runs everything
4. Tiny Israel runs the world

Not to mention the bonkers Flat Erfers.

However, in my life I have been close to REAL news events and the cover ups:

1. KAL007 DID have cameras on board and was being flown for recon. Russkis took offense. I was dating a woman who helped install the cameras.

2. Shuttle Challenger was NOT brought down by an O-ring but by an engineering error. NASA and a contractor were both guilty. The Accident Commission head did not find out until after they had a press conference blaming O-rings. I'll bet the NASA Administrator never learned the truth.

3. TWA Flt 800 was brought down by OUR missiles fired from a sub during a secret test of a new weapons system.

When the fedgov realized it was an error by a Black World program, they put out the BS story about exploding center fuel tank. Russians and Chicoms were not fooled. The propaganda campaign was to fool the American people.

4. Shuttle Columbia was brought down by the weakness of the leading edge of the wing. I was IN the meeting where we told NASA they had to replace the leading edge.

There are more, but that's enough evidence.

Oh, and ref the 9/11 attacks, I am just not sure. Looked suspicious!

Analysis: There ARE conspiracies and coverups, but you have to discern the real from the BS and smoke screens.

Oh yeah, Epstein did not kill himself.

And DJT won the election!
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Y'ouch!

We’ll Have Herd Immunity by April
Covid cases have dropped 77% in six weeks. Experts should level with the public about the good news.

[link to www.wsj.com (secure)]

My prediction that Covid-19 will be mostly gone by April is based on laboratory data, mathematical data, published literature and conversations with experts. But it’s also based on direct observation of how hard testing has been to get, especially for the poor. If you live in a wealthy community where worried people are vigilant about getting tested, you might think that most infections are captured by testing. But if you have seen the many barriers to testing for low-income Americans, you might think that very few infections have been captured at testing centers. Keep in mind that most infections are asymptomatic, which still triggers natural immunity.

epiclol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78265955


Hope you are correct. I maintain hopium, but am prepared if hopium fails.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith

God, I really hope you're right, We are being mentally and physically abused by this virus, as are my friends and family. Unfortunately, I am afraid you are wrong.
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i have realized that some knowledge that i think is common is not.so i will go thru this more.


the medical field claims it extended life expectancy. that is not totally true.they take credit for advances that were not their own.and the math itself is flawed.

life expectancy is an average # of what all ppl will live to. in the days of history;pioneer or pilgrims,etc.; children died at young ages more often than today.let's take 100 ppl. if 20 of them die before they are 5 yrs old,that will cheat the average down.does not matter if the 80 lived to be 50,80,or 100. 20% dyinig before 5 will push the overall average down. shall i do the math??

so even if ppl lived as long as today,the life expectancy age # would b lower just due to that fact.now what was done that made children live longer?why did they die before 5 yrs of age back in time? CONSTRUCTION IMPROVEMENTS not medical.

let's look at the life of a baby in pioneer days. cold air would blow thru the houses.this would lead to sicknesses and weaken the children.add to this water to wash with. this too is construction related. we now have plumbing with running water in houses.we also have furnaces that will keep working all thru the night even if nobody stays up to watch it,unlike a fireplace with heat flowing up thru the chimney out of the house.

shall i continue with ag and your food? they now doctor up the food. go look at any package of food. see all those extra chemicals? that wasn't added in the 16 or 1700's. why not? is your food better today? no,it is garbage compared to home grown fresh food. they tell u this themselves. so the food isn't helping u live longer and could b weakening you also.hmm funny bout that.

you do have better safety protocals now to help stop ppl from dying of an early death. accidents,infections,odds of being shot with an arrow,odds of dying at work,all these have helped increase the odds that once u pass 5 years of age u should not die prematurely.unless we counter that with radiation that brought in cancer.

should we go back further in history and looko at bible times? how did those ppl live into their 100's and several 100's of years????
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Jazz, if you go back to 1900 and look at "cause of death" you will see that many succumbed to bacterial infections such as TB.

Antibiotics made a BIG difference in deaths especially for children.

Peace, Bro.
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It's a respiratory virus with a R number 5 times that of COVID.

Sanitation ain't gonna make it go away.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Healthier children are less likely to die I would have thought. Good sanitation and a rise in living standards would contribute to that.
 Quoting: BertTabernacle


Measles cases went from like 450k per year every year up to 1964 to 25k in 1968 onward and then down to near zero... there wasn't any great change in sanitation but there was a vaccine that just happened to come out at the time.

This wasn't turn of the century shit, my parents remember people getting it.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth



The MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine is what almost ended measles outbreaks in the US.

If a pregnant woman caught measles during the first trimester of her pregnancy it was pretty common that the child was going to be born with a serious hearing impairment. Without wanting to sound insensitive, those children were referred to in the educational system as "rubella babies".

Any school system of even moderate size had classes for hearing impaired students. Most states had a "School for the Deaf". A lot of universities and colleges had, within their education departments, curricula for "teachers of the hearing impaired", the slang for which was "deaf ed."

Most of those programs? Gone.

Why? The vaccine. Simple as that.

Next stop? Go back to the Salk vaccine for polio. Followed by the oral Sabin vaccine.

Next stop? Tuberculosis vaccine.

Next stop? Diptheria, Pertussis, and Typhoid. The DPT vaccine.

Done properly the benefits of vaccines over the years have all but eliminated any number of diseases that either killed or seriously detracted from the quality of life for a large number of people.

Done properly.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc

"Done properly". Vaccine development typically is a long, complex process, often lasting 10-15 years and involving a combination of public and private involvement. These covid-19 vaccines appear to have been rushed through, making the vaccinated the guinea pigs.
I am willing to be a guinea pig for the sake of my family, but I am getting jabbed knowing that, and everybody has to understand and make that choice.
At my age, long term effects isn't really a concern... [link to www.historyofvaccines.org (secure)]

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You know it's odd, I realize this is a conspiracy theory site but as the years go on I've become less and less of a conspiracy theorist.

I think it started with the marathon bombing, I know people who were there, I know people who treated victims, and a good friend of mine was close with the MIT cop those assholes assassinated and was devastated by the loss. I also have met cops that were involved in the investigation and can confirm that this event actually happened, people died, and those two fucks were the ones who did it.

Kinda turned me off to the "everything is a hoax" movement after seeing how many people on here swear nobody died, no bombs went off, etc.

This whole Texas thing is another event like that, there are so many bullshit theories being spun and all of them are bullshit. When it comes down to it, engineers just never expected for it to get this cold this long that far south and that fuckup led to all of this.

Working down south in the past I was always shocked at the lack of freeze protection, for the past 100 years things worked fine but in the past 20 years the entire nation's power gird has transitioned from coal and oil to natural gas because it's both cheaper and cleaner.

In more northern climates it's normal for gas curtailments to happen giving priority to residential heating over power generation, we keep a few plants with the capability to burn oil for those scenarios but in the south they just didn't figure that was likely... and now they're paying the price.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Word, I completely agree with you.

I think most of the Grand Conspiracy Theories on GLP are bogus including:

1. Masons are kinda like the Illuminati
2. We never went to the Moon
3. The Vatican runs everything
4. Tiny Israel runs the world

Not to mention the bonkers Flat Erfers.

However, in my life I have been close to REAL news events and the cover ups:

1. KAL007 DID have cameras on board and was being flown for recon. Russkis took offense. I was dating a woman who helped install the cameras.

2. Shuttle Challenger was NOT brought down by an O-ring but by an engineering error. NASA and a contractor were both guilty. The Accident Commission head did not find out until after they had a press conference blaming O-rings. I'll bet the NASA Administrator never learned the truth.

3. TWA Flt 800 was brought down by OUR missiles fired from a sub during a secret test of a new weapons system.

When the fedgov realized it was an error by a Black World program, they put out the BS story about exploding center fuel tank. Russians and Chicoms were not fooled. The propaganda campaign was to fool the American people.

4. Shuttle Columbia was brought down by the weakness of the leading edge of the wing. I was IN the meeting where we told NASA they had to replace the leading edge.

There are more, but that's enough evidence.

Oh, and ref the 9/11 attacks, I am just not sure. Looked suspicious!

Analysis: There ARE conspiracies and coverups, but you have to discern the real from the BS and smoke screens.

Oh yeah, Epstein did not kill himself.

And DJT won the election!
 Quoting: darth

You had me, with some reservations, until the last sentence. Care to elaborate?
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AC3713....

The virus has arrived at a point that most folks don’t get pneumonia. What you should be aware of is that won’t stop the other issues.

HIV positive folks.... some just get a smidge of sniffles at the very beginning.... but you already know the rest of that story.

Yes, I will take the time to pay attention..... those that want to use the information great....

You..... do you..... I plan on not playing the role of human guinea pig.... be it China Asshole Virus or vaccine.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Imagine if everyone acted like you, hiding from the virus by completely withdrawing from society

Civilization would collapse. No more power grid, public sanitation, food for sale, etc.

I.e. all the things you rely on to survive. (I know, you claim that you are prepped and could survive, but that's laughable.)

You should be praising all the people less cowardly than you for keeping shit afloat. Instead you act sanctimonious and call them stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80069653


Please continue to twist what you believe to be my intentions and thoughts.

I have survived several months without power.... it sucked, but I learned that early on that being a creative thinker is a beautiful blessing. I made a hot water shower without even having an adult education.

And as I will always advocate..... everyone should have six months of food and be ready for no power.

Preplanning is essential.... root cellars.... make sure you know your area’s radon levels. Greenhouse.... hexagon.... design it like the weather radar.... able to withstand strong winds.....look into proper anchoring.

We are past the point of a normal return..... and the stoopid ones.... those are the selfish ones that think vacations to Mexico are okay and that children should be in school.

And pointing out irresponsible normalcy bias is not calling someone stoopid.... self control over a long period of time is really fucking hard for most people. And it’s why this shitshow unfortunately keeps on rolling downhill.
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it isn't just him thou CC. as others have stated, it gets old seeing the same BS day after day. hence why i threw questions at him. he can put up logically or STFU. but until then we should all stop feeding the troll. it serves no purpose.
 Quoting: JAZZz50



I agree. It is unbearable in here now. I used to wait until nighttime when the trolls and shills clock out for the day, but I'm in a different time zone now.

They have truly hijacked the thread. I'm going to put ACs on ignore (sorry, good ACs), but it won't do any good if people quote them over and over all day long.

I am begging you guys to ignore them. PLEASE stop for a minute and realize that almost everyone has left this thread. And it is because of the arguing with trolls and shills.
 Quoting: Serenity Now

I know. They are intensely irritating. So are newspapers and reporters, to the government. Think of GLP as a democracy. And I hate to admit it occasionally, some good info comes out of these spats.
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it isn't just him thou CC. as others have stated, it gets old seeing the same BS day after day. hence why i threw questions at him. he can put up logically or STFU. but until then we should all stop feeding the troll. it serves no purpose.
 Quoting: JAZZz50



I agree. It is unbearable in here now. I used to wait until nighttime when the trolls and shills clock out for the day, but I'm in a different time zone now.

They have truly hijacked the thread. I'm going to put ACs on ignore (sorry, good ACs), but it won't do any good if people quote them over and over all day long.

I am begging you guys to ignore them. PLEASE stop for a minute and realize that almost everyone has left this thread. And it is because of the arguing with trolls and shills.
 Quoting: Serenity Now

I know. They are intensely irritating. So are newspapers and reporters, to the government. Think of GLP as a democracy. And I hate to admit it occasionally, some good info comes out of these spats.
 Quoting: Lago


Yah. I try to keep twatwaffles to a minimum.... but Thumper is on my short list due to his twisty Jezbel issues.

And George needs new material....

But just normies need to understand that a proper argument has a place.... and not the American translation for fighting with your opponent (Thumper and Horse’s Ass.... I am looking at you....)

Less than 50%

Argument is also about conversation. Although sometimes we forget, the best arguments are a forum for:

* Obtaining and expressing information
* Airing and sharing assumptions and reasons
* Establishing common ground
* Coming to mutual agreement

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The long and winding road
That leads to your door
Will never disappear
I've seen that road before
It always leads me here
Lead me to you door
The wild and windy night
That the rain washed away
Has left a pool of tears
Crying for the day
Why leave me standing here?
Let me know the way
Many times I've been alone
And many times I've cried
Anyway, you'll never know
The many ways I've tried
And still they lead me back
To the long winding road
You left me standing here
A long, long time ago
Don't leave me waiting here
Lead me to your door
But still they lead me back
To the long winding road
You left me standing here
A long, long time ago
Don't keep me waiting here
Lead me to your door
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The long and winding road
That leads to your door
Will never disappear
I've seen that road before
It always leads me here
Lead me to you door
The wild and windy night
That the rain washed away
Has left a pool of tears
Crying for the day
Why leave me standing here?
Let me know the way
Many times I've been alone
And many times I've cried
Anyway, you'll never know
The many ways I've tried
And still they lead me back
To the long winding road
You left me standing here
A long, long time ago
Don't leave me waiting here
Lead me to your door
But still they lead me back
To the long winding road
You left me standing here
A long, long time ago
Don't keep me waiting here
Lead me to your door
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CC gave me green! Thank-you Ichabod Crane bow.
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The long and winding road
That leads to your door
Will never disappear
I've seen that road before
It always leads me here
Lead me to you door
The wild and windy night
That the rain washed away
Has left a pool of tears
Crying for the day
Why leave me standing here?
Let me know the way
Many times I've been alone
And many times I've cried
Anyway, you'll never know
The many ways I've tried
And still they lead me back
To the long winding road
You left me standing here
A long, long time ago
Don't leave me waiting here
Lead me to your door
But still they lead me back
To the long winding road
You left me standing here
A long, long time ago
Don't keep me waiting here
Lead me to your door
 Quoting: Lago

CC gave me green! Thank-you Ichabod Crane bow.
 Quoting: Lago


:)

I tried to give you a fun poem too.... but the computer ate it....

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The Duel
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Healthier children are less likely to die I would have thought. Good sanitation and a rise in living standards would contribute to that.
 Quoting: BertTabernacle


Measles cases went from like 450k per year every year up to 1964 to 25k in 1968 onward and then down to near zero... there wasn't any great change in sanitation but there was a vaccine that just happened to come out at the time.

This wasn't turn of the century shit, my parents remember people getting it.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth



The MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine is what almost ended measles outbreaks in the US.

If a pregnant woman caught measles during the first trimester of her pregnancy it was pretty common that the child was going to be born with a serious hearing impairment. Without wanting to sound insensitive, those children were referred to in the educational system as "rubella babies".

Any school system of even moderate size had classes for hearing impaired students. Most states had a "School for the Deaf". A lot of universities and colleges had, within their education departments, curricula for "teachers of the hearing impaired", the slang for which was "deaf ed."

Most of those programs? Gone.

Why? The vaccine. Simple as that.

Next stop? Go back to the Salk vaccine for polio. Followed by the oral Sabin vaccine.

Next stop? Tuberculosis vaccine.

Next stop? Diptheria, Pertussis, and Typhoid. The DPT vaccine.

Done properly the benefits of vaccines over the years have all but eliminated any number of diseases that either killed or seriously detracted from the quality of life for a large number of people.

Done properly.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


<redacted>
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80068766

Done properly. Unfortunately?
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AC3713....

The virus has arrived at a point that most folks don’t get pneumonia. What you should be aware of is that won’t stop the other issues.

HIV positive folks.... some just get a smidge of sniffles at the very beginning.... but you already know the rest of that story.

Yes, I will take the time to pay attention..... those that want to use the information great....

You..... do you..... I plan on not playing the role of human guinea pig.... be it China Asshole Virus or vaccine.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Imagine if everyone acted like you, hiding from the virus by completely withdrawing from society

Civilization would collapse. No more power grid, public sanitation, food for sale, etc.

I.e. all the things you rely on to survive. (I know, you claim that you are prepped and could survive, but that's laughable.)

You should be praising all the people less cowardly than you for keeping shit afloat. Instead you act sanctimonious and call them stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80069653


Please continue to twist what you believe to be my intentions and thoughts.

I have survived several months without power.... it sucked, but I learned that early on that being a creative thinker is a beautiful blessing. I made a hot water shower without even having an adult education.

And as I will always advocate..... everyone should have six months of food and be ready for no power.

Preplanning is essential.... root cellars.... make sure you know your area’s radon levels. Greenhouse.... hexagon.... design it like the weather radar.... able to withstand strong winds.....look into proper anchoring.

We are past the point of a normal return..... and the stoopid ones.... those are the selfish ones that think vacations to Mexico are okay and that children should be in school.

And pointing out irresponsible normalcy bias is not calling someone stoopid.... self control over a long period of time is really fucking hard for most people. And it’s why this shitshow unfortunately keeps on rolling downhill.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


The actual flu is more deadly to kids than covid. I've tried both ways and my kid is happier in school with friends. No one in the class has missed a day being sick so far.
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Sorry to bring MORE good news.



We know we can give a single does of Pfizer, it doesn't need super cold storage, and Moderna can use 50ug instead of 100ug.

As soon as this gets peer reviewed, it means the vaccine capacity in the US basically doubles over night.

Roll up those sleeves!
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I got a better one. Roll over and show those cheeks. One jab for each!
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You know it's odd, I realize this is a conspiracy theory site but as the years go on I've become less and less of a conspiracy theorist.

I think it started with the marathon bombing, I know people who were there, I know people who treated victims, and a good friend of mine was close with the MIT cop those assholes assassinated and was devastated by the loss. I also have met cops that were involved in the investigation and can confirm that this event actually happened, people died, and those two fucks were the ones who did it.

Kinda turned me off to the "everything is a hoax" movement after seeing how many people on here swear nobody died, no bombs went off, etc.

This whole Texas thing is another event like that, there are so many bullshit theories being spun and all of them are bullshit. When it comes down to it, engineers just never expected for it to get this cold this long that far south and that fuckup led to all of this.

Working down south in the past I was always shocked at the lack of freeze protection, for the past 100 years things worked fine but in the past 20 years the entire nation's power gird has transitioned from coal and oil to natural gas because it's both cheaper and cleaner.

In more northern climates it's normal for gas curtailments to happen giving priority to residential heating over power generation, we keep a few plants with the capability to burn oil for those scenarios but in the south they just didn't figure that was likely... and now they're paying the price.
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Word, I completely agree with you.

I think most of the Grand Conspiracy Theories on GLP are bogus including:

1. Masons are kinda like the Illuminati
2. We never went to the Moon
3. The Vatican runs everything
4. Tiny Israel runs the world

Not to mention the bonkers Flat Erfers.

However, in my life I have been close to REAL news events and the cover ups:

1. KAL007 DID have cameras on board and was being flown for recon. Russkis took offense. I was dating a woman who helped install the cameras.

2. Shuttle Challenger was NOT brought down by an O-ring but by an engineering error. NASA and a contractor were both guilty. The Accident Commission head did not find out until after they had a press conference blaming O-rings. I'll bet the NASA Administrator never learned the truth.

3. TWA Flt 800 was brought down by OUR missiles fired from a sub during a secret test of a new weapons system.

When the fedgov realized it was an error by a Black World program, they put out the BS story about exploding center fuel tank. Russians and Chicoms were not fooled. The propaganda campaign was to fool the American people.

4. Shuttle Columbia was brought down by the weakness of the leading edge of the wing. I was IN the meeting where we told NASA they had to replace the leading edge.

There are more, but that's enough evidence.

Oh, and ref the 9/11 attacks, I am just not sure. Looked suspicious!

Analysis: There ARE conspiracies and coverups, but you have to discern the real from the BS and smoke screens.

Oh yeah, Epstein did not kill himself.

And DJT won the election!
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You had me, with some reservations, until the last sentence. Care to elaborate?
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Well, I wanted to avoid injecting politics into the thread, but since you asked:

I have worked in a dozen election cycles as an Election Judge, Alternate Judge, Poll Watcher, and in campaigns.

There was fraud in EVERY election I worked and it got worse every cycle. Why? Because almost nobody gets prosecuted.

In the recent election, just watch the testimony at the various state legislatures that had hearings.

1. HUNDREDS of affidavits of fraud and incorrect procedures such as throwing out Poll Watchers, boxes of ballots delivered in the night, no postmarks, ballots postmarked on dates AFTER they were delivered, postal workers transporting boxes of black ballots across state lines, no signature verification, etc.

2. As one small example, PA mailed out 1.7M ballots and got 2.5M back. How can that happen?

3. The most damning testimony was from US military cyberwarriors who testified that they saw and recorded the message traffic where ballots were read, the numbers went to locations in Europe, the ballots were "adjudicated", and then returned. You can watch the recorded videos showing total numbers for DJT dropping in real time as the same number of votes INCREASE for Biden.

There were plenty of threads on GLP with evidence from those witnesses. Its not all BS, although there is ALWAYS some BS on GLP.

DJT was hated by the DC bureaucracy, the Democrat Party, and even a lot of mainstream Republicans, but just look at his rallies to see the enthusiasm of his base.

Is that enough elaboration?
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At least we have the same taste in music.

I was driving my pickup down the 605 freeway with my kids strapped into car seats and blasting Judas Priest on the stereo.

Noticed other drivers looking at us with alarm.

Glanced at my kids; they were both banging their heads on their car seats.

The son is now a scientist. The daughter is an Alpha Female Corp Exec making more money than the Old Man ever did in a job.

I musta done something right.
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[link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Holy fuck greatest ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It did sound good with alcohol, honestly.

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[link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Holy fuck greatest ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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FYI:

Well, first let’s just address the big elephant in the room first. First, you should care because, “THEY TOLD YOU THAT THIS WAS IMPOSSIBLE AND TO JUST SHUT UP AND TAKE THE VACCINE.” These pathways that I hypothesized (and these researchers verified with their experiments) are not unknown to people who understand molecular biology at a deeper level. This is not hidden knowledge which is only available to the initiated. I can assure you that the people who are developing the vaccines are people who understand molecular biology at a very sophisticated level. So, why didn’t they discover this, or even ask this question, or even do some experiments to rule it out? Instead, they just used superficially simplistic biology 101 as a smoke screen to tell you that RNA doesn’t convert into DNA. This is utterly disingenuous, and this lack of candor is what motivated me to write my original article. They could have figured this out easily.

Second, there’s a big difference between the scenario where people randomly, and unwittingly, have their genetics monkeyed with because they were exposed to the coronavirus, and the scenario where we willfully vaccinate billions of people while telling them this isn’t happening. Wouldn’t you agree? What is the logic in saying, “Well, this bad thing may or may not happen to you, so we’re going to remove the mystery and ensure that it happens to everyone.”? In my best estimate, this is an ethical decision that you ought to make, not them.

Third, the RNA in the vaccine is a different animal than the RNA produced by the virus. The RNA in the vaccine is artificially engineered. First, it is engineered to stay around in your cells for a much longer time than usual (RNA is naturally unstable and degrades quickly in the cell). Second, it is engineered such that it is efficient at being translated into protein (they accomplish this by codon optimization). Increasing the stability of the RNA increases the probability that it will become integrated into your DNA; and, increasing the translation efficiency increases the amount of protein translated from the RNA if it does happen to become incorporated into your DNA in a transcriptionally active region of your genome. Theoretically, this means that whatever negative effects are associated with the natural process of viral RNA/DNA integration, these negative effects could be more frequent and more pronounced with the vaccine when compared to the natural virus.

As a side note, these researchers found that the genetic information for the nucleocapsid “N” protein was, by far, the largest culprit for being permanently integrated into human DNA (because this RNA is more abundant when the virus replicates in our cells). The vaccine, on the other hand, contains RNA that encodes the Spike (S) protein. Therefore, if the mRNA from the vaccine (or subsegments thereof) were to make its way into a transcriptionally-active region of our genome through a retro-integration process, it will cause our cells to produce an over-abundance of Spike protein, rather than N protein. Our immune system does make antibodies to both N and S proteins, but it is the Spike protein which is the prime target for our immune system because it exists on the outside of the virus. If our cells become permanent (rather than temporary) Spike Protein producing factories due to permanent alteration of our genomic DNA, this could lead to serious autoimmune problems. I would imagine that autoimmunity profiles arising from such a scenario would be differentiated based on order of events (i.e., whether or not someone is vaccinated before or after exposure to coronavirus).

Again, this is a theoretical exercise I am presenting for consideration. I am not making the claim that an mRNA vaccine will permanently alter your genomic DNA, and I didn’t make this claim in my first article, although it appears that troll sites made the fallacious claim that I did. I simply asked the question, and provided hypothetical, plausible molecular pathways by which such an event could occur. I believe this current research validates that this is at least plausible, and most likely probable. It most certainly deserves closer inspection and testing to rule this possibility out, and I would hope that a rigorous and comprehensive test program would be instituted with the same enthusiasm that propelled the vaccine haphazardly through the normal safety checkpoints.

Obviously, even given this information, people are still free to get vaccinated, and will do so according to the overall balance of risks and rewards that they perceive in their mind. The purpose of my article is to make sure you can make that assessment fairly by possessing all potential risks and rewards, rather than an incomplete set. For something as important as this, you should not be operating in the dark.

I would encourage you to share this article to let others know of the potential risks and rewards.
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It's a respiratory virus with a R number 5 times that of COVID.

Sanitation ain't gonna make it go away.
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Healthier children are less likely to die I would have thought. Good sanitation and a rise in living standards would contribute to that.
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Measles cases went from like 450k per year every year up to 1964 to 25k in 1968 onward and then down to near zero... there wasn't any great change in sanitation but there was a vaccine that just happened to come out at the time.

This wasn't turn of the century shit, my parents remember people getting it.
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The MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine is what almost ended measles outbreaks in the US.

If a pregnant woman caught measles during the first trimester of her pregnancy it was pretty common that the child was going to be born with a serious hearing impairment. Without wanting to sound insensitive, those children were referred to in the educational system as "rubella babies".

Any school system of even moderate size had classes for hearing impaired students. Most states had a "School for the Deaf". A lot of universities and colleges had, within their education departments, curricula for "teachers of the hearing impaired", the slang for which was "deaf ed."

Most of those programs? Gone.

Why? The vaccine. Simple as that.

Next stop? Go back to the Salk vaccine for polio. Followed by the oral Sabin vaccine.

Next stop? Tuberculosis vaccine.

Next stop? Diptheria, Pertussis, and Typhoid. The DPT vaccine.

Done properly the benefits of vaccines over the years have all but eliminated any number of diseases that either killed or seriously detracted from the quality of life for a large number of people.

Done properly.
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Done properly.

Yes. That is the point.

Vaccines kill and hurt infants in high rates nowadays.

Why? Because vaccines are not given properly.

Infants get up to 8 vaccines TOGETHER at one appointment.

Not done properly.

AND THIS;

Guess what?

SIDS IS NO MORE.

Why?

Because parents stopped their infants "wellvisits" and
their vaccinations at 2 4 and 6 months old because of the
covid pandemic.

In Japan they wait with vaccines until child is 2 years old.And they give them properly,one at a time.

No SIDS.
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German news says cases with old corona variant are becoming less, and we're opening kindergartens for all this Monday again.

On the other hand they're seeing corona cases with mutation variants on the rise and warn of them.
Just look what they did to Flensburg, a city in north Germany close to Denmark - they have the harshest restrictions now because of British mutation cases rising dramatically.

What we have here now is easening the lockdown because it worked (somehow with the old variant) and at the same time warning we need a even harder lockdown because of mutations.

But: we're opening up on Monday nonetheless.

Can't wrap my head around it, doesn't make sense for me?
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(December 10, 2020) Anti-vaxxer who founded non-profit Learn the Risk discovered dead by 9-year-old son
Brandy Vaughan was an activist who founded California non-profit Learn the Risk in 2015,
which is known for its billboard campaigns asserting vaccines are responsible for a large number of deaths of young children.
Best known for speaking out against the pharmaceutical industry and vaccines;
She worked for Merck between 2001-2004.
After leaving her job, Brandy Vaughan lived in Europe for 8 years with her son.
In December 2019, Brandy Vaughan explicitly stated that she would never commit suicide,
stating "I’ve NEVER had any thoughts of taking my own life, not once, ever.
Vaughan was found dead by her son on December 7, 2020.
According to some webpages, she died from gallbladder complications.
Erin Elizabeth wrote on Dec. 8 that there will be an independent autopsy,
Brandy did relate that she was fearful for attacks on her life and her house had been broken into several times.
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(February 18, 2021) Coroner’s Office Releases Findings in Brandy Vaughan Death Investigation
The Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Coroner’s Office has completed the death investigation of local community activist Brandy Vaughan.
The Sheriff’s Coroner’s Office conducted a thorough investigation which included an autopsy,
in depth toxicology screening, interviews and medical record review. At the conclusion of the Coroner’s months long investigation,
the Office determined the manner of her death to be caused by bi-lateral Pulmonary Thromboembolus.
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Strikingly, neutralization of all three South African B.1.351 strains was substantially

decreased (75.4-fold for v1, 97.2-fold for v2, and 93.6-fold for v3,p

< 0.0001 for all three). These

strains contain the same three RBD mutations as P.1 except for an asparagine versus threonine

substitution at K417 (K417N) (Figure 3C and S2) and several additional mutations in non-

RBD

regions. Surprisingly, we found that the neutralization of B.1.351 v2 and v3


I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

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