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88k !!!! people die in china per flu season from flu. forget that its only 15k fatalities. it is millions dead by now.
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How bad does it have to be when they burn the buildings rather than bring out the dead?

Its as bad, as bad can be.

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Your Balls are at risk..

From reddit: PerfectRuin19h

Risks of infertility for men, even with only mild symptoms. Kidney damage as well.
Virus Update
What men need to know now: It seems this virus might reduce/destroy men's fertility, even if they have no more than mild symptoms. (It also damages the kidneys.) This would mean it's crucial for people to do their utmost not to catch it, even if everyone in the mainstream media is trying to suggest it's no worse than the flu, or a mild cold. Someone should be warning men about this.
I'm going to do a video about it tomorrow, either before or after I go get some more face-masks.

From the paper: "The protein and mRNA expression of ACE2 in the testes is almost the highest in the body. Moreover, both cells inseminiferous ducts and Leydig cells showed high ACE2 expression level. These results indicate that testicular cells are the potential targets of 2019-nCoV."
"due to the potential pathogenicity of the virus to testicular tissues, clinicians should pay attention to the risk of testicular lesions in patients during hospitalization and later clinical follow-up, especially the assessment and appropriate intervention in young patients' fertility"

[link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)]

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It's Valentines Day, the world is ending, and I'm not fucking tonight. Something's wrong.
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There's still a few weeks until panic sex time. lol
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If I remember correctly, about 1.5k pages back.

February 14th was when The United Stares would “catch up with where China is at” or something like that. Don’t remember exactly what people were saying. It was thousands of posts ago. Been on this thread since near the start lol. But it seems like each day people keep bringing up “2 weeks until America collapses” or “wait 2 weeks until The US sees people dying”.

But it just isn’t happening. Now I may be proven wrong, and I’ll eat those words while I crap my pants and wish I was right. But I just can’t see how it’s going to be a HUGE deal in anywhere outside of China. Especially when it’s been around for months, with travel all over. Multiple incubation periods burned through. Sick people coming and going. And the only “sick” ones that we have in the US are the ones flown into quarantine.

Of course, they could be lying and there could be thousands of ticking time bombs walking around shedding this COVID-19 soup wherever they go. But I think it’s deeper than that. And I think, outside of Asians, the only thing we will have to worry about is bouncing back from an economic collapse that will rival the Great Depression and the start of WWIII due to this. Because if it in fact does just have this effect on Asians, and Asian men in particular as it has been shown to target more predominantly. It could be interpreted as an “act of war” on China by the US.

I believe this point was brought up earlier. And I believe it is a valid point a lot of people overlook. I think this “virus” is the 9/11 of China. Killing their own people to blame the US into going to war. Only this time, it will be a world at war.

Sorry, back to valentines panic sex now.
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So GLPers, (<--- is that the term? Sorry, I am new pretty new.)

I am taking what is going on pretty serious and I have a few questions (Which I am sure people want to know, myself included):

1.) What are the best threads for prepping? I am sure some people would want to know; including myself.

2.) What are the best threads for self-sustainment after prepping supply runs out?

3.) What are the best threads for medical treatment?

4.) What are the best threads to cover the stuff to know or have on hand about surviving for when this thing does finally blow up?

I will be honest this shit looks bad very bad from my end; like BAD very BAD; literally beyond easily describing or explaining why bad.

I know the time for prepping is coming to an end where I am. Though I think there are people that still have time depending on their location.
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Several National Security reports by Congressional Research Services got updated due to the coronavirus pandemic. They can be found at that link.

That is a MAJOR red flag.
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If you end up running out of meds:

1. Hibiscus tea is so powerful at lowering blood pressure that it may certainly help. As will a big spoonful of cocoa powder and obviously stop drinking anything caffinated.
2. St. John's Wort is what people used to take before Prozac for treating Depression.

Straight away these are two of the biggest issues.

Olive Leaf and Grapefruit Seed Extract kill bacterial infections but most people taking meds can't take the latter as it can either interfere with cytchrome P450 in the liver OR it can potentiate ie make some meds stronger.
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Cocoa powder and dark chocolate are bad for those with heart conditions though.

Cinnamon will help regulate blood sugar for those with diabetes. cinnamon and honey together are really good.

Oranges will bring up blood sugar quick - or Orange juice if possible.
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Nope. Cocoa and dark chocolate are good for the heart. Look it up.
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With red wine!
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case fatality rate-CFR

Early on they kept saying they couldn't really get a right answer because not enough people were thru the event either recovered or dead. Now we have enough to get a good answer. Why are they still counting it at 2%?

7720 recovered
1523 dead
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9243

1523 divided by 9243 is 16%

Wouldn't the CFR be 16% then?

What am I missing? Am I doing something wrong?
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CDC now operating on the premise that #COVID19 may have been in the US for a while & may be occurring alongside the flu. Altho data confirm flu B is driving a hi volume of illnesses, some tests are neither flu A nor B, yet percent of flu-like illness is up USE-FULL-LINK-ifRcHb9VZI USE-FULL-LINK-Xhg96OAwNW

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R40619 is the Congressional Research Services report on the role of the Department of Defense in times of pandemic. That should looked through. It was generated when the feds though H1N1 was going to be a disaster.
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stop panicking.
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case fatality rate-CFR

Early on they kept saying they couldn't really get a right answer because not enough people were thru the event either recovered or dead. Now we have enough to get a good answer. Why are they still counting it at 2%?

7720 recovered
1523 dead
________________

9243

1523 divided by 9243 is 16%

Wouldn't the CFR be 16% then?

What am I missing? Am I doing something wrong?
 Quoting: Ricky Retardo



That or you can take the number of infected from roughly two weeks ago and calculate it by the number of dead today to see who is (or isn't) still surviving after two weeks.

Either way, you're going to get a number a hell of a lot higher than 2%.

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Keep breathing. There's no sense in coming for the show if you're going to die during the opening act.

"The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."

Silencing yourself and living in the dark just means you've left yourself exposed to the type of people who wander the dark looking for victims who won't scream.

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If you end up running out of meds:

1. Hibiscus tea is so powerful at lowering blood pressure that it may certainly help. As will a big spoonful of cocoa powder and obviously stop drinking anything caffinated.
2. St. John's Wort is what people used to take before Prozac for treating Depression.

Straight away these are two of the biggest issues.

Olive Leaf and Grapefruit Seed Extract kill bacterial infections but most people taking meds can't take the latter as it can either interfere with cytchrome P450 in the liver OR it can potentiate ie make some meds stronger.
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Cocoa powder is caffeinated, dingus. Holy shit, man. Civilization is collapsing and all you have is “drink hibiscus tea cuz it’ll calm you down”? You are a suck-ass prepper, son.
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Well dingdong, if you can't get your stabdard meds, and there literally no edical cures for Covid-19, then your solution is to panic?

I'm not impressed.
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#1 priority should be food/water.
#2 is medical needs. If you need meds, you should be telling your doc to prescribe extra because you’re going on a cruise or some shit.
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RL33609 is the Congressional Research Services report dealing with legal issues of forced quarantines and mandatory isolation.

It also was prepared in light of the H1N1 pandemic in the 2007-2009 period.
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stop panicking.
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the best illustration of Panic: is when you are Suffocating.
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Well dingdong, what good is asking for a prescription extension when China makes 80-90% of the raw materials for US pharmaceuticals and they are all in quarantine and not shipping any?

Honestly you must be a total newbie.
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stop panicking.
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If they were panicking, they wouldn't be on GLP but out buying all the preps they could get their hands on.

Doom talk is NOT panicking, it is preparing mentally for what COULD come.
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Jesus wept

So I've been looking and thinking and reading and hopefully learning.

So looking at the official numbers of cases in China (not worried if the numbers are accurate at this point), infection number are generally doubling every 72 hours.

You can start with any date and see for yourself.

So Friday 1/31, we were at 11,300 (give or take); today 2/3 we are at 20,622. Not quite a doubling, but pretty damned close.

In the USA, we had 1 reported case on January 21st. today 2/3 we have 11 reported cases - just shy of the doubling again, which should have put us at 12 reported cases today.

Let's test this

So if USA is at 12 cases today, I suggest we will be right around 24 cases on Thursday night, February 6th and around 48 cases on Sunday, February 9th.

In China, I think we will see a number around 21,000 by Thursday night, February 6th and around 42,000 on Sunday, February 9th.

If these numbers hold true, I'm pretty sure we are fucked.

And, if these numbers hold true, my ass is going to ground on Monday, February 10th.
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Damn good work man!
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Thanks! But it's not quite accurate, only because (I believe) we are being lied to by basically everybody.

My prediction for today (taped to my work computer) was 58,000 cases. Sadly, I underestimated the Chinese reporting.

And yes, I'm still at work waiting to bug out. My co-worker is still out with the "flu," and has been out since Thursday 2.6.2020.
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Hopefully it doesn’t turn out like my place. We shut down because we had so many people out with the flu. I and a couple others stayed after everyone went home and disinfected the entire office. Sunday I along with the other managers are going to be calling employees to see who is well and who isn’t and if it’s worthwhile to open up on Monday.

I’ve been with this company for 18 years and we’ve never closed down like this except for Hurricanes.
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Where are you located? Roughly.
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up.

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WSJ: US State Department to evacuate American citizens & their families on Japan cruise ship USE-FULL-LINK-cRaTG69bTq


WSJ: US State Department to evacuate American citizens & their families on Japan cruise ship USE-FULL-LINK-cRaTG69bTq

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Fluview is the standard influenza surveillance site for heathcare practioners based on the CDC and the various accumulated Morbidity and Mortality reports as they come in. That is where they are supposed to give updates so physicians have the latest intel. It's doubtful that during a genuine pandemic that actual tabulated results would be compiled as first they would be overwhelmed plus the calculations are done at the end of the time period and there would be lags and disgareements on cause of death.
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I am Curious to know What ALL The GLP's Think.......

What Say You?..............
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Well dingdong, what good is asking for a prescription extension when China makes 80-90% of the raw materials for US pharmaceuticals and they are all in quarantine and not shipping any?

Honestly you must be a total newbie.
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who are you talking to?
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What's the China military doing? Defensive or offensive posture?
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stop panicking.
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who is panicking?
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You're about to really find out what it's like to feel invisible, like a ghost.

You think the masses are suddenly going to wake up and say, "you're right, we're dying"?

Nope. They're going to die quietly and the remaining ones are going to keep on keeping on with denial and adjusting their reality glasses.

Welcome to Cov. It's thankless.
Keep breathing. There's no sense in coming for the show if you're going to die during the opening act.

"The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."

Silencing yourself and living in the dark just means you've left yourself exposed to the type of people who wander the dark looking for victims who won't scream.

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What's the China military doing? Defensive or offensive posture?
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And NK.
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Barely any news about this CoV before the not guilty on impeachment. Now it is being covered by all the news networks. They are either bored with nothing else to talk about or it is being pushed to caused panic
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What's the China military doing? Defensive or offensive posture?
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Hard to tell, the Great Firewall of China makes getting inside information very difficult.
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case fatality rate-CFR

Early on they kept saying they couldn't really get a right answer because not enough people were thru the event either recovered or dead. Now we have enough to get a good answer. Why are they still counting it at 2%?

7720 recovered
1523 dead
________________

9243

1523 divided by 9243 is 16%

Wouldn't the CFR be 16% then?

What am I missing? Am I doing something wrong?
 Quoting: Ricky Retardo



That or you can take the number of infected from roughly two weeks ago and calculate it by the number of dead today to see who is (or isn't) still surviving after two weeks.

Either way, you're going to get a number a hell of a lot higher than 2%.
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man, I want to act like I am a reporter and call into the WHO press conference. Why isn't anyone asking this?
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This was updated around 2 minutes ago now:

[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]

CDC is stating 42 states with cases under investigation now.

Not sure if the above is new information or if the updated something else on the page.
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Well dingdong, what good is asking for a prescription extension when China makes 80-90% of the raw materials for US pharmaceuticals and they are all in quarantine and not shipping any?

Honestly you must be a total newbie.
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who are you talking to?
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