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New case announced in Vancouver.

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“We are very careful about the information that we give out.”

So careful that they wont say where. The Interior is a huge region.
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That's what she said!

NAILED-it9
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The person drove from Van so what stops did they make along the way? Did they go grocery shopping because they were away? I mean, we don't know how many stops or people they infected on the journey into the Interior and it passes through Kelowna BC from Van so... lots of Chinese in Kelowna I suspect there.
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Hey bit late response but check it. I worked in Hope for 3 months and realized that town is the only real pit stop between Chilliwack and Princeton. The most popular stop is Chevron for gasing up, eating you name it. its packed 24/7. Any Canadian GLPer see anything suspicious trucks rolling through Hwy 3 please let us know. That could mean Canadian authorities have the same lead.
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3000 pages of DOOM!
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Yet no one in North America is DROPPING!

this is petty till then!
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I think they are hiding the cases in North America.
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Deaths here have been wrote up as Pneumonia and Flu for months....

Cases that are something else!

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Meanwhile, Peapod is shutting down in the Midwest.
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case fatality rate-CFR

Early on they kept saying they couldn't really get a right answer because not enough people were thru the event either recovered or dead. Now we have enough to get a good answer. Why are they still counting it at 2%?

7720 recovered
1523 dead
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9243

1523 divided by 9243 is 16%

Wouldn't the CFR be 16% then?

What am I missing? Am I doing something wrong?
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88k !!!! people die in china per flu season from flu. forget that its only 15k fatalities. it is millions dead by now.
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How bad does it have to be when they burn the buildings rather than bring out the dead?

Its as bad, as bad can be.
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This is an insanely obvious truth. But people are attached to "normalcy bias". China died economically, they will never rise again. Never. Even if the virus was fake, everyone there would die of hunger as a result of economic chaos.

The government of China is the same as the government of any industrial country, they do everything to maintain normality, money commands, stock exchanges are the priority, they will lie until it is no longer possible.

In your country it is happening the same, you are only 20 or 30 days behind.

Wake up people, this pandemic is real.
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The feds are big on protocols for the DoD and for every aspect of government and every industry that is an aspect of the Us economy that deals with national security issues. And so if you understand the protocols and what issues theybfret about like pandemics, then they have contingency plans. These are in various reports which are read by Congress and others like Infragard.

That is how they know what to do, and how smart citizen-patriots know what they plan to do when there are national emergencies, or in this case a global emergency that is a medical threat, a supply chain threat, a global security threat as China would wig out with nukes, etc.

Not to mention 330 million starving citizens who can't get their medicines and are suddenly unemployed.
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Been looking at this thread for a few weeks.

Anyone studied the typical symptoms/disease progression?

I am wondering if this new disease is already making the rounds in AU. I am (very) fit, and never get sick (like 2 years since last sickness (!)), and managed to catch some weird cold with extreme bronchitis 2 weeks ago. Doesn't feel like the flu, feels like a really bad cold with really weird severe stretched out respiratory symptoms. Difficulty breathing too :~ .

Been coughing violently non-stop last week for a few days, then it got better but still kind of crummy :~

It's summer here with 40C days, and flu season should be about 6 months from now.

Going to the GP (doctor) is useless, as all they do is prescribe antibiotics for a runny nose. They don't take things seriously around here.

P.S. I am not Asian.

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Been looking at this thread for a few weeks.

Anyone studied the typical symptoms/disease progression?

I am wondering if this new disease is already making the rounds in AU. I am (very) fit, and never get sick (like 2 years since last sickness (!)), and managed to catch some weird cold with extreme bronchitis 2 weeks ago. Doesn't feel like the flu, feels like a really bad cold with really weird severe stretched out respiratory symptoms. Difficulty breathing too :~ .

Been coughing violently non-stop last week for a few days, then it got better but still kind of crummy :~

It's summer here with 40C days, and flu season should be about 6 months from now.

Going to the GP (doctor) is useless, as all they do is prescribe antibiotics for a runny nose. They don't take things seriously around here.

P.S. I am not Asian.

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Ya got the wuwu flu
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how much longer till UPS FedEX shut down?
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When the crews get sick....
Or until the first OSHA lawsuit over getting sick on the job.
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stop panicking.
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ahhh
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The US is so pc
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Ya...Trying to Move from This Spectic State!!!
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Too late. Sorry to be blunt, but there it is....

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The US is so pc
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Democrats...ALL CA Are Democrats... They Will give the ALL CLEAR
THEY ARE WHITE PEOPLE They Realize.... That the Majority of the The Population that are succumbed to The CV are of ASIAN decent
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A reminder: this thread is filled with useful information: Thread: What Can You Do To Prepare For This New Virus Outbreak?
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Another one
[link to www.avianflutalk.com]

Some useful ideas for home care

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And another for home care

[link to drgcwoodson.com]

I’ve had this one onhand for years
[link to www.scoutsv.org]

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The feds are big on protocols for the DoD and for every aspect of government and every industry that is an aspect of the Us economy that deals with national security issues. And so if you understand the protocols and what issues theybfret about like pandemics, then they have contingency plans. These are in various reports which are read by Congress and others like Infragard.

That is how they know what to do, and how smart citizen-patriots know what they plan to do when there are national emergencies, or in this case a global emergency that is a medical threat, a supply chain threat, a global security threat as China would wig out with nukes, etc.

Not to mention 330 million starving citizens who can't get their medicines and are suddenly unemployed.
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100% agree. They tell us what they are going to do, we just have to read it to find out. But sifting thru that shit is brutal.
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Been looking at this thread for a few weeks.

Anyone studied the typical symptoms/disease progression?

I am wondering if this new disease is already making the rounds in AU. I am (very) fit, and never get sick (like 2 years since last sickness (!)), and managed to catch some weird cold with extreme bronchitis 2 weeks ago. Doesn't feel like the flu, feels like a really bad cold with really weird severe stretched out respiratory symptoms. Difficulty breathing too :~ .

Been coughing violently non-stop last week for a few days, then it got better but still kind of crummy :~

It's summer here with 40C days, and flu season should be about 6 months from now.

Going to the GP (doctor) is useless, as all they do is prescribe antibiotics for a runny nose. They don't take things seriously around here.

P.S. I am not Asian.

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I hope you get better soon. If you don't get fully better you might need to see a dr. Doubt it is the covid but you could have bronchitis and need antibiotics
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We talked about the severity of reinfection for weeks before anyone else but finally its coming to light for mainstream audiences. We need toextend those stupid short quarantines and dont let recovering patients leave home for months. Almost guaranteed that you will die if you dont stay put.
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For the CFR - I'm assuming that there are plenty more cases outside of the pneumonia cases, which seems to be what the Chinese are (supposedly) counting, although everyday it seems to be a different case definition depending on WHO's defining them.

I'm curious as to what everyone thinks about the Peruvian who died on Jan 17th in LA. I.E. No seeding? Nobody else made it here well before the lockdown / flight restrictions? Etc....

I'm guessing that was an initial seeding case (along with others) and we're going to see Cali (perhaps a few other large Asian pop. cities) start to explode within a much quicker time frame then people expect.
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See now the lack of drinkable water in China worries me as they have something like 450+ million under "wartime status" which allegedly is higher than martial law. So the most critical resource is water as in 72 hours you get citizens perishing from dehydration.

The issue in America is our water utilities have 12-14 days of chlorine. After that, the potability and safety of the water declines. And in some cases, you would have water bourne pathogens.

So how bad is the chlorine situation in China that this is already occurring? See one epidemiolgist was saying that Covid-19 could spread by piping.

One would expect military transports of chlorine to ensure the integrity of the water supply as being of paramount importance.
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Wife comes home and says let's go out to eat. I said are you crazy? Everyone is sick! (And I'm perusing GLP for credible doom so no time but didn't tell her that of course). She says it's not that bad, you're getting paranoid, I already told Lisa and Scott yes so we're going. I said aren't THEY sick? I'm not going and bringing that home here to our daughters who just got over something bad and you did too. She says You're such a jerk!

Today, I'm a jerk.

Tomorrow, I'm the hero when everyone is sick with the Coronavirus.

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Tomorrow, none of them will remember that we tried to warn them, just like the ‘nothingburgers’ and ‘just the flu’ folks will claim they never said such things.

PS: I’ve been a ‘jerk’ for two weeks now. I feel ya.
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My hubby is "tired of hearing about it." and keeps thinking about baseball. I just keep thinking, wait till it hits hard here, it's all that will be on TV.
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You guys see this?

The eyes of darkness.


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For the CFR - I'm assuming that there are plenty more cases outside of the pneumonia cases, which seems to be what the Chinese are (supposedly) counting, although everyday it seems to be a different case definition depending on WHO's defining them.

I'm curious as to what everyone thinks about the Peruvian who died on Jan 17th in LA. I.E. No seeding? Nobody else made it here well before the lockdown / flight restrictions? Etc....

I'm guessing that was an initial seeding case (along with others) and we're going to see Cali (perhaps a few other large Asian pop. cities) start to explode within a much quicker time frame then people expect.
 Quoting: conspiratio maxima


Personally, the Peruvian is of prime importance to the timeline. The Feds have more data no doubt about a lot more patients, but that one case sticks out like a sore thumb and I want more details. Doubt we'll get any though.
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Okay... We are declaring an emergency, but there's no real emergency.

Yeah, right.
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You guys see this?

The eyes of darkness.


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Ya I was talking with a guy who owns the book. Ima pick up a copy myself.
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Coronavirus outbreak causing disaster prep stores to run out of supplies

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"MARIETTA, Ga. — Inside TruPrep, a Marietta-based emergency preparedness store, people can shop for supplies for worse case scenarios. But the shelves that were once full are now emptying quickly because of the coronavirus.

“We just got two pallets in,” said co-owner Joey Smith as he points to a picked over food shelf. “Can’t even get it out on the shelves fast enough.”

Water filtration, first-aid and food are the top three items new TruPrep customers seek. The only mask left in the store sits on a dummy, showcasing other gear people might want.

“About three weeks ago, I would say we had about 800 of those p-100, n-100 masks. We are completely sold out of them now,” said Smith.

Keeping items in stock is not the only issue. Any manufacturers are having a hard time keeping up with demand. And with a growing need for supplies in other countries, the United States is not the highest priority...."


"And with a growing need for supplies in other countries, the United States is not the highest priority"
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The US is so pc
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I hope twitter does not ban me for this one...

"Don't forget to hug and kiss asymptomatic Chinese nationals on your flights, Ships cruises and various tourist traps, that is if they will lower their surgical masks for you" [link to twitter.com (secure)]
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Ever see the film, Jarhead? One of the military aspects that comes up is dehydration and the effect it has on performance of soldiers. You see if you look this up, the Israelis did big time studies on dehydration.

So besides all the medical studies, governments know they have to keep their citizens hydrated or severe effects occur on performance.

In soldiers it's very pronounced as they are extremely active.

In citizens, since the thirst response is not resulting in hydration, the body has difficulty with controling blood pressure. People start passing out when they stand up, they are confused, they have blurry vision, they are largely incompentent, they make poor decisions, etc.

It's a worse case scenario if there are water shortages as that's going to compound medical issues all around plus hygiene.

By the time 48 hours comes around, people get listless and stuporous. It can decline rapidly based on being very young or elderly where they lose consciousness.
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It's Valentines Day, the world is ending, and I'm not fucking tonight. Something's wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78005559


There's still a few weeks until panic sex time. lol
 Quoting: Tangy


If I remember correctly, about 1.5k pages back.

February 14th was when The United Stares would “catch up with where China is at” or something like that. Don’t remember exactly what people were saying. It was thousands of posts ago. Been on this thread since near the start lol. But it seems like each day people keep bringing up “2 weeks until America collapses” or “wait 2 weeks until The US sees people dying”.

But it just isn’t happening. Now I may be proven wrong, and I’ll eat those words while I crap my pants and wish I was right. But I just can’t see how it’s going to be a HUGE deal in anywhere outside of China. Especially when it’s been around for months, with travel all over. Multiple incubation periods burned through. Sick people coming and going. And the only “sick” ones that we have in the US are the ones flown into quarantine.

Of course, they could be lying and there could be thousands of ticking time bombs walking around shedding this COVID-19 soup wherever they go. But I think it’s deeper than that. And I think, outside of Asians, the only thing we will have to worry about is bouncing back from an economic collapse that will rival the Great Depression and the start of WWIII due to this. Because if it in fact does just have this effect on Asians, and Asian men in particular as it has been shown to target more predominantly. It could be interpreted as an “act of war” on China by the US.

I believe this point was brought up earlier. And I believe it is a valid point a lot of people overlook. I think this “virus” is the 9/11 of China. Killing their own people to blame the US into going to war. Only this time, it will be a world at war.

Sorry, back to valentines panic sex now.
 Quoting: Exposethelies


If you worked in a hospital, you would know that there is already a significant and abnormal increase in patients with pneumonia. There is no official diagnosis for covid19, so patients are treated as "pneumonia of non-specific cause", medicated and sent home or to the morgue.

At that time, there are already between 80k and 300k infected in treatments in the USA, but there are no official numbers because there is no official diagnosis.

Your government lies to you. You should know that.





GLP