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I see a clean up, aisle 3 was in order. A couple turds got dropped last night.

Down the bowl they go.
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RooterZ is reporting that:

Global COVID-19 Prevention trial of Hydroxychloroquine to resume

Jeez, is it beyond the wit of science to have a double-blind randomised trial of this well-known anti-viral theraputic WITH ZINC?!!! AND WITH Azithromycin?????

Please, Lord!

ps - search ebay for bromo-quine or cold tablets. They knew a thng or two back in the 1920's, 30's ... MUST be something in it.
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Thailand is covering up because they rely ever so heavily on tourism.
So never expect their numbers to rise above Chinas
Native Thai hate the rude and dirty Chinese
Thai will take their moneys
Lots and lots of middle class Chinese travel to Thailand

I assume a lot of people in Thailand have used the malaria drug

Thanks to the relevant postings. Great to see sone intriguing posts, thread slowed down a bit, enough for the lurkers to chime in. Now it seems evenly distributed reply’s.

Thanks for the polling thread, I still suspect lots of people have it, many Karen’s out there today. Nothing to joke about other people though.

The worst, are the ones suffering mentally but joke about other people suffering. They deserve a slap down, they get angry when u call them out.

Nasty people out in the world. To many judges, one of many reasons for great culling. I have always found the pointers, should point their finger at themselves. We had mental cases before Covid. Recipe for disaster. I do love the hypocrites.
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30 Jun - 05:16:09 PM [RTRS] - FAUCI SAYS NEW COVID-19 CASES COULD HIT 100K PER DAY, CONCERNED IT COULD GET 'VERY BAD' - SENATE HEARING

i hope they wont lock down. if we are lucky and nyc infection rate is only 15% we have a chance to see a 4%+ death rate (basically everywhere) if the healtcare completely breaks down.
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I see a clean up, aisle 3 was in order. A couple turds got dropped last night.

Down the bowl they go.
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Unflushables.... unfortunately.... they will be back.

You are appreciated. Hugs and prayers.
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The Unflushables. Good movie title. chuckle

Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening GLPeeps! hf
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Um. Does having AIDS protect you from bat AIDS?

I need to look into this further when I have time. Unless someone else wants to jump on and see if there's any validity when it comes to already established AIDS patients and CoV.

" In fact, despite there are many HIV infected patient and COVID 19 outbreak expands to cover a large area in Asia, there are few observations on infection among HIV infected patients. In our setting, Thailand, where the COVID 19 disease occurred after China, there is no case of infection among HIV infected patients despite there is an extremely high prevalence of HIV infection in this area."

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AIDS doesn't protect you; taking the cocktail of HIV/anti-viral meds is what protects you.

Prophylaxis at work.
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I see a clean up, aisle 3 was in order. A couple turds got dropped last night.

Down the bowl they go.
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Unflushables.... unfortunately.... they will be back.

You are appreciated. Hugs and prayers.
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The Unflushables. Good movie title. chuckle

Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening GLPeeps! hf
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hello!

It’s hazy here, in Mid-Iowa. And lazy to match it.

I am trying to do as I said and not run my cogs through six month scenarios... which is really hard! But I have my list ready for my July order, from Walmart, in a week. And Amazon subscribe and save is set to ship this week.

It’s frustrating not being able to shop local or go to the farmers market, this year. However, all I have to do is imagine my normal pneumonia times 10 and that’s enough to shift my thinking back to I appreciate my ability to stay home.

Need more snacks.

And Owl.... the immunity discussion is concerning. This isn’t like influenza... they are soooooo confusing the general public.
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RooterZ is reporting that:

Global COVID-19 Prevention trial of Hydroxychloroquine to resume

Jeez, is it beyond the wit of science to have a double-blind randomised trial of this well-known anti-viral theraputic WITH ZINC?!!! AND WITH Azithromycin?????

Please, Lord!

ps - search ebay for bromo-quine or cold tablets. They knew a thng or two back in the 1920's, 30's ... MUST be something in it.
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The Chinese Spanish flu did not have gain of function....

So while these therapies might help.... they will end up being recurring things until we run out. Or the virus goes full fuck your therapies and your brain.
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New swine flu found in pigs in China has ‘pandemic potential’ and it could infect humans

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A NEW strain of swine flu found in pigs in China has the potential to spread to humans and unleash another pandemic, researchers have warned.

It is feared the bug could mutate and spread easily from pigs to people, spreading through the human population, triggering a global outbreak like Covid-19.


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Experts from the Chinese Academy of Sciences say pigs are a "key intermediate host" or "mixing vessel" for viruses which could spread from wild animals into humans.

They are concerned about the latest strain, G4 EA H1N1, because it has "all the hallmarks" of being highly adapted to infect humans.

The researchers said there was some evidence suggesting it could already have infected people who worked in abattoirs and the swine industry in China.The scientists said: "All of this evidence indicates that G4 EA H1N1 virus is a growing problem in pig farms, and the widespread circulation of G4 viruses in pigs inevitably increases their exposure to humans."

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The worst, are the ones suffering mentally but joke about other people suffering. They deserve a slap down, they get angry when u call them out.

Nasty people out in the world. To many judges, one of many reasons for great culling. I have always found the pointers, should point their finger at themselves. We had mental cases before Covid. Recipe for disaster. I do love the hypocrites.
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Sweetie....

If you are going to take pot shots, I am going to bring the full DSM at you. Why? Because you are a passive aggressive twatwaffle.

Your attempts at invoking anger are lame and extremely pathetic. But I do love a good spar with an internet troll that thinks they have a chance in hell of getting me to “go off the rails”.

What? That’s all you got... say that I have a mental illness because I don’t put up with trolls or assholes. Or wait, say that I have no life because I am here so often.... which brings me back to....

You have no friends or real connections. And that is heartbreaking. If this weren’t a social distancing time, I would suggest you go to a library event ... here we have game nights and book clubs.

We even have book clubs at bars, in Iowa.... but once this disaster passes, you should try making some deeper connections. They will help you not be so mad at the things that you....

CAN’T FUCKING CONTROL !

:)

Carry on.....
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Had a chat with our local health official mostly from the viewpoint of gossip, learned that they opened up for everyone who wants it to be tested for the virus and its antibodies for free at our hospital. Pondering to get that antibody test. Would be nice to see if I got some immunity to this plague. I bet our official numbers wills tart growing from tomorrow. Just watch and see :)
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Treatment with the first corona drug remdesivir will cost $ 2,340


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A five-day treatment with the drug remdesivir will cost $ 2,340 (about $ 2,076). The CEO of Gilead, the producer of the drug, reports this in an open letter. The drug used to treat Covid-19 will be available in the U.S. from July.

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When it will be available in Europe, and how much it will cost us, is still unknown.

There was a lot of discussion about how much the drug would cost, after the US health authorities gave permission to use remdesivir in May. Clinical tests indicate that the drug improves survival for corona patients who need to be ventilated. Until now, Gilead had donated doses of the drug to the U.S. government, but it will be commercialized from July.

Normally Gilead takes into account the added value that a medicine has for society to determine the price. But to make the drug widely accessible, the company says it has chosen to charge a lot less than $ 12,000 - which the drug would normally cost - according to CEO Daniel O'Day.

6 ampules or 2,080 euros or 2,340 $

The price for governments - that is, for people insured through government - in developed countries was set at $ 390 (just over 266 euros) per ampoule. Based on current treatment patterns, the majority of patients require five days of treatment using six ampoules of remdesivir. That brings the price of a treatment to $ 2,340 (2,080 euros) per patient.

Source Belgian paper HLN( Dutch )

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BLOOD TEST AT COVID-19 DIAGNOSIS CAN PREDICT DISEASE SEVERITY, STUDY FINDS

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Had a chat with our local health official mostly from the viewpoint of gossip, learned that they opened up for everyone who wants it to be tested for the virus and its antibodies for free at our hospital. Pondering to get that antibody test. Would be nice to see if I got some immunity to this plague. I bet our official numbers wills tart growing from tomorrow. Just watch and see :)
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If and only if you mask and eye protection up.... but the antibody test are still extremely inaccurate.... there at least five papers in here.

Much hope the storms don’t bring too much water.
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Sounds like more than a clue

COVID-19 outbreak at Oswego Co. apple slicing plant linked to outbreak 135 miles away

Many of the employees at Champlain Valley Specialty in the Town of Oswego, where 82 employees tested positive for coronavirus, live in Onondaga and Oneida Counties. Many employees at Keymark also live in Oneida County, revealing a possible clue about how the two clusters 135 miles away are linked.

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You get a covid19. You get a covid19.

You all get a covid19!

Sigh
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Treatment with the first corona drug remdesivir will cost $ 2,340


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A five-day treatment with the drug remdesivir will cost $ 2,340 (about $ 2,076). The CEO of Gilead, the producer of the drug, reports this in an open letter. The drug used to treat Covid-19 will be available in the U.S. from July.

damneddamned

When it will be available in Europe, and how much it will cost us, is still unknown.

There was a lot of discussion about how much the drug would cost, after the US health authorities gave permission to use remdesivir in May. Clinical tests indicate that the drug improves survival for corona patients who need to be ventilated. Until now, Gilead had donated doses of the drug to the U.S. government, but it will be commercialized from July.

Normally Gilead takes into account the added value that a medicine has for society to determine the price. But to make the drug widely accessible, the company says it has chosen to charge a lot less than $ 12,000 - which the drug would normally cost - according to CEO Daniel O'Day.

6 ampules or 2,080 euros or 2,340 $

The price for governments - that is, for people insured through government - in developed countries was set at $ 390 (just over 266 euros) per ampoule. Based on current treatment patterns, the majority of patients require five days of treatment using six ampoules of remdesivir. That brings the price of a treatment to $ 2,340 (2,080 euros) per patient.

Source Belgian paper HLN( Dutch )

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$2,340....for a drug that really only reduces your avg recovery time from ~15 days to 11 or 12. Am I remembering that correctly?
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Sounds like more than a clue

COVID-19 outbreak at Oswego Co. apple slicing plant linked to outbreak 135 miles away

Many of the employees at Champlain Valley Specialty in the Town of Oswego, where 82 employees tested positive for coronavirus, live in Onondaga and Oneida Counties. Many employees at Keymark also live in Oneida County, revealing a possible clue about how the two clusters 135 miles away are linked.

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Logistics....

Truckers. Our weakest link.
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A study found levels of antibodies against COVID-19 were significantly lower in asymptomatic carriers than symptomatic patients in active infection, in 40% of them had no detectable antibodies 8 weeks after recovery, compared w/ 13% of symptomatic patients.

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“Asymptomatics” are simply undetected symptomatics who’s central nervous systems invasion has not been detected yet. IMO.

If the covid is in the CNS it is evading the immune system. The evaded immune system won’t be producing antibodies.
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Covid visual tree of symptoms and likely conclusions..... [link to onlinelibrary.wiley.com (secure)]
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Had a chat with our local health official mostly from the viewpoint of gossip, learned that they opened up for everyone who wants it to be tested for the virus and its antibodies for free at our hospital. Pondering to get that antibody test. Would be nice to see if I got some immunity to this plague. I bet our official numbers wills tart growing from tomorrow. Just watch and see :)
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If and only if you mask and eye protection up.... but the antibody test are still extremely inaccurate.... there at least five papers in here.

Much hope the storms don’t bring too much water.
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Oh, the garden could use a bit of watering, I'll guesstimate 20-30mm will fall with this storm system. Also I got a mask, but I don't have any goggles. That won't be an issue if they do find antibodies, eh? :) Local subway driver told me their work is suspending anyone without antibodies, so he needs to show them some papers on his immunity soon. The subway is an important service for Muscovites.

Sounds like more than a clue

COVID-19 outbreak at Oswego Co. apple slicing plant linked to outbreak 135 miles away

Many of the employees at Champlain Valley Specialty in the Town of Oswego, where 82 employees tested positive for coronavirus, live in Onondaga and Oneida Counties. Many employees at Keymark also live in Oneida County, revealing a possible clue about how the two clusters 135 miles away are linked.

[link to cnycentral.com (secure)]
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Logistics....

Truckers. Our weakest link.
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That's why you're supposed to shuffle cargo by trains :) Less truckers, less chances of an infectino to spread.

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I say truckers ....

But even rail cargo... anything with plastic is a FOMITES nightmare for distribution and production.

:)

So many vectors.

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This just feels sooooo 2020 appropriate....

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New swine flu found in pigs in China has ‘pandemic potential’ and it could infect humans

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A NEW strain of swine flu found in pigs in China has the potential to spread to humans and unleash another pandemic, researchers have warned.

It is feared the bug could mutate and spread easily from pigs to people, spreading through the human population, triggering a global outbreak like Covid-19.


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Experts from the Chinese Academy of Sciences say pigs are a "key intermediate host" or "mixing vessel" for viruses which could spread from wild animals into humans.

They are concerned about the latest strain, G4 EA H1N1, because it has "all the hallmarks" of being highly adapted to infect humans.

The researchers said there was some evidence suggesting it could already have infected people who worked in abattoirs and the swine industry in China.The scientists said: "All of this evidence indicates that G4 EA H1N1 virus is a growing problem in pig farms, and the widespread circulation of G4 viruses in pigs inevitably increases their exposure to humans."

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the timing of this release is interesting. is this what CHINA knew and this is actually CV19? comes right after CHINA started to tell us<whispers r out> that meat can carry the virus. how do we know there is 2 viruses and not 1? ain't like we can see it.
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If anyone has the thread linking toxoplasmosis to covid please post here...
I would like to read it, thanks...
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Found these
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Kind of a complicated read, tbh
But discusses the presence of both in the body

This one is an overview of how nasty toxoplasmosis can be

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I will look some more
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...here is some more info:
Clues to an interaction between Covid and Toxoplasma?

Over the cause of time since we got to know Covid, several clues to some sort of interaction with Toxoplasma infection has surfaced, these are:

1. The basic Covid symptoms are almost identical to those of acute toxoplasmosis.

2. The serious Covid symptoms the same as those with serious acute toxoplasmosis, including respiratory failure, heart failure, seizures, and CNS related symptoms.

3. Covid doesn’t seem to have serious effects on children, teens, and young adults. Toxoplasma infection rates follow our age, i.e the older you are, the higher the probability for Toxoplasma infection. Some 30-50% of the 50-year-olds are infected.

Acute Toxoplasmosis displays symptoms such as:

* Fever
* Headache
* Dry cough
* Shortness of breath
* Fatigue
* Seizures
* Lung problems that may resemble tuberculosis or pneumonia
* Cardiac arrest

….which is virtually identical to Covid.

This conjecture suggests that someone “out there” starts looking into if there is a causal correlation. I will for my part keep working on the data as it surfaces and will post updates along the way.
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 Quoting: Comperio


Thank you!
Why I asked UD when he returned about toxoplasmosis
He didn’t answer me

Guys,
Like TC owl pointed out recently
This is novel...new
Truth is, it’s all a great unknown
Don’t have time to look right now, but I remember seeing on this thread early on to not take zinc it made it worse and now zinc Is considered like essential ...like much of this first it’s bad, then it’s good
Masks are bad, no good, now bad...somewhere in between?
Prions are an issue, then not, oops they are, etc. etc..

So let’s please try to keep discourse polite...Larry D has a great turn of phrase in troll responses as TC the owl
I love Wordsie and UD and Millenniumjackal and Deplorable Recollector
And Duchy20 and all the others
Especially CC who is our de facto mod when LJS is busy
You all have been lifesavers and helped me keep my sanity in my decisions to survive this so far

Another nearly sleepless night
In need of those virtual hugs this morning
Too much to post right now Per se and I keep forgetting these posts are not just being seen by our little ragtag band of covid troopers but are more or less public so I am being a bit cautious this morning (maybe it’s just paranoia from lack of sleep) nonetheless I am saying
Jesus take the wheel
I have so much on the old kitty feeding mat
I need a miracle I need to move to a better place
I will say this I have not 1 but 24 smart meters next to my unit
Maybe that’s a good thing or not, idk
So wondering how those and 5g and the starlink affect this virus
I still think there is nano tech at work here we just don’t recognize it
Also need to move someone in my building was exposed I found out the other day.,,at least I don’t have to use the elevator....

This will likely be ignored like most of my comments and that’s fine idgaf

I really don’t care either way I will continue to post when I can until I cannot anymore and maybe I will be missed, maybe not, I enjoy the posts and people here and it’s sharing Doom with you all the past six months has made it less doomy and kept us prepared

Here’s to surviving the next six months and especially fall And winter
So yeah, gotta go back to treading water too tired to swim right now

Peace, y’all, please play nice today and keep sharing info...
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Well said, Bastecat, well said.
"Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan

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HIV/AIDS patients are routinely treated with anti-Toxoplasma treatments, so the infection rate is low...which is mirrored in Covid incidents among same group
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The head of Russia’s Anti-Terrorism Center has warned that terrorists are intentionally trying to spread #COVID19,

using it as a form of bio-weapon.

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EU counter-terrorism coordinator G. Kerchove, recently noted that terrorists are planning to use the pandemic to cause upheaval.


[link to twitter.com (secure)]

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didn't Gates say , the next thing will be a bio attack after this pandemic ???

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The head of Russia’s Anti-Terrorism Center has warned that terrorists are intentionally trying to spread #COVID19,

using it as a form of bio-weapon.

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EU counter-terrorism coordinator G. Kerchove, recently noted that terrorists are planning to use the pandemic to cause upheaval.


[link to twitter.com (secure)]

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didn't Gates say , the next thing will be a bio attack after this pandemic ???
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Do they know something ... ?

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30 Jun - 04:26:02 PM [RTRS] - NEW YORK GOVERNOR ORDERS PEOPLE ARRIVING FROM EIGHT ADDITIONAL STATES TO QUARANTINE FOR 14 DAYS AMID CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC

nobody wants to go there to get killed anyway.
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Smart. Trying to limit access of the southern/southwestern variety of covid with the extra s-spikes.
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30 Jun - 03:39:02 PM [RTRS] - NO GUARANTEE U.S. WILL HAVE A SAFE AND EFFECITVE VACCINE FOR COVID-19 - FAUCI AT SENATE HEARING
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But someone will try to sell us on unsafe infective ones, guaranteed.





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