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Covid19sars2.0 User ID: 68708110 03/05/2020 05:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 ironically, Iran seems to be the only country telling the truth about the virus Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77139646 Italy seems to be doing a good job so far I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch. But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling. We all love green, thanks in advance :) So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking. We all love green. Thanks in advance :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77621519 Switzerland 03/05/2020 05:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 [link to twitter.com (secure)] One Hospital in Iran, submerged by the sick or wanting to be tested patients.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78568645 United Kingdom 03/05/2020 05:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 The one thing that is really playing on my mind is, when do we say fuck it, and bunker down. My boss is so misinformed on this, it's like talking to a wall...I dont want to put my family in danger...but fuck, I still have a mortgage and Bill's to pay |
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The Gent User ID: 77726184 United Kingdom 03/05/2020 05:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 The one thing that is really playing on my mind is, when do we say fuck it, and bunker down. My boss is so misinformed on this, it's like talking to a wall...I dont want to put my family in danger...but fuck, I still have a mortgage and Bill's to pay Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78568645 Very true and the Government is only offering SSP for anyone off sick etc. I broke my ankle once, did not have sick pay to last me the six weeks out of work, I had a large mortgage etc as well, so I took out a small loan from my bank to cover the time off, maybe have a look at that way of funding if you are able too. Just an idea.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77635199 United States 03/05/2020 05:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 Empty stores, quarantined firefighters: Washington city at coronavirus epicenter reels as death toll rises [link to www.latimes.com (secure)] |
Dangerous Times (OP) User ID: 78312115 03/05/2020 05:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 Map of infected in our Little Belgium The RED DOTS [link to twitter.com (secure)] Last Edited by Dangerous Times on 03/05/2020 05:37 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76956264 United States 03/05/2020 05:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 That part of this saga is truly troublesome. The leaked information out of China has been confirmed back when the doctors said reinfected patients were showing up and dying later due to heart problems from antivirals. That shit needs to be studied. 14% have returned infected yet they say they can't infect anyone and they aren't sure what to make of it. Then we hear of the lady whose husband was fine and dandy for two weeks, released on a negative test twice and dies two days after returning home. A virus won't act the same in everybody as iris a random act each time but to find out what percentage will relapse and suffer needs to be known fast. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77621519 Switzerland 03/05/2020 05:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 27 new cases in Belgium [link to www.lalibre.be (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71909450 Netherlands 03/05/2020 05:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 News …from Japan, Taiwan and China attribute the origin of the Coronavirus to the USA. An alarm bell should be ringing in our mind. The following news is indeed becoming widespread in all of East Asia China included. It is becoming the hottest topic on Chinese social media... In this video Taiwan Virologist argues that the Coronavirus Originated in the US. [link to f.video.weibocdn.com] This Taiwan virologist and pharmacologist explains on Taiwanese TV that the geographical location with the greatest diversity of virus strains must be the original source because a single strain cannot emerge from nothing. He demonstrated that only the US has all the five known strains of the virus (while Wuhan and most of China have only one, as do Taiwan and South Korea, Thailand and Vietnam, Singapore, and England, Belgium and Germany), constituting a thesis that the haplotypes in other nations may have originated in the US. This Virologist further states that the US has recently had more than 200 “pulmonary fibrosis” cases that resulted in death due to patients’ inability to breathe, but whose conditions and symptoms could not be explained by pulmonary fibrosis. He says that he wrote articles informing the US health authorities to consider seriously those deaths as resulting from the coronavirus, but they responded by blaming the deaths on e-cigarettes, then silenced further discussion. … He also states the case of September of 2019 when some Japanese traveled to Hawaii and returned home infected, people who had never been to China. This was two months prior to the infections in China and just after the CDC suddenly and totally shut down the Fort Detrick bio-weapons lab claiming the facilities were insufficient to prevent loss of pathogens In China itself " medical authorities – and “intelligence agencies” – conducted a rapid and wide-ranging search for the origin of the virus, collecting nearly 100 samples of the genome from 12 different countries on 4 continents, identifying all the varieties and mutations. During this research, they determined the virus outbreak had begun much earlier, probably in November, shortly after the Wuhan Military Games. They then came to the same independent conclusions as the Japanese researchers – that the virus did not begin in China but was introduced there from the outside. " writes Larry Romanoff in Global Research. References : [link to en.people.cn] [link to m.weibo.cn (secure)] [link to en.people.cn] [link to www.fredericknewspost.com (secure)] [link to www.globalresearch.ca (secure)] |
Concorde Warrior F-BVFA User ID: 78429612 France 03/05/2020 05:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 ironically, Iran seems to be the only country telling the truth about the virus Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77139646 They truly are. Thank you Leader. Thank you Rouhani. Doing a good job informing others on their WuFlu situation The same will await us later. I came. I saw. I Concorde. For once you have tasted Concorde you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. "I would say today we can integrate all religions and races EXCEPT ISLAM." Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Y ew |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77660258 United States 03/05/2020 05:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78381841 United Kingdom 03/05/2020 05:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 I personally want to see follow ups soon to those mild cases who recovered to see if the virus is still there. Whatever the medical term is I don't know. I'm shocked they aren't following up with these people after the stories coming out of so many reinfected patients. Seems that would be a high priority event to do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76956264 That part of this saga is truly troublesome. The leaked information out of China has been confirmed back when the doctors said reinfected patients were showing up and dying later due to heart problems from antivirals. That shit needs to be studied. 14% have returned infected yet they say they can't infect anyone and they aren't sure what to make of it. Then we hear of the lady whose husband was fine and dandy for two weeks, released on a negative test twice and dies two days after returning home. A virus won't act the same in everybody as iris a random act each time but to find out what percentage will relapse and suffer needs to be known fast. Would be a scoop for journalists to interview a recovered, serious patient. They could do the usual disguise to protect that person's identity. I'm baffled as to why they have not interviewed a single 'survivor' |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71909450 Netherlands 03/05/2020 05:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 Turkey to Deploy Special Forces to Greek Border to Prevent Athens Pushing Migrants Back - Minister [link to sputniknews.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77347779 United States 03/05/2020 05:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 #Coronavirus Update: Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~ -- Wave of infections in Germany, France, Spain -- Italy over 3,100 cases, 107 deaths -- Iran reports 92 deaths, free 54,000 prisoners -- S. Korea cases surge to 6,000, 35 deaths -- Death toll in China exceeds 3,000, fatality rate 3.74% [link to twitter.com (secure)] Korea has 40 deaths. South China News reports from south Korea CDC. 40 deaths and 88 recovered. A real death rate of 31% as the other cases aren't resolved. How people can't understand this is one of the strangest aspects of this whole thing. Agreed. And that scary number will just get worse with time, since those "recovered" cases are really just "recovered for now" cases. Also think we should rename "recovered" as "recovered for now" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78568645 United Kingdom 03/05/2020 05:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 If this is the beginning of the end, I dont know if I would want to go quick, or try and stick around watching this pan out. I'm talking in terms of there being no hope...Would our minds be ready to see the dark days ahead ? Scary thought... |
Wurzel User ID: 78371589 United Kingdom 03/05/2020 05:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 Those hospitals don't have negative pressure rooms and the necessary equipment to provide critically ill patients ventilators and incubation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76956264 America has more hospitals than Britain and I can tell you emphatically and I promise if it ever gets bad in certain spots in America the death rate will soar like am eagle. Shitty hospitals with short supply if doctors and nurses. I imagine hospital that is so bad people purposely tell ambulance services to steer clear. Or if they are sick they don't go to their hospital here in town. Dreams of grandeur. Death rate doesn't exist in a vacuum. Too many variables and once a system is overran it becomes chaos Firstly, you don’t need “negative pressure rooms” for isolation. You’ve been on GLP too long. It’s a hospital not a bioweapon lab. Secondly, you actually don’t have more beds per capita. Remember there are many private hospitals in the UK out with the NHS The doctors in Wuhan have been saying that you really *do* need negative pressure rooms, unless you don't care about it spreading to other wards. So yes, they've been using them - it's part of the 'specialist infectious disease ward' label. Morning, all! Just catching up on... well, Doom, by the looks of it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78563617 Portugal 03/05/2020 05:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 @disclosetv Alleged footage of a hospital submerged with #COVID19 patients in Iran. [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78239074 Canada 03/05/2020 05:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 ironically, Iran seems to be the only country telling the truth about the virus Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77139646 They truly are. Thank you Leader. Thank you Rouhani. Doing a good job informing others on their WuFlu situation The same will await us later. They want everything recorded correctly for their upcoming case at the War Crimes tribunal. Maybe we should send them a couple pallets of $100 bills so they will start lying like the rest of the scumbags. Can't have the truth start leaking out now, can we? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78128618 United States 03/05/2020 05:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 From a recent (preprint) paper, some useful information: Quoting: Jalayaja The chances of infection depend on viral source, viral concentration, viral activity level, manner or routes of infections, times of exposures, duration of exposure, health condition, post-exposure remedial measures, post-infection mitigating measures, innate immunity, immune system response, etc. 1. Preventive measures should be consider to increase personal ability to resist COVID-19 infection. The best strategies are strengthening the innate immunity, blood micro-circulation in the lungs, and immune surveillance function. Due to the phase lag between the lung infection and the immune response, maintaining strong innate immunity is the most important. Since immune cells migrate into lung tissues by squeezing themselves, improving lung micro-vascular networks is the most important measure to mitigate damages to the lungs. A large number of things can be used to increase the density of capillaries, reduce the fat coats in capillaries, increase elasticity of capillaries, increase the space for accommodating blood vessel expansion, and reduce blood viscosity. Those measures should be taken before an infection. 2. Avoid exposure to low temperatures, avoid excessive fatigues, and avoid exposure to cold and humid environment in an outbreak season. If exposure to virus is suspected, avoid exposure to temperature until the infection is resolved or no infection has taken place in reasonable days. 3. Reduce inhalation of viral particles and wash hands frequently. Breathing viral-containing air only one time is better than breathing 100 times. Exposure to an infectious environment for many days is worse than exposure for one day. Shortening time of exposure if exposure is unavoidable, and strictly reduce the total number of inhaled viral parties to the minimum for a time period. 4. The manners of initial infection and repeating infections are vitally important. One cannot avoid viruses in a city where a large number of people have been infected. Risk of infections cannot be evaluated according to the yesor- no rule. Do not think that every infection is same. An important strategy is avoiding exposure to a massive viral particles in a short time. People should learn avoiding direct exposure to air containing fresh droplets and airborne particles, avoid breathing air from the vicinity of infected patients, and shortening exposure duration. 5. A large number of factors could be used in several days before exposure to several days after exposure, during treatment, during recovery, and even after recovery. General guidance can be developed for reducing direct lung damages in all kinds of lung infections, and detailed guidance can be tailored for this virus when more knowledge about the virus is known. 6. In an outbreak reason, reduce time in public places, avoid getting too closer to strangers, walk away from air flow or wind containing coughed droplets and avoid getting close to strangers who are talking. Withhold breath for seconds to avoid coughed air and resume breathing after walking a few steps away from the coughing area. 7. Stores, schools, and hospitals should take measures to reduce human density or improve air ventilation. Ventilation condition is especially important in areas where customers stand in line. If fresh air cannot be provided, a ventilation system should be used to filter out viral particles from the air. A reduction of viral concentration and removal of large particles from the air can make differences even though their benefits are not be reflected in disease incidence rates. 8. Airborne particles differ greatly in infection power and infection scale. Fresh droplets from the lungs of persons under infection are the most risky sources; droplets from the mouth of an infected person is the second; air exhaled from an infected person may contain a small number of viral particles; viruses in in particles lose infectious power with time and the decay of viral activity shapely depends on temperature. The risk level of dusts generated from things that have been used by infected persons would depend on how viral particles are diluted. We recommend use of ballpark dilution factor: the fresh viral discharge from an infected person as a reference concentration, and dilution by at least 1,000 times to a million times can make differences. Double dilution by a million time each can make viral source safer for health people. 9. Per the classical model, a low viral concentration and a long exposure time would achieve a similar level of infection. However, under this two phase infection model, extended duration of the infection has an effect of postponing some individual infection actions to later times. The delays cause some viral reproduction activities to take place after the immune system has been scaled up. Later infections are less harmful. Therefore, disease severity cannot be accurately predicted by simple product rule. 10. Lung infection and non-lung infection may be caused by two independent exposures. Their relative timings and routes are important. If a patient gets a lung infection first and later gets an eye infection from other source, the eye infection does not mitigate the lung infection. If the eye infection takes place a few days before the lungs infection, the eye infection may work to shorten the phase lag between lung viral development and the immune response. If the eye infection is caused by a lung infection, the eye infection only add a burden to the immune system. If a person is expected to expose the lungs to high concentration of virus inevitably, a possible strategy is infecting the digestive track so that the immune system can protect the lungs. [link to www.preprints.org (secure)] Thanks. That's useful info. Note it referenced Temperature as a factor for transmission 3 times: (1) Avoid exposure to low temperatures (2) avoid exposure to cold and humid environment (3) the decay of viral activity shapely depends on temperature. That's consistent with the paper published in China that seemed to say transmission peaked at @ 48F and dropped off as T rose above that. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2846144 United States 03/05/2020 05:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 I personally want to see follow ups soon to those mild cases who recovered to see if the virus is still there. Whatever the medical term is I don't know. I'm shocked they aren't following up with these people after the stories coming out of so many reinfected patients. Seems that would be a high priority event to do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76956264 That part of this saga is truly troublesome. The leaked information out of China has been confirmed back when the doctors said reinfected patients were showing up and dying later due to heart problems from antivirals. That shit needs to be studied. 14% have returned infected yet they say they can't infect anyone and they aren't sure what to make of it. Then we hear of the lady whose husband was fine and dandy for two weeks, released on a negative test twice and dies two days after returning home. A virus won't act the same in everybody as iris a random act each time but to find out what percentage will relapse and suffer needs to be known fast. Would be a scoop for journalists to interview a recovered, serious patient. They could do the usual disguise to protect that person's identity. I'm baffled as to why they have not interviewed a single 'survivor' I wonder if the escaping story was a lie and indeed this virus. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2846144 United States 03/05/2020 05:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 I personally want to see follow ups soon to those mild cases who recovered to see if the virus is still there. Whatever the medical term is I don't know. I'm shocked they aren't following up with these people after the stories coming out of so many reinfected patients. Seems that would be a high priority event to do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76956264 That part of this saga is truly troublesome. The leaked information out of China has been confirmed back when the doctors said reinfected patients were showing up and dying later due to heart problems from antivirals. That shit needs to be studied. 14% have returned infected yet they say they can't infect anyone and they aren't sure what to make of it. Then we hear of the lady whose husband was fine and dandy for two weeks, released on a negative test twice and dies two days after returning home. A virus won't act the same in everybody as iris a random act each time but to find out what percentage will relapse and suffer needs to be known fast. Would be a scoop for journalists to interview a recovered, serious patient. They could do the usual disguise to protect that person's identity. I'm baffled as to why they have not interviewed a single 'survivor' I wonder if the escaping story was a lie and indeed this virus. Evaping |
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Wurzel User ID: 78371589 United Kingdom 03/05/2020 05:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 #Coronavirus Update: Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~ -- Wave of infections in Germany, France, Spain -- Italy over 3,100 cases, 107 deaths -- Iran reports 92 deaths, free 54,000 prisoners -- S. Korea cases surge to 6,000, 35 deaths -- Death toll in China exceeds 3,000, fatality rate 3.74% [link to twitter.com (secure)] Korea has 40 deaths. South China News reports from south Korea CDC. 40 deaths and 88 recovered. A real death rate of 31% as the other cases aren't resolved. How people can't understand this is one of the strangest aspects of this whole thing. Agreed. And that scary number will just get worse with time, since those "recovered" cases are really just "recovered for now" cases. Also think we should rename "recovered" as "recovered for now" Agreed. I still maintain that it's likely that a lot of the 'droppers' are a result of relapse or secondary infection, which is why they only appear once a country has a well-established infection. Note: that's a hunch, rather than scientifically supported facts. Regardless, we *know* that many 'cured' eventually relapse or reacquire the virus, so yes, in the long term this estimated CFR may go up. It actually depends on the trajectory of containment, though: China managed to reduce the CFR from the peak (yes, even allowing for the dodgy number; I know, but this makes sense!) by containing it enough that hospital beds were freed up and more of the severe patients could be kept alive. Now, if Italy, say, doesn't achieve the same... then we have a much longer exponential phase with insufficient care, and the CFR goes through the roof. If they lock everything down, they have a better chance of healing (at least temporarily) a higher proportion of the open cases, and driving the CFR down. Basically, it's in our (governments') hands as to how this goes. |