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That study that said that there’s a 15% drop in mortality for every 1.8 fahrenheit degree increase scares me so much, this fall and winter is going to be a nightmare. Here in nyc i expect the cooling trucks for body storage in massive numbers, we have immunity from t cells and antibodies here in this city overall but the cold will bring severe symptoms once those antibodies expire.
 Quoting: Mike Banning


I remember reading that study, and if I recall correctly they were taking the numbers being reported by nations along the equator as accurate at face value.

The thing is, most countries at the equator are third world shitholes.

India alone probably has more COVID deaths than the US and Europe combined, at least if you were to use US reporting standards. Africa too. Maybe even in Brazil.
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I took Wordsie's time machine for a spin when he wasn't looking.

Just got back from October 2020.

Trump is able to persuade the FDA to approve hydroxychloroquine and launches a massive $2 billion campaign to get enough pills for every American who wants them.

However, the pills turn out to be counterfeit viagra from China.

Hilarity ensues for the next week.

Whatever you do, don't leave your apple pies in the windowsill to cool off.

You don't want to know...

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One time, at band camp?
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Our new cluster came from from a coolstore worker (frozen Imported food)

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Oh man.... this will be comedy gold ....

Someone tried to share the food/packaging issues....outside of this thread.....

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TWO PATIENTS IN CHINA THAT RECOVERED FROM COVID-19 MONTHS AGO TESTED POSITIVE AGAIN, RAISING FEARS OF VIRUS ABILITY TO LINGER AND REAPPEAR IN THE BODY - BBG


Would this mean if true the virus will be apart of us for life forever and the sheep will have to take 2 vaccines a year for the flu and covid 20 21 22 etc...?
 Quoting: Dr.Disrespect 76390446


My question on that is, were they actually reinfected, or did the virus go dormant in their system and then reactivate itself, meaning it is still the original infection they are dealing with?
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


If you believe China's numbers, the odds of two people in a nation of 1.4 billion that only has about 20-30 new cases a day getting re-infected are astronomical.

Now I don't think anyone does, but it seems to me that at the very least China seems to have less COVID prevalence than most of the rest of the world at the moment. So it would still be pretty unlikely.
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I thought they said you lose resistance to it in 3 months time bunch of reports said or do you have to wait for the cdc to say it
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FAUCI: VOTING AT POLLING STATIONS OK IF GUIDELINES OBSERVED


FAUCI SAYS NOT WHERE I WAS HOPING WE WOULD BE WITH THE PANDEMIC
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Answers & Information From Microbiologist Assisting Dr. Fauci:

This information was relayed to me by a family member who I trust implicitly. She takes this pandemic very seriously and would never provide me with false information. For what it's worth, I will personally vouch for her integrity, access to sources, and knowledge on the subject. The microbiologist's answers are in green.

I have a Health Department contact who might have access to a microbiologist who assists Dr. Fauci and she asked me if I had any quick questions for them. I put forth the following:

1: Long-term assessment of problems going into the winter/next year?
The virus is not weakening. If/when a vaccine is available, it will probably be required every six months to a year, with some guessing.

2: Recombination possibilities with bats in the Amazon?
Not discussed

3: Is herd immunity possible before the end of the year, if at all?
Herd immunity will not happen. So let me explain. There are two main types of viruses, DNA viruses and RNA viruses. DNA viruses tend to make carbon copies of themselves and so an immunity, via vaccine or previous infection, is more likely to be permanent. But RNA viruses tend to mutate quickly and even within your own body as it multiplies it is changing itself a bit as it goes, so immunity doesn’t necessarily work against the “new and improved” version of the virus. The big difference is that with antigen mediated immunity (DNA viruses) the body ALWAYS manufactures antigens to a thing - smallpox, polio, and things like that. (I’m staying out of the weeds because it’s complicated and I’ll mess it up if I talk about things that depend.) With cell mediated immunity (RNA viruses), the body can forget that it was a thing.

4: Most important metric to watch new cases, hospitalizations, ICU, or fatalities?
Watch Hospitalizations. Some asymptomatic carriers have been found to be super carriers, and numbers all over the country are unreliable. (Emphasis mine)

5: Percentage of population with natural resistance/immunity?
Not discussed

6: Accuracy of reports of antibodies disappearing after 60-90 days and does exposure to other coronaviruses have any effect on T-cells that might provide protection against CV19?
Not discussed

 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Other information that was included:

Air purifiers are helpful (that's why airplanes are fine, but airports not so much - the filters).

People's reaction to the virus is individual - not a matter of who gave it to you (ie, a person with a mild case can give it to someone who dies).


So there you have it. The three most important things I am taking away from this are:
1: Forget about discussing herd immunity. It's not possible.
2: This winter is going to be very bad because the virus is not getting weaker.
3: We cannot rely on the numbers we are seeing from the states. Whatever numbers we see, it's much, much worse.

This is straight from a high-ranking scientist on the front lines, not a politician. Feel free to do with this information what you want, but I'm not doubting anything she said.

Anyone have any thoughts on all of this?
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Answers & Information From Microbiologist Assisting Dr. Fauci:

This information was relayed to me by a family member who I trust implicitly. She takes this pandemic very seriously and would never provide me with false information. For what it's worth, I will personally vouch for her integrity, access to sources, and knowledge on the subject. The microbiologist's answers are in green.

I have a Health Department contact who might have access to a microbiologist who assists Dr. Fauci and she asked me if I had any quick questions for them. I put forth the following:

1: Long-term assessment of problems going into the winter/next year?
The virus is not weakening. If/when a vaccine is available, it will probably be required every six months to a year, with some guessing.

2: Recombination possibilities with bats in the Amazon?
Not discussed

3: Is herd immunity possible before the end of the year, if at all?
Herd immunity will not happen. So let me explain. There are two main types of viruses, DNA viruses and RNA viruses. DNA viruses tend to make carbon copies of themselves and so an immunity, via vaccine or previous infection, is more likely to be permanent. But RNA viruses tend to mutate quickly and even within your own body as it multiplies it is changing itself a bit as it goes, so immunity doesn’t necessarily work against the “new and improved” version of the virus. The big difference is that with antigen mediated immunity (DNA viruses) the body ALWAYS manufactures antigens to a thing - smallpox, polio, and things like that. (I’m staying out of the weeds because it’s complicated and I’ll mess it up if I talk about things that depend.) With cell mediated immunity (RNA viruses), the body can forget that it was a thing.

4: Most important metric to watch new cases, hospitalizations, ICU, or fatalities?
Watch Hospitalizations. Some asymptomatic carriers have been found to be super carriers, and numbers all over the country are unreliable. (Emphasis mine)

5: Percentage of population with natural resistance/immunity?
Not discussed

6: Accuracy of reports of antibodies disappearing after 60-90 days and does exposure to other coronaviruses have any effect on T-cells that might provide protection against CV19?
Not discussed

 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Other information that was included:

Air purifiers are helpful (that's why airplanes are fine, but airports not so much - the filters).

People's reaction to the virus is individual - not a matter of who gave it to you (ie, a person with a mild case can give it to someone who dies).


So there you have it. The three most important things I am taking away from this are:
1: Forget about discussing herd immunity. It's not possible.
2: This winter is going to be very bad because the virus is not getting weaker.
3: We cannot rely on the numbers we are seeing from the states. Whatever numbers we see, it's much, much worse.

This is straight from a high-ranking scientist on the front lines, not a politician. Feel free to do with this information what you want, but I'm not doubting anything she said.

Anyone have any thoughts on all of this?
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Thx for scoop RIFF!
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Answers & Information From Microbiologist Assisting Dr. Fauci:

This information was relayed to me by a family member who I trust implicitly. She takes this pandemic very seriously and would never provide me with false information. For what it's worth, I will personally vouch for her integrity, access to sources, and knowledge on the subject. The microbiologist's answers are in green.

I have a Health Department contact who might have access to a microbiologist who assists Dr. Fauci and she asked me if I had any quick questions for them. I put forth the following:

1: Long-term assessment of problems going into the winter/next year?
The virus is not weakening. If/when a vaccine is available, it will probably be required every six months to a year, with some guessing.

2: Recombination possibilities with bats in the Amazon?
Not discussed

3: Is herd immunity possible before the end of the year, if at all?
Herd immunity will not happen. So let me explain. There are two main types of viruses, DNA viruses and RNA viruses. DNA viruses tend to make carbon copies of themselves and so an immunity, via vaccine or previous infection, is more likely to be permanent. But RNA viruses tend to mutate quickly and even within your own body as it multiplies it is changing itself a bit as it goes, so immunity doesn’t necessarily work against the “new and improved” version of the virus. The big difference is that with antigen mediated immunity (DNA viruses) the body ALWAYS manufactures antigens to a thing - smallpox, polio, and things like that. (I’m staying out of the weeds because it’s complicated and I’ll mess it up if I talk about things that depend.) With cell mediated immunity (RNA viruses), the body can forget that it was a thing.

4: Most important metric to watch new cases, hospitalizations, ICU, or fatalities?
Watch Hospitalizations. Some asymptomatic carriers have been found to be super carriers, and numbers all over the country are unreliable. (Emphasis mine)

5: Percentage of population with natural resistance/immunity?
Not discussed

6: Accuracy of reports of antibodies disappearing after 60-90 days and does exposure to other coronaviruses have any effect on T-cells that might provide protection against CV19?
Not discussed

 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Other information that was included:

Air purifiers are helpful (that's why airplanes are fine, but airports not so much - the filters).

People's reaction to the virus is individual - not a matter of who gave it to you (ie, a person with a mild case can give it to someone who dies).


So there you have it. The three most important things I am taking away from this are:
1: Forget about discussing herd immunity. It's not possible.
2: This winter is going to be very bad because the virus is not getting weaker.
3: We cannot rely on the numbers we are seeing from the states. Whatever numbers we see, it's much, much worse.

This is straight from a high-ranking scientist on the front lines, not a politician. Feel free to do with this information what you want, but I'm not doubting anything she said.

Anyone have any thoughts on all of this?
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


You are appreciated.

Going to stew.
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Answers & Information From Microbiologist Assisting Dr. Fauci:

This information was relayed to me by a family member who I trust implicitly. She takes this pandemic very seriously and would never provide me with false information. For what it's worth, I will personally vouch for her integrity, access to sources, and knowledge on the subject. The microbiologist's answers are in green.

I have a Health Department contact who might have access to a microbiologist who assists Dr. Fauci and she asked me if I had any quick questions for them. I put forth the following:

1: Long-term assessment of problems going into the winter/next year?
The virus is not weakening. If/when a vaccine is available, it will probably be required every six months to a year, with some guessing.

2: Recombination possibilities with bats in the Amazon?
Not discussed

3: Is herd immunity possible before the end of the year, if at all?
Herd immunity will not happen. So let me explain. There are two main types of viruses, DNA viruses and RNA viruses. DNA viruses tend to make carbon copies of themselves and so an immunity, via vaccine or previous infection, is more likely to be permanent. But RNA viruses tend to mutate quickly and even within your own body as it multiplies it is changing itself a bit as it goes, so immunity doesn’t necessarily work against the “new and improved” version of the virus. The big difference is that with antigen mediated immunity (DNA viruses) the body ALWAYS manufactures antigens to a thing - smallpox, polio, and things like that. (I’m staying out of the weeds because it’s complicated and I’ll mess it up if I talk about things that depend.) With cell mediated immunity (RNA viruses), the body can forget that it was a thing.

4: Most important metric to watch new cases, hospitalizations, ICU, or fatalities?
Watch Hospitalizations. Some asymptomatic carriers have been found to be super carriers, and numbers all over the country are unreliable. (Emphasis mine)

5: Percentage of population with natural resistance/immunity?
Not discussed

6: Accuracy of reports of antibodies disappearing after 60-90 days and does exposure to other coronaviruses have any effect on T-cells that might provide protection against CV19?
Not discussed

 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Other information that was included:

Air purifiers are helpful (that's why airplanes are fine, but airports not so much - the filters).

People's reaction to the virus is individual - not a matter of who gave it to you (ie, a person with a mild case can give it to someone who dies).


So there you have it. The three most important things I am taking away from this are:
1: Forget about discussing herd immunity. It's not possible.
2: This winter is going to be very bad because the virus is not getting weaker.
3: We cannot rely on the numbers we are seeing from the states. Whatever numbers we see, it's much, much worse.

This is straight from a high-ranking scientist on the front lines, not a politician. Feel free to do with this information what you want, but I'm not doubting anything she said.

Anyone have any thoughts on all of this?
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Mrs Doom recommends stocking up on hypochlorous acid as a hard stop.measure to decontaminate all food stuffs entering the home - assuming you are buying 9nly sealed tins.

As for vaccine? She agrees. It's not be possible with the speed it mutates.

She has sample TT4, that has in a controlled environment, mutate more than 200 times.

No vaccine is ever going to be produced that will eradicate this disease.

And it hides in the optic nerve.

Eye pain will be a thing to watch for. Gritty, tired eyes and a sharp stabbing pain.
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(August 13, 2020) Biological E. inks pacts with Johnson & Johnson, Baylor College of Medicine on vaccine
Pharmaceuticals and biological company Biological E. (BE) has entered into separate agreements with Janssen Pharmaceutica NV and Baylor College of Medicine (BCM) for COVID-19 vaccine.
With Janssen Pharmaceutica, one of the Pharmaceutical companies of Johnson & Johnson,
the agreement is for creation / enhancement of manufacturing capacities for drug substance
and drug product for Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine candidate, Ad26.COV2.S.
Director of BioE Holdings Inc. Narender Dev Mantena, who heads BE’s novel vaccine initiative,
said “we look forward to deploying our manufacturing infrastructure to support Johnson & Johnson’s commitment to global access for its COVID-19 vaccine.”
Another release said the Baylor College of Medicine and BE have signed a licensing agreement for development of a safe,
effective and affordable COVID-19 vaccine. BE has licensed the recombinant protein COVID-19 vaccine candidate developed at Baylor.
According to the release, BE engaged in license negotiations with the BCM Ventures team,
a part of Baylor College of Medicine, after initial discussions on Baylor’s technology.
“We look forward to facilitating the technology transfer for the COVID-19 vaccine to India and for the world,” said Dr. Maria Elena Bottazzi,
associate dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor and co-director of Texas Children’s Centre for Vaccine Development.
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Mrs Doom has been busy.

Three things of note: when sprayed onto a test article that was wrapped in industry grade plastic and frozen in an environment water ice was allowed to form?

17 DAYS later, on thawing, the virus was not only able to reanimated in vitro, but the thawing process sped up replication as the stop/go switches were thrown and the virus went from its low and far survival mode and into its acute attack stage.

This virus knows when it is under attack and acts accordingly.

Point 2: It breeds inside water with even a small bacterial load within it. Where ever you have a legionnaires or other such risk say inside ducting and pipe work on aircon? This will be there. Vehicle INTAKES included.

It is why Chinese military are carrying out twice daily hypochlorous acid dry fogging on all vehicles travelling through infected zones.

Point3: China is a at zero war stocks. That's it, done. And Wuhan is STILL missing 4 MILLION people.
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I was wondering about its survival in water. That doesn't sound great. So rain, snow, oceans, lakes, rivers....all could be contaminated with this thing, huh?

Can they test it in salt water to see how it acts there?

Would explain all the people at sea getting sick if its blowing on the ocean breeze. Just imagine it just replicating like mad in the ocean...

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Thank you for sharing that, Riff Raff.
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Just a money update usa hospitals have made 6,622,395,000 if they get the 39k per death at the current number 169,805 lives lost
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CORONAVIRUS IN THE WOMB

Reports back in January of infants being born positive for Coronavirus were dismissed by the west, however doctors in Texas have confirmed just that.

A woman in Dallas was admitted to the hospital with COVID symptoms and tested positive. While in the hospital, she gave birth in early May and within 24 hours, the infant also tested positive for Coronavirus.

A pediatric infectious disease expert subsequently had the mother's placenta tested and the virus was detected in the womb.

A study of the incident was published July 10th in the Pediatric Infectuous Disease Journal.

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Anyone have any thoughts on all of this?
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Answers & Information From Microbiologist Assisting Dr. Fauci:

This information was relayed to me by a family member who I trust implicitly. She takes this pandemic very seriously and would never provide me with false information. For what it's worth, I will personally vouch for her integrity, access to sources, and knowledge on the subject. The microbiologist's answers are in green.

I have a Health Department contact who might have access to a microbiologist who assists Dr. Fauci and she asked me if I had any quick questions for them. I put forth the following:

1: Long-term assessment of problems going into the winter/next year?
The virus is not weakening. If/when a vaccine is available, it will probably be required every six months to a year, with some guessing.

2: Recombination possibilities with bats in the Amazon?
Not discussed

3: Is herd immunity possible before the end of the year, if at all?
Herd immunity will not happen. So let me explain. There are two main types of viruses, DNA viruses and RNA viruses. DNA viruses tend to make carbon copies of themselves and so an immunity, via vaccine or previous infection, is more likely to be permanent. But RNA viruses tend to mutate quickly and even within your own body as it multiplies it is changing itself a bit as it goes, so immunity doesn’t necessarily work against the “new and improved” version of the virus. The big difference is that with antigen mediated immunity (DNA viruses) the body ALWAYS manufactures antigens to a thing - smallpox, polio, and things like that. (I’m staying out of the weeds because it’s complicated and I’ll mess it up if I talk about things that depend.) With cell mediated immunity (RNA viruses), the body can forget that it was a thing.

4: Most important metric to watch new cases, hospitalizations, ICU, or fatalities?
Watch Hospitalizations. Some asymptomatic carriers have been found to be super carriers, and numbers all over the country are unreliable. (Emphasis mine)

5: Percentage of population with natural resistance/immunity?
Not discussed

6: Accuracy of reports of antibodies disappearing after 60-90 days and does exposure to other coronaviruses have any effect on T-cells that might provide protection against CV19?
Not discussed

 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Other information that was included:

Air purifiers are helpful (that's why airplanes are fine, but airports not so much - the filters).

People's reaction to the virus is individual - not a matter of who gave it to you (ie, a person with a mild case can give it to someone who dies).


So there you have it. The three most important things I am taking away from this are:
1: Forget about discussing herd immunity. It's not possible.
2: This winter is going to be very bad because the virus is not getting weaker.
3: We cannot rely on the numbers we are seeing from the states. Whatever numbers we see, it's much, much worse.

This is straight from a high-ranking scientist on the front lines, not a politician. Feel free to do with this information what you want, but I'm not doubting anything she said.

Anyone have any thoughts on all of this?
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Pretty much inline with what most of us believe.
We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:
The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence.
Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty.
The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires
We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE
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CORONAVIRUS IN THE WOMB

Reports back in January of infants being born positive for Coronavirus were dismissed by the west, however doctors in Texas have confirmed just that.

A woman in Dallas was admitted to the hospital with COVID symptoms and tested positive. While in the hospital, she gave birth in early May and within 24 hours, the infant also tested positive for Coronavirus.

A pediatric infectious disease expert subsequently had the mother's placenta tested and the virus was detected in the womb.

A study of the incident was published July 10th in the Pediatric Infectuous Disease Journal.

- Jackal
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Mrs Doom warned of this in the very early days.

Cov19 in semen creating infected babies and this above, crossing the barriers that normally would keep a baby safe from most of natures harmful effects.

Sad days we live in.

And that baby is now a carrier for the rest of their lives.
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Not weakening + No herd immunity = Disturbing (to say the least)
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Mrs Doom has been busy.

Three things of note: when sprayed onto a test article that was wrapped in industry grade plastic and frozen in an environment water ice was allowed to form?

17 DAYS later, on thawing, the virus was not only able to reanimated in vitro, but the thawing process sped up replication as the stop/go switches were thrown and the virus went from its low and far survival mode and into its acute attack stage.

This virus knows when it is under attack and acts accordingly.

Point 2: It breeds inside water with even a small bacterial load within it. Where ever you have a legionnaires or other such risk say inside ducting and pipe work on aircon? This will be there. Vehicle INTAKES included.

It is why Chinese military are carrying out twice daily hypochlorous acid dry fogging on all vehicles travelling through infected zones.

Point3: China is a at zero war stocks. That's it, done. And Wuhan is STILL missing 4 MILLION people.
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I was wondering about its survival in water. That doesn't sound great. So rain, snow, oceans, lakes, rivers....all could be contaminated with this thing, huh?

Can they test it in salt water to see how it acts there?

Would explain all the people at sea getting sick if its blowing on the ocean breeze. Just imagine it just replicating like mad in the ocean...

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Algae blooms and also it is inside fish that feed on human waste.

Shell fish and prawns especially from regions where human untreated effluent spreads into the sea.
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Finally someone asking the right questions.....

Might SARS CoV 2 Have Arisen via Serial Passage through an Animal Host or Cell Culture?
A potential explanation for much of the novel coronavirus’ distinctive genome



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 Quoting: CleverCreator


CC, Kevin McCairn suggested this possibility a long time ago in his Q &As.
He said all they basically needed to do was run the virus they collected from the cave bats that killed miners in 2013 through vats of monkey kidney cells and select the most virulent mutations to continually run through more monkey kidney cells as a starting point to further work on in their Wuhan lab (which seems to have been unreported on). He is very suspicious of the doctor who fled to the US’s story due to the time line of the development of the virus she claims.

Also there’s the problem of the PRRA super-antigenic insertion which, if I’m recalling rightly, is not found in any other corona viruses and is found in cobra venom and rabies. This is what the lab doctor who was murdered by a Chinese “housing guy” on his campus was working on before this came to light.

Rabies is what is used in labs to trace neuron pathways for research. The problem with using rabies in labs for that purpose, he says, is rabies can only be used in tests for a short time as the very valuable lab monkeys become rabid. That is one of the reasons he says sarscov19 May have been developed as a step in Brain/machine interface research, to utilize rabies properties of tracing neural pathways using virus carriers where there is big money and the big world wide players are involved.
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Not weakening + No herd immunity = Disturbing (to say the least)
 Quoting: Serenity Now


Indeed, and the fact recombination wasnt assessed troubles me. If it recombined or has already in brazil or elsewhere in SA, we are screwed. I mean freaked
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So the more I read today and the more it is proving GLP was correct months ago about this stupid virus the more I'm thankful for listening to my gut and everyone here.

Sucks that I don't think I'll ever be prepped enough to make it all the way through this but I would like to survive winter at least.

All the news today is really confirming my decision to get off city water and sewer and get somewhere with a fireplace. And not have neighbors that are 20ft away. Wasn't sure if I was just panicking and being irrational but the more this goes on the more my gut is going back to screaming get out of densely populated areas.

Oakland University where they are implementing the covid tracker app for all students is only about a mile from where I'm at. All that parking area is great for quarantine tents!! Oh and why not expand services to the surrounding neighborhoods when they start getting infected.

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Finally someone asking the right questions.....

Might SARS CoV 2 Have Arisen via Serial Passage through an Animal Host or Cell Culture?
A potential explanation for much of the novel coronavirus’ distinctive genome



[link to onlinelibrary.wiley.com (secure)]
 Quoting: CleverCreator


CC, Kevin McCairn suggested this possibility a long time ago in his Q &As.
He said all they basically needed to do was run the virus they collected from the cave bats that killed miners in 2013 through vats of monkey kidney cells and select the most virulent mutations to continually run through more monkey kidney cells as a starting point to further work on in their Wuhan lab (which seems to have been unreported on). He is very suspicious of the doctor who fled to the US’s story due to the time line of the development of the virus she claims.

Also there’s the problem of the PRRA super-antigenic insertion which, if I’m recalling rightly, is not found in any other corona viruses and is found in cobra venom and rabies. This is what the lab doctor who was murdered by a Chinese “housing guy” on his campus was working on before this came to light.

Rabies is what is used in labs to trace neuron pathways for research. The problem with using rabies in labs for that purpose, he says, is rabies can only be used in tests for a short time as the very valuable lab monkeys become rabid. That is one of the reasons he says sarscov19 May have been developed as a step in Brain/machine interface research, to utilize rabies properties of tracing neural pathways using virus carriers where there is big money and the big world wide players are involved.
 Quoting: sos


So wonder what happens when you get the 'vaccine'?

Borgs?

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Mrs Doom has been busy.

Three things of note: when sprayed onto a test article that was wrapped in industry grade plastic and frozen in an environment water ice was allowed to form?

17 DAYS later, on thawing, the virus was not only able to reanimated in vitro, but the thawing process sped up replication as the stop/go switches were thrown and the virus went from its low and far survival mode and into its acute attack stage.

This virus knows when it is under attack and acts accordingly.

Point 2: It breeds inside water with even a small bacterial load within it. Where ever you have a legionnaires or other such risk say inside ducting and pipe work on aircon? This will be there. Vehicle INTAKES included.

It is why Chinese military are carrying out twice daily hypochlorous acid dry fogging on all vehicles travelling through infected zones.

Point3: China is a at zero war stocks. That's it, done. And Wuhan is STILL missing 4 MILLION people.
 Quoting: Uncle Doom 33326731


Very interesting. I wonder if the virus interprets the freeze thaw cycle as a bat’s awakening out of hibernation - time for it to get busy spreading.
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Not weakening + No herd immunity = Disturbing (to say the least)
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Indeed, and the fact recombination wasnt assessed troubles me. If it recombined or has already in brazil or elsewhere in SA, we are screwed. I mean freaked
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Good point.

Riff Raff, was there any reason given for why those other questions were not addressed?
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On the wing itself. Not the packaging

Chicken imported from Brazil tests positive for coronavirus, says China

Local disease control centers tested a routine sample extracted off the chicken wings as part of regular screenings carried out on meat

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Okay, that's bad. That is a game-changer. Next question is how at risk is frozen meat and other products in the US?
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How exactly? It was a non-cultured surface sample from chicken processed in Brazil. Given what we have seen from meat packing plants I would be surprised if there was no viral RNA on it. I'm also not sure if any other country is doing any testing on imported foods other then china.

I am much more curious if there any infections that can be linked to consumption of meat products for which I have seen no proof thus far. It seems to me that is mostly a concerted effort to shift blame away from the CCP for the initial outbreak. If people are fearful of the disease coming in from the outside it's harder to focus on failures regarding the initial outbreak and the containment thereof.
 Quoting: Dutchy20


Valid points, to be sure. My thinking is that while other contaminants - salmonella, for instance - can infect people who don't properly cook their meat or wash their hands after handling it raw, it's generally not fatal. But COVID can be. So I would start looking at statistics of how many cases of food poisoning from improperly cooked meat there are in the US per year and use that as a gauge for how many people could *potentially* become infected with COVID through the same means.
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Good idea!!!
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Mrs Doom has been busy.

Three things of note: when sprayed onto a test article that was wrapped in industry grade plastic and frozen in an environment water ice was allowed to form?

17 DAYS later, on thawing, the virus was not only able to reanimated in vitro, but the thawing process sped up replication as the stop/go switches were thrown and the virus went from its low and far survival mode and into its acute attack stage.

This virus knows when it is under attack and acts accordingly.

Point 2: It breeds inside water with even a small bacterial load within it. Where ever you have a legionnaires or other such risk say inside ducting and pipe work on aircon? This will be there. Vehicle INTAKES included.

It is why Chinese military are carrying out twice daily hypochlorous acid dry fogging on all vehicles travelling through infected zones.

Point3: China is a at zero war stocks. That's it, done. And Wuhan is STILL missing 4 MILLION people.
 Quoting: Uncle Doom 33326731


Very interesting. I wonder if the virus interprets the freeze thaw cycle as a bat’s awakening out of hibernation - time for it to get busy spreading.
 Quoting: sos


When an infected Bat was sent into an induced stupor via low temps to death inducing levels of cold, the virus exploded. Literally. Causing a massive faecal dump before the bats life ended, falling from its roost. In bats that were plunged into the cold, but then reanimated and brought back to tropical temps? The virus went absolutely fucking insane. It went for it.

In short, this virus is feeding off the brain and endocrine survival signals as it's own 'go'switch.

It KNOWS when it is under attack or when it can simply merry it's way through.


This is, mrs doom theories here, why the cold workers are getting hit in rapid succession.

The cold is literally turning the virus aggressive. And the workers are chilled from breathing in cold air.
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Michigan how dare you cross over the 1k mark again with 1,167 new cases





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