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He was asked about reports circulating of 10,000 or 100,000 sick not the 4500 they were reporting. He kind of stammered but said they had no knowledge of 10,000 sick, and that they were reporting the numbers they had.
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Thanks, when are todays figures due?
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The big figure dump is usually early evening in the US. They kind of trickle in through the day, and then the chinese authorities release the info enmasse midnight Wuhan time
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h/t crofsblog

It is understood that from the 29th, the National Health and Medical Commission's press conference will be held at 3 pm, and the epidemic data will be updated and released every day at 8 am and 3 pm.
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6pm central and 1am central times
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H2H outside Hubei province

30 provinces have cases
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Data release time in the UK?

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Data release time in the UK?
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roughly midnight and 7am?
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now down playing asymptomatic cases
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H2H outside Hubei province

30 provinces have cases
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BS they only have 23 provinces
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2 suspects Ohio
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H2H outside Hubei province

30 provinces have cases
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BS they only have 23 provinces
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I'm just typing what they said in the press conference.
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now down playing asymptomatic cases
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Yeah, "well we haven't seen the data" "its a very small percentage that would be from Asymptomatic carriers"
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The ONLY thing they were definitive about during that press conference was 'don't buy masks'. Just don't.
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The ONLY thing they were definitive about during that press conference was 'don't buy masks'. Just don't.
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chuckle

Seriously? They said not to buy masks? Well, the good news is there's no way to ensure that Americans buy ALL the masks than to have their government tell them not to.
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At the current moment in time, the seasonal Flu has a higher infectious rate and has also infected and killed many times more! And no one bats an eye


I keep seeing people writing this, but it's like comparing apples to oranges. Flu stats are released annually. Of course more have died from the flu, because you're looking at a year's worth of data. The Wuhan virus is just getting started.
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The ONLY thing they were definitive about during that press conference was 'don't buy masks'. Just don't.
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chuckle

Seriously? They said not to buy masks? Well, the good news is there's no way to ensure that Americans buy ALL the masks than to have their government tell them not to.
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hmmmm...maybe that's what they are thinking....reverse psychology
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At the current moment in time, the seasonal Flu has a higher infectious rate and has also infected and killed many times more! And no one bats an eye


I keep seeing people writing this, but it's like comparing apples to oranges. Flu stats are released annually. Of course more have died from the flu, because you're looking at a year's worth of data. The Wuhan virus is just getting started.


Once again, for ALL the flutards out there.

flu kills 2 in 100,000
nCoV kills 3 in 100.

See the problem? Let's do some math.

flu kills .002 people in 100
nCoV kills 3 in 100

or

flu kills 2 in 100,000
nCoV kills 3000 in 100,000

Either way, Math Is.

Get it now?
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Good evening,

Ontario Health officials have identified two cases (one confirmed, one presumptive) of Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in Toronto. Health officials currently maintain that the risk of contracting the virus remains low. The ***** is following the situation carefully and working with public health officials to determine if additional precautions are necessary.
 
Symptoms of the virus include fever, cough, and difficulty breathing. Should you experience these symptoms AND have recently travelled from China, avoid contact with others and contact a health care professional or go to the nearest hospital. 

Staff is reminded of the following precautions with respect to public health:

wash your hands often with soap and water and use hand sanitizer;
cover your mouth and nose with your elbow or a tissue when you cough or sneeze, throw out the tissue right away, and wash your hands;
avoid close contact with others if you feel unwell;
if you have a severe cold or the flu, stay home; and
clean and disinfect frequently touched objects and surfaces.

The ***** will continue to follow the situation and proactively prepare should the virus make its way into our region. Should you have questions about the virus specifically, contact your local health agency or refer to these public websites...
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Good evening,

Ontario Health officials have identified two cases (one confirmed, one presumptive) of Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in Toronto. Health officials currently maintain that the risk of contracting the virus remains low. The ***** is following the situation carefully and working with public health officials to determine if additional precautions are necessary.
 
Symptoms of the virus include fever, cough, and difficulty breathing. Should you experience these symptoms AND have recently travelled from China, avoid contact with others and contact a health care professional or go to the nearest hospital. 

Staff is reminded of the following precautions with respect to public health:

wash your hands often with soap and water and use hand sanitizer;
cover your mouth and nose with your elbow or a tissue when you cough or sneeze, throw out the tissue right away, and wash your hands;
avoid close contact with others if you feel unwell;
if you have a severe cold or the flu, stay home; and
clean and disinfect frequently touched objects and surfaces.

The ***** will continue to follow the situation and proactively prepare should the virus make its way into our region. Should you have questions about the virus specifically, contact your local health agency or refer to these public websites...

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Thanks!
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I would add that conjunctivitis or "pink eye" can also be a symptom, if you catch nCoV through the eyes.
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Good evening,

Ontario Health officials have identified two cases (one confirmed, one presumptive) of Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in Toronto. Health officials currently maintain that the risk of contracting the virus remains low. The ***** is following the situation carefully and working with public health officials to determine if additional precautions are necessary.
 
Symptoms of the virus include fever, cough, and difficulty breathing. Should you experience these symptoms AND have recently travelled from China, avoid contact with others and contact a health care professional or go to the nearest hospital. 

Staff is reminded of the following precautions with respect to public health:

wash your hands often with soap and water and use hand sanitizer;
cover your mouth and nose with your elbow or a tissue when you cough or sneeze, throw out the tissue right away, and wash your hands;
avoid close contact with others if you feel unwell;
if you have a severe cold or the flu, stay home; and
clean and disinfect frequently touched objects and surfaces.

The ***** will continue to follow the situation and proactively prepare should the virus make its way into our region. Should you have questions about the virus specifically, contact your local health agency or refer to these public websites...

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Thanks!
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That came straight from the office of our Director of Education.

Needless to say, if parents begin to react the same way they did during H1N1, there is going to be a lot of pressure to close schools, especially if/when the first few students get sick.

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Good evening,

Ontario Health officials have identified two cases (one confirmed, one presumptive) of Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in Toronto. Health officials currently maintain that the risk of contracting the virus remains low. The ***** is following the situation carefully and working with public health officials to determine if additional precautions are necessary.
 
Symptoms of the virus include fever, cough, and difficulty breathing. Should you experience these symptoms AND have recently travelled from China, avoid contact with others and contact a health care professional or go to the nearest hospital. 

Staff is reminded of the following precautions with respect to public health:

wash your hands often with soap and water and use hand sanitizer;
cover your mouth and nose with your elbow or a tissue when you cough or sneeze, throw out the tissue right away, and wash your hands;
avoid close contact with others if you feel unwell;
if you have a severe cold or the flu, stay home; and
clean and disinfect frequently touched objects and surfaces.

The ***** will continue to follow the situation and proactively prepare should the virus make its way into our region. Should you have questions about the virus specifically, contact your local health agency or refer to these public websites...

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Thanks!
 Quoting: NawtyBits


That came straight from the office of our Director of Education.

Needless to say, if parents begin to react the same way they did during H1N1, there is going to be a lot of pressure to close schools, especially if/when the first few students get sick.
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what side of Ont are you on? Toronto side? Thunder Bay side?

I live about 3 hours south of TB
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Good evening,

Ontario Health officials have identified two cases (one confirmed, one presumptive) of Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in Toronto. Health officials currently maintain that the risk of contracting the virus remains low. The ***** is following the situation carefully and working with public health officials to determine if additional precautions are necessary.
 
Symptoms of the virus include fever, cough, and difficulty breathing. Should you experience these symptoms AND have recently travelled from China, avoid contact with others and contact a health care professional or go to the nearest hospital. 

Staff is reminded of the following precautions with respect to public health:

wash your hands often with soap and water and use hand sanitizer;
cover your mouth and nose with your elbow or a tissue when you cough or sneeze, throw out the tissue right away, and wash your hands;
avoid close contact with others if you feel unwell;
if you have a severe cold or the flu, stay home; and
clean and disinfect frequently touched objects and surfaces.

The ***** will continue to follow the situation and proactively prepare should the virus make its way into our region. Should you have questions about the virus specifically, contact your local health agency or refer to these public websites...

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Thanks!
 Quoting: NawtyBits


That came straight from the office of our Director of Education.

Needless to say, if parents begin to react the same way they did during H1N1, there is going to be a lot of pressure to close schools, especially if/when the first few students get sick.
 Quoting: Woodenboat


what side of Ont are you on? Toronto side? Thunder Bay side?

I live about 3 hours south of TB
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Eastern Ontario...St. Lawrence River region.

You must be in Minnesota. Dultuth? I used to live in TBay.
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Thanks!
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That came straight from the office of our Director of Education.

Needless to say, if parents begin to react the same way they did during H1N1, there is going to be a lot of pressure to close schools, especially if/when the first few students get sick.
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what side of Ont are you on? Toronto side? Thunder Bay side?

I live about 3 hours south of TB
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Eastern Ontario...St. Lawrence River region.

You must be in Minnesota. Dultuth? I used to live in TBay.
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SOuth of Duluth in Northern Wisconsin
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Note: A story published Monday quoted Box as saying “we are monitoring cases.” The “we” referenced the national health community, not cases specific to Indiana.
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First case in Vancouver, B.C. confirmed...

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First suspected case in Jamaica...

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"China's first coronavirus hospital OPENS after workers and volunteers spent two days converting an empty building to a 1,000-bed medical centre"

"The emergency facility in Huanggang city was up and running in 48 hours"

"A batch of coronavirus patients were transferred there at 10:30pm local time

"Three more such hospitals are being built, two in Wuhan and one in Zhengzhou"

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"China's first coronavirus hospital OPENS after workers and volunteers spent two days converting an empty building to a 1,000-bed medical centre"

"The emergency facility in Huanggang city was up and running in 48 hours"

"A batch of coronavirus patients were transferred there at 10:30pm local time

"Three more such hospitals are being built, two in Wuhan and one in Zhengzhou"

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Transferring infected patients...the logistics!
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"China's first coronavirus hospital OPENS after workers and volunteers spent two days converting an empty building to a 1,000-bed medical centre"

"The emergency facility in Huanggang city was up and running in 48 hours"

"A batch of coronavirus patients were transferred there at 10:30pm local time

"Three more such hospitals are being built, two in Wuhan and one in Zhengzhou"

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Transferring infected patients...the logistics!
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I know. I was thinking that too. I guess that's why they transferred at night with less people around.
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Ontario confirms second presumptive coronavirus case in wife of first patient

Public health officials in Ontario are reporting a second presumptive case of the new coronavirus.

They say the wife of the man who became the first case of the illness in Canada has also tested positive for the virus.

The province says the woman has been in self-isolation since arriving in Toronto with her husband last week.

Comment: To me, it's unclear if she traveled from China with her husband; I don't like the wording of that sentence.

So, more info would be helpful, is she imported or H2H?
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"Ontario Health Minister Christine Elliott said the second patient is the wife of the first Canadian patient, who federal officials said departed Wuhan, China and boarded China Southern Airlines Flight CZ311, which landed at Pearson from Guangzhou, China on Jan. 22. The National Microbiology Laboratory in Winnipeg has now confirmed that case."

The wife was on the plane too. I lost the article but the man did not self report at the hospital, it wasn't until he got home when a different family member called the police stating that he had recently returned from China. Will post if I can find it.
19 more suspected cases in Canada.
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"Upon arrival at Toronto, the man did not report to border-service officers that he was feeling ill, despite “detection” measures at the airport, which includes screening questions at electronic border kiosks that ask about previous travel to Wuhan in the past 14 days and remind people to report flu-like symptoms to border service agents."


Also, another confirmed case in the Vancouver region.

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