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COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345

 
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Reporter: How long is the incubation period of the new coronavirus? After a person is infected, what other symptoms do they have besides fever? How to judge if it belongs to a new type of coronavirus?

Academician Li Lanjuan: When coronavirus is in SARS, the incubation period is up to 14 days. This time, according to the current patient statistics, it is estimated to be within 10 days.
However, this new type of coronavirus infection has great differences among different people after infection. Some patients have a relatively long incubation period after infection, and they develop onset in two or three days. The longest is 10 days. We estimate the incubation period to be slightly longer and set it to 14 days.

The reporter asked: Is it contagious during the incubation period?
Academician Li Lanjuan: The incubation period may now also be contagious, so this point needs to be taken very seriously, because now I also understand the situation of some patients, the patients themselves do not have fever, and those who have contacted him in the early stage have fever. People may also have infections and fevers later.

Comment: This is very ungood. Airport screening will be ineffective.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


So the incubation period is NOT 14 days.
2-10 days is incubation.

That's PNEUMONIC PLAGUE.
All the symptoms, blood from nose and mouth, coma, death.
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Hey MC, do you have a link about the bleeding part? Thanks
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From Jan 1
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"Unverified 1st new SARS in HK
On Telegram, hospital A&E staff were saying they admitted a patient w/ pneumonia. High fever + coughed up blood, the patient’s been to Wuhan in recent 2 weeks.

Could that be the new SARS? More info needed!"

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"It's negative for SARS, so it's still unknown disease at the moment, it could well be more dangerous than SARS...
Thanks China
(ps we can wear gas mask legally now?)"

But these guys are Hong Kong. and I can't translate Chinese.
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So the incubation period is NOT 14 days.
2-10 days is incubation.

That's PNEUMONIC PLAGUE.
All the symptoms, blood from nose and mouth, coma, death.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Hey MC, do you have a link about the bleeding part? Thanks
 Quoting: NawtyBits


From Jan 1
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"Unverified 1st new SARS in HK
On Telegram, hospital A&E staff were saying they admitted a patient w/ pneumonia. High fever + coughed up blood, the patient’s been to Wuhan in recent 2 weeks.

Could that be the new SARS? More info needed!"

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"It's negative for SARS, so it's still unknown disease at the moment, it could well be more dangerous than SARS...
Thanks China
(ps we can wear gas mask legally now?)"

But these guys are Hong Kong. and I can't translate Chinese.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Thanks
 Quoting: NawtyBits


Puts the outbreak date around 2nd week of December.
Was this a biological from Wuhan targeting Hong Kong who just happened to stop by the fish market OR was China late on the severity of the problem?
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72% of deaths over 40 years old
40% had underlying conditions
62% males
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Isn't China about 62% male after 40 years of gender-selective abortion, anyway?
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Supplemental Entry:
"On 14 December, the Hong Kong Police also released a statement that a second bomb plot have has foiled within a week and three men have been arrested in Tuen Mun, on suspicion of testing explosive devices and chemicals. The homemade, remote-controlled devices were intended for use at mass protests. Protective gear, shields, bulletproof vests and gas masks were also recovered at the scene.[19]"
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On December 16th the Hong Kong riots were under control after use of tear gas and massive police response. About the same time virus showed up. huh?
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Following

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lets see

probably airborne,not admitted to but not not denied either.have carefully said H2H transfere.

a huge city shut down,1st time in 70 yrs.

about 30% death rate,2 wk incubatiuon and contagious during that time.

death #'s double each day

now on all continents except antarctica.spreading like wildfire.

with the pnemonia,most likely more deaths that werre mis-daignosed.

it is continuing to mutate to become more serious.

the evidence points to this being out of control already. the timeline from china doesn't jive with the #'s they reported.


is there any good news yet???
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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lets see

probably airborne,not admitted to but not not denied either.have carefully said H2H transfere.

a huge city shut down,1st time in 70 yrs.

about 30% death rate,2 wk incubatiuon and contagious during that time.

death #'s double each day

now on all continents except antarctica.spreading like wildfire.

with the pnemonia,most likely more deaths that werre mis-daignosed.

it is continuing to mutate to become more serious.

the evidence points to this being out of control already. the timeline from china doesn't jive with the #'s they reported.


is there any good news yet???
 Quoting: JAZZz50


In a nutshell.

Good news? Well, you and I aren't sick yet.
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This is a very interesting read. It's the infection expert doctor who got sick. Appears to be improving.

He thinks he may have gotten infected through the eyes, as conjunctivitis was the first thing he noticed. I haven't seen conjunctivitis mentioned as a symptom yet. He says the conjunctivitis set in several hours before the fever.
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This is a very interesting read. It's the infection expert doctor who got sick. Appears to be improving.

He thinks he may have gotten infected through the eyes, as conjunctivitis was the first thing he noticed. I haven't seen conjunctivitis mentioned as a symptom yet. He says the conjunctivitis set in several hours before the fever.
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Like I said earlier. Masks can be quite ineffective without eye protection. Goggles, face shield, whatever. Make a note.
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probably airborne,not admitted to but not not denied either.have carefully said H2H transfere.

a huge city shut down,1st time in 70 yrs.

about 30% death rate,2 wk incubatiuon and contagious during that time.

death #'s double each day

now on all continents except antarctica.spreading like wildfire.

with the pnemonia,most likely more deaths that werre mis-daignosed.

it is continuing to mutate to become more serious.

the evidence points to this being out of control already. the timeline from china doesn't jive with the #'s they reported.


is there any good news yet???
 Quoting: JAZZz50


In a nutshell.

Good news? Well, you and I aren't sick yet.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


are u sure? maybe we should hold our breathe for a week or 2. buyt yeah this one looks bad and has spread way more than it should have.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Alleged video at Wuhan hospital

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Alleged road block in Wuhan

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It's morning in China, and people are waking up to Day 1 of the lockdown.
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lets see

probably airborne,not admitted to but not not denied either.have carefully said H2H transfere.

a huge city shut down,1st time in 70 yrs.

about 30% death rate,2 wk incubatiuon and contagious during that time.

death #'s double each day

now on all continents except antarctica.spreading like wildfire.

with the pnemonia,most likely more deaths that werre mis-daignosed.

it is continuing to mutate to become more serious.

the evidence points to this being out of control already. the timeline from china doesn't jive with the #'s they reported.


is there any good news yet???
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In a nutshell.

Good news? Well, you and I aren't sick yet.
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Where's that funny "Bring out your dead!" Monty Python video.
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probably airborne,not admitted to but not not denied either.have carefully said H2H transfere.

a huge city shut down,1st time in 70 yrs.

about 30% death rate,2 wk incubatiuon and contagious during that time.

death #'s double each day

now on all continents except antarctica.spreading like wildfire.

with the pnemonia,most likely more deaths that werre mis-daignosed.

it is continuing to mutate to become more serious.

the evidence points to this being out of control already. the timeline from china doesn't jive with the #'s they reported.


is there any good news yet???
 Quoting: JAZZz50


In a nutshell.

Good news? Well, you and I aren't sick yet.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


Where's that funny "Bring out your dead!" Monty Python video.
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RIP Terry Jones
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I have a list of the 17 dead, with ages, preexisting conditions, and the disease course for each one. For some reason, I can't post it. It's a long post, maybe too long. I don't know. I don't know if there are banned words, it's a translation from Chinese. I'll keep trying.
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555 confirmed cases. Still 17 deaths.
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I have a list of the 17 dead, with ages, preexisting conditions, and the disease course for each one. For some reason, I can't post it. It's a long post, maybe too long. I don't know. I don't know if there are banned words, it's a translation from Chinese. I'll keep trying.
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I have a list of the 17 dead, with ages, preexisting conditions, and the disease course for each one. For some reason, I can't post it. It's a long post, maybe too long. I don't know. I don't know if there are banned words, it's a translation from Chinese. I'll keep trying.
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thanks
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Who remembers the Zika virus?
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2nd case confirmed in Macau,
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Population density of 55,270 per square mile (21,340/km).
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Who remembers the Zika virus?
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Started in Yap.
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I have a list of the 17 dead, with ages, preexisting conditions, and the disease course for each one. For some reason, I can't post it. It's a long post, maybe too long. I don't know. I don't know if there are banned words, it's a translation from Chinese. I'll keep trying.
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These all seem like elderly people... which would mean non-event.
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I have a list of the 17 dead, with ages, preexisting conditions, and the disease course for each one. For some reason, I can't post it. It's a long post, maybe too long. I don't know. I don't know if there are banned words, it's a translation from Chinese. I'll keep trying.
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These all seem like elderly people... which would mean non-event.
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Agreed, for now. Seeing lots of younger people infected, and so far the recovery numbers are not rising as steadily as the deaths. Time will tell.
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Still seeing flights in and out, unless I'm just not aware of how this site works.
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It's after 10 a.m. there, the "official" lock down time.

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72% of deaths over 40 years old
40% had underlying conditions
62% males
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Isn't China about 62% male after 40 years of gender-selective abortion, anyway?
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snip:
China Demographics Profile 2019

Population
1,384,688,986 (July 2018 est.)
Age structure
0-14 years: 17.22% (male 128,270,371 /female 110,120,535)
15-24 years: 12.32% (male 91,443,139 /female 79,181,726)
25-54 years: 47.84% (male 338,189,015 /female 324,180,103)
55-64 years: 11.35% (male 79,340,391 /female 77,857,806)
65 years and over: 11.27% (male 74,277,631 /female 81,828,269) (2018 est.)
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I have a list of the 17 dead, with ages, preexisting conditions, and the disease course for each one. For some reason, I can't post it. It's a long post, maybe too long. I don't know. I don't know if there are banned words, it's a translation from Chinese. I'll keep trying.
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These all seem like elderly people... which would mean non-event.
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Doesn't jive with the WHO stats saying 72% over age 40 for the deaths. All are over 40 years old. Something is fucky.
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The confirmed case in Washington did not have symptoms while passing through Sea-Tac airport. Officials are saying that because of this, xmission was less likely. Weasel words "less likely". And untrue. This virus is transmissible during the incubation period.

Health department downplaying the risk. Of course.
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I have a list of the 17 dead, with ages, preexisting conditions, and the disease course for each one. For some reason, I can't post it. It's a long post, maybe too long. I don't know. I don't know if there are banned words, it's a translation from Chinese. I'll keep trying.
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These all seem like elderly people... which would mean non-event.
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You don't lock down a city of 11 million people for a non-event.
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I have a list of the 17 dead, with ages, preexisting conditions, and the disease course for each one. For some reason, I can't post it. It's a long post, maybe too long. I don't know. I don't know if there are banned words, it's a translation from Chinese. I'll keep trying.
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 Quoting: In Yer Neck


These all seem like elderly people... which would mean non-event.
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Doesn't jive with the WHO stats saying 72% over age 40 for the deaths. All are over 40 years old. Something is fucky.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


I pulled out the sex, age, and preexisting conditions for the 17 confirmed deaths so far. Sorry it's a bit sloppy.

From previous post above:
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Original document link (in Chinese):
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1. Zeng XX, male, 61 years old, has a history of liver cirrhosis and myxoma.
2. Xiong XX, male, 69 years old
3. Wang XX, male, 89 years old, has a history of hypertension, cerebral infarction, and cerebral softening
4. Patient Chen X, male, 89 years old, had previous hypertension, diabetes, coronary heart disease, frequent premature ventricular contractions, and coronary stent implantation.
5. Li XX, male, 66 years old, previously had COPD, hypertension, type 2 diabetes, chronic renal insufficiency, ascending aortic artificial aorta replacement in 2007, abdominal aortic stent placement in 2017, Cholecystectomy, multiple organ damage.
6. Wang XX, male, 75 years old. Previous history of hypertension and hip arthroplasty.
7. Yin XX, female, 48 years old, had previous diabetes and cerebral infarction (stroke).
8. Liu XX, male, 82 years old,
9. Luo XX, male, 66 years old.
10. Zhang XX, male, 81 years old.
11. Zhang XX, female, 82 years old, has a history of Parkinson's disease for 5 years, orally takes Medopa.
12. week XX, male, 65 years old,
13. Hu XX, female, 80 years old. history of hypertension for more than 20 years, a history of diabetes for more than 20 years, and a history of Parkinson's disease.
14. Lei XX, male, 53 years old.
15. Wang XX, male, 86 years old, No fever, diabetic hypertension, and colon cancer 4 years after surgery
16. Yuan XX, female, 70 years old.
17. Zhan XX, male, 84 years old. Previous history of chronic bronchitis, unstable angina pectoris, coronary stenting, hypertension, gastrointestinal bleeding, renal insufficiency, hyperlipidemia, hyperuricemia, lacunar cerebral infarction.
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Health officials in Washington state have worked together with a Snohomish County man with the Wuhan coronavirus to determine who he may have come into contact with during his travel from China to Seattle.

“As of now, there are at least 16 identified close contacts,”

“We’re not asking them to isolate unless they have symptoms,”

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