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I heard from local sources that a number of the quarantined DP folks from Travis are being treated at local hospitals. I don't have a link to share ... I'm in the Bay Area, and a friend is a nurse who conveyed the info. She also said that two Walnut Creek people have been admitted into the hospital and quarantined ... this is all info through the nurse grapevine, so I have to trust it is true. Local TV news did mention a couple of days ago that some patients were being treated in area hospitals, but wouldn't release any more info than that. A hospital in SF was specifically stated (but not which one.)
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h/t kiwibird

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Dozens of passengers who were allowed off a coronavirus-stricken cruise ship have developed symptoms including fever and will be asked to take tests for the virus, Japan’s health minister said Wednesday.

The government has contacted 813 former passengers of the Diamond Princess. Around 970 were allowed off the boat last week after testing negative for the virus, but several have subsequently been found to be carrying the disease.

The ministry found “45 people had certain symptoms,” health minister Katsunobu Kato told parliament.
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Motherhubbard
 Quoting: miabelieves


This validates the rumor that the asymptomatic period may be longer in some individuals- likely due to immune system differences in people. Holy crap, imagine a person shedding virus for up to 30 days-- all while looking and feeling perfectly fine.

If nothing else, this will shut down the economy because everyone is afraid to possibly be infected by a "healthy" person in a store.

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CBC News (Canadian version of PBS/NPR)...get prepped now!

As stock markets fall, the time to stock up at the store is before COVID-19 comes to town: Don Pittis

[link to www.cbc.ca (secure)]


snip: And that's economically inefficient. Gradually stocking up on things you might need to get you through a hypothetical quarantine means grocery stores will have time to adjust supplies, reducing the chances of empty shelves later.

Culley said that since power and water should not be a problem during a disease outbreak, ready-to-eat canned goods could be supplemented with grain and beans as a longer term safety net. As long as it is kept dry and safe from pests, a bag of white rice will last for up to 30 years and still taste good, says a report from Utah State University.

Thoughts: Empty shelves are imminent, especially in Canada with the current disruptions to our rail networks. The information dam has broken.
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Great article for friends and family!
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I heard from local sources that a number of the quarantined DP folks from Travis are being treated at local hospitals. I don't have a link to share ... I'm in the Bay Area, and a friend is a nurse who conveyed the info. She also said that two Walnut Creek people have been admitted into the hospital and quarantined ... this is all info through the nurse grapevine, so I have to trust it is true. Local TV news did mention a couple of days ago that some patients were being treated in area hospitals, but wouldn't release any more info than that. A hospital in SF was specifically stated (but not which one.)
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If it's in San Fransisco, likely Kaiser Permanente.
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BREAKING - U.S. President Trump announces 6pm White House news conference on #COVID19 coronavirus crisis.

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Thought he said it's all under control? Possibly a reiteration upcoming to calm the $$$ markets?
 Quoting: LostRabbit


We’ll see. 6PM is telling...it’s 2 hours after markets close, which means he’ll have time to adjust his speech to whatever today’s events were. He’s also going to use the address to lean on Congress and get them to immediately pass the funding request.
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Iran Unverified

h/t shiloh

Isfahan doctor says Iran’s coronavirus outbreak is “out of control”

According to an audio file published on social media, a doctor in Isfahan said that Iran’s coronavirus outbreak was “out of control”.

[snip]

A summarized translation of the doctor’s comments can be found below:

“Unfortunately, the conditions are much worse than we thought. Around 83 people suspected of coronavirus are hospitalized in Isfahan. Their test results have still not come in, but you know that from their CT scans, its clear that they have coronavirus. When this number of people are infected, it can be said that more than 12,000 carriers are in the city of Isfahan that don’t know they’re infected.

Two people have died in (inaudible) hospital and four people passed away in al-Zahra Hospital. One person is hospitalized in the Nohe Day Khomeini Hospital which will lead to death. As far as I know, three people are hospitalized in the Yasrebi Hospital in the city of Kashan which will also lead to death. The numbers we have from other cities in the province shows that the spread of the virus is alarming.

From our colleagues among health workers, until now, four residents, one intern and eight nurses are currently hospitalized. Two specialist doctors and one general practitioner were infected in their places of work.

In Tehran, there is a catastrophe. Many of our colleagues in Daneshvari Hospital and Loghman Hospital have been infected and we don’t know how many people are carrying the virus. But one can guess that something terrible is happening.


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BREAKING - U.S. President Trump announces 6pm White House news conference on #COVID19 coronavirus crisis.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: LostRabbit


Thought he said it's all under control? Possibly a reiteration upcoming to calm the $$$ markets?
 Quoting: LostRabbit


We’ll see. 6PM is telling...it’s 2 hours after markets close, which means he’ll have time to adjust his speech to whatever today’s events were. He’s also going to use the address to lean on Congress and get them to immediately pass the funding request.
 Quoting: Larphillips

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I wish it were someone else addressing the nation. A lot of people will discount everything he says solely because it's him. And we don't need that stupidity right now.

6pm eastern time is an odd time for a presidential address. Usually they do 8pm, so it's prime time across the nation. This will be mid-afternoon Pacific time. And practically yesterday in Hawaii.

Odd thing, that.
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Thought he said it's all under control? Possibly a reiteration upcoming to calm the $$$ markets?
 Quoting: LostRabbit


We’ll see. 6PM is telling...it’s 2 hours after markets close, which means he’ll have time to adjust his speech to whatever today’s events were. He’s also going to use the address to lean on Congress and get them to immediately pass the funding request.
 Quoting: Larphillips

 Quoting: miabelieves


I wish it were someone else addressing the nation. A lot of people will discount everything he says solely because it's him. And we don't need that stupidity right now.

6pm eastern time is an odd time for a presidential address. Usually they do 8pm, so it's prime time across the nation. This will be mid-afternoon Pacific time. And practically yesterday in Hawaii.

Odd thing, that.
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Totally agree
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UPDATE :

The number of cases exploding everywhere, are NOT because Iran is infecting the ME and Italy infecting Europe.


The number of cases are exploding BECAUSE the number of infected people in the LAST THREE WEEKS are starting to come out of incubation.



The current model points to an overload of the healthcare systems in Europe and the U.S. to start around mid-March, with Hong Kong, Singapore and Japan to start feeling the pressure at the end of February.


This is happening, RIGHT NOW. South Korean healthcare system is close to breaking-down. And it's almost end of February, as predicted by the model.


Europe is next. By the end of next week, several European countries healthcare systems will start to overload.

By mid-March, the U.S. will start to experience the same overload.

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We’ll see. 6PM is telling...it’s 2 hours after markets close, which means he’ll have time to adjust his speech to whatever today’s events were. He’s also going to use the address to lean on Congress and get them to immediately pass the funding request.
 Quoting: Larphillips

 Quoting: miabelieves


I wish it were someone else addressing the nation. A lot of people will discount everything he says solely because it's him. And we don't need that stupidity right now.

6pm eastern time is an odd time for a presidential address. Usually they do 8pm, so it's prime time across the nation. This will be mid-afternoon Pacific time. And practically yesterday in Hawaii.

Odd thing, that.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


Totally agree
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It will probably be closer to 6:30-7:00 when he actually starts to speak.. Has been his M.O. lately.


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Thought he said it's all under control? Possibly a reiteration upcoming to calm the $$$ markets?
 Quoting: LostRabbit


We’ll see. 6PM is telling...it’s 2 hours after markets close, which means he’ll have time to adjust his speech to whatever today’s events were. He’s also going to use the address to lean on Congress and get them to immediately pass the funding request.
 Quoting: Larphillips

 Quoting: miabelieves


I wish it were someone else addressing the nation. A lot of people will discount everything he says solely because it's him. And we don't need that stupidity right now.

6pm eastern time is an odd time for a presidential address. Usually they do 8pm, so it's prime time across the nation. This will be mid-afternoon Pacific time. And practically yesterday in Hawaii.

Odd thing, that.
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If it were good news...Trump would be speaking BEFORE the market closed.
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UPDATE :

The number of cases exploding everywhere, are NOT because Iran is infecting the ME and Italy infecting Europe.


The number of cases are exploding BECAUSE the number of infected people in the LAST THREE WEEKS are starting to come out of incubation.



The current model points to an overload of the healthcare systems in Europe and the U.S. to start around mid-March, with Hong Kong, Singapore and Japan to start feeling the pressure at the end of February.


This is happening, RIGHT NOW. South Korean healthcare system is close to breaking-down. And it's almost end of February, as predicted by the model.


Europe is next. By the end of next week, several European countries healthcare systems will start to overload.

By mid-March, the U.S. will start to experience the same overload.

 Quoting: deplorable recollector




NB, let me know if you don’t want me to bring stuff like this over.
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You're good. I trust your judgement. Thanks!
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We’ll see. 6PM is telling...it’s 2 hours after markets close, which means he’ll have time to adjust his speech to whatever today’s events were. He’s also going to use the address to lean on Congress and get them to immediately pass the funding request.
 Quoting: Larphillips

 Quoting: miabelieves


I wish it were someone else addressing the nation. A lot of people will discount everything he says solely because it's him. And we don't need that stupidity right now.

6pm eastern time is an odd time for a presidential address. Usually they do 8pm, so it's prime time across the nation. This will be mid-afternoon Pacific time. And practically yesterday in Hawaii.

Odd thing, that.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


If it were good news...Trump would be speaking BEFORE the market closed.
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No doubt. I just wonder what the level of badness is, though.
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85 confirmed

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We’ll see. 6PM is telling...it’s 2 hours after markets close, which means he’ll have time to adjust his speech to whatever today’s events were. He’s also going to use the address to lean on Congress and get them to immediately pass the funding request.
 Quoting: Larphillips

 Quoting: miabelieves


I wish it were someone else addressing the nation. A lot of people will discount everything he says solely because it's him. And we don't need that stupidity right now.

6pm eastern time is an odd time for a presidential address. Usually they do 8pm, so it's prime time across the nation. This will be mid-afternoon Pacific time. And practically yesterday in Hawaii.

Odd thing, that.
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If it were good news...Trump would be speaking BEFORE the market closed.
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Ain't that a damn good point
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h/t kiwibird

[link to english.alarabiya.net (secure)]

Dozens of passengers who were allowed off a coronavirus-stricken cruise ship have developed symptoms including fever and will be asked to take tests for the virus, Japan’s health minister said Wednesday.

The government has contacted 813 former passengers of the Diamond Princess. Around 970 were allowed off the boat last week after testing negative for the virus, but several have subsequently been found to be carrying the disease.

The ministry found “45 people had certain symptoms,” health minister Katsunobu Kato told parliament.
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Motherhubbard
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I wonder how all the DP repatriates are doing in the US?
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I don't know about the U.S., but here in Canada, the Eastern Ontario Health Unit gives daily updates on our quarantined Diamond Princess repats via FB...

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
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Ugh. I thought reading Chinese translations was a pain in the ass. Italian sucks. And Korean ain't no joy, either.
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h/t kiwibird

[link to english.alarabiya.net (secure)]

Dozens of passengers who were allowed off a coronavirus-stricken cruise ship have developed symptoms including fever and will be asked to take tests for the virus, Japan’s health minister said Wednesday.

The government has contacted 813 former passengers of the Diamond Princess. Around 970 were allowed off the boat last week after testing negative for the virus, but several have subsequently been found to be carrying the disease.

The ministry found “45 people had certain symptoms,” health minister Katsunobu Kato told parliament.
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Motherhubbard
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I wonder how all the DP repatriates are doing in the US?
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I don't know about the U.S., but here in Canada, the Eastern Ontario Health Unit gives daily updates on our quarantined Diamond Princess repats via FB...

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
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WHAT?!? Keeping the people informed?? How dare they!
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I wish it were someone else addressing the nation. A lot of people will discount everything he says solely because it's him. And we don't need that stupidity right now.

6pm eastern time is an odd time for a presidential address. Usually they do 8pm, so it's prime time across the nation. This will be mid-afternoon Pacific time. And practically yesterday in Hawaii.

Odd thing, that.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


If it were good news...Trump would be speaking BEFORE the market closed.
 Quoting: Colorqube


Ain't that a damn good point
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...but before supermarkets close for the night.
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Motherhubbard
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I wonder how all the DP repatriates are doing in the US?
 Quoting: NawtyBits


I don't know about the U.S., but here in Canada, the Eastern Ontario Health Unit gives daily updates on our quarantined Diamond Princess repats via FB...

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Woodenboat


WHAT?!? Keeping the people informed?? How dare they!
 Quoting: NawtyBits


IKR? It's almost like they care or something.
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I wonder how all the DP repatriates are doing in the US?
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I don't know about the U.S., but here in Canada, the Eastern Ontario Health Unit gives daily updates on our quarantined Diamond Princess repats via FB...

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Woodenboat


WHAT?!? Keeping the people informed?? How dare they!
 Quoting: NawtyBits


IKR? It's almost like they care or something.
 Quoting: Woodenboat


Stupid Canadians aren't playing by the rules. Silly Canadians.
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I have no evidence other than word of mouth with people who come to my business but I was told the other day they have a case of it @usc hospital in isolation and they are keeping it out of the news... love will beat this though, love, and drinking Urine

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Iran: corona-virus could be spreading to prisons: [link to en.radiofarda.com (secure)]
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We’ll see. 6PM is telling...it’s 2 hours after markets close, which means he’ll have time to adjust his speech to whatever today’s events were. He’s also going to use the address to lean on Congress and get them to immediately pass the funding request.
 Quoting: Larphillips

 Quoting: miabelieves


I wish it were someone else addressing the nation. A lot of people will discount everything he says solely because it's him. And we don't need that stupidity right now.

6pm eastern time is an odd time for a presidential address. Usually they do 8pm, so it's prime time across the nation. This will be mid-afternoon Pacific time. And practically yesterday in Hawaii.

Odd thing, that.
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If it were good news...Trump would be speaking BEFORE the market closed.
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Watch the Dow futures during and after his speech. We may have seen nothing yet concerning the stock market!
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Iran: corona-virus could be spreading to prisons: [link to en.radiofarda.com (secure)]
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Reports of coronavirus in three I1ranian prisons: [link to iranwire.com (secure)]
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Well, my face book friends are freaking out.
I sit here and think thank goodness for GLP. We have had a month to know what’s coming!
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Yeah, I have relatives that are "normal sheep" now asking questions. Normies are getting scared.
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A terrifying graph shows how fast the Wuhan coronavirus has spread so far and how close it is to becoming a pandemic

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This is very shady

The pneumonia-like virus — also known as 2019-nCoV — was first discovered in the central Chinese city of Wuhan on December 31.

Nine days later, the state broadcaster China Central Television reported that multiple people who were sick had tested positive for 2019-nCoV
— the first formal identification of the disease.


So China claims to have had a test 9 days after the first infection, but now, the CDC, WHO and China claim that there is no "truly accurate test". Someone is lying.
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The definition of pandemic is a disease that affects lots of people in more than one geographical area. That definition was met by mid January. The refusal to call a spade a spade is Orwellian. It's as if the incompetent world health authorities believe that if they don't name the beast it will just go away.
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I heard from local sources that a number of the quarantined DP folks from Travis are being treated at local hospitals. I don't have a link to share ... I'm in the Bay Area, and a friend is a nurse who conveyed the info. She also said that two Walnut Creek people have been admitted into the hospital and quarantined ... this is all info through the nurse grapevine, so I have to trust it is true. Local TV news did mention a couple of days ago that some patients were being treated in area hospitals, but wouldn't release any more info than that. A hospital in SF was specifically stated (but not which one.)
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If it's in San Fransisco, likely Kaiser Permanente.
 Quoting: girlie45


More likely UCSF for their researching capabilities.





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