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When exactly God created angels is open for debate, but what is known for sure is that God created everything good because God, in His holiness, cannot create something sinful. So when Satan, who was once the angel Lucifer, rebelled against God and fell from heaven (Isaiah 14; Ezekiel 28), one third of the angelic host joined his insurrection (Revelation 12:3-4,9). There is no doubt these fallen angels are now known as the demons.

We know that hell was prepared for the devil and his angels, according to Matthew 25:41: “Then He will say to those on His left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.’” Jesus, by using the possessive word his makes it clear that these angels belong to Satan. Revelation 12:7-9 describes an end-times angelic battle between Michael and "his angels" and the devil and "his angels." From these and similar verses, it is clear that demons and fallen angels are synonymous.

Some reject the idea that the demons are the fallen angels due to the fact that Jude verse 6 declares the angels who sinned to be "bound with everlasting chains." However, it is clear that not all of the angels who sinned are "bound," as Satan is still free (1 Peter 5:8). Why would God imprison the rest of the fallen angels, but allow the leader of the rebellion to remain free? It seems that Jude verse 6 is referring to God confining the fallen angels who rebelled in an additional way, likely the "sons of God" incident in Genesis chapter 6.

The most common alternate explanation for the origin of the demons is that when the Nephilim of Genesis 6 were destroyed in the Flood, their disembodied souls became the demons. While the Bible does not specifically say what happened to the souls of the Nephilim when they were killed, it is unlikely that God would destroy the Nephilim in the Flood only to allow their souls to cause even greater evil as the demons. The most biblically consistent explanation for the origin of the demons is that they are the fallen angels, the angels who rebelled against God with Satan.

"Is Lucifer Satan? Does the fall of Lucifer describe Satan?"

Answer: There is no verse in the Bible that says, “Lucifer is Satan,” but an examination of several passages reveals that Lucifer can be none other than Satan. The fall of Lucifer described in Isaiah 14:12 is likely the same that Jesus referred to in Luke 10:18: "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.” A similar fall is depicted in Ezekiel 28.

Isaiah 14:12–18 describes the fall from heaven of one called “Lucifer,” a name that means “morning star,” “son of the dawn,” “Day Star / Daystar,” or “shining star.” The description of the one referred to shows us it can be none other than Satan. We know from Jesus’ own words in Luke 10 that Satan fell from heaven. So, when Isaiah refers to Lucifer (In Hebrew, helel) being cast down to earth (Isaiah 14:12), it can be none other than Satan. The reason for his fall is found in verses 13 and 14: “You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’” This has always been Satan’s desire—to be God—and it is the very temptation he used in the garden of Eden to get Eve to disobey God: “You shall be as God” (Genesis 3:5).

Ezekiel 28 is another passage thought to refer to Lucifer/Satan. Although it begins with Ezekiel being commanded by God to “take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre” (v. 12), an evil idolatrous king, it soon becomes clear that the passage is referring as well to the power behind that king—Satan. Verse 13 says he was “in Eden, the garden of God.” Clearly, the king of Tyre was never in Eden. Verse 14 says, “You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you.” Apparently, Lucifer/Satan had a position of guardian angel in heaven “among the fiery stones,” thought to be the shining precious jewels that are seen in other descriptions of heaven (Exodus 24:10; Revelation 21:18–21). Since the king of Tyre was never in heaven, either, this can only be describing Lucifer. The rest of the passage describes the reason he was cast out of heaven. Because of his beauty, his heart became proud and his wisdom was corrupted (Ezekiel 28:17). Pride in his perfection, wisdom, and beauty (v. 12) became the source of his downfall, and God threw him to the earth (v. 17). This was witnessed by the Lord Jesus in heaven before His incarnation (Luke 10:18).

To summarize, Lucifer was cast out of heaven for his sin of pride and his desire to be God. Jesus referred to seeing Satan being cast out of heaven. Therefore, we can conclude that Lucifer and Satan are one and the same.
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Yes, demons are fallen angels. Their unimaginable evil has corrupted them into grotesque demonic forms. They are utterly irredeemable.

And some of them have been tasked with a great deception of pretending to be inter-dimensional aliens.

While others are tasked with the deception of pretending to be the ghost spirits of dead people to communicate with and corrupt living humans.

And yet others are tasked with pretending to be 'ascended masters' to lead and guide humans into hell.

While still others are charged with implanting 'memories' into people to make them believe they've been reincarnated.

There are legions of them (in fact 1/3 of all the angels have fallen), and their evil tasks are endless. But their jobs all revolve around deception & the corruption of mankind.

That is their lot in life, as their rebellion against Yahweh was by their own hands and by their own decisions.

But their end is coming. God has a destiny for them. They will not deceive and torment us forever. Time is short for them, and they know it. That's why their activity has been on the rise these last few decades.

And we will see much more deception from them before their time on earth is finished.
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They are dead Nephilim, the children of the fallen ones.
And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits (Angels) and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling. Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men and from the holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin; they shall be evil spirits on earth, and evil spirits shall they be called. [As for the spirits of heaven, in heaven shall be their dwelling, but as for the spirits of the earth which were born upon the earth, on the earth shall be their dwelling.] And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble: they take no food, but nevertheless hunger and thirst, and cause offences. And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from them. From the days of the slaughter and destruction and death of the giants, from the souls of whose flesh the spirits, having gone forth, shall destroy without incurring judgement.
 Quoting: I Enoch 15:8–12, 16:1 R.H. Charles


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And Satan was a cherub, not an angel.
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Yes, demons are fallen angels. Their unimaginable evil has corrupted them into grotesque demonic forms. They are utterly irredeemable.

And some of them have been tasked with a great deception of pretending to be inter-dimensional aliens.

While others are tasked with the deception of pretending to be the ghost spirits of dead people to communicate with and corrupt living humans.

And yet others are tasked with pretending to be 'ascended masters' to lead and guide humans into hell.

While still others are charged with implanting 'memories' into people to make them believe they've been reincarnated.

There are legions of them (in fact 1/3 of all the angels have fallen), and their evil tasks are endless. But their jobs all revolve around deception & the corruption of mankind.

That is their lot in life, as their rebellion against Yahweh was by their own hands and by their own decisions.

But their end is coming. God has a destiny for them. They will not deceive and torment us forever. Time is short for them, and they know it. That's why their activity has been on the rise these last few decades.

And we will see much more deception from them before their time on earth is finished.
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Well said!
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There are boundaries set by the LORD himself with Fallen Angels and what they are allowed.

When a Fallen Angel has crossed this line the ability to
be in the physical world we understand is taken away.

This is what is then called a demon.
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No they are not. Demons existed before angels. When angels fall they become human. Read Isaiah 14 it tells you Lucifer became a human being when he fell from the heights.
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Demons come from the earth, fallen Angel's come from heaven. The difference is inconsequential.
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No. They are the offspring of fallen angels that were born unto women and killed by the flood. Their spirits are not of heaven nor of earth and so they are cursed to roam the earth as demons until Jesus returns.

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No. They are the offspring of fallen angels that were born unto women and killed by the flood. Their spirits are not of heaven nor of earth and so they are cursed to roam the earth as demons until Jesus returns.
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this is correct explanation
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Re: Are demons fallen angels?
Yup. Most likely titans from Greek mythology as well.
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Re: Are demons fallen angels?
Angels and demons are the same things, and they are forces or archetypes, some are positive and some are negative.

They are often depicted as humans with wings in art.

The two major names are Jesus Christ for the positive force of this world and Lucifer for the negative force of this world.

This world is the combo world and features both positive and negative forces.

The aether is the positive only world and the astral is the negative only world.

Mysticism is the actual religion of this world. Humans are activated, and then choose between good and evil. Souls are recycled again and again until they do something that gets their dna activated.

Once they have decided, the person works towards becoming a force, god, or deity themselves. Once there is a winner, the earth is reset and starts over. We are currently in the sixth time of man.

Your behavior does not matter to the universe. Typically people choose evil because they get the instant rewards and magick in this life, but suffer in the next. If you choose good, you suffer in this life but thrive in the next.

If a person comes up with an original idea, they can become the archetype of that. For example, I am the archetype of canvassing flyers. Although canvassing flyers has been around as a means of advertising for a long time, there is no archetype for it.

I thoroughly enjoy passing out flyers door to door. I cannot tell if I am on earth or in heaven when I do it. So when I die, I will become the angel of canvassing and I can either bless or disrupt people and their own flyers in the next life. Some people will think I'm an angel and some will think I'm a demon. It's really about their perspective.
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The stance and stare of a wolf you find yourself alone with will tell you that he is prepared to treat you as you would treat him. Whether that comforts or frightens you, he has told you all you need know about both.
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They are dead Nephilim, the children of the fallen ones.
And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits (Angels) and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling. Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men and from the holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin; they shall be evil spirits on earth, and evil spirits shall they be called. [As for the spirits of heaven, in heaven shall be their dwelling, but as for the spirits of the earth which were born upon the earth, on the earth shall be their dwelling.] And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble: they take no food, but nevertheless hunger and thirst, and cause offences. And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from them. From the days of the slaughter and destruction and death of the giants, from the souls of whose flesh the spirits, having gone forth, shall destroy without incurring judgement.
 Quoting: I Enoch 15:8–12, 16:1 R.H. Charles

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No. They are the offspring of fallen angels that were born unto women and killed by the flood. Their spirits are not of heaven nor of earth and so they are cursed to roam the earth as demons until Jesus returns.
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This ^^^^^
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No. They are the offspring of fallen angels that were born unto women and killed by the flood. Their spirits are not of heaven nor of earth and so they are cursed to roam the earth as demons until Jesus returns.
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This ^^^^^
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No. They are the offspring of fallen angels that were born unto women and killed by the flood. Their spirits are not of heaven nor of earth and so they are cursed to roam the earth as demons until Jesus returns.
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This ^^^^^
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+1
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No not this .. angels do not procreate offspring... they have no penis or vagina... sorry on that one. This is stupid and it must stop. HUMANS procreate because of animal heritage.
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Angels and demons are the same things, and they are forces or archetypes, some are positive and some are negative.

They are often depicted as humans with wings in art.

The two major names are Jesus Christ for the positive force of this world and Lucifer for the negative force of this world.

This world is the combo world and features both positive and negative forces.

The aether is the positive only world and the astral is the negative only world.

Mysticism is the actual religion of this world. Humans are activated, and then choose between good and evil. Souls are recycled again and again until they do something that gets their dna activated.

Once they have decided, the person works towards becoming a force, god, or deity themselves. Once there is a winner, the earth is reset and starts over. We are currently in the sixth time of man.

Your behavior does not matter to the universe. Typically people choose evil because they get the instant rewards and magick in this life, but suffer in the next. If you choose good, you suffer in this life but thrive in the next.

If a person comes up with an original idea, they can become the archetype of that. For example, I am the archetype of canvassing flyers. Although canvassing flyers has been around as a means of advertising for a long time, there is no archetype for it.

I thoroughly enjoy passing out flyers door to door. I cannot tell if I am on earth or in heaven when I do it. So when I die, I will become the angel of canvassing and I can either bless or disrupt people and their own flyers in the next life. Some people will think I'm an angel and some will think I'm a demon. It's really about their perspective.
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No and more no and more NO NO NO ...

everything you wrote here is ERROR... Lucifer is not even here.. he was removed when Christ Jesus washere and you don't even know who Jesus is and was.. now do you? You are reproducing NON SENSE.
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And Satan was a cherub, not an angel.
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A god of music

The most beautiful of all

Fell and became a dragon
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No. They are the offspring of fallen angels that were born unto women and killed by the flood. Their spirits are not of heaven nor of earth and so they are cursed to roam the earth as demons until Jesus returns.
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Interesting theory

The facts are true and revealed in Genesis

Just read the entire Old Testament again

It’s a fascinating read

Life changing actually
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Oh son of the morning

He said in his heart

I shall ascend

I shall be like the most High
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NO. Demons are the SONS of the fallen angels and the human whomen. They they were killed turing the great flood, but because of there 50% angelic genetic there are living further as "ghosts" or "polterghost"
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And Satan was a cherub, not an angel.
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A god of music

The most beautiful of all

Fell and became a dragon
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Not truth either.. cherubs ARE angels.... Satan was not a cherub ... he IS.... a lanonandek son of Michael Christ Jesus as WAS Lucifer. I say WAS on lucifer because he was removed 2000 years ago.. faced this tried and chose to be obliterated. He is no more.

Satan was and is no god of music... you ones are hugely uneducated about the truth.

Read about the local universe sons of god here..

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Read about the LUcifer rebellion here... [link to www.urantia.org (secure)] and the problems with it in the next paper... #54.

It is time to educate yourselves in this thread.. because OPs post is garbage too!Love to you 2

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Shills are so annoying

With their gigantic retarded posts

Influencing no one

The truth will have its day

Every knee will bow

Every tongue will confess

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Re: Are demons fallen angels?
No. They are the offspring of fallen angels that were born unto women and killed by the flood. Their spirits are not of heaven nor of earth and so they are cursed to roam the earth as demons until Jesus returns.
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This ^^^^^
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+1
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No not this .. angels do not procreate offspring... they have no penis or vagina... sorry on that one. This is stupid and it must stop. HUMANS procreate because of animal heritage.
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Wrong again. Read the dead sea scrolls. You're highly uneducated and completely irrelevant. You can't make any points if you don't have any research. You can't just tell us what God tells you in your heart. That's the devil. Not God. Have a nice day!

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yeah, and Obama is gonna put a microchip in my forehead any day now

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This ^^^^^
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+1
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No not this .. angels do not procreate offspring... they have no penis or vagina... sorry on that one. This is stupid and it must stop. HUMANS procreate because of animal heritage.
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Wrong again. Read the dead sea scrolls. You're highly uneducated and completely irrelevant. You can't make any points if you don't have any research. You can't just tell us what God tells you in your heart. That's the devil. Not God. Have a nice day!
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No. They are the offspring of fallen angels that were born unto women and killed by the flood. Their spirits are not of heaven nor of earth and so they are cursed to roam the earth as demons until Jesus returns.
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This is right. Just read the book of Enoch and it is well explained that the offspring of the fallen are demons.





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