programming the archetypes | |
BlueGreen&Red+Yellow User ID: 78373635 Australia 01/23/2020 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thinking in geometry.... and layers and contexts as shapes. Learning how metal works in the form of music or writing. Like writing metal. Just scratching the surface. A VERY GOOD TIME to start putting your foot in the door - they called them crazes back in the heyday - its that time again. Because there are new schools of thought to denominate. hi if u have account for sale what up dog |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77743250 United States 01/23/2020 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
BlueGreen&Red+Yellow User ID: 78373635 Australia 01/23/2020 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First, you kick them out of choir, the rest falls into place naturally. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77743250 This reminds me of how I would create game ideas when I used to make games on Flash. I would play a few games on sites and then plot out a way to combine styles to make a sort of hybrid. Or you see a REALLY good idea (u reminded me) and its like, nah thats crap. Then you steal the idea. hi if u have account for sale what up dog |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78375226 United States 01/23/2020 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Centurionx User ID: 10904919 United States 01/23/2020 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
callit User ID: 74014895 United States 01/23/2020 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78120559 Canada 01/23/2020 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have any of you ever considered how to change the collective on a massive level? Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye some people call them archetypes, others call them egregores Everybody in society gives rise to collective thoughtforms When ideas impress themselves on a massive group of people, ideas have powers that you could never imagine That's why some corporations have as much influence as they do. Even beyond the money they have, they market something different: the idea that they represent in consciousness All storytellers know this, all shamans know this, and in a world devoid of spiritual understandings... Well, it's a playground for chaos magick, or for psychologist shaman Welcome to a higher level of awareness of ONE. Beyond your ego, you are those archetypes and because of that you have access to them. First you have personal archetypes that you must reconcile with the truth and let go of false beliefs. "Money is hard to get" > "Money comes to me easily" Changing subconscious archetypes can be difficult depending on how embedded the belief is. Repetition works wonders but you may need to repeat this to yourself 100 times daily for years before you finally overwrite the old "program" and create a new subconscious groove. Once you have a level of mastery over your own ego and personal archetypes, your control over your consciousness will manifest in a personal way in the outer. This will then guide you into the COLLECTIVE TRUTH. The collective has there own false beliefs and archetypes. By transcending your own little personal bubble of false beliefs you will reach a level of Truth. This Truth resonates in the mind of the collective consciousness of mankind. If you can let go of your ego and all your false beliefs you will find the TRUE SELF. From this higher self connection you will find you have influence over other parts of yourself (those other people in the dream) who are locked in false belief systems. As you show them Light of Truth, those who are ready will recognize the Truth either consciously or subconsciously and One by One the idea will spread. This is the collective will of mankind which is more in tune with the will of the Supreme Mind of G-d. This is why only a humble and pure HEART can enter these gates. A HEART filled with lies and ego is not permitted to pass by the very nature of Truth that we are all ONE. When One has reached this level of awareness and knows beyond any doubt that all is ONE and a reflection of the deepest "I", then One can bring forth Truth and plant it as a seed in the collective consciousness. These seeds grow and new paradigms of thought are born. Mind is the most potent force in existence becasue all is mental in nature. The time has come for Truth to be revealed per Divine Will (Revelations) and those in tune with the Truth act as catalysts to spread this Truth throughout the collective mind. The Truth will automatically banish all false beliefs (false archetypes) when it is encountered as surely as darkness recedes when Light is revealed. When this alchemical process of the transformation of awareness is complete, a New Earth and a New Heaven will be born from mankind's paradigm of New Collective Beliefs. For what is objective reality but a set of agreed upon shared beliefs? Very good... keep going... |
callit User ID: 74014895 United States 01/23/2020 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
callit User ID: 74014895 United States 01/23/2020 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
syncro User ID: 75835116 United States 01/23/2020 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by syncro on 01/23/2020 06:23 PM |
Centurionx User ID: 4140572 United States 01/24/2020 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
callit User ID: 73843994 United States 01/24/2020 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with that but even more so, how many lifetimes does it take to change our own inner collective? It is a universe in itself. The outer are just projections of it. Not that we don't play some role of influence if it presents itself and we are in that ability. Not that we don't share and help. But I think the inner is the real work, and that done, there is no outer that is not equally changed, because it's in our own eye. Quoting: syncro |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78090291 United States 01/27/2020 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with that but even more so, how many lifetimes does it take to change our own inner collective? It is a universe in itself. The outer are just projections of it. Not that we don't play some role of influence if it presents itself and we are in that ability. Not that we don't share and help. But I think the inner is the real work, and that done, there is no outer that is not equally changed, because it's in our own eye. Quoting: syncro "Saving one person is like saving the whole world..." "Destroying one person is like destroying the whole world..." There is a universe in each of us. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78397272 United States 01/27/2020 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77957449 United States 01/27/2020 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Egregores are tulpas; thought forms and are created by and are projected from the living. Archetypes are not created by the living and are pre- existent. The Archetypes exist in the highest divine plane as blueprints for the lower creation. They are God's thoughtforms. The Adam Kadmon in an archtype. Being pre existent archetypes can not be programmed, but they can be embodied. Egregores can of course be programed, but even tulpas and egregores can act and grow beyond the control and well being of their creators. |
Centurionx User ID: 6784969 United States 01/27/2020 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with that but even more so, how many lifetimes does it take to change our own inner collective? It is a universe in itself. The outer are just projections of it. Not that we don't play some role of influence if it presents itself and we are in that ability. Not that we don't share and help. But I think the inner is the real work, and that done, there is no outer that is not equally changed, because it's in our own eye. Quoting: syncro "Saving one person is like saving the whole world..." "Destroying one person is like destroying the whole world..." There is a universe in each of us. Absotively Hmmmm... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78090291 United States 01/27/2020 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Archetypes and egregores are not the same thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77957449 Egregores are tulpas; thought forms and are created by and are projected from the living. Archetypes are not created by the living and are pre- existent. The Archetypes exist in the highest divine plane as blueprints for the lower creation. They are God's thoughtforms. The Adam Kadmon in an archtype. Being pre existent archetypes can not be programmed, but they can be embodied. Egregores can of course be programed, but even tulpas and egregores can act and grow beyond the control and well being of their creators. I agree that egregores are artificial and generally created by a magician of some kind and that archetypes are more ancient and far more powerful. I also agree certainly that archetypes can be embodied, as this is a specialty of mine, "channeling". But, I don't know if I agree that archetypes can't be programmed. Archetypes take on different forms at different points in history and depending on the needs of a civilization, and part of how this manifests is in the mind of the collective. Part of what the "ruling elite" have been doing for eons is ruling the archetypes and imposing an artificial constraint upon the consciousness of the masses |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74973573 United Kingdom 01/27/2020 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Archetypes and egregores are not the same thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77957449 Egregores are tulpas; thought forms and are created by and are projected from the living. Archetypes are not created by the living and are pre- existent. The Archetypes exist in the highest divine plane as blueprints for the lower creation. They are God's thoughtforms. The Adam Kadmon in an archtype. Being pre existent archetypes can not be programmed, but they can be embodied. Egregores can of course be programed, but even tulpas and egregores can act and grow beyond the control and well being of their creators. And who are you to dictate what G-d can and cannot do? You said yourself that archetypes and egregores are BOTH thought forms. We are all connected to G-d and through G-d all things are possible. Sounds to me like you not only contradicted yourself but you also blaspheme when you decide what G-d is capable of through us. If G-d so willed it, a single mind could not only alter every "egregore" (which is simply an archetypal program running in the background) but a single mind could revolutionize the entirety of the universal physical plane. Such is the omnipotent power of a supreme and Omnipotent Mind. Doubt it not! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70663772 United States 01/27/2020 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I realized that everyone else in this collective is preoccupied with having power of influence over others, I decided it a better idea to concern myself with how to change it by removing myself from it. I am fully aware of the choice made that led to me being a part of this world, just don't fully understand what it was that was envisioned to be gained from said choice. Perhaps that's it in a nutshell - to learn how to leave so that I may come and go wherever, whenever I please. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78090291 United States 01/27/2020 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I realized that everyone else in this collective is preoccupied with having power of influence over others, I decided it a better idea to concern myself with how to change it by removing myself from it. Quoting: deafcat I am fully aware of the choice made that led to me being a part of this world, just don't fully understand what it was that was envisioned to be gained from said choice. Perhaps that's it in a nutshell - to learn how to leave so that I may come and go wherever, whenever I please. The way I see it, I'm out of here when I die. That was my main takeaway from that lucid dream and what I've intuitively known for awhile. As long as I don't get too bogged down karmatically, I was not really meant to be human anyway. And when I die I'll go back to the different form of existence I was before, so I'm not feeling overly hurried about it. There's one distinct memory I have from before I was born. It was my spirit guide standing over me, asking if I was sure that I wanted to be born. And I guess I agreed. Then I remember this descent into matter, the material. I know, not only from that but from what my spirit guide told me as I got a bit older, that the only reason I'm here is to do something for the consciousness of humankind. I don't know what that is, and I suppose if I fail then I fail. But I ought to try my damndest, I figure. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78090291 United States 01/27/2020 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Archetypes and egregores are not the same thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77957449 Egregores are tulpas; thought forms and are created by and are projected from the living. Archetypes are not created by the living and are pre- existent. The Archetypes exist in the highest divine plane as blueprints for the lower creation. They are God's thoughtforms. The Adam Kadmon in an archtype. Being pre existent archetypes can not be programmed, but they can be embodied. Egregores can of course be programed, but even tulpas and egregores can act and grow beyond the control and well being of their creators. And who are you to dictate what G-d can and cannot do? You said yourself that archetypes and egregores are BOTH thought forms. We are all connected to G-d and through G-d all things are possible. Sounds to me like you not only contradicted yourself but you also blaspheme when you decide what G-d is capable of through us. If G-d so willed it, a single mind could not only alter every "egregore" (which is simply an archetypal program running in the background) but a single mind could revolutionize the entirety of the universal physical plane. Such is the omnipotent power of a supreme and Omnipotent Mind. Doubt it not! The question isn't so much whether God could, but whether God would. When I think about it, I have a feeling God is curious what humans will do, and which ones will "ascend". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76029236 United States 01/27/2020 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Totally agree OP. Words, memes...are magick. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Even from a philosophical standpoint, Plato's Allegory of the Cave indicates that what we perceive and experience isn't necessarily real, just what is presented to us. What is forced upon us. Once you wake up and walk out of the cave, experience is never the same, it is so much more... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76029236 United States 01/27/2020 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78370239 Australia 01/27/2020 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78398728 Ireland 01/27/2020 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78090291 United States 01/27/2020 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76029236 United States 01/27/2020 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78090291 United States 01/27/2020 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77957449 United States 01/27/2020 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Archetypes and egregores are not the same thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77957449 Egregores are tulpas; thought forms and are created by and are projected from the living. Archetypes are not created by the living and are pre- existent. The Archetypes exist in the highest divine plane as blueprints for the lower creation. They are God's thoughtforms. The Adam Kadmon in an archtype. Being pre existent archetypes can not be programmed, but they can be embodied. Egregores can of course be programed, but even tulpas and egregores can act and grow beyond the control and well being of their creators. I agree that egregores are artificial and generally created by a magician of some kind and that archetypes are more ancient and far more powerful. I also agree certainly that archetypes can be embodied, as this is a specialty of mine, "channeling". But, I don't know if I agree that archetypes can't be programmed. Archetypes take on different forms at different points in history and depending on the needs of a civilization, and part of how this manifests is in the mind of the collective. Part of what the "ruling elite" have been doing for eons is ruling the archetypes and imposing an artificial constraint upon the consciousness of the masses Though you are correct that the masks that the archetypes wear change, the internal spirit; the core attributes of the archetype never change. And as far as changing archetypes one would have to ascend to the divine plane, which would require one to merge with the Adam Kadmon the human archetype. At that point one would have the power to alter and change the archetypes, but would one still have the desire to? I ask that because on the divine plane the archetypes are not at odds or detrimental to each other, they all function and flow in harmony and order, it is only further down in the ladder so to speak that disorder has infected the system. And very nice thread and discussion Op. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78090291 United States 01/27/2020 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Archetypes and egregores are not the same thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77957449 Egregores are tulpas; thought forms and are created by and are projected from the living. Archetypes are not created by the living and are pre- existent. The Archetypes exist in the highest divine plane as blueprints for the lower creation. They are God's thoughtforms. The Adam Kadmon in an archtype. Being pre existent archetypes can not be programmed, but they can be embodied. Egregores can of course be programed, but even tulpas and egregores can act and grow beyond the control and well being of their creators. I agree that egregores are artificial and generally created by a magician of some kind and that archetypes are more ancient and far more powerful. I also agree certainly that archetypes can be embodied, as this is a specialty of mine, "channeling". But, I don't know if I agree that archetypes can't be programmed. Archetypes take on different forms at different points in history and depending on the needs of a civilization, and part of how this manifests is in the mind of the collective. Part of what the "ruling elite" have been doing for eons is ruling the archetypes and imposing an artificial constraint upon the consciousness of the masses Though you are correct that the masks that the archetypes wear change, the internal spirit; the core attributes of the archetype never change. And as far as changing archetypes one would have to ascend to the divine plane, which would require one to merge with the Adam Kadmon the human archetype. At that point one would have the power to alter and change the archetypes, but would one still have the desire to? I ask that because on the divine plane the archetypes are not at odds or detrimental to each other, they all function and flow in harmony and order, it is only further down in the ladder so to speak that disorder has infected the system. And very nice thread and discussion Op. Thanks. I do see your point. I've always figured that the archetypes adapt and change depending on the collective spirit of humanity. What one wonders, then, is what the collective spirit of humanity is composed of. I mentioned this elsewhere, but while we are all cocreators of reality (well, I believe this, that each consciousness contributes to the material world we experience) we are not all endowed equally in consciousness. Yes, the degree of consciousness can be expanded between lifetimes, or even within a single lifetime if sufficiently awakened, but as it stands, some have more influence over the collective spirit. I think the world, in some ways, bends for them, so long as their spirit is in harmony with the intentions of the universe. |