WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

So China lied...but NOW they indeed lifted a quarantine in Wuhan(judging from a traffic site); I thought China would "collapse" according to OP but it never happened, although they had a horrible period. We could wait and see for another month.
We are worse off here in Europe, it's more of an attack on the economy...

I'd say a clear indicator of how long this scourge is going to last lies in how many new masks/ventilators are being cranked out right now. Hundreds of thousands of masks per week, and 110,000 new ventilators by June have been promised. By June, tens of millions of masks should be available.. but WHY would they be needed?

NOW: if the magical curves do flatten in the next few weeks as has been predicted, there shouldn't logically be a need to build up such a vast inventory - UNLESS they know that DR's model suggesting 12 waves coming every 45 days is accurate.

As always with governments, don't LISTEN to what they say, but instead WATCH what they do!

OP, first off, thank you so much for your work and efforts. I wouldn't be as ready if it wasn't because of you. Thank you!!!

I have also crunched the numbers on my own though, and they don't add up in my humble opinion. There are entire countries that should be almost empty by now. My hypothesis is that there are 2 strands, one is an extremely contagious strand that gives you mild flu symptoms and another strain that kills you but is not necessarily related to the first strand at all. It wouldn't matter to the numbers if this second strand is being sprayed from mosquito trucks, or if it's in the water or 5g activated or a natural occurrence, but it sure looks like two strands could explain its crazy behavior. What contagion behavior would you consider indicative of multiple strands (or multiple different bioweapons)? Why isn't everyone already dead in Sweden, Thailand, Vietnam, India or central African countries? I don't get it, shouldn't Sweden's death toll be MUCH worse than Italy's and Spain's by now? Something's wrong. In my opinion it seems too localized, not consistent, seems purposely done, almost like if following a schedule. Almost too convenient (Italy and Spain would be the two countries that could cause the demise of the Euro, and UK and US would destroy multiple other economies when falling.

Don't you get the feeling that there's something off with the numbers? They're not consistent. To me it looks like one of those controlled demolitions of buildings, but this building they're taking down is the global financial system.

Sweden will be very interesting IMO due to their approach of herd immunity. Right now I'm looking at Sweden's numbers and compare them to the UK as they followed a similar approach in the beginning. Compare Sweden's numbers now (7693 infected/591 deaths on Apr 7) with UK's numbers on March 26th (11658 infected/578 deaths). It's very similar, Sweden is just lagging behind and the UK's higher infection rate can be explained by more testing. Sweden probably only tests the severe and/or hospitalized cases. Their numbers may also rise a bit slower because their population is less dense but so far I would say their approach to shield the vulnerable part of the population isn't going so well.

As for the 2 strains, I don't really think this is necessary. There is so much unknown about this virus and even the rumors about "mild flu symptoms" are not necessarily true. For some people yes, but a lot of people that have had the "mild version" so far have reported that it's anything but mild, it's been the worse disease they had so far for a lot of them, it's nothing to take lightly.

You also have to keep in mind there are certain groups of people with underlying health conditions that are more likely to get the worse outcome.

There have however been quite a few people in the 30-60 age rage, some even younger who are healthy and still have to be hospitalized, sometimes even resulting in death.

There could however be a genetic factor that we just don't know about yet.

DR, I think this is the game changer - read the entire article on the twitter link, it pulls all the puzzle pieces together and gives us the picture on the puzzle box. I tried to link the article directly, but GLP won't let it post.

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Ready for the second wave?

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I think I got this theory because I'm pretty sure I got it. Both me and my wife got sick with "a" flu beginning of February. It was mild and it was unusual at the same time. Didn't feel like a normal flu at all. You're right, time will tell. Thanks for the insight on Sweden's numbers! I would have thought they were toast by mid March without a lockdown.

That article mentions exactly what I was saying. False negatives. It's also from February so a lot was unknown then. They even talk of 5 or 6 negative tests before the correct result came back.
In the study they did with lab monkeys they tried to reinfect them and their antibodies prevented a second infection. I don't think they used a lot of test subjects though so a study would have to be done on a broader scale.

It's true that we don't know how long immunity will last but for now I believe the "reinfection stories" are simply the result of false negatives, they were never virus free.

Guess we'll know for sure in the coming weeks as a lot of people have recovered in Europe and the US already.

The expected tsunami of hospitalization cases around the world is (so far) failing to materialize according to various models being used by the government in various countries.

Definitely something is not fitting in this puzzle. China's reaction back in January is somewhat consistent with the initial claim that the about 20% of those infected would require medical care. That would indeed be something capable of bringing about a clusterfuck regardless of goverment actions.

It's as if the virus is losing it's power as it spreads....or there is a substantially different strain that is slower to spread.... something.... because the initial premise of ~20% needing hospitalization clear is not being consubstantiated across the board. In some very few places yes... but far from being consistent.

if you look at the videos of empty city streets from around the world, you could think that the virus is going away, however once these "stay at home" orders are lifted there will be a second wave.

All of the governments are pushing the same narrative now, "We've caused the impact of the virus to be weakened ", but more likely is that they are trading lives for their economies.

There was an article released today that suggests you may be right about reinfection:

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It says that about 30% of people did not develop enough antibodies to prevent reinfection, some had none at all.

The reinfection issue if far from discarded yet:

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This virus situation is proving to be very elusive, very difficult to discern clear patterns based on proven-constants/variables and so on.

if you look at the videos of empty city streets from around the world, you could think that the virus is going away, however once these "stay at home" orders are lifted there will be a second wave.

All of the governments are pushing the same narrative now, "We've caused the impact of the virus to be weakened ", but more likely is that they are trading lives for their economies.

The government is not separate from the people, there is no such thing as "their economy". If the government fails to save the economy, the people will not die of the virus, but will starve to death. A compromise must be found between preserving people from the virus without killing the economy. The mistake of this thread from the beginning is to establish that the people can live indefinitely without economics, that does not exist, if everyone confines themselves at the same time, there will be no food in supermarkets, there will be no fuel, there will be no energy, etc. There is no such thing as "trading lives for their economy". Yes, the virus is serious, but a dead economy is even more serious, and we are past the time when the economy can no longer be reestablished, it will be the end of humanity as we know, a real silent killing of the lower classes is being prepared, these people depend on work and, without work, they will die, not thousands, but millions.

Here they come .................

The expected tsunami of hospitalization cases around the world is (so far) failing to materialize according to various models being used by the government in various countries.

Definitely something is not fitting in this puzzle. China's reaction back in January is somewhat consistent with the initial claim that the about 20% of those infected would require medical care. That would indeed be something capable of bringing about a clusterfuck regardless of goverment actions.

It's as if the virus is losing it's power as it spreads....or there is a substantially different strain that is slower to spread.... something.... because the initial premise of ~20% needing hospitalization clear is not being consubstantiated across the board. In some very few places yes... but far from being consistent.

Where? half of the US is on shelter-in-place orders. So how can you even tell it is losing its power? LOL

Death projections for the US continue to decline. Here is the one many are watching:

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Seems to me the Asian Flu in the 1950's was much more deadly.

As far as ending the lock downs in the U.S. and letting everyone go back to work, to what extent is that even possible with the disruption to the supply chain (i.e. China)???