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Europe is going to hit 150k new cases today.


October 15th, the beginning of SHTF.
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You were right on the money. So glad to have this thread in these times.
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I agree, Veg.
Waiting for the inflection point of no return....
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Well, this is going to be awful.

DR's work has been pretty spot on thus far.

With such a track record, his analysis must be taken very seriously.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


Can I ask you and everyone else on here a serious question? Not trolling, I assure you.

If the MSM/China, media, et al never mentioned coronavirus/COVID-19 and you were none the wiser that it actually existed (assuming it does), would you have noticed something was afoot?

I strongly believe the majority of the world population would not.
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Me?

Yes.

It nearly killed my brother. Have had other family member quite ill.

Killed a girl I went to HS with. No underlying conditions. She was fine one day, dead 2 days later.
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Hi all from middle EU - Czech Republic.

Number of hospitalized in log scale vs. date
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Clearly exponential, doubling every 9-10 days. Will keep rising at least for two weeks from now...

We are in deep sh*t, hospitals will run out of capacity soon. Field hospitals being built.

Government lifted up almost all restrictions during summer, kids went back to school without masks. Since yesterday all schools except kindergardens are closed.

It is long story here...

Keep safe everyone!
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Hi all from middle EU - Czech Republic.

Number of hospitalized in log scale vs. date
[link to imgur.com (secure)]

Clearly exponential, doubling every 9-10 days. Will keep rising at least for two weeks from now...

We are in deep sh*t, hospitals will run out of capacity soon. Field hospitals being built.

Government lifted up almost all restrictions during summer, kids went back to school without masks. Since yesterday all schools except kindergardens are closed.

It is long story here...

Keep safe everyone!
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Thanks for the first-hand info. You stay safe and healthy!
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One small addendum, since I see many people arguing that we test now more.


Do we test more today then back in March? Yes, absolutely. About 3 times more.

Do we test more today then 6 weeks ago? No, we don't.


6 weeks ago, Europe daily new cases were under 40k.

Today, we will hit 150k.

A 4 times increase in cases in 6 weeks. Talk about exponential, something that most people still don't understand.


The new daily cases in 2 weeks from now will be in the range of 250k, in Europe. And that is an optimistic number.


We are now, at the beginning of second wave and cold season, ABOVE with the PEAK of first wave, in most European countries.

I will triple the peaks in Spring, to account for 3 times more testing :


The 7 day moving average in France was peaking in the spring at 4,537. Triple that and we get 13,611. It is 17,936 yesterday.

U.K. : 4,999. Triple that. 15,000. They were yesterday at
15,766.

Belgium : 1,453, triple that to 4,359. They were yesterday at 5,564.

Netherlands : 1,120, tripled to 3,360. They were yesterday at 6,596.

Romania, Poland, Ukraine, Czechia...MUCH WORSE then that.


Only Italy makes an exception...but they will quickly catch up, because exponential factor. They were couple weeks behind a month ago, they are now maybe a week behind.


It started guys. Make no mistake about it.
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I think politicians/countries have no other choice than full lockdown like right now, because otherwise will be full on massacre!
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Well, this is going to be awful.

DR's work has been pretty spot on thus far.

With such a track record, his analysis must be taken very seriously.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


Can I ask you and everyone else on here a serious question? Not trolling, I assure you.

If the MSM/China, media, et al never mentioned coronavirus/COVID-19 and you were none the wiser that it actually existed (assuming it does), would you have noticed something was afoot?

I strongly believe the majority of the world population would not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77746841



Yes, those living in Madrid, Lombardy, NYC, Sao Paolo, Mumbai would have seen something is going on.

Hospitals being full. Quarantines. You know, the things you SEE, regardless if anyone tells you about that.


Happy?
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


It's not a matter of being happy.

The few jam packed hospitals you saw in NYC were small in size. Also, the majority of deaths came from nursing home patients that were likely murdered/poisoned.

Have you been to any of the cities you mentioned above since the pandemic? I've been to two of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77746841



You should follow on Twitter some of the physicians who worked in those hospitals in NYC. And talk to the MCW working in Wisconsin right now. They are building field hospitals. Stop trying to down play this!
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Thanks DR.

Always good to read your updates.

As you predicted in your update on the 10th or 12th
That the deaths are not the issue but sick people are.

Livepool uni today said hospitals are strugging for staff along with other services. Due to sick and having to isolate.

Called it again.

I wonder at what point does society start to crumble.
 Quoting: Covid19sars2.0


Cases don't matter.

The only stat that matters is death count.

When have you ever been tested for a cold in your existance?

When have you ever heard someone exclaim they've "tested positive" for a cold?

Am I in a different reality?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77746841


Yes, you are in a different reality. The reality of denial. And yes, I know people who are positive for this NOVEL virus. Many are very sick. Stop calling it a cold.
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One small addendum, since I see many people arguing that we test now more.


Do we test more today then back in March? Yes, absolutely. About 3 times more.

Do we test more today then 6 weeks ago? No, we don't.


6 weeks ago, Europe daily new cases were under 40k.

Today, we will hit 150k.

A 4 times increase in cases in 6 weeks. Talk about exponential, something that most people still don't understand.


The new daily cases in 2 weeks from now will be in the range of 250k, in Europe. And that is an optimistic number.


We are now, at the beginning of second wave and cold season, ABOVE with the PEAK of first wave, in most European countries.

I will triple the peaks in Spring, to account for 3 times more testing :


The 7 day moving average in France was peaking in the spring at 4,537. Triple that and we get 13,611. It is 17,936 yesterday.

U.K. : 4,999. Triple that. 15,000. They were yesterday at
15,766.

Belgium : 1,453, triple that to 4,359. They were yesterday at 5,564.

Netherlands : 1,120, tripled to 3,360. They were yesterday at 6,596.

Romania, Poland, Ukraine, Czechia...MUCH WORSE then that.


Only Italy makes an exception...but they will quickly catch up, because exponential factor. They were couple weeks behind a month ago, they are now maybe a week behind.


It started guys. Make no mistake about it.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


So true....
Sad that those trends were obvious far more than month ago and government could prepare and put more restrictions in advance.

We do 20-30k tests/day (population 10M), positive rate 25%!!! The viral load is simply extreme...

Don't know how in Romania, but here in Czech everyone was happy during summer, parties, virus went off. Government saying everything is OK just few weeks ago..

Tracing system failed here, you've got call 5 days after being tested positive. They did not increase tracing capacity during summer.

Some professors warned, showing that there is already exponential trend with all of its consequenses. Nobody listened...

Not good :(
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Can I ask you and everyone else on here a serious question? Not trolling, I assure you.

If the MSM/China, media, et al never mentioned coronavirus/COVID-19 and you were none the wiser that it actually existed (assuming it does), would you have noticed something was afoot?

I strongly believe the majority of the world population would not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77746841



Yes, those living in Madrid, Lombardy, NYC, Sao Paolo, Mumbai would have seen something is going on.

Hospitals being full. Quarantines. You know, the things you SEE, regardless if anyone tells you about that.


Happy?
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


It's not a matter of being happy.

The few jam packed hospitals you saw in NYC were small in size. Also, the majority of deaths came from nursing home patients that were likely murdered/poisoned.

Have you been to any of the cities you mentioned above since the pandemic? I've been to two of them.
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You should follow on Twitter some of the physicians who worked in those hospitals in NYC. And talk to the MCW working in Wisconsin right now. They are building field hospitals. Stop trying to down play this!
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Dont bother arguing with hoaxers

Many of them are turning out to be Chinese Agents sewing division
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Well, this is going to be awful.

DR's work has been pretty spot on thus far.

With such a track record, his analysis must be taken very seriously.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


Can I ask you and everyone else on here a serious question? Not trolling, I assure you.

If the MSM/China, media, et al never mentioned coronavirus/COVID-19 and you were none the wiser that it actually existed (assuming it does), would you have noticed something was afoot?

I strongly believe the majority of the world population would not.
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I would because I know 5 prople that have died from it. And there are teachers giving first hand reports. The schools as lying big time. At least in texas.
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Europe is going to hit 150k new cases today.


October 15th, the beginning of SHTF.
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You were right on the money. So glad to have this thread in these times.
 Quoting: Vego


Vego - couldn't agree with you more.

Thanks to DR I was able to grab one box of N95 masks (at a high, but relatively reasonable price considering), just before the March shutdowns.

He was warning about October forward, so I went to Ebay and found some at "reasonable" prices back on Oct 8th, assuming we would need them (3 people in my household).

I looked today and I cannot find the same masks (3M) for the price I paid two weeks ago.

DRs reports give me a choice of how I move forward (for those things I have within my control). Even if he is wrong, his track record is enough for me to place my money were I think it will be best spent and for that I am grateful.
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Agreed Canada ^ the shill post coincides with this excellent update of accurate information..
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I think politicians/countries have no other choice than full lockdown like right now, because otherwise will be full on massacre!
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People don't want another lockdown. This happened today near Naples

From Repubblica:
"Blockades and street protests. Merchants and citizens of Arzano took to the streets to oppose the closure of shops and schools decided after the increase in Covid positives in the Neapolitan municipality. Blocked roads and the Rotonda: there are severe inconveniences and long lines of cars trapped in traffic. "

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Thanks very much DR!! Certainly worth the wait.

I’ve always taken you’re forecasts seriously and have been onboard with understanding of what’s coming, so hence my approach atm is still the same. Just waiting it out to develop into the next stage.

I’m still of the opinion we will have a hemorrhagic fever mutation, be it this fall, or before spring. Of course this adds a further element to the forecast. The mortality rate will also be much greater with that. There was a person a doctor or something like that? Suggesting the exact same in an article I was reading.

We know alone that this has to get multitudes worse regarding death rate as, as it stands it isn’t enough to force mass vaccination. This time will come very soon. The prediction you have foretold May be enough for that, but tbh I think it’ll take the hemorrhagic fever kind of illness (dead within 24hrs Spanish flu style) to push the masses into this plan.

Tanks again for the update atb.
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"God help us" said OP in his last update.

Amen.
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Well, this is going to be awful.

DR's work has been pretty spot on thus far.

With such a track record, his analysis must be taken very seriously.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


Can I ask you and everyone else on here a serious question? Not trolling, I assure you.

If the MSM/China, media, et al never mentioned coronavirus/COVID-19 and you were none the wiser that it actually existed (assuming it does), would you have noticed something was afoot?

I strongly believe the majority of the world population would not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77746841


Many people here in Worcestershire we know who have had it. Many fit and young and changed for ever.

My partners cousin in Wales got it. He is an experienced athlete, a hill runner, one of the fittest you can get.

Came down with it, he fought it for two months and now he can hardly climb the stairs, never mind run 25 miles non stop up mountains. Evey organ in his body is fucked. 45 years old!

Yep, we have noticed.
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I think politicians/countries have no other choice than full lockdown like right now, because otherwise will be full on massacre!
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People don't want another lockdown. This happened today near Naples

From Repubblica:
"Blockades and street protests. Merchants and citizens of Arzano took to the streets to oppose the closure of shops and schools decided after the increase in Covid positives in the Neapolitan municipality. Blocked roads and the Rotonda: there are severe inconveniences and long lines of cars trapped in traffic. "

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I confirm the info.
Called a friend who works in Naples and the whole Campania region.
Arzano population don't accept the new rules.
It is a peaceful demonstration but people are blocking roads and say that the lockdown is "unfair".
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A percentage of the population will be killed by the virus or lack of medical care.
Not nice to say, but the loss of jobs created by the crisis will be dramatic for some fragile people, so suicides will also have to be counted in the side effects of the virus.
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I have to say the growth in Italy is not exponential, at least not yet

And I think there will remain the big difference between Northern Italy and the rest of the country. Central and southern Italy, except some big city, are too mountainous and sparsely populated.
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Europe is going to hit 150k new cases today.


October 15th, the beginning of SHTF.
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Damn. That's just as ominous as February's "the last normal week on earth."

Thank you, DR. Excellent work. God help us all, indeed.
 Quoting: Serenity Now


I remember the last normal week/s.. Told my kids to get ready.. They did.. My youngest is saying this is the last normal month, the new normal, before mid Nov the SHTF is going to be really splattered.
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We've had secondary viral spikes before in years past - though we've never had one with this type of messed up world before. In any case, they usually spiked for 1-2 years about the same level and went away for a few years from the data I recall. Need to go back and look at that, but it never went much over a normal influenza level I believe.

One major problem with the whole thing is we never tested in mass like this for anything. We have no idea what we're looking at or what the numbers really are.

To say tests are "not reliable" is an understatement. Since the tests are so bad we have no idea what works and what doesn't outside of washing your hands and not touching your face. From everything I've read I don't believe masks do anything at all to stop transmission one way or another - certainly not if the virus hangs out in the air for hours.

I'm honestly pretty open to the whole thing otherwise. It could be just as we're told. It could end up way worse than we could imagine (even worse than you lay out), it could be the common cold or it could be entirely made up. Maybe in 10 years everyone who caught it will suddenly end up with bone cancer. I honestly don't know.

Here are the things I do know: we've been repeatedly lied to (USA & WHO - they openly admit some of this - with excuses as to why of course). That we started the lock downs based on a farce of a model and never backtracked even when days later it came out that model was complete crap. That the numbers were purposefully made worse in some areas by putting the sick with the old. That those who push for lockdowns and masks seem to not truly believe in their importance themselves as as soon as the cameras stop they stop wearing them or distancing.

It also seems to be pretty clear that major powerful groups are using this for their own motives. The Great Reset is pretty out in the open and clearly has stated they are using CV to get done things they thought they couldn't do otherwise.

What's it all worth? Lockdowns, forced masks, closing businesses, limiting travel, immunization papers/passports, etc. Totalitarianism. We aren't going back to normal - we're going to hell.
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21 states have hit their peak 7-day average of new Covid-19 cases this week

Much of the US continues to report an upward trend in coronavirus cases, with 59,494 new cases reported nationwide on Wednesday alone, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

As of Thursday morning, the nation is now averaging 52,345 new cases a day, up 16% from the previous week, a trend that concerns health experts as we head into the cooler months.

“This is a very ominous sign. I think we’re in for a pretty bad fall and winter,” said Dr. Peter Hotez, professor and dean of tropical medicine at the Baylor College of Medicine.

“This is the time when we could be entering one of the worst periods of our epidemic and one of our worst periods in modern American public health,” he said. “I’m very worried for the nation.”

Thirty-five states are showing increases in new Covid-19 cases greater than 10% over the last week compared to the week prior.

Only three states — Louisiana, Kentucky and Vermont — are showing decreases in new cases greater than 10% this week compared to the week before. The remaining 12 states — Hawaii, California, Texas, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Maryland, Delaware, New York, Massachusetts and Maine — are holding steady.

Since Sunday, 21 states have hit their peak 7-day average of new cases since the pandemic began, according to Johns Hopkins data, those being Alaska, Colorado, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.
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DR I was doing some thinking today and need you to check this out.

If we have roughly 7.8 billion humans on earth and only 18 million are positive for the virus then that is 0.0023076923076923 of earths population that is infected.

Of the 18 million infected, 690,000 have died at a rate of
0.0383333333333333 .

So if all 7.8 billion get infected and 0.038333---- die from infection then the potential number of deaths caused by covid-19 could reach 298,997,400.

I know that there will be some who are immune and some who die do to poor health care( Or no care) while some may never even encounter the virus, But roughly speaking that is a large and frightening number of deaths.

Is this number of deaths even possible? Or will we gain heard immunity first?
 Quoting: Storm2come


DR, I know you said that My numbers would take 252 years, But after reading your latest update, I think that with it would take only 7years, do you agree? or am I still off some how?

EDIT: this was from my Aug. 4th post

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A big thank you from a fellow Eastern European for taking from your time to do this thorough update, DR. You seem to have all the insights. This thread is invaluable for many of us.

I don't have a good feeling about this. The predictions and numbers seem to be matching up pretty well. I can see unrest in the mix if any of these predictions come even close to being true which will only double the chaos.

While we were largely unaffected here in Bulgaria since the start of this whole thing, we are now going up BIG TIME in the past week similar to most European countries at the moment. Looks like DR is spot on. We are doubling the numbers each week now. Healthcare workers here are strained and spread thin. Some are even contemplating leaving no matter the salary or extra payment.

All I can say is buckle up! Hopefully we make it out with minimal damage.
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DR I was doing some thinking today and need you to check this out.

If we have roughly 7.8 billion humans on earth and only 18 million are positive for the virus then that is 0.0023076923076923 of earths population that is infected.

Of the 18 million infected, 690,000 have died at a rate of
0.0383333333333333 .

So if all 7.8 billion get infected and 0.038333---- die from infection then the potential number of deaths caused by covid-19 could reach 298,997,400.

I know that there will be some who are immune and some who die do to poor health care( Or no care) while some may never even encounter the virus, But roughly speaking that is a large and frightening number of deaths.

Is this number of deaths even possible? Or will we gain heard immunity first?
 Quoting: Storm2come


DR, I know you said that My numbers would take 252 years, But after reading your latest update, I think that with it would take only 7years, do you agree? or am I still off some how?

EDIT: this was from my Aug. 4th post
 Quoting: Storm2come


7 years is calculated strictly by the numbers of current data we have available to us, assuming it's accurate, lol. You must take into account reinfection and strain mutation that will cause herd immunity to be obtained far beyond 7 years, if it is even possible to be attained. Just my opinion.
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both deaths caused BY the virus and BECAUSE of the virus, due to hospitals being overwhelmed.
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In the first 37 weeks of 2020, the world registered, at best, around 6,777,049 excess deaths, deaths that are almost all caused by the virus, or because the medical crisis created by the virus.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


You are leaving the path of reputability by mixing up political deaths with illness deaths.

You really could be true with your estimated 1% death rate, but almost all of this 1 percent will be political deaths (suicides, unrests, whatever).

There is no pandemic, it's just a flu. What is killing us is this Corona-dictatorship.





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