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Well, this is going to be awful.

DR's work has been pretty spot on thus far.

With such a track record, his analysis must be taken very seriously.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


Can I ask you and everyone else on here a serious question? Not trolling, I assure you.

If the MSM/China, media, et al never mentioned coronavirus/COVID-19 and you were none the wiser that it actually existed (assuming it does), would you have noticed something was afoot?

I strongly believe the majority of the world population would not.
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clappa

It's a world-wide CASEDEMIC
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Well, this is going to be awful.

DR's work has been pretty spot on thus far.

With such a track record, his analysis must be taken very seriously.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


This could not be more well said.

Thanks, DR, for all you do and have done to foster greater understanding about potentialities with this virus. Your recent update, bleak as it sounds, added a lot of understanding and sense to some serious nonsense that has been going on since (it seems) day one re: numbers. The 'new look' at excess deaths is alternately fascinating as much as horrifying. As this continues to evolve know you and your work are well thought of in many corners.

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Thank You DR for sharing your research again with us. You've been my primary 'goto' source all year. "The Last Normal Week". Ill never forget that comment and how true it was. You nailed it to the week! Its easy to have faith in your conclusions because its verifiable. Its obvious how much work you've put into this. Splended job sir. I would have gladly paid for this kind of information. You need a tip jar.

I am using your data analysis and conclusions to set my personal plans into motion as follows which are modest and simple:

- Buy 2 or more of everything when possible. This applies to clothing, food, things we typically use. Plan on significant distribution channel and manufacturing disruption. Buy local and get to know our local merchants and farmers.

- Take full measures to keep our immune systems at peak. Supplements, walks in the Sun;, eat well. Stay isolated as possible. Health is everything.

- Be grateful for what little we have. Love one another, meditate and don't stress about this. Our time here is so short. This will pass.
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The Chinese have done it??


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The Chinese have done it??


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Now you all believe and cheer CNNepiclol
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3% of 7 Billion dead by October 2021.


That's 210 Million. RIP.


Invest in crematoriums, video games, cyber sex, and bleach.


"The next world war will be between Man versus Microbe"



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216 million elderly over the age of 65 will pass globally. 80% of 270M

And the world still turns.
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Living in Australia, I would be interested DR on your views of the Pandemic here

I have followed and appreciated your comments from the beginning and I think due to early national lockdowns and easy to close international borders, AUS/NZ faired well.... so far

These are our statistics
[link to www.smh.com.au (secure)]

Overview of how society is responding: Major lockdown in the State of Victoria; good contact tracing in all states, few people wear masks (except VIC as its compulsory), testing rates going down, cases of locally acquired transmission with no-known source emerging but very low numbers.
Spring is here with summer on the way.
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Well, this is going to be awful.

DR's work has been pretty spot on thus far.

With such a track record, his analysis must be taken very seriously.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


Can I ask you and everyone else on here a serious question? Not trolling, I assure you.

If the MSM/China, media, et al never mentioned coronavirus/COVID-19 and you were none the wiser that it actually existed (assuming it does), would you have noticed something was afoot?

I strongly believe the majority of the world population would not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77746841


clappa

It's a world-wide CASEDEMIC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3228776


clappa
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OP,

I have only gathered bits and pieces but have been keeping up with this thread for months.

The more scary thing about this virus is the long term effects that we still don't know since it is lab created with HIV sequence.
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DR I was doing some thinking today and need you to check this out.

If we have roughly 7.8 billion humans on earth and only 18 million are positive for the virus then that is 0.0023076923076923 of earths population that is infected.

Of the 18 million infected, 690,000 have died at a rate of
0.0383333333333333 .

So if all 7.8 billion get infected and 0.038333---- die from infection then the potential number of deaths caused by covid-19 could reach 298,997,400.

I know that there will be some who are immune and some who die do to poor health care( Or no care) while some may never even encounter the virus, But roughly speaking that is a large and frightening number of deaths.

Is this number of deaths even possible? Or will we gain heard immunity first?
 Quoting: Storm2come


DR, I know you said that My numbers would take 252 years, But after reading your latest update, I think that with it would take only 7years, do you agree? or am I still off some how?

EDIT: this was from my Aug. 4th post
 Quoting: Storm2come


7 years is calculated strictly by the numbers of current data we have available to us, assuming it's accurate, lol. You must take into account reinfection and strain mutation that will cause herd immunity to be obtained far beyond 7 years, if it is even possible to be attained. Just my opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78680934



Dont forget

Immunity doesnt last so you get to pay the death lotto again and again
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Well, this is going to be awful.

DR's work has been pretty spot on thus far.

With such a track record, his analysis must be taken very seriously.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith

Well... how can we mitigate?

This is the ONLY thing to focus on from here on.
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Hi, Mr. Deplorable recollector.

I would like to inform you that you are becoming wildly popular in one of the most important Spanish forums. People are eagerly waiting for your next update and also want to know if you have any particular forecast for Spain.

I think Spain is a unique case in Europe, because it was hit most severely than any other European country and it is also the only country to have suffered a second wave during summer. Mild temperatures and a higher grade of pre-existing immunity can somehow stall this autumn/winter wave, methinks.

This is the particular thread in which Spanish forum users are discussing and sharing your updates:

[link to www.burbuja.info (secure)]

In case you're interested you might register and drop there and say a few words. We will be following your updates from GodlikeProductions in any case (which is also becoming popular in that forum).

Take care,

Spanish_guy
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i think DR needs to make a counsulting company. im sure a lot of governments, companies, etc would gladly pay for his services.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78458551

Did any government or company ask DR a single question by now... even while they could have done so for free, they didn't.

Or did they?

Their experts know the numbers, graphs and statistics better than most of us here do. Yet they are letting it happen. What does this tell you?

Yesterday, on Dutch TV... they are going to close bars and restaurants for a month. The night before, vast numbers of customers in bars, negating and ignoring any and all pandemic regulation. Bar owner interviewed, says he's sorry, says he feels ashamed blabla.... but no one was fined! Not a single person!

In Belgium, virologist Steven Van Gucht on TV after some comments was ending with "I have full confidence (we will pull this through/we will succeed if we follow the regulations" (something of the sort) while avoiding looking directly at the camera - looking sideways at the floor in fact - and looking very bad, almost sick!

Many groups of people have been making sure for months the Coronavirus got spread as effectively as possible by behaving like what we here would call "retards" - organizing parties at home, attending super spreader events and doing everything without wearing facemasks or respecting any social distancing. I would not be surprised if there are people going around in much visited public areas (shops etc.), intentionally touching surfaces with hands and fingers.
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Hi all from middle EU - Czech Republic.

Number of hospitalized in log scale vs. date
[link to imgur.com (secure)]

Clearly exponential, doubling every 9-10 days. Will keep rising at least for two weeks from now...


 Quoting: stepinside

Much the same in all European countries (and in all western and densely population countries, I am certain, except maybe for those few like Japan).

So we know what's going to happen if no lockdown IMMEDIATELY.

We need to apply the Chinese method of building hospitals at super speeds.

AND we need to plan for having ways of disposing of large numbers of bodies!

What will happen if we don't start doing these 2 things like, right now?
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DR I was doing some thinking today and need you to check this out.

If we have roughly 7.8 billion humans on earth and only 18 million are positive for the virus then that is 0.0023076923076923 of earths population that is infected.

Of the 18 million infected, 690,000 have died at a rate of
0.0383333333333333 .

So if all 7.8 billion get infected and 0.038333---- die from infection then the potential number of deaths caused by covid-19 could reach 298,997,400.

I know that there will be some who are immune and some who die do to poor health care( Or no care) while some may never even encounter the virus, But roughly speaking that is a large and frightening number of deaths.

Is this number of deaths even possible? Or will we gain heard immunity first?
 Quoting: Storm2come


DR, I know you said that My numbers would take 252 years, But after reading your latest update, I think that with it would take only 7years, do you agree? or am I still off some how?

EDIT: this was from my Aug. 4th post
 Quoting: Storm2come


DR, 252 years or what?
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This is a document from CDC dated 13. July 2020.
For Emergency Use Only

CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)
Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel

If you scroll down to page 39 you will see, that no Covid-19 virus
exist and also how they manipulate the testing procedure.
So, where is the virus and how do they make new vaccines against this phantom.


Analytical Performance:
“The analytical sensitivity of the rRT-PCR assays contained in the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-
nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel were determined in Limit of Detection studies. Since no
quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available, assays designed for detection of the
2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene;
GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/µL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a
suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen. Samples
were extracted using the QIAGEN EZ1 Advanced XL instrument and EZ1 DSP Virus Kit (Cat# 62724) and
manually with the QIAGEN DSP Viral RNA Mini Kit (Cat# 61904). Real-Time RT-PCR assays were
performed using the ThemoFisher Scientific TaqPath™ 1-Step RT-qPCR Master Mix, CG (Cat# A15299) on
the Applied Biosystems™ 7500 Fast Dx Real-Time PCR Instrument according to the CDC 2019-nCoV RealTime RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel instructions for use.”

“ [link to www.fda.gov (secure)]
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Living in Australia, I would be interested DR on your views of the Pandemic here

I have followed and appreciated your comments from the beginning and I think due to early national lockdowns and easy to close international borders, AUS/NZ faired well.... so far

These are our statistics
[link to www.smh.com.au (secure)]

Overview of how society is responding: Major lockdown in the State of Victoria; good contact tracing in all states, few people wear masks (except VIC as its compulsory), testing rates going down, cases of locally acquired transmission with no-known source emerging but very low numbers.
Spring is here with summer on the way.
 Quoting: gsxr



Lock-downs is what made the land down under control the pandemic.

Contract tracing is essential, but works much better when lock-downs are in place.


Just look at Europe, lots of countries have excellent contract tracing...but w/o a lock-down in place, the case are exploding.


The moment restrictions are eased, the cases will go back up.

No matter what country we talk about.
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DR I was doing some thinking today and need you to check this out.

If we have roughly 7.8 billion humans on earth and only 18 million are positive for the virus then that is 0.0023076923076923 of earths population that is infected.

Of the 18 million infected, 690,000 have died at a rate of
0.0383333333333333 .

So if all 7.8 billion get infected and 0.038333---- die from infection then the potential number of deaths caused by covid-19 could reach 298,997,400.

I know that there will be some who are immune and some who die do to poor health care( Or no care) while some may never even encounter the virus, But roughly speaking that is a large and frightening number of deaths.

Is this number of deaths even possible? Or will we gain heard immunity first?
 Quoting: Storm2come


DR, I know you said that My numbers would take 252 years, But after reading your latest update, I think that with it would take only 7years, do you agree? or am I still off some how?

EDIT: this was from my Aug. 4th post
 Quoting: Storm2come


7 years is calculated strictly by the numbers of current data we have available to us, assuming it's accurate, lol. You must take into account reinfection and strain mutation that will cause herd immunity to be obtained far beyond 7 years, if it is even possible to be attained. Just my opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78680934



Dont forget

Immunity doesnt last so you get to pay the death lotto again and again
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78996756



I have said previously that reinfections and mutations cannot be quantified before they are well in place and the effects are know.

And by that time, it would be pointless to make a modeling, because they are already present, and any model will be made useless when next mutations hit.


And so on.


So, what I don't know and what I can't at least have an educated guess on, I can't put in any modeling.
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DR I was doing some thinking today and need you to check this out.

If we have roughly 7.8 billion humans on earth and only 18 million are positive for the virus then that is 0.0023076923076923 of earths population that is infected.

Of the 18 million infected, 690,000 have died at a rate of
0.0383333333333333 .

So if all 7.8 billion get infected and 0.038333---- die from infection then the potential number of deaths caused by covid-19 could reach 298,997,400.

I know that there will be some who are immune and some who die do to poor health care( Or no care) while some may never even encounter the virus, But roughly speaking that is a large and frightening number of deaths.

Is this number of deaths even possible? Or will we gain heard immunity first?
 Quoting: Storm2come


DR, I know you said that My numbers would take 252 years, But after reading your latest update, I think that with it would take only 7years, do you agree? or am I still off some how?

EDIT: this was from my Aug. 4th post
 Quoting: Storm2come


DR, 252 years or what?
 Quoting: Storm2come



7-8 years, unless mutations happen.

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This is a document from CDC dated 13. July 2020.
For Emergency Use Only

CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)
Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel

If you scroll down to page 39 you will see, that no Covid-19 virus
exist and also how they manipulate the testing procedure.
So, where is the virus and how do they make new vaccines against this phantom.


Analytical Performance:
“The analytical sensitivity of the rRT-PCR assays contained in the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-
nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel were determined in Limit of Detection studies. Since no
quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available, assays designed for detection of the
2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene;
GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/µL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a
suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen. Samples
were extracted using the QIAGEN EZ1 Advanced XL instrument and EZ1 DSP Virus Kit (Cat# 62724) and
manually with the QIAGEN DSP Viral RNA Mini Kit (Cat# 61904). Real-Time RT-PCR assays were
performed using the ThemoFisher Scientific TaqPath™ 1-Step RT-qPCR Master Mix, CG (Cat# A15299) on
the Applied Biosystems™ 7500 Fast Dx Real-Time PCR Instrument according to the CDC 2019-nCoV RealTime RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel instructions for use.”

“ [link to www.fda.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63927796


I'm no dr, science, medical expert but just from a long search what "no
quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available" means they are unable to connect this disease with another known. They took SARS, FLU, and all other known virus and tried to connect them. "no
quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available", I think here, they are stating this is new or novel and are unable to connect this virus with any other knows virus.

don't we have medical professionals here that understands the verbage???
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This is a document from CDC dated 13. July 2020.
For Emergency Use Only

CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)
Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel

If you scroll down to page 39 you will see, that no Covid-19 virus
exist and also how they manipulate the testing procedure.
So, where is the virus and how do they make new vaccines against this phantom.


Analytical Performance:
“The analytical sensitivity of the rRT-PCR assays contained in the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-
nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel were determined in Limit of Detection studies. Since no
quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available, assays designed for detection of the
2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene;
GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/µL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a
suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen. Samples
were extracted using the QIAGEN EZ1 Advanced XL instrument and EZ1 DSP Virus Kit (Cat# 62724) and
manually with the QIAGEN DSP Viral RNA Mini Kit (Cat# 61904). Real-Time RT-PCR assays were
performed using the ThemoFisher Scientific TaqPath™ 1-Step RT-qPCR Master Mix, CG (Cat# A15299) on
the Applied Biosystems™ 7500 Fast Dx Real-Time PCR Instrument according to the CDC 2019-nCoV RealTime RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel instructions for use.”

“ [link to www.fda.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63927796


I'm no dr, science, medical expert but just from a long search what "no
quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available" means they are unable to connect this disease with another known. They took SARS, FLU, and all other known virus and tried to connect them. "no
quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available", I think here, they are stating this is new or novel and are unable to connect this virus with any other knows virus.

don't we have medical professionals here that understands the verbage???
 Quoting: miabelieves


Your understanding is correct Mia, but trying to explain it to some people is a waste of time.

Some people think that viruses are a hoax, not only SARS CoV2, but all viruses. That kind of ignorance is beyond repair.
All great truths begin as Blasphemies.
G.B.S.

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Hi, Mr. Deplorable recollector.

I would like to inform you that you are becoming wildly popular in one of the most important Spanish forums. People are eagerly waiting for your next update and also want to know if you have any particular forecast for Spain.

I think Spain is a unique case in Europe, because it was hit most severely than any other European country and it is also the only country to have suffered a second wave during summer. Mild temperatures and a higher grade of pre-existing immunity can somehow stall this autumn/winter wave, methinks.

This is the particular thread in which Spanish forum users are discussing and sharing your updates:

[link to www.burbuja.info (secure)]

In case you're interested you might register and drop there and say a few words. We will be following your updates from GodlikeProductions in any case (which is also becoming popular in that forum).

Take care,

Spanish_guy
 Quoting: Spanish_guy



i think DR needs to make a counsulting company. im sure a lot of governments, companies, etc would gladly pay for his services.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78458551

Did any government or company ask DR a single question by now... even while they could have done so for free, they didn't.

Or did they?

Their experts know the numbers, graphs and statistics better than most of us here do. Yet they are letting it happen. What does this tell you?

Yesterday, on Dutch TV... they are going to close bars and restaurants for a month. The night before, vast numbers of customers in bars, negating and ignoring any and all pandemic regulation. Bar owner interviewed, says he's sorry, says he feels ashamed blabla.... but no one was fined! Not a single person!

In Belgium, virologist Steven Van Gucht on TV after some comments was ending with "I have full confidence (we will pull this through/we will succeed if we follow the regulations" (something of the sort) while avoiding looking directly at the camera - looking sideways at the floor in fact - and looking very bad, almost sick!

Many groups of people have been making sure for months the Coronavirus got spread as effectively as possible by behaving like what we here would call "retards" - organizing parties at home, attending super spreader events and doing everything without wearing facemasks or respecting any social distancing. I would not be surprised if there are people going around in much visited public areas (shops etc.), intentionally touching surfaces with hands and fingers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79465269




The governments have the numbers, the projections and the set of measures that if implemented, will control the pandemic and will ensure the survival of the economy.

They KNOW what have to be done.


But, here is the issue. Or better, the issues.


The government have a ton of plans for a pandemic. But those plans are OLD, over 30 years old, and have never been updated.

The world changed dramatically in the last 30 years. The economy in 2020 and the economy in 1990 are different like day and night.


We are at the point where the full lock-downs plan is gathering dust on governments tables.

They have already decided to do anything else, but full lock-down...unless the situation changes to the point where full lock-downs are the last option.

No full lock-downs this month, I am 100% sure of that.

I am also almost 100% sure that there won't be any full lock-down in the first week of November.


But the way I see things unfolding, I am 50/50 on full lock-downs after first week of November, because it will be BAD.

Bad enough to scare the governments, and will get worse enough by mid-November, when there is going to be enough reasoning to activate the full lock-downs plans, all over Northern Hemisphere.


Will they actually do it?


I have no idea.


Will it matter if they wait until mid-November?


Not even a little bit.
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First of all, i want to thank you DR, for your great analisys
you provide to everyone. Thank you.

It seems they start to slowly wake up now in switzerland.
They estimate 12'000 new cases everyday within the next 1-2 weeks if i concludet that rightly.

Good luck to you all.

[link to www.blick.ch (secure)]

Link is in german.
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First of all, i want to thank you DR, for your great analisys
you provide to everyone. Thank you.

It seems they start to slowly wake up now in switzerland.
They estimate 12'000 new cases everyday within the next 1-2 weeks if i concludet that rightly.

Good luck to you all.

[link to www.blick.ch (secure)]

Link is in german.
 Quoting: lol79

"The figures come as a shock" in the article.

WTF - the figures come at a shock?

They should come as NO SURPRISE at all, as for weeks everyone has seen the statistics and the graphs. One look on any of those and you know where it will be one week later, 2 weeks later....

So where is the surprise?

This makes me feel it's all being rigged TO HAPPEN. All those groups spreading the virus in an almost "professional" way for months.... it looks like those are the people who WANT a societal collapse to happen, which means THEY are all prepared for it... and do whatever their agenda is telling them to do.

So DR... although you having been incredibly active here and effective in looking for and interpreting all the necessary information, it seems to me you are in the end as apathetic as those governments themselves.

All this has to be mitigated - am I right or am I wrong?
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Its interesting in the UK with its lovely 3 tier system that there is no tier 4 or tier 5. Or maybe they will spring those on us in a few more weeks. Tier 4 lockdown with schools open and no travel in/out of areas. Tier 5 full lockdown (schools closed) and no travel in/out of areas.

Trouble is once it gets to the stage that hospitals are full (including overflow units) it is too late as it takes 2-3 weeks for lockdowns to do their stuff and even then the numbers remain at very high levels for 2-3 months as we know from 'wave 1'.

So as DR has mentioned you get to a point of no return.....

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First of all, i want to thank you DR, for your great analisys
you provide to everyone. Thank you.

It seems they start to slowly wake up now in switzerland.
They estimate 12'000 new cases everyday within the next 1-2 weeks if i concludet that rightly.

Good luck to you all.

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Link is in german.
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"The figures come as a shock" in the article.

WTF - the figures come at a shock?

They should come as NO SURPRISE at all, as for weeks everyone has seen the statistics and the graphs. One look on any of those and you know where it will be one week later, 2 weeks later....

So where is the surprise?

This makes me feel it's all being rigged TO HAPPEN. All those groups spreading the virus in an almost "professional" way for months.... it looks like those are the people who WANT a societal collapse to happen, which means THEY are all prepared for it... and do whatever their agenda is telling them to do.

So DR... although you having been incredibly active here and effective in looking for and interpreting all the necessary information, it seems to me you are in the end as apathetic as those governments themselves.

All this has to be mitigated - am I right or am I wrong?
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More like I am at peace.


We can't mitigate this, in an acceptable period of time (1 year, tops), unless full lock-downs yesterday.


We can mitigate this with local quarantines, curfews, closures, etc., but it will take a continuous process of those measures for at least 5 years.


If we keep closing the bars and restaurants (and other non-essentials, like theaters, etc.) every 3-4 months, then start schools and close them after 1-2 months, we will slowly bleed out in about 1 year from now.

The economy will be on life support, the unemployment high af, same as inflation...

And we will have to do this for the next 5 years.



There ARE no solutions to this pandemic, at least for another 1 more year. Maybe a vaccine by that point, but I won't hold my breath.


They want a QUICK end to this pandemic, regardless of the number of dead and long-term sick people.



I will drop an update tomorrow.

I will be an interesting one, an update to bring reality back, because a lot of people are in the March mindset, confused with increasing official numbers and putting too much on these numbers, not realizing that the REAL numbers are much worse.
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216 million elderly over the age of 65 will pass globally. 80% of 270M

And the world still turns.
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This is a document from CDC dated 13. July 2020.
For Emergency Use Only

CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)
Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel

If you scroll down to page 39 you will see, that no Covid-19 virus
exist and also how they manipulate the testing procedure.
So, where is the virus and how do they make new vaccines against this phantom.


Analytical Performance:
“The analytical sensitivity of the rRT-PCR assays contained in the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-
nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel were determined in Limit of Detection studies. Since no
quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available, assays designed for detection of the
2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene;
GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/µL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a
suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen. Samples
were extracted using the QIAGEN EZ1 Advanced XL instrument and EZ1 DSP Virus Kit (Cat# 62724) and
manually with the QIAGEN DSP Viral RNA Mini Kit (Cat# 61904). Real-Time RT-PCR assays were
performed using the ThemoFisher Scientific TaqPath™ 1-Step RT-qPCR Master Mix, CG (Cat# A15299) on
the Applied Biosystems™ 7500 Fast Dx Real-Time PCR Instrument according to the CDC 2019-nCoV RealTime RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel instructions for use.”

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I'm no dr, science, medical expert but just from a long search what "no
quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available" means they are unable to connect this disease with another known. They took SARS, FLU, and all other known virus and tried to connect them. "no
quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available", I think here, they are stating this is new or novel and are unable to connect this virus with any other knows virus.

don't we have medical professionals here that understands the verbage???
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Your understanding is correct Mia, but trying to explain it to some people is a waste of time.

Some people think that viruses are a hoax, not only SARS CoV2, but all viruses. That kind of ignorance is beyond repair.
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I don't bother with hoaxtards, nothingburgers, plandemic tards. Like trying to reason with libtards -- just not possible.

Some are meant to live; some are not.
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"You cannot withstand the storm"

and the warrior whispers back

"I am the storm"

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Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

Follow. But! Follow only if ye be men of valor! For the entrance to this cave is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel, that no man yet has fought with it... and lived! BONES of full fifty men lie *strewn* about its lair! So! Brave knights! If you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth...

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Top hospital exec: Montana is in a public health crisis with surge of COVID cases

A dire situation was laid out by healthcare workers at a Thursday news conference if coronavirus numbers don’t slow down in Montana.

“I will put this very simply. We are experiencing a public health crisis,” warned Dr. Bridget Brennan, chief medical officer of Benefis Health System in Great Falls. “The number of positive COVID cases is rising so quickly that it is threatening to overwhelm healthcare resources in the state.”

Brennan told reporters that over the past several weeks, hospitals across the state have been reaching and exceeding their capacity. Benefis itself has been taking on patients from other Montana hospitals after ICU’s had become full.

Brennan also noted that staffing has faced challenges with healthcare workers contracting the virus in their community and have to quarantine.

“We have a number of employees that have been affected and are out,” explained Dr. Brennan. “Everyone across the board is having staffing issues because when infected the staff have to stay home out of work.”

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Nevermind. I got that one confused again.

Eh.

Last Edited by CleverCreator on 10/16/2020 01:36 PM
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