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I am preparing an update for Thursday, with a list of countries in Europe that based on my calculations, lost the control of the epidemic already, or are very close to lose it.


I am also trying to determine if the lock-downs are really off the table, or it's just that Europe is waiting for the U.S. elections results, before deciding in favor or against lock-downs.
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" I am preparing an update ..." stir
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Good luck. Hope you aren’t really in Brazil.
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Ireland's government is considering going back into a full national lockdown for six weeks, Sky News understands.

Sky's Ireland correspondent Stephen Murphy called it a "surprise move".

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79471260


Ireland - Republic of - full lockdown for 6 weeks, announcement tonight 9pm.
Govt tried to hold out against it, medical authorities -NPHET - won that battle. Ireland has a very shaky public health service at the best of times.
This is emphatically NOT the best of times, case numbers ^ above exponential growth *
Here in UK situation seems utterly chaotic.
Many thanks to DR for so much work. Followed since early Spring.
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The current lvl 5 proposal in Ireland is a "soft" lvl 5...because schools remain open.


Full lock-down, with schools open? Full lock-down with workplaces open?


It's not even a lock-down.


Calling what Ireland is preparing to do , a full lock-down, is very far from what actually is.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Will be interesting to see what effect it has on the infection rate.

Will show schools how large a drive they may or may not be.
Proof is on the way
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Master DR, I have no words to describe the gratitude for your work.

I've been following your thread since the first post, and after validating and re-validating the numbers (because I'm also a master of numbers), I decided in January to remodel my whole life to escape the horrible future that awaits the cities.

I used all the credit lines I had, (fuck the banks), invested everything in crypto and physical gold, recovered the investments, spent everything on resources useful for survival, and have lived in the jungle, building a refuge with my own hands. It has been months of a lot of struggle, but it is just what is expected of a family man, who is a man and defends his family.

I quit my job, burned my name at the banks, and I'm called crazy even by my mother. I chose the path of no return. In my country it is said "I burned the caravels". But I'm still sure I did the right thing.

Hundreds of people had access to your work through me. Its reach is not limited to visitors to this forum, nor is it limited to interweb users.

My family and I are very grateful.
His wisdom and work were our compass.


Note: english is not my language.
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I hope you are not trolling, but if not, you kind of overreacted, albeit I think in the mid term you might be proven to have made a very good decision.
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I also hope he's not trolling.
I agree possible knee jerk action but who knows if in 6 months we all wished we had done just this.
Last, english not being his language all was written pretty darn good!!!!
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Word from here, is that IF it records 15,000 plus Daily infections By Friday, a lockdown will be issued.

Yesterday was 8000, still very high, I wonder what this week will bring.
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Word from here, is that IF it records 15,000 plus Daily infections By Friday, a lockdown will be issued.

Yesterday was 8000, still very high, I wonder what this week will bring.
 Quoting: Gamechanger 2.0 77356084



You will get to around 13,500 this week, give it +/- 10%.


If Czechia hits 15k this week...going to be bad.

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Word from here, is that IF it records 15,000 plus Daily infections By Friday, a lockdown will be issued.

Yesterday was 8000, still very high, I wonder what this week will bring.
 Quoting: Gamechanger 2.0 77356084



You will get to around 13,500 this week, give it +/- 10%.


If Czechia hits 15k this week...going to be bad.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


13,500 or so isn’t far off, I wonder if they’ll consider it enough to go forward with the lockdown. One thing I’ve learnt recently is that these numbers can just jump up out of nowhere.

Tbh it’d be a good thing if it hits 15k then is locked down. As if it hits 13k or something and doesn’t qualify for lockdown and they leave it be, then that’d be worse I would imagine.

They will leave the kindergartens as the last places to close as this helps the working parents to actually work. But from what I understand, until they lockdown the kindergartens also, this is still leaving an avenue for great spread. They really are in a catch 22 here. Also saying there isn’t money to bail out this time round.
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Word from here, is that IF it records 15,000 plus Daily infections By Friday, a lockdown will be issued.

Yesterday was 8000, still very high, I wonder what this week will bring.
 Quoting: Gamechanger 2.0 77356084



You will get to around 13,500 this week, give it +/- 10%.


If Czechia hits 15k this week...going to be bad.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


13,500 or so isn’t far off, I wonder if they’ll consider it enough to go forward with the lockdown. One thing I’ve learnt recently is that these numbers can just jump up out of nowhere.

Tbh it’d be a good thing if it hits 15k then is locked down. As if it hits 13k or something and doesn’t qualify for lockdown and they leave it be, then that’d be worse I would imagine.

They will leave the kindergartens as the last places to close as this helps the working parents to actually work. But from what I understand, until they lockdown the kindergartens also, this is still leaving an avenue for great spread. They really are in a catch 22 here. Also saying there isn’t money to bail out this time round.
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And this is why everyone is afraid to lock-down again. But they will have to do it anyway, at some point.


Czechia should have locked-down at 5k/ cases, or when they reached 80% ICU.

Waiting for 15k cases / day was and is stupid af.


Czechia lost the control of the epidemic, and while a lock-down (a REAL one) will bring back the situation under control, it will take months. Not 1 or 2, but more like 4 months, if they wait until the end of this month.

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I confirm it.
Campania region will ask the same measure to start from friday 23th October.

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Note: Campania region has only 15 ICU bed still free (unoccupied) ... That's why they say a curfew is needed.

But I think a total lockdown would be the only effective containment measure...
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Curfew from 23 pm till 5 am

Is this a joke? Do infections happen in the empty streets during night time when most people sleep???

Madness
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Curfew from 23 pm till 5 am

Is this a joke? Do infections happen in the empty streets during night time when most people sleep???

Madness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79515146


The “rationale” behind that kind of curfew, which is the same actually being applied in my country, is to avoid partying and the so called “night life” where infections spread easily. It doesn’t work anyway as people just sleep over and it actually worsens things.
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Curfew from 23 pm till 5 am

Is this a joke? Do infections happen in the empty streets during night time when most people sleep???

Madness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79515146


The “rationale” behind that kind of curfew, which is the same actually being applied in my country, is to avoid partying and the so called “night life” where infections spread easily. It doesn’t work anyway as people just sleep over and it actually worsens things.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


I think the rationale is "we don't want to close anything, we don't care about public health, but we have to pretend we care to fool the people"
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Curfew from 23 pm till 5 am

Is this a joke? Do infections happen in the empty streets during night time when most people sleep???

Madness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79515146


The “rationale” behind that kind of curfew, which is the same actually being applied in my country, is to avoid partying and the so called “night life” where infections spread easily. It doesn’t work anyway as people just sleep over and it actually worsens things.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


I think the rationale is "we don't want to close anything, we don't care about public health, but we have to pretend we care to fool the people"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79515146


My thoughts exactly / doing nothing looks so bad.

Therefore they put in measures to make it look good and put the pressure on the population if things don’t go well.
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Word from here, is that IF it records 15,000 plus Daily infections By Friday, a lockdown will be issued.

Yesterday was 8000, still very high, I wonder what this week will bring.
 Quoting: Gamechanger 2.0 77356084



You will get to around 13,500 this week, give it +/- 10%.


If Czechia hits 15k this week...going to be bad.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


I’m just reading this article from today.Link below (Needs translating to English)
So what I call the halfway point in the day, they’re referring to as the interim. At the interim point of the day which recorded so far the highest daily infection rate (11,104) the interim number was 5668.

Today the interim number is the highest ever 6814 so this is likely setting up to be a new daily record when the final tally is in tomorrow. It won’t be far off the 13k I imagine, but again it’s new territory. That number could already go 25k I don’t know.

I like to note what the interim number is, rather than just wait until posting tomorrow, as it also helps me follow the patterns. Generally when it was in the 1k range, it read 2-3k the day after. 3k interim would read 4-5k the day after, so a high 6k is presumably going to be around 13k+ This has been billed as a crucial week by yourself and in the media here. It really is for many reasons. Death rate could also be a new record again tomorrow.

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Sorry typo *15k not 25k*
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dr i'm reading all is good in china, no virus no pandemic nothing

i can't find a reliable source about china. do you?
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dr i'm reading all is good in china, no virus no pandemic nothing

i can't find a reliable source about china. do you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79515146


There are no reliable sources.


Everything from China is propaganda.


Everything.
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France today, just above 128k tests.

20,468 cases, just shy of 16% positivity.

Almost 50% increase from last Tuesday.



Pretty bad.


Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, France should do around 200k test / day.


If they hit 17-18% on Friday / Saturday, at over 200k tests, they are getting damn close to 40k cases, which is the point where they will no longer be able to control the spread.

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Looking forward to Thursday's update. :)
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dr i'm reading all is good in china, no virus no pandemic nothing

i can't find a reliable source about china. do you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79515146


There are no reliable sources.


Everything from China is propaganda.


Everything.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Exactly. All anecdotal data that has been smuggled out points to brutal treatment of all outbreaks and brutal repression of complainings, while maintaining the appearance of having it under control at all costs.
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More confirmation of what we already know.

[link to www.jpost.com (secure)]

20% of verified coronavirus patients did not develop immunity

Only 80% of people who tested positive for coronavirus had antibodies to the virus, according to a report published Monday by the Central Bureau of Statistics, the Health Ministry and the Gertner Institute.
The results mean that a percentage of people who develop asymptomatic or even mild cases of the virus could contract it again.
The report was based on a serological survey conducted between June and August in the haredi (ultra-Orthodox) community of Bnei Brak. The city has had some of the highest rates of infection in the country.
The survey also found that the number of people who tested positive for antibodies increased with the number of sick patients, thought not proportionally.
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dr i'm reading all is good in china, no virus no pandemic nothing

i can't find a reliable source about china. do you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79515146

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"In Italy we are able to track up to 2000 cases per day with the capabilities we have. With 12 thousand infections, everything goes wrong, the system goes haywire: there is no contact tracing or Immune App capable of withstanding such an impact."

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"In Italy we are able to track up to 2000 cases per day with the capabilities we have. With 12 thousand infections, everything goes wrong, the system goes haywire: there is no contact tracing or Immune App capable of withstanding such an impact."

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As of now, Italy is toast
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"In Italy we are able to track up to 2000 cases per day with the capabilities we have. With 12 thousand infections, everything goes wrong, the system goes haywire: there is no contact tracing or Immune App capable of withstanding such an impact."

[link to translate.google.it (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79515302


As of now, Italy is toast
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Hi cutegirl, did you return home? do you have news of Spain? It seems that even there the situation isn't very good.
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More confirmation of what we already know.

[link to www.jpost.com (secure)]

20% of verified coronavirus patients did not develop immunity

Only 80% of people who tested positive for coronavirus had antibodies to the virus, according to a report published Monday by the Central Bureau of Statistics, the Health Ministry and the Gertner Institute.
The results mean that a percentage of people who develop asymptomatic or even mild cases of the virus could contract it again.
The report was based on a serological survey conducted between June and August in the haredi (ultra-Orthodox) community of Bnei Brak. The city has had some of the highest rates of infection in the country.
The survey also found that the number of people who tested positive for antibodies increased with the number of sick patients, thought not proportionally.
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Gain of function.

Old article, but has some merit.
Less 50%

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CONFIRMED: CoVid-19 coronavirus found to contain unique “gain-of-function” property “for efficient spreading in the human population” … exact quote from science paper just published in Antiviral Research.


Excerpt: "It reveals that the CoVid-19 coronavirus contains unique features that allow it to function as a more efficient weapon system for human-to-human transmission, which helps explain why the virus has been impossible to contain (even under “quarantine” conditions, which have universally failed in China, Japan, Korea and elsewhere)."
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Word from here, is that IF it records 15,000 plus Daily infections By Friday, a lockdown will be issued.

Yesterday was 8000, still very high, I wonder what this week will bring.
 Quoting: Gamechanger 2.0 77356084



You will get to around 13,500 this week, give it +/- 10%.


If Czechia hits 15k this week...going to be bad.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


NEW: Czech Republic reports record increases in coronavirus cases, deaths, and hospitalizations

- New cases: 11,984
- Positivity rate: 26.3% (-3.3)
- In hospital: 4,064 (+343)
- In ICU: 634 (+45)
- New deaths: 106

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Master DR, I have no words to describe the gratitude for your work.

I've been following your thread since the first post, and after validating and re-validating the numbers (because I'm also a master of numbers), I decided in January to remodel my whole life to escape the horrible future that awaits the cities.

I used all the credit lines I had, (fuck the banks), invested everything in crypto and physical gold, recovered the investments, spent everything on resources useful for survival, and have lived in the jungle, building a refuge with my own hands. It has been months of a lot of struggle, but it is just what is expected of a family man, who is a man and defends his family.

I quit my job, burned my name at the banks, and I'm called crazy even by my mother. I chose the path of no return. In my country it is said "I burned the caravels". But I'm still sure I did the right thing.

Hundreds of people had access to your work through me. Its reach is not limited to visitors to this forum, nor is it limited to interweb users.

My family and I are very grateful.
His wisdom and work were our compass.


Note: english is not my language.
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Mr. Borg,

Interesting Name, Not a Bot are you ?

In 3 Months everyone here Will Understand

You Sir, Are the Smartest Man on GLP.

Good Luck to You Sir and May God Bless Your Efforts.

I'll see you on the Other Side.

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Slovenia on Tuesday:

new cases: 1503
positivity 25.5%

How long before we are the new Czechia?





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