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CHINESE VIRUS infection rate OUTSIDE China; UPDATE Page 308

 
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O wow! Now they talk abou a nation wide lockdown, whatever it means. But i can assure you, this will take another month they do that eventually.
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Hang in there, European friends. Hugs from the US! hf
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Hospitalizations, not cases, is what should be closely watched. I'm not seeing doom at all.
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You watch whatever number you want.


I am watching them ALL, because the difference between you and me is that I am looking at the big picture.


You want to watch hospitalization? Be my guest. Take the data from September 1st, in Europe, and the data from yesterday.

See the difference in hospitalizations. And if you there, look at ICU also.


And if you managed to do AT LEAST THAT, see where this is going, and going fast.



But, since you will NEVER bother to spend any time in actually LOOKING at the same very thing you are suggesting (hospitalizations), come back on this thread on November 1st, and tell me again if you see no doom.


You think anyone cares about Thailand?


If Europe goes in full lock-down, the entire world is going to be economically affected, because it will start a domino effect, causing the U.S. economy to crumble, and right after that, China's economy...because China's massive economic output is what it is because Europe and the U.S. are the biggest buyers of China's crap.


If Thailand is erased from the map today, the world won't even blink.


So, don't look outside your window to see doom...the doom is NOT there.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


I'm not interested in Thailand. Besides, nothing is going on here. Romania isn't of much importance either, but I'm praying for them nonetheless.

I don't understand why specific hospitalization data isn't shared here especially since we can now compare it to what occurred in the spring.

France is currently at 34% of hospitalizations reached during their spring peak.

Italy is only at 24% of hospitalizations reached earlier this year.

UK is at 33 percent.

Denmark, Finland, Estonia are at 23% of hospitalizations reached during spring time.

Norway right now is only at 10% of their previous peak.

But we have at least 8 European countries that are currently exceeding their spring numbers. They include (from bad to WORSE):

Croatia at 136%, Latvia at 163%, Slovenia at 226%, Poland at 230%, Hungary at 249%, Slovakia at 285%, Bulgaria at 381% and Czech Republic at 882%

Yet no country (even Czechia) is near the level of hospitalizations that Italy faced at their peak in late March to early April.

Czechia hospitalizations would have to increase more than 50% from here to reach that level of patients per 100,000 people.

Of course, each country has their own ability to handle X number of cases per 100,000.

But besides Czechia it's only Spain, Belgium, Poland and Bulgaria that are surpassing 20 patients in hospital per 100,000 at this point.

Note: Some European countries were excluded

Source: [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77964865


Becuase in the spring every EU country kicked out anyone from hospital that could walk.

Now take that 33% and add it to the uk with norm hospital lvls and yep your at over 100%.

It does not matter of its 10% covid if the hospital is 90% full 10% on top kills the care.

The UK crumbles each dec-feb to flu. The diffrence is you can leave people in corridors with flu. You cant with covid
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Finally someone speaking frankly about how hospitalizations work...

Covid patients need to be isolated from other patients.
This means that hospitals must allocate resources, beds (ICU included) and personnel specifically to Covid patients.

Covid is "on top" of all other known diseases, and we are reaching the flu season...

Moreover, clusters in EU are less "concentrated" then before.

That's why, for example, many hospitals in Italy are struggling more nowadays than during spring.
Back in spring, there were some major clusters identified in Italy (everyone knows... Bergamo, Milan, etc.)

Today the active clusters are more than 7.000, scattered through all the peninsula.

Many hospitals didn't prepare the structures for the second wave (no different routes/corridors in hospitals for Covid patients, no ICU and personnel for Covid patients, and so on...)

Central and South Italy is fu**ed...
Naples, for example, is near to 100% hospitals beds occupied.

Italian Government estimated that a maximum of 30% ICU beds should be occupied for Covid patients (you always need ICU for heart-strokes, car accidents, regular flu complications, cancer patients with complications and so on).

Sadly, we already reached a 15% ICU beds (nationwide) occupied for Covid treatment...

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15.1% positive

A jump from 14.3% positive yesterday despite similar number of cases.

Tomorrow 50k cases... ?
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I have repeated, many times, that there won't be a second nation-wide lock-down until November.


Me being 100% sure about that was based on 2 reason, one of which you all known, because I said before : they will let the virus spread until people will beg for lock-downs, and the backlash from the population will be minimal.


The second reason, which I did not wanted to tell, because it is exclusively political, and I don't want too much politics on my thread, is connected to the U.S. election results.


Many countries in Europe had enough medical reasons to implement a nation-wide full lock-down...but they didn't.


The question is why?


And the answer is simple : they wait to see who wins the U.S elections, because Europe and the U.S. have to agree on a second full lock-down. We are too interconnected, not to do things in accord, and lock-downs are no exception.


This is how it will go, and it's just my opinion, and ofc, it can be wrong.


Trump is adamant against a second full lock-down. The U.S. is 2, maybe 3 weeks behind Europe, and Trump, IF HE WINS, he will have the political support of another 4 more years, to drag the second lock-down until the epidemic in the U.S. will reach comparable levels with Europe's levels at the end of this month.

And this puts the second lock-down after mid-November.


IF Trump LOSES the elections, the second lock-down is going to hit Europe and the U.S. before mid-November. Trump won't have the power to drag the second lock-down any longer, if he loses.



Basically, the politicians are playing with our lives, waiting to see who wins in the U.S. elections.


There is possible that a second lock-down will not come this year, but I highly doubt it.

We can't stop this w/o a second lock-down, and the longer it takes to do it, just like I said it in February, the worst will it be, especially this time, when the virus is endemic.


The first lock-down, which started late, should have been 3 months long, and we wouldn't be in current situation. The second wave would have been greatly diminished.


Now, the lock-downs will HAVE TO last at least 4 months, if they start in early November, and at least 5 months, if they start in late November, or later.


The times ahead are going to be epic.

I do not know if there will be a second lock-down, for sure. All I know is that there is no other way out.


I don't know if the second lock-down will last 4 or 5 months. All I know is that they have to stay that long, and start in mid-November at the latest.

If they do a second lock-down, and lift it in December or January, we will have another big wave in March or April.



From the beginning of this thread, I said that there is no way out of this without great sacrifices, and shit will hit the fan, if full lock-downs aren't used.


All they managed to do until now, was buying time, hoping, against all odds, that it won't be "that bad".

But time have already ran out, we're on borrowed time. It is bad already, and it's only going to get worse.



Worse enough to kick our civilization in the nuts, and knock-it off the rails.

We are going to need years to rebuild...regardless if they lock-down again or not.



The only difference will be that without lock-downs, it is going to take a lot longer to rebuild...if we don't face a massive social and economic collapse by the end of this year...which I think it will happen.

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Lock-downs are not the best way to fight covid , mr DR.
Look China /I know You said they cheated/
Look Sweeden - daily deaths - [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)]
they also cheated ????

You are a slave of schematic thinking.

The way is:
Stop testing
Treat really sick patients.
No quarantines.
No isolations.
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Hospital in Zurich (switzerland) preparing.
They install Glass walls in front of the hospital, for the "visitors". While sport events with up to 9'000 are still allowed.applause2

Link in german

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Hang in there, European friends. Hugs from the US! hf
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Thanks! You too.hf
I have to admit, that my family is well prepared.
But it has the potential to be epic sfan
for everyone, even the prepared.
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Dr I'm hearing of a second lockdown from mid December till March. They want Christmas in lockdown
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Thanks for the thoughts DR. I just want to reiterate my opinion on whether there will be a second lockdown.

I’m mindful not to go too off topic, but I’d be doing myself and the members a disservice by not mentioning this.

There will absolutely be a full second lockdown leading up to May 2021. This year how it played out, was a dry run. So if you’re suggesting a 4-5 month lockdown, then that is very plausible. Even 6 months.

When the next one properly occurs, it will have to be every town/city isolated and very strict measures. Martial law will also be in place as a means to enforce this.

So one aspect of this virus is depopulation. Another is to install the vaccination. Another is to use this whole saga as a means to also install global martial law in preparation for the inbound celestial object. I won’t add my link, but I will be updating my thread tonight. I can assure you 100% this is basically what it all primarily revolves around, due to the stakes at hand.

Object always passes nearest orbit in May. For years Us in the groups have known they’d use a virus to bring in martial law for this event. My personal forecast (as if yours isn’t bad enough) would be either late this year or early spring, the third wave brings hemorrhagic fever cykotone storm with very high fatality levels. Then they’ll rush to use this opportunity to issue the vaccine.

But yes second more severe lockdown is absolutely happening. They’re letting this run through enough to make sure it lays the foundation for the next step of the plan. Some refer to it as a binary weapon. Makes sense that the first part would be more contagious, then it can be reactivated later on.

Many hear are talking of prep. If you aren’t aware or don’t accept the celestial system inbound and what that entials, your preps are pointless. So martial law or ‘Quarantine’ will be used to stop people traveling to safe geographic zones within any said country. If you live in the UK for example, most of it I deem unsafe and it’s exceptionally overpopulated. Spain and Central Europe are where you ideally need to be, if not possible? get to the highlands before lockdown is issued or you’ll be unable to reach safe regions.

Sorry I had to add this. Bearing this in mind can also be used as a gauge to predict when they will act for second lockdown. Leading up to mid May in 30 day increments we will see the evolution of the global plan in preparation for this time starting in earnest in February. If there’s anything to what I’m saying regarding the actual passage being in 2021 and not another year? Martial law will be in place globally by February maybe even March 2021 latest.
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Governor of southern Italian region of Campania calls for national lockdown. PM Conte is resisting a national shutdown, saying it would be a disaster for the economy.
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In short what I’m saying. Is that a prediction of lockdown being properly rolled out in mid November as DR is suggesting. Would bring us 6 months perfectly leading up to mid May 2021 in time for the passage.

The figure of 6 months has been put out there by many, namely even the media. So this holds a lot of weight and would fit well. So if it occurs mid November this would bolster what I’m suggesting..
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Lock-downs are not the best way to fight covid , mr DR.
Look China /I know You said they cheated/
Look Sweeden - daily deaths - [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)]
they also cheated ????

You are a slave of schematic thinking.

The way is:
Stop testing
Treat really sick patients.
No quarantines.
No isolations.
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https://imgur.com/1EpNA2F

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At this point..... I am fully

#teamvirus for those idiots.
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In short what I’m saying. Is that a prediction of lockdown being properly rolled out in mid November as DR is suggesting. Would bring us 6 months perfectly leading up to mid May 2021 in time for the passage.

The figure of 6 months has been put out there by many, namely even the media. So this holds a lot of weight and would fit well. So if it occurs mid November this would bolster what I’m suggesting..
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I can't find your thread?
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It looks like the virus learned how to post while I was out. Gain of function.

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Governor of southern Italian region of Campania calls for national lockdown. PM Conte is resisting a national shutdown, saying it would be a disaster for the economy.
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siren2

BREAKING NEWS - ITALY - RIOT IN NAPLES

Scenes of urban guerrilla warfare in via Santa Lucia street, in front of the Campania Region administration building. The protesters took to the streets against the anti Covid restrictions, all with their faces covered by masks, managed to overcome the barricade of the police and now hundreds are throwing firecrackers and lighting smoke bombs in front of the building while the police respond with a dense launch of tear gas. From the rioters, also glass bottles thrown against the wall of the agents, about a hundred, in riot gear.

[link to www.ansa.it (secure)]


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Personal notes: I think this is just the beginning... They are rioting against the curfew applied from 11pm to 5am...
What could happen with a full lockdown... ?

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In short what I’m saying. Is that a prediction of lockdown being properly rolled out in mid November as DR is suggesting. Would bring us 6 months perfectly leading up to mid May 2021 in time for the passage.

The figure of 6 months has been put out there by many, namely even the media. So this holds a lot of weight and would fit well. So if it occurs mid November this would bolster what I’m suggesting..
 Quoting: Gamechanger 2.0 77356084


I got b l o cked for updating this. So I’m likely on the right lines with the presumption above.

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Montana update!!


Valley County Board Of Health Considers Additional Restrictions To Curb COVID-19

Wednesday, October 21st 2020

The Valley County Board of Health received a recommendation from Dr. Anne Millard to implement additional restrictions to curb the spread of COVID-19. In a virtual meeting on Wednesday evening, Dr. Millard told the Board of Health that Frances Mahon Deaconess Hospital is getting overwhelmed with COVID patients and is starting to restrict non-emergent services in some of their departments in order to redeploy staffing to support needs due to the current COVID surge.

Millard, who is the County Health Officer, said patients are coming in very sick and in some cases need to be hospitalized up to 10 days due to COVID-19. FMDH in some cases is unable to fly patients to other facilities because many other facilities are also full and aren't accepting additional patients.

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In short what I’m saying. Is that a prediction of lockdown being properly rolled out in mid November as DR is suggesting. Would bring us 6 months perfectly leading up to mid May 2021 in time for the passage.

The figure of 6 months has been put out there by many, namely even the media. So this holds a lot of weight and would fit well. So if it occurs mid November this would bolster what I’m suggesting..
 Quoting: Gamechanger 2.0 77356084


I can't find your thread?
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I couldn’t either. Even in my own profile. That tells you all you need to know. What I’m saying NEEDS factoring into the bigger picture for ultimate understanding

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Montana update!!


Valley County Board Of Health Considers Additional Restrictions To Curb COVID-19

Wednesday, October 21st 2020

The Valley County Board of Health received a recommendation from Dr. Anne Millard to implement additional restrictions to curb the spread of COVID-19. In a virtual meeting on Wednesday evening, Dr. Millard told the Board of Health that Frances Mahon Deaconess Hospital is getting overwhelmed with COVID patients and is starting to restrict non-emergent services in some of their departments in order to redeploy staffing to support needs due to the current COVID surge.

Millard, who is the County Health Officer, said patients are coming in very sick and in some cases need to be hospitalized up to 10 days due to COVID-19. FMDH in some cases is unable to fly patients to other facilities because many other facilities are also full and aren't accepting additional patients.

-More at link-

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Excerpt:
Dr. Millard is recommending that the Board of Health impose additional restrictions in Valley County including going back to Phase 1 restrictions or to a stay at home order similar to what was imposed back in March and April of this year. Valley County has been in Phase 2 since May of this year.
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Governor of southern Italian region of Campania calls for national lockdown. PM Conte is resisting a national shutdown, saying it would be a disaster for the economy.
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siren2

BREAKING NEWS - ITALY - RIOT IN NAPLES

Scenes of urban guerrilla warfare in via Santa Lucia street, in front of the Campania Region administration building. The protesters took to the streets against the anti Covid restrictions, all with their faces covered by masks, managed to overcome the barricade of the police and now hundreds are throwing firecrackers and lighting smoke bombs in front of the building while the police respond with a dense launch of tear gas. From the rioters, also glass bottles thrown against the wall of the agents, about a hundred, in riot gear.

[link to www.ansa.it (secure)]


SKY NEWS REPORTER BEATEN BY PROTESTERS

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

Personal notes: I think this is just the beginning... They are rioting against the curfew applied from 11pm to 5am...
What could happen with a full lockdown... ?
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siren2

BREAKING NEWS - ITALY - RIOT IN NAPLES

Scenes of urban guerrilla warfare in via Santa Lucia street, in front of the Campania Region administration building. The protesters took to the streets against the anti Covid restrictions, all with their faces covered by masks, managed to overcome the barricade of the police and now hundreds are throwing firecrackers and lighting smoke bombs in front of the building while the police respond with a dense launch of tear gas. From the rioters, also glass bottles thrown against the wall of the agents, about a hundred, in riot gear.

[link to www.ansa.it (secure)]


SKY NEWS REPORTER BEATEN BY PROTESTERS

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

Personal notes: I think this is just the beginning... They are rioting against the curfew applied from 11pm to 5am...
What could happen with a full lockdown... ?
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Naples in fire and sword. Thousands of people found themselves under the headquarters of the Campania Region and came to clash with the police. Excluding a few exhibitors, what happened is the result of a union of forces between ultras, clans and far-right forces.

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Governor of southern Italian region of Campania calls for national lockdown. PM Conte is resisting a national shutdown, saying it would be a disaster for the economy.
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Campania and Naples set to go into full lockdown with schools closing, even if the rest of the country doesn't follow.

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Governor of southern Italian region of Campania calls for national lockdown. PM Conte is resisting a national shutdown, saying it would be a disaster for the economy.
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Campania and Naples set to go into full lockdown with schools closing, even if the rest of the country doesn't follow.

translation here: [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

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I wrote here a few months ago that if the virus had spread to southern Italy it would have been a massacre.
Hospitals in southern Italy are not comparable to those in the north, the governor knows this and does the right thing.
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Covid-19: Boris Johnson hopes families can have Christmas together

He’s gone mad!!
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It's typical politician talk.
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siren2

BREAKING NEWS - ITALY - RIOT IN NAPLES

Scenes of urban guerrilla warfare in via Santa Lucia street, in front of the Campania Region administration building. The protesters took to the streets against the anti Covid restrictions, all with their faces covered by masks, managed to overcome the barricade of the police and now hundreds are throwing firecrackers and lighting smoke bombs in front of the building while the police respond with a dense launch of tear gas. From the rioters, also glass bottles thrown against the wall of the agents, about a hundred, in riot gear.

[link to www.ansa.it (secure)]


SKY NEWS REPORTER BEATEN BY PROTESTERS

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

Personal notes: I think this is just the beginning... They are rioting against the curfew applied from 11pm to 5am...
What could happen with a full lockdown... ?
 Quoting: Leonero

I noticed most of these rioters seemed to have their facemasks on.

If they did not believe the Coronavirus is real they would not bother to keep their facemasks on, would they?

So they do believe it's real, yet at the same time they ?protest the lockdown! Are they bringing another solution to the table?
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O wow! Now they talk abou a nation wide lockdown, whatever it means. But i can assure you, this will take another month they do that eventually.
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Lockdowns accomplish the intended goal because at the same time they also make superspreader events impossible.

A Dutch data analyst (I think Ab Oosterhuis or some other guy named Ad something) said months ago (before Summer) that if ALL superspreader events were banned, R0 would go down below 1 and the virus would not spread anymore. As we all know, superspreader events have gone on.

I think dozens, maybe hundreds of children standing close together during recess, on the school grounds (about 0.50 m at most, I watched it) often without facemasks, many eating and having their facemasks down, definitely qualifies as superspreader events. Let's say this happened just in ONE single school (the one that was showed on TV, in Belgium) EVERY SINGLE DAY, SEVERAL TIMES A DAY.

This would mean as many superspreader events, involving a part of the population known to be heave spreaders already.





GLP