WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

This happens everywhere in Europe.


I have said that if schools are open through October, the virus will most likely mutate to adapt to more powerful immune systems, and the impact will be felt especially among 30 to 50 years old.


This mutation effects will be clear as day around mid-November, when most patients will be under 50, across Europe, and when elderly people who get infected will die much faster then before.

Is Mad Max still on the table for the USSA?

You are wrong. We're not in March.


It doesn't matter if young people stop partying...the virus is endemic, and people will get infected at work, home and school.


We can stop partying all in same time, it won't even budge the pandemic.


The effect of curfews, NOW, it's basically ZERO. Schools are open, workplaces are open, mass transit is open, flights almost at pre-pandemic levels...a night curfew is irrelevant.


It will only NOT ADD more cases, but it won't change the current trend.


Not even a bit.

I predict that it won't go well. We have way too many morons here. Thank you for helping some of us understand the gravity of the situation. You deserve a medal. :)

Why do you guys think that the US will do another lockdown, when the first one was unworkable? I was travelling interstate in the last one, and nobody said boo to me. Stores were packed, not to mention the parks. Lockdowns actually concentrate more people in fewer places, making it easier to get the virus, imo.

Besides, there is NO political support for lockdowns of any sort - the riots would be insane, not to mention outright disobeyal of lockdown orders.

Martial law? Ha. We've never had martial law in this country - to think that American citizens will enforce a lockdown against their countrymen is ludicrous. It. Will. Never. Happen.

Besides, cases in Georgia, North Carolina and Florida (states I bounce around like a pinball constantly) have not increased that much, and I seriously doubt we'll see a repeat of the summer surge.

Like the Spanish Flu, this will peak after a couple month and than wane. It's how epidemics work.

Oh yeah, I've never followed any covid protocols since the beginning (since I never, ever trust the gooobermint) and I've yet to contract the virus. Maybe I have, but don't know it yet. In the meantime, I'll socialize, shake hands and even share joints around, like I always have. It can't be THAT easy to catch this thing, if my personal experience is anything to go by.

It's sure fun to read about some hard-core doom, though - beats all this political crap in the US right now.

DR thanks for your update. Last night on the news they said St. Louis hospitals were almost full. Already. I live in Illinois outside St. Louis and our hospitals are also almost full and some are full at times. The people in Central and Southern Illinois are not listening to our Governor. They are keeping restaurants and bars open when he has ordered them closed for inside service. The police and local officials are also refusing to do anything to enforce his orders. He is trying to send in the State Police but they are only talking to the businesses. If we have another full lock down in the state I don't think people will obey. About half the people here think Covid is real and half think it is fake. Maybe November will change some minds.

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it's getting crazy in Europe.To say that it's wild weasel is a understatement

Fearing its health system could be overwhelmed, the Czech Republic has erected its first army field hospital in Prague.

(ANSA) - PARIS, OCTOBER 27 - The French government foresees a national lockdown for one month starting from midnight on Thursday: this is what BFM-TV reports on the eve of the intervention of President Emmanuel Macron. The issuer specifies that the lockdown will be more flexible than that of last spring.



It looks like it's already on French Government plan

News from Italy

Covid: in Puglia indefinite stop for ordinary hospitalizations

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In Milan 70 positive Covid policemen: "It is difficult to isolate the infected in the barracks, we need hotels for us"

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Covid, Brusaferro (ISS): "Tracking is no longer sustainable"

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Same for Brazil. Virus is declining fast here.

It declined in Europe in the Summer...my advice for you, get ready for second wave in Brazil.


It is going to be worse then Europe...lucky for you, you will SEE what is going to happen in Europe, long before Brazil's second wave starts.


Just imagine Brazil's second wave about twice as bad as Europe's one at the end of November.

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Same for Argentina :( I think we will go 50000 cases a day when second wave arrives.

What about South Korea? Is it pretty much gonna stay around the 50-100 case mark throughout the winter here? No need for lockdowns right?

More famous last words.

And China is doing great.

Yes, you guys did what you supposed to do, and the right time.


I can say with 99.99% certitude that South Korea is not going to see any dramatic increase in the second wave.




If anything, there might be, but I doubt it will, some spikes similar to first wave.

Last Edited by Recollector on 10/27/2020 07:57 PM

Why do you believe it is going to be so much worse in Brazil? What is in play there?

Poverty.

Been here since page one. Totally agree with op and been making preps for years. I just have a hard time realizing that this might be the downfall of our civilization. Is it really going to fall? I do realize that once hospitals are full and people get sick and die in large it will be mayhem. Will it be mad max? Do I have to pay a large amount of taxe in December or should I use the money on preps? Lots of questions. Stay safe everyone, shit storm is coming.

Corruption, poverty, subpar medical system.


It's not that the virus will be different there, it's just that Brazil is ill equipped for that, and the death toll will be at least twice then what Europe or U.S. will have this second wave.

When I said that a mad max like scenario is possible, I think many people took it literally.

It is hard to think that our civilization might fall, and it is pretty much impossible that this will happen.


When I said mad max like scenario, I simply thought martial law, anarchy in big cities, food shortages and high criminality.


That is, in my view, compared to the life we lived in the last 30-40 years, a mad max like scenario. This scenario can happen, and if the governments don't play smart, it WILL happen.



I do not think our civilization will fall, except nuclear war. A conventional, non-nuclear WW3 will be bad, sure, but it won't lead to the fall of our civilization.


We will take a blow-back, if non-nuclear WW3, maybe we will slow our natural progress by 20-30 years, but civilization won't fall. We're just too far ahead.


Only nuclear war can destroy our civilization...or a bio-weapon.


Is this virus a bio-weapon strong enough to destroy us? Are the effects on fertility big enough to push us to a slow death, like in Children of men?


I don't know, and frankly, I personally don't care. What happens, happens.


But if this is not a bio-weapon designed to slowly kills us, and I MUST think that it is not, all I can do is try to predict and prepare for what is happening, and be prepared to come out at the other end in one piece.


That is all I want, because it is the only thing that I can at least partially control : prepping at the best of my abilities.


Is it going to be worse then martial law, anarchy, food shortages, high criminality?


Dunno. If it will be, I can't do shit about it. If it won't be, I over prepared.

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Thanks DR for your recent updates.
I am always in Godlike looking for posting from 2 persons, one is you, the other is Uncle Doom.
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So Spain seems to have some kind of lockdown going and the duration is leading up to May 2021..

Remember in the spring? Mid May was the run up date used by many/most countries.

So what I’m looking for, is a mid November lockdown. The date of mid May will once again be used. For reasons explained previously, also in above link.

DR have to disagree. You’re missing a few large factors. The whole system will crash and mad max is an understatement. We are talking famine, no medical facilities, social breakdown, a rampant mutated virus, most importantly mass earth changes, the likes of which can wipe out millions in minutes. Think back to the Indonesian earthquake and tsunami. We will have a 500ft wave come into Europe for example. Then add to this sleeper cell of Arabic origin ready to activate and you have yourself mad max. Missed out a lot too.

Anyone reading this must not underestimate what we are in for. You cannot be one dimensional in planning.

Btw Czech has recorded a record daily infection rate of 15,663 and a death rate of 182. One of the ministers has claimed this is doable by the hospitals, even if numbers go up to 19,000.

He said also that if it hits 25,000 by Friday then restrictions would be tightened. Clearly talking BS. There is medical aid being sent by Hungary, Italy and the Germans are helping treat people. So things aren’t quite fine at this rate. Basically weaving a story to reassure the masses. Curfew is in place, so this is one aspect of martial law. We just need the troops on the streets..

The virus has to mutate to something that will have even perhaps 50% fatality rate. My prediction is that this will occur before spring. Take all I mentioned in the post above into consideration. After all is said and done and each scenario has occurred. 90% of the population are gone! The virus couldn’t deal this blow on its own (in the allotted time frame, which is short) but is being used as a means to further the goal of depopulation. The chip is an important aspect in this, which will pave the way for the global civilization, that’s their goal, but the are many variables.

Just see this headline. SAGE warns lockdown before December for UK

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I also forgot to mention. There is a professor here who has a model predicting 2000 dead a day here by December. Point here is that this is official info for the masses. That’s a lean scenario. As we progress into 2021 my forecast is far bleaker. It should be like the movies then. Terrible as it is atm (respects to all deceased) this is nothing and we still have far too many cocky people walking around. Soon cocky people will be a thing of the past.

It should be the other way around, they should be rationing hospitalizations for COVID. First, do no harm.

If you want to comment on my thread, stick to logic.


The logic is to move resources from non-Covid to Covid, for a simple reason : the number of hospitalizations from Covid is on the rise and will be on the rise for months, bar full lock-downs.

When one country have a set hospital capacity and resources, there aren't many ways to deal with a surge in patients, no matter why the surge is taking place.



And the first step is ALWAYS to shift resources to deal with the surge. It was always like that...because it is logical.


If there is a secondary surge in patients, for a different reason then first surge, and it is simultaneous with the first surge, the next step is to increase the capacity and resources from outside, like army hospitals, army doctors, and medical staff from areas that aren't affected by the surges.


If the surge continues, the next step is to increase capacity and resources from ALL AVAILABLE SOURCES, like military, retired medical staff and medical students.


But the first step will ALWAYS BE shifting resources and capacity to deal with the surge, again, NO MATTER what is the reason : pandemic, war, natural cataclysms, car pileups, nuclear accident, etc.


This is not about "do no harm".

This is about a medical crisis.

Thanks DR for all hard work that you are doing. Your predictions are amazingly close to real life. They are very helpful in my planning to survive that calamity.

I totally agree with you, in Europe we are all gone beyond any normal preventive actions and I believe there is only one way to stop it: Martial law.

I've lived through martial law in Poland in 1982 (13th December). Tanks on the streets, curfew, big detention centers and so on. It worked at that time. It stopped the Solidarity movement’s strikes and demonstrations for some years. Communist system eventually collapsed but at that time it was bad. (All that are not from Eastern Europe or too young to remember can check the Wikipedia).

At this stage of the pandemic, properly executed martial law is the only way to stop the collapse of our societies across the Europe, which in some places is already starting. Is that or the anarchy will take over.

We should all prepare, it will happen soon.