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Partial Lockdwon in Shenzen?

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November 15th, 2020.
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Is there another update due today?
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November 15th, 2020.
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Is there another update due today?
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Today’s update was earlier in week as not to get lost in the mayhem of today ??

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Partial Lockdwon in Shenzen?

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I don't think so.
It's 5.30am in Shenzen (at the time I am writing)

However, many businessmen went in "teleworking" (working from home) and the city implemented a mass testing project along with contact tracing measures (something similar to SK).
This may explain the discrepancy between 2020 and 2019 traffic data.

Note: asymptomatic cases are not reported from China.

(I have no "official" sources to share. Just people I know who give me info)

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Here in the state of Illinois our Governor will most likely have a lockdown within a week. Maybe 2 weeks. Half of the news from St. Louis is now devoted to Covid and the overwhelmed hospitals.
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Didn't DR say something was to happen today? 11/15?
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Didn't DR say something was to happen today? 11/15?
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It's lights out/bedtime in Europe now, so maybe DR fell asleep.
This thread did indeed have lots of updates when it was pinned over the past week, so maybe that took the place of today's update.
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@op didn't say anything specific would happen today. What he said is that the facts are accelerating at a speed that maybe, (just maybe), the update planned for the 15th could have become irrelevant because it is already known to everyone.
As I understand it, @op believes that the collapse of civilization will come via politics, having a strong catalyst in the US election, and the virus is possibly a military accident that forced TPTB to advance an already pre-planned agenda.

Forgive me if I got it wrong.

I have no baggage and means to even comment on all of this. I just know that the numbers don't lie. And the numbers are saying that the day of civilization is over, there is no more light, we are at night, and every minute it will be darker and colder.
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I think that I am going to have the update today, and not waiting until November 15th.


Maybe I am wrong, but I believe that if I am going to wait until 15th, my message is going to be lost in a sea of events that will overwhelm GLP.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


@op didn't say anything specific would happen today. What he said is that the facts are accelerating at a speed that maybe, (just maybe), the update planned for the 15th could have become irrelevant because it is already known to everyone.
As I understand it, @op believes that the collapse of civilization will come via politics, having a strong catalyst in the US election, and the virus is possibly a military accident that forced TPTB to advance an already pre-planned agenda.

Forgive me if I got it wrong.

I have no baggage and means to even comment on all of this. I just know that the numbers don't lie. And the numbers are saying that the day of civilization is over, there is no more light, we are at night, and every minute it will be darker and colder.
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"Coronavirus, criminal conspiracy", the phrases of Don Livio Fanzaga director of Radio Maria sparked the controversy.


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According to him, the pandemic is a criminal design to bring humanity to its knees and create a new world dominated by fear. A “sanitary and cybernetic dictatorship, creating a new world that is no longer of God the Creator, but that of Satan”. A project that would provide take out all opponents to a project carried out by the world elites, possibly with the complicity of some state.

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"Coronavirus, criminal conspiracy", the phrases of Don Livio Fanzaga director of Radio Maria sparked the controversy.


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According to him, the pandemic is a criminal design to bring humanity to its knees and create a new world dominated by fear. A “sanitary and cybernetic dictatorship, creating a new world that is no longer of God the Creator, but that of Satan”. A project that would provide take out all opponents to a project carried out by the world elites, possibly with the complicity of some state.

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@op didn't say anything specific would happen today. What he said is that the facts are accelerating at a speed that maybe, (just maybe), the update planned for the 15th could have become irrelevant because it is already known to everyone.
As I understand it, @op believes that the collapse of civilization will come via politics, having a strong catalyst in the US election, and the virus is possibly a military accident that forced TPTB to advance an already pre-planned agenda.

Forgive me if I got it wrong.

I have no baggage and means to even comment on all of this. I just know that the numbers don't lie. And the numbers are saying that the day of civilization is over, there is no more light, we are at night, and every minute it will be darker and colder.
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


I will use your reply for another update.


This update is a short reminder of what I have posted in the recent days, with a CLEAR SCOPE : to tell you guys why I have considered November 15th, 2020, the day when events will start to accelerate, on all fronts.



On November 8th, I posted my "political" update. It wasn't received well, and I am to blame for this.

However, this thread is not exclusively about the numbers, and I accepted replies that were about politics, religion, prepping, astrology and even cosmic events, as long as they were not too far out, and the thread will still maintain it's "pandemic only" characteristic.


Maybe I went too far in my "political" update, but I believe that what I have said was correct...and what happened in the days after Nov.8th, confirm my theory.



So, some excerpts from my Nov. 8th update :

I said, a long time ago, that I have my theory on what is going on, but I have avoided to tell it, because while it is not unheard of, it is still outside the goal of the thread, which is about the pandemic, and not the conspiracy behind it.

I have hinted, in the past, that anarchy and martial law is coming by the end of this year, and mad max scenario is still a probability.

Once the fraud will be crystal clear, with undeniable proofs, and SCOTUS still deciding in favor of Biden and the globalists, Trump will do what no President did before him, and this is going to be the UNPRECEDENTED EVENT : he will not accept the treachery and will CALL ALL AMERICANS to defend the U.S. and the Constitution.


And the patriots will answer. The globalists forces will react, sending in Antifa, BLM and other organizations to fight the "enemy".


This is the perfect solution for civil war / anarchy : dismiss the fraud and play Trump's unavoidable response to such treachery.





Basically, on Nov.8th, I have said that the elections in the U.S. were stolen, the fraud will be crystal clear, but despite this, the elections will be considered fair, Biden will be officially called the next President, but Trump will not concede and call in all patriots to defend America and the Constitution, all this shenanigans ending up in Civil War in the U.S.


The pandemic role in all of the above is simple : the globalists will used it as an opportunity, and hasten their plans.




Some excerpts from my update on November 12th.:


What is going to happen in the next days and weeks, is going to be unbelievable.

Things that were considered, by most people, impossible to happen...will happen, starting in the next days, and continuing, with tremendous speed, in the next weeks.




Everyone is expecting Trump to turn this around, LEGALLY : recounts, ballot canvasing, removal of illegal ballots (be it because they were late, or fraudulent, or whatever), or pushing the elections to SCOTUS and later to the House of Representatives.

The NWO blatantly STOLE the elections...and I don't think that they will just roll over and let Trump turn it around. They have ALREADY cross a dangerous red lane...they will cross ALL the red lines.



If the NWO is going to let Trump turn this around, it will be for a single reason : provoking civil war in the U.S., force Trump to declare martial law, and once it will be over, they will DEMONIZE Trump and the Republicans for the civil war, using their immense power of manipulation and control of all sources of information.

Check the video in this thread :

Thread: Paul Weston: This Coup D'Etat Could Lead to U.S. Civil War — from YouTube. Definitely worth watching!

(Just like Paul Weston, I did not CALLED for bloodshed in the U.S....but I see it coming)


The Million MAGA March on November 14th was a breath away from turning into the start of the Civil War. There were clashes and street brawls...it wasn't far from turning into a bloodbath.

Thank God, it didn't.



But, I remind you all that when I said that the NWO will go ALL THE WAY to get rid of Trump, I was serious, and looking at what happened just AFTER the Million MAGA March, confirms my theory.


First, the so-called recounts of votes are STILL DONE w/o the presence of Republican observers.

Secondly, Dominion software have a built-in program for recounts...and it will obviously recount the same way as it counted.

Trump's tweets are clear cut : he won't concede, no matter what, because the elections were obviously stolen.



We are rapidly approaching the moment when the elections will be ruled in favor of Biden, and the last resort that Trump have is Supreme Court of the United States, in the hopes that they will nullify the elections in enough states, so no candidate gets 270 electoral votes.


I believe that SCOTUS will NOT DO THAT. I believe that SCOTUS might invalidate some state elections, but not enough for Biden to go under 270.



When we will get to that point, because I believe that SCOTUS is IN THE GAME of removing Trump (hence, giving the U.S. to the globalists), what is left from my prediction is Trump not to concede, and patriots uprising en masse.


The pandemic goes as I expected. Lock-downs are popping up everywhere. It is not going to work. The most, it will plateau the pandemic, or even show a small decrease, for the next 3 weeks, but another spike will happen in Europe in early December.


The events will start rolling at great speed, from now on, from U.S. gripped by unrest and civil war-like armed clashes, to Europe seeing widespread unrest.


I know that Christmas is on 25th of December...but I really don't see it happening.



This thread intent is to have everyone preparing for what is coming. The pandemic is clearly going to get worse. But as I said multiple times before, unexpected events will delay or hasten the mad max-like scenario, and one of those events is clearly what is happening in the U.S.


It is NOT my fault that the events in the U.S. are POLITICAL by nature, and while this thread is about the pandemic, I cannot ignore events of such magnitude, especially because they are taking place EXACTLY because of the pandemic.



So, I am sorry that I am still talking about this, but I don't see why those that visit this thread and prepared for the pandemic (which will last at least one more year) not to prepare for something even worse...and that is a societal collapse, brought by the pandemic AND events outside the pandemic, which, sadly, are taking place in the same time frame.

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Thanks, DR. I'm still present and agree. I think time will tell but it's going to be an interesting ride for sure.
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@op didn't say anything specific would happen today. What he said is that the facts are accelerating at a speed that maybe, (just maybe), the update planned for the 15th could have become irrelevant because it is already known to everyone.
As I understand it, @op believes that the collapse of civilization will come via politics, having a strong catalyst in the US election, and the virus is possibly a military accident that forced TPTB to advance an already pre-planned agenda.

Forgive me if I got it wrong.

I have no baggage and means to even comment on all of this. I just know that the numbers don't lie. And the numbers are saying that the day of civilization is over, there is no more light, we are at night, and every minute it will be darker and colder.
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


I will use your reply for another update.


This update is a short reminder of what I have posted in the recent days, with a CLEAR SCOPE : to tell you guys why I have considered November 15th, 2020, the day when events will start to accelerate, on all fronts.



On November 8th, I posted my "political" update. It wasn't received well, and I am to blame for this.

However, this thread is not exclusively about the numbers, and I accepted replies that were about politics, religion, prepping, astrology and even cosmic events, as long as they were not too far out, and the thread will still maintain it's "pandemic only" characteristic.


Maybe I went too far in my "political" update, but I believe that what I have said was correct...and what happened in the days after Nov.8th, confirm my theory.



So, some excerpts from my Nov. 8th update :

I said, a long time ago, that I have my theory on what is going on, but I have avoided to tell it, because while it is not unheard of, it is still outside the goal of the thread, which is about the pandemic, and not the conspiracy behind it.

I have hinted, in the past, that anarchy and martial law is coming by the end of this year, and mad max scenario is still a probability.

Once the fraud will be crystal clear, with undeniable proofs, and SCOTUS still deciding in favor of Biden and the globalists, Trump will do what no President did before him, and this is going to be the UNPRECEDENTED EVENT : he will not accept the treachery and will CALL ALL AMERICANS to defend the U.S. and the Constitution.


And the patriots will answer. The globalists forces will react, sending in Antifa, BLM and other organizations to fight the "enemy".


This is the perfect solution for civil war / anarchy : dismiss the fraud and play Trump's unavoidable response to such treachery.





Basically, on Nov.8th, I have said that the elections in the U.S. were stolen, the fraud will be crystal clear, but despite this, the elections will be considered fair, Biden will be officially called the next President, but Trump will not concede and call in all patriots to defend America and the Constitution, all this shenanigans ending up in Civil War in the U.S.


The pandemic role in all of the above is simple : the globalists will used it as an opportunity, and hasten their plans.




Some excerpts from my update on November 12th.:


What is going to happen in the next days and weeks, is going to be unbelievable.

Things that were considered, by most people, impossible to happen...will happen, starting in the next days, and continuing, with tremendous speed, in the next weeks.




Everyone is expecting Trump to turn this around, LEGALLY : recounts, ballot canvasing, removal of illegal ballots (be it because they were late, or fraudulent, or whatever), or pushing the elections to SCOTUS and later to the House of Representatives.

The NWO blatantly STOLE the elections...and I don't think that they will just roll over and let Trump turn it around. They have ALREADY cross a dangerous red lane...they will cross ALL the red lines.



If the NWO is going to let Trump turn this around, it will be for a single reason : provoking civil war in the U.S., force Trump to declare martial law, and once it will be over, they will DEMONIZE Trump and the Republicans for the civil war, using their immense power of manipulation and control of all sources of information.

Check the video in this thread :

Thread: Paul Weston: This Coup D'Etat Could Lead to U.S. Civil War — from YouTube. Definitely worth watching!

(Just like Paul Weston, I did not CALLED for bloodshed in the U.S....but I see it coming)


The Million MAGA March on November 14th was a breath away from turning into the start of the Civil War. There were clashes and street brawls...it wasn't far from turning into a bloodbath.

Thank God, it didn't.



But, I remind you all that when I said that the NWO will go ALL THE WAY to get rid of Trump, I was serious, and looking at what happened just AFTER the Million MAGA March, confirms my theory.


First, the so-called recounts of votes are STILL DONE w/o the presence of Republican observers.

Secondly, Dominion software have a built-in program for recounts...and it will obviously recount the same way as it counted.

Trump's tweets are clear cut : he won't concede, no matter what, because the elections were obviously stolen.



We are rapidly approaching the moment when the elections will be ruled in favor of Biden, and the last resort that Trump have is Supreme Court of the United States, in the hopes that they will nullify the elections in enough states, so no candidate gets 270 electoral votes.


I believe that SCOTUS will NOT DO THAT. I believe that SCOTUS might invalidate some state elections, but not enough for Biden to go under 270.



When we will get to that point, because I believe that SCOTUS is IN THE GAME of removing Trump (hence, giving the U.S. to the globalists), what is left from my prediction is Trump not to concede, and patriots uprising en masse.


The pandemic goes as I expected. Lock-downs are popping up everywhere. It is not going to work. The most, it will plateau the pandemic, or even show a small decrease, for the next 3 weeks, but another spike will happen in Europe in early December.


The events will start rolling at great speed, from now on, from U.S. gripped by unrest and civil war-like armed clashes, to Europe seeing widespread unrest.


I know that Christmas is on 25th of December...but I really don't see it happening.



This thread intent is to have everyone preparing for what is coming. The pandemic is clearly going to get worse. But as I said multiple times before, unexpected events will delay or hasten the mad max-like scenario, and one of those events is clearly what is happening in the U.S.


It is NOT my fault that the events in the U.S. are POLITICAL by nature, and while this thread is about the pandemic, I cannot ignore events of such magnitude, especially because they are taking place EXACTLY because of the pandemic.



So, I am sorry that I am still talking about this, but I don't see why those that visit this thread and prepared for the pandemic (which will last at least one more year) not to prepare for something even worse...and that is a societal collapse, brought by the pandemic AND events outside the pandemic, which, sadly, are taking place in the same time frame.
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The only people that did not take well your update are those invested with either side winning and can’t see that at this heights it doesn’t matter much as the NWO can only be stopped by the people of the US and not by Trump alone.

I hope more people realize of that soon. Thanks for your updates again DR.
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DR.... appreciate you.

OY.... Pepe, dude.... not true. We just are trying to get folks to see the us versus them thing can be avoided.

It’s a wealthy group pulling puppet strings. Keep the peasants in place.

Some cities are likely to collapse from this pressure, but it won’t be as widespread as it seems.

hugs

Stay safe.

I am in Iowa number hell. Hermit mode intensified.
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DR.... appreciate you.

OY.... Pepe, dude.... not true. We just are trying to get folks to see the us versus them thing can be avoided.

It’s a wealthy group pulling puppet strings. Keep the peasants in place.

Some cities are likely to collapse from this pressure, but it won’t be as widespread as it seems.

hugs

Stay safe.

I am in Iowa number hell. Hermit mode intensified.
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Thanks CC, I am not depressed or anything, just seeing things unfold with great curiosity as to what is going to be the end result. I am fortunately in a lull between waves, but I have tightened my personal security and COVID avoidance measures because when you relax is when you are at highest risk of getting it.
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@op didn't say anything specific would happen today. What he said is that the facts are accelerating at a speed that maybe, (just maybe), the update planned for the 15th could have become irrelevant because it is already known to everyone.
As I understand it, @op believes that the collapse of civilization will come via politics, having a strong catalyst in the US election, and the virus is possibly a military accident that forced TPTB to advance an already pre-planned agenda.

Forgive me if I got it wrong.

I have no baggage and means to even comment on all of this. I just know that the numbers don't lie. And the numbers are saying that the day of civilization is over, there is no more light, we are at night, and every minute it will be darker and colder.
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


I will use your reply for another update.


This update is a short reminder of what I have posted in the recent days, with a CLEAR SCOPE : to tell you guys why I have considered November 15th, 2020, the day when events will start to accelerate, on all fronts.



On November 8th, I posted my "political" update. It wasn't received well, and I am to blame for this.

However, this thread is not exclusively about the numbers, and I accepted replies that were about politics, religion, prepping, astrology and even cosmic events, as long as they were not too far out, and the thread will still maintain it's "pandemic only" characteristic.


Maybe I went too far in my "political" update, but I believe that what I have said was correct...and what happened in the days after Nov.8th, confirm my theory.



So, some excerpts from my Nov. 8th update :

I said, a long time ago, that I have my theory on what is going on, but I have avoided to tell it, because while it is not unheard of, it is still outside the goal of the thread, which is about the pandemic, and not the conspiracy behind it.

I have hinted, in the past, that anarchy and martial law is coming by the end of this year, and mad max scenario is still a probability.

Once the fraud will be crystal clear, with undeniable proofs, and SCOTUS still deciding in favor of Biden and the globalists, Trump will do what no President did before him, and this is going to be the UNPRECEDENTED EVENT : he will not accept the treachery and will CALL ALL AMERICANS to defend the U.S. and the Constitution.


And the patriots will answer. The globalists forces will react, sending in Antifa, BLM and other organizations to fight the "enemy".


This is the perfect solution for civil war / anarchy : dismiss the fraud and play Trump's unavoidable response to such treachery.





Basically, on Nov.8th, I have said that the elections in the U.S. were stolen, the fraud will be crystal clear, but despite this, the elections will be considered fair, Biden will be officially called the next President, but Trump will not concede and call in all patriots to defend America and the Constitution, all this shenanigans ending up in Civil War in the U.S.


The pandemic role in all of the above is simple : the globalists will used it as an opportunity, and hasten their plans.




Some excerpts from my update on November 12th.:


What is going to happen in the next days and weeks, is going to be unbelievable.

Things that were considered, by most people, impossible to happen...will happen, starting in the next days, and continuing, with tremendous speed, in the next weeks.




Everyone is expecting Trump to turn this around, LEGALLY : recounts, ballot canvasing, removal of illegal ballots (be it because they were late, or fraudulent, or whatever), or pushing the elections to SCOTUS and later to the House of Representatives.

The NWO blatantly STOLE the elections...and I don't think that they will just roll over and let Trump turn it around. They have ALREADY cross a dangerous red lane...they will cross ALL the red lines.



If the NWO is going to let Trump turn this around, it will be for a single reason : provoking civil war in the U.S., force Trump to declare martial law, and once it will be over, they will DEMONIZE Trump and the Republicans for the civil war, using their immense power of manipulation and control of all sources of information.

Check the video in this thread :

Thread: Paul Weston: This Coup D'Etat Could Lead to U.S. Civil War — from YouTube. Definitely worth watching!

(Just like Paul Weston, I did not CALLED for bloodshed in the U.S....but I see it coming)


The Million MAGA March on November 14th was a breath away from turning into the start of the Civil War. There were clashes and street brawls...it wasn't far from turning into a bloodbath.

Thank God, it didn't.



But, I remind you all that when I said that the NWO will go ALL THE WAY to get rid of Trump, I was serious, and looking at what happened just AFTER the Million MAGA March, confirms my theory.


First, the so-called recounts of votes are STILL DONE w/o the presence of Republican observers.

Secondly, Dominion software have a built-in program for recounts...and it will obviously recount the same way as it counted.

Trump's tweets are clear cut : he won't concede, no matter what, because the elections were obviously stolen.



We are rapidly approaching the moment when the elections will be ruled in favor of Biden, and the last resort that Trump have is Supreme Court of the United States, in the hopes that they will nullify the elections in enough states, so no candidate gets 270 electoral votes.


I believe that SCOTUS will NOT DO THAT. I believe that SCOTUS might invalidate some state elections, but not enough for Biden to go under 270.



When we will get to that point, because I believe that SCOTUS is IN THE GAME of removing Trump (hence, giving the U.S. to the globalists), what is left from my prediction is Trump not to concede, and patriots uprising en masse.


The pandemic goes as I expected. Lock-downs are popping up everywhere. It is not going to work. The most, it will plateau the pandemic, or even show a small decrease, for the next 3 weeks, but another spike will happen in Europe in early December.


The events will start rolling at great speed, from now on, from U.S. gripped by unrest and civil war-like armed clashes, to Europe seeing widespread unrest.


I know that Christmas is on 25th of December...but I really don't see it happening.



This thread intent is to have everyone preparing for what is coming. The pandemic is clearly going to get worse. But as I said multiple times before, unexpected events will delay or hasten the mad max-like scenario, and one of those events is clearly what is happening in the U.S.


It is NOT my fault that the events in the U.S. are POLITICAL by nature, and while this thread is about the pandemic, I cannot ignore events of such magnitude, especially because they are taking place EXACTLY because of the pandemic.



So, I am sorry that I am still talking about this, but I don't see why those that visit this thread and prepared for the pandemic (which will last at least one more year) not to prepare for something even worse...and that is a societal collapse, brought by the pandemic AND events outside the pandemic, which, sadly, are taking place in the same time frame.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


DR: I have been following your updates and the information you post regularly, and I have found you to be insightful and rational in your thoughts. I have a lot of respect for your input.

But let me say this about the political angle: Everything I'm seeing indicates that any fraud in the election process was minimal, and President Trump himself even said it was the most secure election in history. Yet, despite that, he still claims it was rigged.

Nevertheless, is it possible there is a grand left-wing conspiracy to steal the election and take Trump down? If I am to remain honest with myself and everyone else, I have to admit it's possible. To do otherwise would make me a blind believer that the system works, and I have seen too much of the system to go down that rabbit hole. The level of governmental corruption I have witnessed in my lifetime from both parties has soured my belief in America as a shining example of democracy to the rest of the world. That America no longer exists. Perhaps it never did.

One question that someone needs to answer to my satisfaction is: If Democrats truly did rig the election in their favor, why do Republicans still have control of the Senate? It seems to me that if you're going to commit a federal felony by rigging the Presidential election, it's only a small step further to rig the Senate races too. Why would they not give themselves both the White House AND Congress??? As it stands now, Democrats control the White House and the House, but Republicans still have the Senate and SCOTUS. And that means Biden will not be able to accomplish a damn thing that Republicans are all concerned about.

However, all that being said, the observation I'm going to share with you is one I have been making since summer. I honestly do not think it mattered who "won" the election - the violence you are predicting was going to happen no matter what. This country has been on a path to destroy itself from the inside out for a long time, but it really started to ramp up with the George W. Bush and Barrack Obama administrations. In my mind, that is when we crossed the point of no return and the country become so polarized that recovery is now impossible. Whether it happens this year, or in 2024 when Trump runs for a second term, or in 2028 when Democrats and Republicans both put extremist candidates in play rather than moderates, it's going to happen.

As with most conflicts, it will start with a single incident. Something will be the spark that ignites all the gasoline we've been pouring on ourselves for the past two decades, and the country will erupt and descend into total chaos. It is possible the virus is that catalyst, but that remains to be seen.

When Americans turn on Americans, this country is lost. America's enemies will have succeeded in destroying us without launching a single missile. China will most likely emerge as the new global economic and military hyperpower.

As for me, I will refuse to pick a side. The Republican and Democrat parties of today have no resemblance to the Republican and Democrat parties I grew up with, and in my mind they are both equally responsible for what is about to happen to America. I will not be party to firing on fellow Americans based on nothing more than their political ideology. That is NOT what this country is. My wife and I have contingency plans in place to weather the storm out of sight and out of mind, after which we will most likely quietly leave the country, refugees of a failed experiment 250 years in the making.

I hope it doesn't come to that. I hope people start to wake up to the fact that no matter which political party they support, they are being played by both sides. But I am not optimistic. The damage is severe and the wounds on both sides run deep.

I wish everyone here - both conservative and liberal (as well as us centrist moderates) - the best of luck in what is coming. I hope you are prepared for what's about to happen. It's going to make the American Civil War look like a minor skirmish.
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@op didn't say anything specific would happen today. What he said is that the facts are accelerating at a speed that maybe, (just maybe), the update planned for the 15th could have become irrelevant because it is already known to everyone.
As I understand it, @op believes that the collapse of civilization will come via politics, having a strong catalyst in the US election, and the virus is possibly a military accident that forced TPTB to advance an already pre-planned agenda.

Forgive me if I got it wrong.

I have no baggage and means to even comment on all of this. I just know that the numbers don't lie. And the numbers are saying that the day of civilization is over, there is no more light, we are at night, and every minute it will be darker and colder.
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


I will use your reply for another update.


This update is a short reminder of what I have posted in the recent days, with a CLEAR SCOPE : to tell you guys why I have considered November 15th, 2020, the day when events will start to accelerate, on all fronts.



On November 8th, I posted my "political" update. It wasn't received well, and I am to blame for this.

However, this thread is not exclusively about the numbers, and I accepted replies that were about politics, religion, prepping, astrology and even cosmic events, as long as they were not too far out, and the thread will still maintain it's "pandemic only" characteristic.


Maybe I went too far in my "political" update, but I believe that what I have said was correct...and what happened in the days after Nov.8th, confirm my theory.



So, some excerpts from my Nov. 8th update :

I said, a long time ago, that I have my theory on what is going on, but I have avoided to tell it, because while it is not unheard of, it is still outside the goal of the thread, which is about the pandemic, and not the conspiracy behind it.

I have hinted, in the past, that anarchy and martial law is coming by the end of this year, and mad max scenario is still a probability.

Once the fraud will be crystal clear, with undeniable proofs, and SCOTUS still deciding in favor of Biden and the globalists, Trump will do what no President did before him, and this is going to be the UNPRECEDENTED EVENT : he will not accept the treachery and will CALL ALL AMERICANS to defend the U.S. and the Constitution.


And the patriots will answer. The globalists forces will react, sending in Antifa, BLM and other organizations to fight the "enemy".


This is the perfect solution for civil war / anarchy : dismiss the fraud and play Trump's unavoidable response to such treachery.





Basically, on Nov.8th, I have said that the elections in the U.S. were stolen, the fraud will be crystal clear, but despite this, the elections will be considered fair, Biden will be officially called the next President, but Trump will not concede and call in all patriots to defend America and the Constitution, all this shenanigans ending up in Civil War in the U.S.


The pandemic role in all of the above is simple : the globalists will used it as an opportunity, and hasten their plans.




Some excerpts from my update on November 12th.:


What is going to happen in the next days and weeks, is going to be unbelievable.

Things that were considered, by most people, impossible to happen...will happen, starting in the next days, and continuing, with tremendous speed, in the next weeks.




Everyone is expecting Trump to turn this around, LEGALLY : recounts, ballot canvasing, removal of illegal ballots (be it because they were late, or fraudulent, or whatever), or pushing the elections to SCOTUS and later to the House of Representatives.

The NWO blatantly STOLE the elections...and I don't think that they will just roll over and let Trump turn it around. They have ALREADY cross a dangerous red lane...they will cross ALL the red lines.



If the NWO is going to let Trump turn this around, it will be for a single reason : provoking civil war in the U.S., force Trump to declare martial law, and once it will be over, they will DEMONIZE Trump and the Republicans for the civil war, using their immense power of manipulation and control of all sources of information.

Check the video in this thread :

Thread: Paul Weston: This Coup D'Etat Could Lead to U.S. Civil War — from YouTube. Definitely worth watching!

(Just like Paul Weston, I did not CALLED for bloodshed in the U.S....but I see it coming)


The Million MAGA March on November 14th was a breath away from turning into the start of the Civil War. There were clashes and street brawls...it wasn't far from turning into a bloodbath.

Thank God, it didn't.



But, I remind you all that when I said that the NWO will go ALL THE WAY to get rid of Trump, I was serious, and looking at what happened just AFTER the Million MAGA March, confirms my theory.


First, the so-called recounts of votes are STILL DONE w/o the presence of Republican observers.

Secondly, Dominion software have a built-in program for recounts...and it will obviously recount the same way as it counted.

Trump's tweets are clear cut : he won't concede, no matter what, because the elections were obviously stolen.



We are rapidly approaching the moment when the elections will be ruled in favor of Biden, and the last resort that Trump have is Supreme Court of the United States, in the hopes that they will nullify the elections in enough states, so no candidate gets 270 electoral votes.


I believe that SCOTUS will NOT DO THAT. I believe that SCOTUS might invalidate some state elections, but not enough for Biden to go under 270.



When we will get to that point, because I believe that SCOTUS is IN THE GAME of removing Trump (hence, giving the U.S. to the globalists), what is left from my prediction is Trump not to concede, and patriots uprising en masse.


The pandemic goes as I expected. Lock-downs are popping up everywhere. It is not going to work. The most, it will plateau the pandemic, or even show a small decrease, for the next 3 weeks, but another spike will happen in Europe in early December.


The events will start rolling at great speed, from now on, from U.S. gripped by unrest and civil war-like armed clashes, to Europe seeing widespread unrest.


I know that Christmas is on 25th of December...but I really don't see it happening.



This thread intent is to have everyone preparing for what is coming. The pandemic is clearly going to get worse. But as I said multiple times before, unexpected events will delay or hasten the mad max-like scenario, and one of those events is clearly what is happening in the U.S.


It is NOT my fault that the events in the U.S. are POLITICAL by nature, and while this thread is about the pandemic, I cannot ignore events of such magnitude, especially because they are taking place EXACTLY because of the pandemic.



So, I am sorry that I am still talking about this, but I don't see why those that visit this thread and prepared for the pandemic (which will last at least one more year) not to prepare for something even worse...and that is a societal collapse, brought by the pandemic AND events outside the pandemic, which, sadly, are taking place in the same time frame.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


DR: I have been following your updates and the information you post regularly, and I have found you to be insightful and rational in your thoughts. I have a lot of respect for your input.

But let me say this about the political angle: Everything I'm seeing indicates that any fraud in the election process was minimal, and President Trump himself even said it was the most secure election in history. Yet, despite that, he still claims it was rigged.

Nevertheless, is it possible there is a grand left-wing conspiracy to steal the election and take Trump down? If I am to remain honest with myself and everyone else, I have to admit it's possible. To do otherwise would make me a blind believer that the system works, and I have seen too much of the system to go down that rabbit hole. The level of governmental corruption I have witnessed in my lifetime from both parties has soured my belief in America as a shining example of democracy to the rest of the world. That America no longer exists. Perhaps it never did.

One question that someone needs to answer to my satisfaction is: If Democrats truly did rig the election in their favor, why do Republicans still have control of the Senate? It seems to me that if you're going to commit a federal felony by rigging the Presidential election, it's only a small step further to rig the Senate races too. Why would they not give themselves both the White House AND Congress??? As it stands now, Democrats control the White House and the House, but Republicans still have the Senate and SCOTUS. And that means Biden will not be able to accomplish a damn thing that Republicans are all concerned about.

However, all that being said, the observation I'm going to share with you is one I have been making since summer. I honestly do not think it mattered who "won" the election - the violence you are predicting was going to happen no matter what. This country has been on a path to destroy itself from the inside out for a long time, but it really started to ramp up with the George W. Bush and Barrack Obama administrations. In my mind, that is when we crossed the point of no return and the country become so polarized that recovery is now impossible. Whether it happens this year, or in 2024 when Trump runs for a second term, or in 2028 when Democrats and Republicans both put extremist candidates in play rather than moderates, it's going to happen.

As with most conflicts, it will start with a single incident. Something will be the spark that ignites all the gasoline we've been pouring on ourselves for the past two decades, and the country will erupt and descend into total chaos. It is possible the virus is that catalyst, but that remains to be seen.

When Americans turn on Americans, this country is lost. America's enemies will have succeeded in destroying us without launching a single missile. China will most likely emerge as the new global economic and military hyperpower.

As for me, I will refuse to pick a side. The Republican and Democrat parties of today have no resemblance to the Republican and Democrat parties I grew up with, and in my mind they are both equally responsible for what is about to happen to America. I will not be party to firing on fellow Americans based on nothing more than their political ideology. That is NOT what this country is. My wife and I have contingency plans in place to weather the storm out of sight and out of mind, after which we will most likely quietly leave the country, refugees of a failed experiment 250 years in the making.

I hope it doesn't come to that. I hope people start to wake up to the fact that no matter which political party they support, they are being played by both sides. But I am not optimistic. The damage is severe and the wounds on both sides run deep.

I wish everyone here - both conservative and liberal (as well as us centrist moderates) - the best of luck in what is coming. I hope you are prepared for what's about to happen. It's going to make the American Civil War look like a minor skirmish.
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This, but I attend to agree with alot of what this poster types. Even though there are still alot of sensitive people on the other thread. (Maybe you'll remember my comment and your great response)
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Opee, china fully opened minths ago, i jyst saw footage of a sports stadium with 70,000 people in it, no masks either...

Explain to the group how your model is so far outta touch with reality???
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Don't trust China, AC... Believe me.
And don't trust "western" media that talk about China either.

Every single info about China released outside their borders, is previously approved by CCP before going out.

Real info about China can only be found on their TikTok (which has a different name and functions and is not downloadable via GooglePlayStore or AppStore), their WeChat (same as above. Different app with news services too), QQ or via trustworthy informants.

Yes, China opened almost everything months ago.
But they go on full local (I mean... entire cities) lockdown as soon as they discover 4 or 5 cases.

Regarding masks: in most of the country they still wear masks in public places.
Public even wear masks in TV shows (transparent plastik-like masks).

They fear so much Covid that they put on 14-days-quarantine (into Covid hotels) chinese citizens coming back in their country... Even if they tested negative in the country were they took the plane.
Do you wanna laugh?
This is the best part...
Chinese CDC doesn't trust "western" Covid tests (too many false negative results, they say).

Remember that it is a dictatorship. Everything about containing the pandemic is much easier for government.

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@op didn't say anything specific would happen today. What he said is that the facts are accelerating at a speed that maybe, (just maybe), the update planned for the 15th could have become irrelevant because it is already known to everyone.
As I understand it, @op believes that the collapse of civilization will come via politics, having a strong catalyst in the US election, and the virus is possibly a military accident that forced TPTB to advance an already pre-planned agenda.

Forgive me if I got it wrong.

I have no baggage and means to even comment on all of this. I just know that the numbers don't lie. And the numbers are saying that the day of civilization is over, there is no more light, we are at night, and every minute it will be darker and colder.
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


I will use your reply for another update.


This update is a short reminder of what I have posted in the recent days, with a CLEAR SCOPE : to tell you guys why I have considered November 15th, 2020, the day when events will start to accelerate, on all fronts.



On November 8th, I posted my "political" update. It wasn't received well, and I am to blame for this.

However, this thread is not exclusively about the numbers, and I accepted replies that were about politics, religion, prepping, astrology and even cosmic events, as long as they were not too far out, and the thread will still maintain it's "pandemic only" characteristic.


Maybe I went too far in my "political" update, but I believe that what I have said was correct...and what happened in the days after Nov.8th, confirm my theory.



So, some excerpts from my Nov. 8th update :

I said, a long time ago, that I have my theory on what is going on, but I have avoided to tell it, because while it is not unheard of, it is still outside the goal of the thread, which is about the pandemic, and not the conspiracy behind it.

I have hinted, in the past, that anarchy and martial law is coming by the end of this year, and mad max scenario is still a probability.

Once the fraud will be crystal clear, with undeniable proofs, and SCOTUS still deciding in favor of Biden and the globalists, Trump will do what no President did before him, and this is going to be the UNPRECEDENTED EVENT : he will not accept the treachery and will CALL ALL AMERICANS to defend the U.S. and the Constitution.


And the patriots will answer. The globalists forces will react, sending in Antifa, BLM and other organizations to fight the "enemy".


This is the perfect solution for civil war / anarchy : dismiss the fraud and play Trump's unavoidable response to such treachery.





Basically, on Nov.8th, I have said that the elections in the U.S. were stolen, the fraud will be crystal clear, but despite this, the elections will be considered fair, Biden will be officially called the next President, but Trump will not concede and call in all patriots to defend America and the Constitution, all this shenanigans ending up in Civil War in the U.S.


The pandemic role in all of the above is simple : the globalists will used it as an opportunity, and hasten their plans.




Some excerpts from my update on November 12th.:


What is going to happen in the next days and weeks, is going to be unbelievable.

Things that were considered, by most people, impossible to happen...will happen, starting in the next days, and continuing, with tremendous speed, in the next weeks.




Everyone is expecting Trump to turn this around, LEGALLY : recounts, ballot canvasing, removal of illegal ballots (be it because they were late, or fraudulent, or whatever), or pushing the elections to SCOTUS and later to the House of Representatives.

The NWO blatantly STOLE the elections...and I don't think that they will just roll over and let Trump turn it around. They have ALREADY cross a dangerous red lane...they will cross ALL the red lines.



If the NWO is going to let Trump turn this around, it will be for a single reason : provoking civil war in the U.S., force Trump to declare martial law, and once it will be over, they will DEMONIZE Trump and the Republicans for the civil war, using their immense power of manipulation and control of all sources of information.

Check the video in this thread :

Thread: Paul Weston: This Coup D'Etat Could Lead to U.S. Civil War — from YouTube. Definitely worth watching!

(Just like Paul Weston, I did not CALLED for bloodshed in the U.S....but I see it coming)


The Million MAGA March on November 14th was a breath away from turning into the start of the Civil War. There were clashes and street brawls...it wasn't far from turning into a bloodbath.

Thank God, it didn't.



But, I remind you all that when I said that the NWO will go ALL THE WAY to get rid of Trump, I was serious, and looking at what happened just AFTER the Million MAGA March, confirms my theory.


First, the so-called recounts of votes are STILL DONE w/o the presence of Republican observers.

Secondly, Dominion software have a built-in program for recounts...and it will obviously recount the same way as it counted.

Trump's tweets are clear cut : he won't concede, no matter what, because the elections were obviously stolen.



We are rapidly approaching the moment when the elections will be ruled in favor of Biden, and the last resort that Trump have is Supreme Court of the United States, in the hopes that they will nullify the elections in enough states, so no candidate gets 270 electoral votes.


I believe that SCOTUS will NOT DO THAT. I believe that SCOTUS might invalidate some state elections, but not enough for Biden to go under 270.



When we will get to that point, because I believe that SCOTUS is IN THE GAME of removing Trump (hence, giving the U.S. to the globalists), what is left from my prediction is Trump not to concede, and patriots uprising en masse.


The pandemic goes as I expected. Lock-downs are popping up everywhere. It is not going to work. The most, it will plateau the pandemic, or even show a small decrease, for the next 3 weeks, but another spike will happen in Europe in early December.


The events will start rolling at great speed, from now on, from U.S. gripped by unrest and civil war-like armed clashes, to Europe seeing widespread unrest.


I know that Christmas is on 25th of December...but I really don't see it happening.



This thread intent is to have everyone preparing for what is coming. The pandemic is clearly going to get worse. But as I said multiple times before, unexpected events will delay or hasten the mad max-like scenario, and one of those events is clearly what is happening in the U.S.


It is NOT my fault that the events in the U.S. are POLITICAL by nature, and while this thread is about the pandemic, I cannot ignore events of such magnitude, especially because they are taking place EXACTLY because of the pandemic.



So, I am sorry that I am still talking about this, but I don't see why those that visit this thread and prepared for the pandemic (which will last at least one more year) not to prepare for something even worse...and that is a societal collapse, brought by the pandemic AND events outside the pandemic, which, sadly, are taking place in the same time frame.
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DR: I have been following your updates and the information you post regularly, and I have found you to be insightful and rational in your thoughts. I have a lot of respect for your input.

But let me say this about the political angle: Everything I'm seeing indicates that any fraud in the election process was minimal, and President Trump himself even said it was the most secure election in history. Yet, despite that, he still claims it was rigged.

Nevertheless, is it possible there is a grand left-wing conspiracy to steal the election and take Trump down? If I am to remain honest with myself and everyone else, I have to admit it's possible. To do otherwise would make me a blind believer that the system works, and I have seen too much of the system to go down that rabbit hole. The level of governmental corruption I have witnessed in my lifetime from both parties has soured my belief in America as a shining example of democracy to the rest of the world. That America no longer exists. Perhaps it never did.

One question that someone needs to answer to my satisfaction is: If Democrats truly did rig the election in their favor, why do Republicans still have control of the Senate? It seems to me that if you're going to commit a federal felony by rigging the Presidential election, it's only a small step further to rig the Senate races too. Why would they not give themselves both the White House AND Congress??? As it stands now, Democrats control the White House and the House, but Republicans still have the Senate and SCOTUS. And that means Biden will not be able to accomplish a damn thing that Republicans are all concerned about.

However, all that being said, the observation I'm going to share with you is one I have been making since summer. I honestly do not think it mattered who "won" the election - the violence you are predicting was going to happen no matter what. This country has been on a path to destroy itself from the inside out for a long time, but it really started to ramp up with the George W. Bush and Barrack Obama administrations. In my mind, that is when we crossed the point of no return and the country become so polarized that recovery is now impossible. Whether it happens this year, or in 2024 when Trump runs for a second term, or in 2028 when Democrats and Republicans both put extremist candidates in play rather than moderates, it's going to happen.

As with most conflicts, it will start with a single incident. Something will be the spark that ignites all the gasoline we've been pouring on ourselves for the past two decades, and the country will erupt and descend into total chaos. It is possible the virus is that catalyst, but that remains to be seen.

When Americans turn on Americans, this country is lost. America's enemies will have succeeded in destroying us without launching a single missile. China will most likely emerge as the new global economic and military hyperpower.

As for me, I will refuse to pick a side. The Republican and Democrat parties of today have no resemblance to the Republican and Democrat parties I grew up with, and in my mind they are both equally responsible for what is about to happen to America. I will not be party to firing on fellow Americans based on nothing more than their political ideology. That is NOT what this country is. My wife and I have contingency plans in place to weather the storm out of sight and out of mind, after which we will most likely quietly leave the country, refugees of a failed experiment 250 years in the making.

I hope it doesn't come to that. I hope people start to wake up to the fact that no matter which political party they support, they are being played by both sides. But I am not optimistic. The damage is severe and the wounds on both sides run deep.

I wish everyone here - both conservative and liberal (as well as us centrist moderates) - the best of luck in what is coming. I hope you are prepared for what's about to happen. It's going to make the American Civil War look like a minor skirmish.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff
This, but I attend to agree with alot of what this poster types. Even though there are still alot of sensitive people on the other thread. (Maybe you'll remember my comment and your great response)
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I do remember a good conversation with a Canadian AC, but don't remember the user ID. I assume that was you, then?
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Opee, china fully opened minths ago, i jyst saw footage of a sports stadium with 70,000 people in it, no masks either...

Explain to the group how your model is so far outta touch with reality???
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To be fair, the Chinese government excels at propaganda. Was there anything to indicate *when* that video was actually taken, other than a date/time stamp which can easily be faked?
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I will use your reply for another update.


This update is a short reminder of what I have posted in the recent days, with a CLEAR SCOPE : to tell you guys why I have considered November 15th, 2020, the day when events will start to accelerate, on all fronts.



On November 8th, I posted my "political" update. It wasn't received well, and I am to blame for this.

However, this thread is not exclusively about the numbers, and I accepted replies that were about politics, religion, prepping, astrology and even cosmic events, as long as they were not too far out, and the thread will still maintain it's "pandemic only" characteristic.


Maybe I went too far in my "political" update, but I believe that what I have said was correct...and what happened in the days after Nov.8th, confirm my theory.



So, some excerpts from my Nov. 8th update :

I said, a long time ago, that I have my theory on what is going on, but I have avoided to tell it, because while it is not unheard of, it is still outside the goal of the thread, which is about the pandemic, and not the conspiracy behind it.

I have hinted, in the past, that anarchy and martial law is coming by the end of this year, and mad max scenario is still a probability.

Once the fraud will be crystal clear, with undeniable proofs, and SCOTUS still deciding in favor of Biden and the globalists, Trump will do what no President did before him, and this is going to be the UNPRECEDENTED EVENT : he will not accept the treachery and will CALL ALL AMERICANS to defend the U.S. and the Constitution.


And the patriots will answer. The globalists forces will react, sending in Antifa, BLM and other organizations to fight the "enemy".


This is the perfect solution for civil war / anarchy : dismiss the fraud and play Trump's unavoidable response to such treachery.





Basically, on Nov.8th, I have said that the elections in the U.S. were stolen, the fraud will be crystal clear, but despite this, the elections will be considered fair, Biden will be officially called the next President, but Trump will not concede and call in all patriots to defend America and the Constitution, all this shenanigans ending up in Civil War in the U.S.


The pandemic role in all of the above is simple : the globalists will used it as an opportunity, and hasten their plans.




Some excerpts from my update on November 12th.:


What is going to happen in the next days and weeks, is going to be unbelievable.

Things that were considered, by most people, impossible to happen...will happen, starting in the next days, and continuing, with tremendous speed, in the next weeks.




Everyone is expecting Trump to turn this around, LEGALLY : recounts, ballot canvasing, removal of illegal ballots (be it because they were late, or fraudulent, or whatever), or pushing the elections to SCOTUS and later to the House of Representatives.

The NWO blatantly STOLE the elections...and I don't think that they will just roll over and let Trump turn it around. They have ALREADY cross a dangerous red lane...they will cross ALL the red lines.



If the NWO is going to let Trump turn this around, it will be for a single reason : provoking civil war in the U.S., force Trump to declare martial law, and once it will be over, they will DEMONIZE Trump and the Republicans for the civil war, using their immense power of manipulation and control of all sources of information.

Check the video in this thread :

Thread: Paul Weston: This Coup D'Etat Could Lead to U.S. Civil War — from YouTube. Definitely worth watching!

(Just like Paul Weston, I did not CALLED for bloodshed in the U.S....but I see it coming)


The Million MAGA March on November 14th was a breath away from turning into the start of the Civil War. There were clashes and street brawls...it wasn't far from turning into a bloodbath.

Thank God, it didn't.



But, I remind you all that when I said that the NWO will go ALL THE WAY to get rid of Trump, I was serious, and looking at what happened just AFTER the Million MAGA March, confirms my theory.


First, the so-called recounts of votes are STILL DONE w/o the presence of Republican observers.

Secondly, Dominion software have a built-in program for recounts...and it will obviously recount the same way as it counted.

Trump's tweets are clear cut : he won't concede, no matter what, because the elections were obviously stolen.



We are rapidly approaching the moment when the elections will be ruled in favor of Biden, and the last resort that Trump have is Supreme Court of the United States, in the hopes that they will nullify the elections in enough states, so no candidate gets 270 electoral votes.


I believe that SCOTUS will NOT DO THAT. I believe that SCOTUS might invalidate some state elections, but not enough for Biden to go under 270.



When we will get to that point, because I believe that SCOTUS is IN THE GAME of removing Trump (hence, giving the U.S. to the globalists), what is left from my prediction is Trump not to concede, and patriots uprising en masse.


The pandemic goes as I expected. Lock-downs are popping up everywhere. It is not going to work. The most, it will plateau the pandemic, or even show a small decrease, for the next 3 weeks, but another spike will happen in Europe in early December.


The events will start rolling at great speed, from now on, from U.S. gripped by unrest and civil war-like armed clashes, to Europe seeing widespread unrest.


I know that Christmas is on 25th of December...but I really don't see it happening.



This thread intent is to have everyone preparing for what is coming. The pandemic is clearly going to get worse. But as I said multiple times before, unexpected events will delay or hasten the mad max-like scenario, and one of those events is clearly what is happening in the U.S.


It is NOT my fault that the events in the U.S. are POLITICAL by nature, and while this thread is about the pandemic, I cannot ignore events of such magnitude, especially because they are taking place EXACTLY because of the pandemic.



So, I am sorry that I am still talking about this, but I don't see why those that visit this thread and prepared for the pandemic (which will last at least one more year) not to prepare for something even worse...and that is a societal collapse, brought by the pandemic AND events outside the pandemic, which, sadly, are taking place in the same time frame.
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DR: I have been following your updates and the information you post regularly, and I have found you to be insightful and rational in your thoughts. I have a lot of respect for your input.

But let me say this about the political angle: Everything I'm seeing indicates that any fraud in the election process was minimal, and President Trump himself even said it was the most secure election in history. Yet, despite that, he still claims it was rigged.

Nevertheless, is it possible there is a grand left-wing conspiracy to steal the election and take Trump down? If I am to remain honest with myself and everyone else, I have to admit it's possible. To do otherwise would make me a blind believer that the system works, and I have seen too much of the system to go down that rabbit hole. The level of governmental corruption I have witnessed in my lifetime from both parties has soured my belief in America as a shining example of democracy to the rest of the world. That America no longer exists. Perhaps it never did.

One question that someone needs to answer to my satisfaction is: If Democrats truly did rig the election in their favor, why do Republicans still have control of the Senate? It seems to me that if you're going to commit a federal felony by rigging the Presidential election, it's only a small step further to rig the Senate races too. Why would they not give themselves both the White House AND Congress??? As it stands now, Democrats control the White House and the House, but Republicans still have the Senate and SCOTUS. And that means Biden will not be able to accomplish a damn thing that Republicans are all concerned about.

However, all that being said, the observation I'm going to share with you is one I have been making since summer. I honestly do not think it mattered who "won" the election - the violence you are predicting was going to happen no matter what. This country has been on a path to destroy itself from the inside out for a long time, but it really started to ramp up with the George W. Bush and Barrack Obama administrations. In my mind, that is when we crossed the point of no return and the country become so polarized that recovery is now impossible. Whether it happens this year, or in 2024 when Trump runs for a second term, or in 2028 when Democrats and Republicans both put extremist candidates in play rather than moderates, it's going to happen.

As with most conflicts, it will start with a single incident. Something will be the spark that ignites all the gasoline we've been pouring on ourselves for the past two decades, and the country will erupt and descend into total chaos. It is possible the virus is that catalyst, but that remains to be seen.

When Americans turn on Americans, this country is lost. America's enemies will have succeeded in destroying us without launching a single missile. China will most likely emerge as the new global economic and military hyperpower.

As for me, I will refuse to pick a side. The Republican and Democrat parties of today have no resemblance to the Republican and Democrat parties I grew up with, and in my mind they are both equally responsible for what is about to happen to America. I will not be party to firing on fellow Americans based on nothing more than their political ideology. That is NOT what this country is. My wife and I have contingency plans in place to weather the storm out of sight and out of mind, after which we will most likely quietly leave the country, refugees of a failed experiment 250 years in the making.

I hope it doesn't come to that. I hope people start to wake up to the fact that no matter which political party they support, they are being played by both sides. But I am not optimistic. The damage is severe and the wounds on both sides run deep.

I wish everyone here - both conservative and liberal (as well as us centrist moderates) - the best of luck in what is coming. I hope you are prepared for what's about to happen. It's going to make the American Civil War look like a minor skirmish.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff
This, but I attend to agree with alot of what this poster types. Even though there are still alot of sensitive people on the other thread. (Maybe you'll remember my comment and your great response)
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I do remember a good conversation with a Canadian AC, but don't remember the user ID. I assume that was you, then?
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I wouldn't call it a good conversation. It's not important but I stated people on the thread were sensitive, when in reality it's not everyone. I should have worded it differently, but you gave me a talking too. Either way it was a nice response. Respect. I'm in the US and I'm not sure why it shows up as Canadian
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Opee, china fully opened minths ago, i jyst saw footage of a sports stadium with 70,000 people in it, no masks either...

Explain to the group how your model is so far outta touch with reality???
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Don't trust China, AC... Believe me.
And don't trust "western" media that talk about China either.

Every single info about China released outside their borders, is previously approved by CCP before going out.

Real info about China can only be found on their TikTok (which has a different name and functions and is not downloadable via GooglePlayStore or AppStore), their WeChat (same as above. Different app with news services too), QQ or via trustworthy informants.

Yes, China opened almost everything months ago.
But they go on full local (I mean... entire cities) lockdown as soon as they discover 4 or 5 cases.

Regarding masks: in most of the country they still wear masks in public places.
Public even wear masks in TV shows (transparent plastik-like masks).

They fear so much Covid that they put on 14-days-quarantine (into Covid hotels) chinese citizens coming back in their country... Even if they tested negative in the country were they took the plane.
Do you wanna laugh?
This is the best part...
Chinese CDC doesn't trust "western" Covid tests (too many false negative results, they say).

Remember that it is a dictatorship. Everything about containing the pandemic is much easier for government.
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I agree: everything, absolutely everything that China publishes is propaganda. No unfiltered information is available from China, and only first hand reports from friends and or the few that are able to be smuggled through some media as the Epoch Times, can be construed as somewhat trustable.
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DR: I have been following your updates and the information you post regularly, and I have found you to be insightful and rational in your thoughts. I have a lot of respect for your input.

But let me say this about the political angle: Everything I'm seeing indicates that any fraud in the election process was minimal, and President Trump himself even said it was the most secure election in history. Yet, despite that, he still claims it was rigged.

Nevertheless, is it possible there is a grand left-wing conspiracy to steal the election and take Trump down? If I am to remain honest with myself and everyone else, I have to admit it's possible. To do otherwise would make me a blind believer that the system works, and I have seen too much of the system to go down that rabbit hole. The level of governmental corruption I have witnessed in my lifetime from both parties has soured my belief in America as a shining example of democracy to the rest of the world. That America no longer exists. Perhaps it never did.

One question that someone needs to answer to my satisfaction is: If Democrats truly did rig the election in their favor, why do Republicans still have control of the Senate? It seems to me that if you're going to commit a federal felony by rigging the Presidential election, it's only a small step further to rig the Senate races too. Why would they not give themselves both the White House AND Congress??? As it stands now, Democrats control the White House and the House, but Republicans still have the Senate and SCOTUS. And that means Biden will not be able to accomplish a damn thing that Republicans are all concerned about.

However, all that being said, the observation I'm going to share with you is one I have been making since summer. I honestly do not think it mattered who "won" the election - the violence you are predicting was going to happen no matter what. This country has been on a path to destroy itself from the inside out for a long time, but it really started to ramp up with the George W. Bush and Barrack Obama administrations. In my mind, that is when we crossed the point of no return and the country become so polarized that recovery is now impossible. Whether it happens this year, or in 2024 when Trump runs for a second term, or in 2028 when Democrats and Republicans both put extremist candidates in play rather than moderates, it's going to happen.

As with most conflicts, it will start with a single incident. Something will be the spark that ignites all the gasoline we've been pouring on ourselves for the past two decades, and the country will erupt and descend into total chaos. It is possible the virus is that catalyst, but that remains to be seen.

When Americans turn on Americans, this country is lost. America's enemies will have succeeded in destroying us without launching a single missile. China will most likely emerge as the new global economic and military hyperpower.

As for me, I will refuse to pick a side. The Republican and Democrat parties of today have no resemblance to the Republican and Democrat parties I grew up with, and in my mind they are both equally responsible for what is about to happen to America. I will not be party to firing on fellow Americans based on nothing more than their political ideology. That is NOT what this country is. My wife and I have contingency plans in place to weather the storm out of sight and out of mind, after which we will most likely quietly leave the country, refugees of a failed experiment 250 years in the making.

I hope it doesn't come to that. I hope people start to wake up to the fact that no matter which political party they support, they are being played by both sides. But I am not optimistic. The damage is severe and the wounds on both sides run deep.

I wish everyone here - both conservative and liberal (as well as us centrist moderates) - the best of luck in what is coming. I hope you are prepared for what's about to happen. It's going to make the American Civil War look like a minor skirmish.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff
This, but I attend to agree with alot of what this poster types. Even though there are still alot of sensitive people on the other thread. (Maybe you'll remember my comment and your great response)
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I do remember a good conversation with a Canadian AC, but don't remember the user ID. I assume that was you, then?
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I wouldn't call it a good conversation. It's not important but I stated people on the thread were sensitive, when in reality it's not everyone. I should have worded it differently, but you gave me a talking too. Either way it was a nice response. Respect. I'm in the US and I'm not sure why it shows up as Canadian
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Yeah, I think I remember that. If our exchange remained civil, then it was a good conversation in my book.

Interesting on the flag issue. Do you live close to the border?
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"Coronavirus, criminal conspiracy", the phrases of Don Livio Fanzaga director of Radio Maria sparked the controversy.


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According to him, the pandemic is a criminal design to bring humanity to its knees and create a new world dominated by fear. A “sanitary and cybernetic dictatorship, creating a new world that is no longer of God the Creator, but that of Satan”. A project that would provide take out all opponents to a project carried out by the world elites, possibly with the complicity of some state.

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THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS and THIS
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DR, thank you for your thread and updates, which have been the only true point of reference for me since day one.

You have been 100% spot on everytime. You have been the only one warning us of the last normal week on earth this spring, when it “could” have sounded like a far fetched statement, and you were so right. I took heed of the warning and prepped.

Those that did not take well your “political” update are missing the big picture. It is all connected. I am sure that there are a lot of people reading your updates without posting, and silently agreeing with you.

Btw, my sister ended up in ICU with Covid pneumonia... now out of ICU, but still at the hospital. As you said, soon we all would personally know of someone who got infected.





GLP