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GALAXYDAISY

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Here in the UK today you would imagine nothing much is wrong with the world.
Late summer, big crowds everywhere, transport full again, mood apparently cheerful.
BUT - cases /deaths rising day on day.
In 2 weeks schools go back.
From that point on, the inevitable road to explosion of cases/lockdown.
[ The lockdown will not include closed borders, it did not before, 40000 Indians poured in without quarantine, seeding Delta everywhere. Therefore, incoming infections will add to community transmission ]
The government here have passed the buck on cvaxx passports, it is not mandated by them like the EU, IT IS down to individual bosses.
The problem here is that this is a VERY highly vaxxed country, also very over populated, high levels of poverty.
The people were told that their lives would go back to normal once they were vaxxed. Currently they are acting out this delusion to the max.
They will NOT in my opinion submit to another lockdown. Too many cannot afford in the most basic terms - food rent jobs - another lockdown. The more affluent, enjoying themselves again, will also flout it to a far greater extent than previously.
Most people here are vaxxed. Most vaxxed people DO NOT KNOW THEY CAN SPREAD INFECTION - because the govt do not choose to publicize this inconvenient fact. The issue of the children being vaxxed is also a ticking time bomb.
Maybe 4-6 weeks till ATTEMPTED lockdown here. 2 weeks max before it is seen to be failing, and stronger measures have to be taken - what measures ? Martial law ? It has never been tried. This is not Australia, small population om a big country, here is opposite. Add in food/supply chain shortages, add in terrorist threats. The mass of the people, the economy, and morale cannot support this.
What happens ? We will find out. It will not be pretty.
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Coronavirus in Italy, peak of infections among health professionals. There is a real surge in cases: + 600% in one month. "Among the nurses there is the largest number of Covid-positive health workers: about 4 thousand," Barbara Mangiacavalli, president of the National Federation of Orders of Nursing Professions, told Adnkronos Health.

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Coronavirus in Italy, peak of infections among health professionals. There is a real surge in cases: + 600% in one month. "Among the nurses there is the largest number of Covid-positive health workers: about 4 thousand," Barbara Mangiacavalli, president of the National Federation of Orders of Nursing Professions, told Adnkronos Health.

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Most of them vaxxed?
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Here in the UK today you would imagine nothing much is wrong with the world.
Late summer, big crowds everywhere, transport full again, mood apparently cheerful.
BUT - cases /deaths rising day on day.
In 2 weeks schools go back.
From that point on, the inevitable road to explosion of cases/lockdown.
[ The lockdown will not include closed borders, it did not before, 40000 Indians poured in without quarantine, seeding Delta everywhere. Therefore, incoming infections will add to community transmission ]
The government here have passed the buck on cvaxx passports, it is not mandated by them like the EU, IT IS down to individual bosses.
The problem here is that this is a VERY highly vaxxed country, also very over populated, high levels of poverty.
The people were told that their lives would go back to normal once they were vaxxed. Currently they are acting out this delusion to the max.
They will NOT in my opinion submit to another lockdown. Too many cannot afford in the most basic terms - food rent jobs - another lockdown. The more affluent, enjoying themselves again, will also flout it to a far greater extent than previously.
Most people here are vaxxed. Most vaxxed people DO NOT KNOW THEY CAN SPREAD INFECTION - because the govt do not choose to publicize this inconvenient fact. The issue of the children being vaxxed is also a ticking time bomb.
Maybe 4-6 weeks till ATTEMPTED lockdown here. 2 weeks max before it is seen to be failing, and stronger measures have to be taken - what measures ? Martial law ? It has never been tried. This is not Australia, small population om a big country, here is opposite. Add in food/supply chain shortages, add in terrorist threats. The mass of the people, the economy, and morale cannot support this.
What happens ? We will find out. It will not be pretty.
 Quoting: GALAXYDAISY



I respect your opinion, and even if I don't, it's still your opinion.


I can try to change it, by underlying a number of aspects that you know them, but are truly afraid to consider them as probable.


I've bolded a part of your comment that contains your fear, but also the reason why they will do another lock-down, be it calling it a lock-down, or force a lock-down based on Martial Law.


Your fear, which is understandable, is that many cannot afford another lock-down, and you believe that the same guys that are KILLING us with a bio-weapon AND kill shots (vaccines), give a fuck on people starving, losing their homes and jobs.


They don't. Not only that they don't care, but the last step before implementing NWO, is the Great Reset. And this Great Reset can only come after an economic and social collapse.


That economic and social collapse will be triggered either by another lock-down, either by Martial Law because people will rebel against the government.


And like it or not, Martial Law is virtually...A LOCK-DOWN, but worse.
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Coronavirus in Italy, peak of infections among health professionals. There is a real surge in cases: + 600% in one month. "Among the nurses there is the largest number of Covid-positive health workers: about 4 thousand," Barbara Mangiacavalli, president of the National Federation of Orders of Nursing Professions, told Adnkronos Health.

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Most of them vaxxed?
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This is not specified, in this article it is written:

"It is science that must decide - Mangiacavalli said - but, in the field, we are witnessing an increase in infections, albeit with minor outcomes, thanks to vaccination that protects against the worst consequences of the infection ". One of the hypotheses is that health professionals, who were vaccinated first, have seen their immunity reduced and are therefore more susceptible to infection. As for the severity of the disease, as specified by Mangiacavalli, the vaccine maintains its effectiveness.

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Coronavirus in Italy, peak of infections among health professionals. There is a real surge in cases: + 600% in one month. "Among the nurses there is the largest number of Covid-positive health workers: about 4 thousand," Barbara Mangiacavalli, president of the National Federation of Orders of Nursing Professions, told Adnkronos Health.

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Most of them vaxxed?
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This is not specified, in this article it is written:

"It is science that must decide - Mangiacavalli said - but, in the field, we are witnessing an increase in infections, albeit with minor outcomes, thanks to vaccination that protects against the worst consequences of the infection ". One of the hypotheses is that health professionals, who were vaccinated first, have seen their immunity reduced and are therefore more susceptible to infection. As for the severity of the disease, as specified by Mangiacavalli, the vaccine maintains its effectiveness.

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These are the first steps into pushing for boosters in the next few months.

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Talking about the next steps of the plan:

Top US general warns ISIS attacks likely to continue in Afghanistan, says military will pursue those responsible

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...

It will be obligatory in a few days. No worries. In my case it will be starting September 1st. In many cases it already is. This is reality. Cope with it
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Good luck
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Thanks DR.

Just a clue that is overlooked constantly: all of the vaccines are capable of inducing magnetism. ALL OF THEM.

So, whatever they have in it, and whatever the purpose of it, all of them have basically the same underlying technology.

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I have something on this, but it's too crazy even for GLP.


Can't find yet the courage to post it.
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Hum...maybe in the future something will be more valuable than gold?
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If EFVV is this...well...Theosophy...Anthroposphy...usual satanist propaganda.


It is now prominently featured on the website of the European Forum for Vaccine Vigilance. Unlike amateur TikTok videos, the EFVV, the star-spangled logo of which resembles the symbols of EU institutions, looks official. The organization, its page states, is an alliance of groups and individuals, including “scientists and medical professionals” from 25 European countries and dedicated to “freedom of choice” regarding vaccinations.

The list of members includes: a homeopath from Germany, a biologist from Madrid and Andrew Wakefield, a British former physician at the centre of the fraudulent 1998 study that claimed there was a link between vaccines and autism. Wakefield was subsequently struck off the U.K.’s medical register and is no longer allowed to practice.


It concludes that vaccinated people “give off an electromagnetic field” and describes the reaction this finding sparked among an allegedly random group of vaccinated individuals. They said that they felt as if they had been “taken as hostages” and described receiving the vaccination as a “mistake,” “madness” and the result of “blackmail.”

The country’s medical community is small, but when I asked Paul Wilmes, a microbiologist at the Luxembourg Centre for Systems Biomedicine about EFVV’s “study”, he was shocked. It was the first time he heard about the organization and its work.

”I have absolutely no idea how anyone could think that a vaccine per se could have any effect on magnetic properties of an individual,” he said.


Juanne Pili, an Italian journalist whose work involves covering vaccine hesitancy and debunking myths around Covid-19 for the online publication Open, believes the recent obsession of antivaxxers with electromagnetism could be inspired by the ideas of the Austrian philosopher and esotericist Rudolf Steiner, who believed that the Spanish flu epidemic of 1918 to 1920 was caused by a disturbance in the electrical equilibrium of the human body.

“There is a whole strand of parapsychology concerning magnetic people, people who are convinced that they can attract objects to themselves,” he said.


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For those in a hurry:
The article presented as a study is actually a misleading and misleading survey that has not been published in any scientific journal.
To have commissioned the work is an association that promotes disinformation No Vax.
Several vaccinated participants were literally terrified as a result of the fake "experiment".


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For those in a hurry:
The article presented as a study is actually a misleading and misleading survey that has not been published in any scientific journal.
To have commissioned the work is an association that promotes disinformation No Vax.
Several vaccinated participants were literally terrified as a result of the fake "experiment".


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Do you really believe that load of propagandistic shit smearing and ill intentioned horseshit? But anyway, if you don’t trust the EFVV because it’s an anti vaccine civil rights activist group, the shills that wrote that hit piece forgot to mention another document hosted in the EFVV forum that was done by a group of practicing doctors in France that wanted to see for themselves if there was something about the magnetism claim and they found a magnetic phenomenon in a high proportion of vaccinated people. These doctors had nothing to do with EFVV, they just wanted to see if there was anything real behind the claim, and they proved it is real.

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And the lack of peer review argument is idiotic, currently all mainstream is acting in block against anything that counters the official narrative, it is absolutely pointless to even attempt to publish something like this.

And don’t come with the argument that this is false, I have been blocked on Twitter twice already for posting news articles that were about ivermectin, the censorship is simply massive.

By the way, and just for setting the record straight, the other document published in the EFVV about magnetism, the one written by French doctors, is real peer review, in their report they state clearly that they doubted the claim of magnetism and they came up with their own protocol to perform the test, which they did with a cleaned up Euro coin, and they also cleaned and dried the skin of patients. Read it, is very interesting.

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In my personal opinion,
One of the biggest problems we face is our absolute inability to learn from the past.

We watch movies from the 1950's and 60's and think how quaint.
We watch talkies from the 1930's and see how overarching dramatic and expressive they were. We fail to realize that the dramatic arts were only just learning how to express themselves on film.

Humans did not act like this. This was idealized humanity brought forth from people whose base beginning was Shakespeare method acting.

Humanity has not changed very much in ten thousand years.

Our base motivations personalities, perversions, whether hard wired or learned are established.
If you took a man from Hamnurabi's time and taught him to speak modern language and drive a car he would fit in society in a very short while.

When you get past the flowery language or official words of people who at least understood the immortality of words, you realize that humans have a basic programming.

That's why I find it so amusing the people who talk of the evolution of thought.
Your motivation for work to feed yourself is no different than it was ten thousand years ago. Food, water, shelter companionship.

That we have elites who want to bring us back to enslavement while they, the "philosopher kings" rule us should be no surprise.

It has worked before. It worked for millennia.

It has nothing to do with carbon footprints, it has nothing to do with personal equality of choice. These are only weapons in the tool kit that the elites are using against us.

The great reset is real.

I am willing to bet that the elites are even considering the destruction of the holy land just to break the backs of the 3 major religions centered there.
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Here in the UK today you would imagine nothing much is wrong with the world.
Late summer, big crowds everywhere, transport full again, mood apparently cheerful.
BUT - cases /deaths rising day on day.
In 2 weeks schools go back.
From that point on, the inevitable road to explosion of cases/lockdown.
[ The lockdown will not include closed borders, it did not before, 40000 Indians poured in without quarantine, seeding Delta everywhere. Therefore, incoming infections will add to community transmission ]
The government here have passed the buck on cvaxx passports, it is not mandated by them like the EU, IT IS down to individual bosses.
The problem here is that this is a VERY highly vaxxed country, also very over populated, high levels of poverty.
The people were told that their lives would go back to normal once they were vaxxed. Currently they are acting out this delusion to the max.
They will NOT in my opinion submit to another lockdown. Too many cannot afford in the most basic terms - food rent jobs - another lockdown. The more affluent, enjoying themselves again, will also flout it to a far greater extent than previously.
Most people here are vaxxed. Most vaxxed people DO NOT KNOW THEY CAN SPREAD INFECTION - because the govt do not choose to publicize this inconvenient fact. The issue of the children being vaxxed is also a ticking time bomb.
Maybe 4-6 weeks till ATTEMPTED lockdown here. 2 weeks max before it is seen to be failing, and stronger measures have to be taken - what measures ? Martial law ? It has never been tried. This is not Australia, small population om a big country, here is opposite. Add in food/supply chain shortages, add in terrorist threats. The mass of the people, the economy, and morale cannot support this.
What happens ? We will find out. It will not be pretty.
 Quoting: GALAXYDAISY



I respect your opinion, and even if I don't, it's still your opinion.


I can try to change it, by underlying a number of aspects that you know them, but are truly afraid to consider them as probable.


I've bolded a part of your comment that contains your fear, but also the reason why they will do another lock-down, be it calling it a lock-down, or force a lock-down based on Martial Law.


Your fear, which is understandable, is that many cannot afford another lock-down, and you believe that the same guys that are KILLING us with a bio-weapon AND kill shots (vaccines), give a fuck on people starving, losing their homes and jobs.


They don't. Not only that they don't care, but the last step before implementing NWO, is the Great Reset. And this Great Reset can only come after an economic and social collapse.


That economic and social collapse will be triggered either by another lock-down, either by Martial Law because people will rebel against the government.


And like it or not, Martial Law is virtually...A LOCK-DOWN, but worse.
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Thank you for your comments - a few points I wish to make -
for the purposes of my observations above, I am merely an observer - many millions inability to stand another lockdown
seems very likely, is all. I do not fear it. Neither am I under any illusions as to the moral bankrupty of the government either, I am however doubtful of their ability to pull off a coup d'etat.
Assuming they ARE complicit in NWO and the Great Reset, based on their current performance, one would be doubtful of their ability to play the part assigned to them as they as useless & incompetent as they are wicked.
I make the point that they have not so far gone for the all out Stasi model now being inflicted on the Australians, or the EU citizens, they believe in laissez faire capitalism doing the job for them.
Emergency powers are already enacted, so they could/can react to civil disobedience by declaring Martial Law, but unless they can find enough money - the police have already, for the first time ever, had a vote of no confidence in the Home Secretary - to bribe them very heavily indeed,[ and they won't] while the army is in the peculiar position of answering ultimately to the Queen as Commander in Chief, not the Government, and is one of the oldest & richest women in the world going to take that gamble,[ because gamble it is, if it didn't work she would lose everything, and she should know, the Romanovs died because her grandfather would not give them asylum in England because HE WAS TERRIFIED THAT IF HE DID, THE BRITISH WOULD RISE UP IN A REVOLUTION JUST AS THE RUSSIANS HAD !!!! ] so its a moot point as to whether they would be willing or able to facing MILLIONS of mutinous people, [ still millions, even if the majority say yes sir, no sir ] then I say Good Luck with that.
Race memory goes deep here. If it comes to it. we will fight.
Its not a done deal, not by any means.
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And the lack of peer review argument is idiotic, currently all mainstream is acting in block against anything that counters the official narrative, it is absolutely pointless to even attempt to publish something like this.

And don’t come with the argument that this is false, I have been blocked on Twitter twice already for posting news articles that were about ivermectin, the censorship is simply massive.

By the way, and just for setting the record straight, the other document published in the EFVV about magnetism, the one written by French doctors, is real peer review, in their report they state clearly that they doubted the claim of magnetism and they came up with their own protocol to perform the test, which they did with a cleaned up Euro coin, and they also cleaned and dried the skin of patients. Read it, is very interesting.

[link to www.efvv.eu (secure)]
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


The document is not what you state. It is this very same document that is not based on any thing vaguely resembling science that makes the claims made by efvv total crap.
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And the lack of peer review argument is idiotic, currently all mainstream is acting in block against anything that counters the official narrative, it is absolutely pointless to even attempt to publish something like this.

And don’t come with the argument that this is false, I have been blocked on Twitter twice already for posting news articles that were about ivermectin, the censorship is simply massive.

By the way, and just for setting the record straight, the other document published in the EFVV about magnetism, the one written by French doctors, is real peer review, in their report they state clearly that they doubted the claim of magnetism and they came up with their own protocol to perform the test, which they did with a cleaned up Euro coin, and they also cleaned and dried the skin of patients. Read it, is very interesting.

[link to www.efvv.eu (secure)]
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


The document is not what you state. It is this very same document that is not based on any thing vaguely resembling science that makes the claims made by efvv total crap.
 Quoting: Italiano Deplorevole


It is very clear you have not even read this report that comes from a doctor and a nurse from Charente in France and mentions the survey made in Luxembourg as the source of the skepticism that led them to verify by themselves. This is exactly what no debunker has ever done: go check for themselves.
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If EFVV is this...well...Theosophy...Anthroposphy...usual satanist propaganda.


It is now prominently featured on the website of the European Forum for Vaccine Vigilance. Unlike amateur TikTok videos, the EFVV, the star-spangled logo of which resembles the symbols of EU institutions, looks official. The organization, its page states, is an alliance of groups and individuals, including “scientists and medical professionals” from 25 European countries and dedicated to “freedom of choice” regarding vaccinations.

The list of members includes: a homeopath from Germany, a biologist from Madrid and Andrew Wakefield, a British former physician at the centre of the fraudulent 1998 study that claimed there was a link between vaccines and autism. Wakefield was subsequently struck off the U.K.’s medical register and is no longer allowed to practice.


It concludes that vaccinated people “give off an electromagnetic field” and describes the reaction this finding sparked among an allegedly random group of vaccinated individuals. They said that they felt as if they had been “taken as hostages” and described receiving the vaccination as a “mistake,” “madness” and the result of “blackmail.”

The country’s medical community is small, but when I asked Paul Wilmes, a microbiologist at the Luxembourg Centre for Systems Biomedicine about EFVV’s “study”, he was shocked. It was the first time he heard about the organization and its work.

”I have absolutely no idea how anyone could think that a vaccine per se could have any effect on magnetic properties of an individual,” he said.


Juanne Pili, an Italian journalist whose work involves covering vaccine hesitancy and debunking myths around Covid-19 for the online publication Open, believes the recent obsession of antivaxxers with electromagnetism could be inspired by the ideas of the Austrian philosopher and esotericist Rudolf Steiner, who believed that the Spanish flu epidemic of 1918 to 1920 was caused by a disturbance in the electrical equilibrium of the human body.

“There is a whole strand of parapsychology concerning magnetic people, people who are convinced that they can attract objects to themselves,” he said.


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This electromagnetism makes me think of the work of Edgar Cayce.
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And the lack of peer review argument is idiotic, currently all mainstream is acting in block against anything that counters the official narrative, it is absolutely pointless to even attempt to publish something like this.

And don’t come with the argument that this is false, I have been blocked on Twitter twice already for posting news articles that were about ivermectin, the censorship is simply massive.

By the way, and just for setting the record straight, the other document published in the EFVV about magnetism, the one written by French doctors, is real peer review, in their report they state clearly that they doubted the claim of magnetism and they came up with their own protocol to perform the test, which they did with a cleaned up Euro coin, and they also cleaned and dried the skin of patients. Read it, is very interesting.

[link to www.efvv.eu (secure)]
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


The document is not what you state. It is this very same document that is not based on any thing vaguely resembling science that makes the claims made by efvv total crap.
 Quoting: Italiano Deplorevole


It is very clear you have not even read this report that comes from a doctor and a nurse from Charente in France and mentions the survey made in Luxembourg as the source of the skepticism that led them to verify by themselves. This is exactly what no debunker has ever done: go check for themselves.
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OH I did read it. It is not a study made on scientific terms. It's a simple collection of interviews made in the streets. Do you call that a study?
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If EFVV is this...well...Theosophy...Anthroposphy...usual satanist propaganda.


It is now prominently featured on the website of the European Forum for Vaccine Vigilance. Unlike amateur TikTok videos, the EFVV, the star-spangled logo of which resembles the symbols of EU institutions, looks official. The organization, its page states, is an alliance of groups and individuals, including “scientists and medical professionals” from 25 European countries and dedicated to “freedom of choice” regarding vaccinations.

The list of members includes: a homeopath from Germany, a biologist from Madrid and Andrew Wakefield, a British former physician at the centre of the fraudulent 1998 study that claimed there was a link between vaccines and autism. Wakefield was subsequently struck off the U.K.’s medical register and is no longer allowed to practice.


It concludes that vaccinated people “give off an electromagnetic field” and describes the reaction this finding sparked among an allegedly random group of vaccinated individuals. They said that they felt as if they had been “taken as hostages” and described receiving the vaccination as a “mistake,” “madness” and the result of “blackmail.”

The country’s medical community is small, but when I asked Paul Wilmes, a microbiologist at the Luxembourg Centre for Systems Biomedicine about EFVV’s “study”, he was shocked. It was the first time he heard about the organization and its work.

”I have absolutely no idea how anyone could think that a vaccine per se could have any effect on magnetic properties of an individual,” he said.


Juanne Pili, an Italian journalist whose work involves covering vaccine hesitancy and debunking myths around Covid-19 for the online publication Open, believes the recent obsession of antivaxxers with electromagnetism could be inspired by the ideas of the Austrian philosopher and esotericist Rudolf Steiner, who believed that the Spanish flu epidemic of 1918 to 1920 was caused by a disturbance in the electrical equilibrium of the human body.

“There is a whole strand of parapsychology concerning magnetic people, people who are convinced that they can attract objects to themselves,” he said.


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This electromagnetism makes me think of the work of Edgar Cayce.
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This is all really interesting

Imagine bringing out a vaccine that has these properties and its so woo-woo that the population de-bunk it and herd toward it like the sheep they are

Obviously anyone finding out the truth , and that truth being so far fetched would be laughed at

What a brilliant idea
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VERY IMPORTANT UPDATE :

It’s the AMERICAN BIOWARFARE VIRUS
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Thing is most here don't even try to think the counter info they are getting is could be a lie. They all try to find something in non scientific articles and people that simply use all available media to get their name out without having any title whatsoever. Most are giving credit to unproven theories just to standout somehow. We have the web. We have access to info that was never available before in human history, but we still go after the pied piper.
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And the lack of peer review argument is idiotic, currently all mainstream is acting in block against anything that counters the official narrative, it is absolutely pointless to even attempt to publish something like this.

And don’t come with the argument that this is false, I have been blocked on Twitter twice already for posting news articles that were about ivermectin, the censorship is simply massive.

By the way, and just for setting the record straight, the other document published in the EFVV about magnetism, the one written by French doctors, is real peer review, in their report they state clearly that they doubted the claim of magnetism and they came up with their own protocol to perform the test, which they did with a cleaned up Euro coin, and they also cleaned and dried the skin of patients. Read it, is very interesting.

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The document is not what you state. It is this very same document that is not based on any thing vaguely resembling science that makes the claims made by efvv total crap.
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It is very clear you have not even read this report that comes from a doctor and a nurse from Charente in France and mentions the survey made in Luxembourg as the source of the skepticism that led them to verify by themselves. This is exactly what no debunker has ever done: go check for themselves.
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OH I did read it. It is not a study made on scientific terms. It's a simple collection of interviews made in the streets. Do you call that a study?
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Again, you are talking about the Luxembourg study, not the French study which was made by a doctor and a nurse in their practice and they even re tested some individuals that at the moment of the experiment had their skin too moist. So clearly you haven’t even clicked in the link. The EFVV has this file there but it is only there because the blog where it was posted initially was taken down by the host.
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You are simply ignoring evidence you think it’s too far fetched. Don’t accuse others of having the capacity to go beyond their pre conceived limits. It took me two months to even begin to accept the possibility that there was something weird going on.
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Thing is most here don't even try to think the counter info they are getting is could be a lie. They all try to find something in non scientific articles and people that simply use all available media to get their name out without having any title whatsoever. Most are giving credit to unproven theories just to standout somehow. We have the web. We have access to info that was never available before in human history, but we still go after the pied piper.
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You are simply ignoring evidence you think it’s too far fetched. Don’t accuse others of having the capacity to go beyond their pre conceived limits. It took me two months to even begin to accept the possibility that there was something weird going on.
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The ignoring of information that doesn't seem real is why we are in the pickle today. On it's face having 3 friends die in a matter of weeks would seem just bad luck. But for me all 3 had just got their first jab. Hmm.
On it's face having one friend in the intensive care unit from clots and two family members hospitalized with necrotic bowel is weird, but all 3 happened a week after their second jab. Hmm.
Everyone I know who got the jab seems to be sicker more often now and forgive me, but dumber.
Hmmm.
I know covid is a real disease, it socks to have it. But I only know 1 person who died from it. He was 88 and dying of double lung cancer anyways. But hey he tested positive eventually so he was a statistic.
Everyone else is a friend of a friend who wife's kid second cousin is on a ventilator. Which they all learned of through fecesbook.
Since the government and telecommunications companies are already editing text messages as they are being sent to prevent the spread of "misinformation " who us to say that our betters in the tech industry ate not doing the same and just for fun posting "fact checked" info from our friends and relatives on their behalf?

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Those with better math skills than me should have a look at this. (mathemathical models for different scenaries in Norway)

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Thing is most here don't even try to think the counter info they are getting is could be a lie. They all try to find something in non scientific articles and people that simply use all available media to get their name out without having any title whatsoever. Most are giving credit to unproven theories just to standout somehow. We have the web. We have access to info that was never available before in human history, but we still go after the pied piper.
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You are simply ignoring evidence you think it’s too far fetched. Don’t accuse others of having the capacity to go beyond their pre conceived limits. It took me two months to even begin to accept the possibility that there was something weird going on.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


The ignoring of information that doesn't seem real is why we are in the pickle today. On it's face having 3 friends die in a matter of weeks would seem just bad luck. But for me all 3 had just got their first jab. Hmm.
On it's face having one friend in the intensive care unit from clots and two family members hospitalized with necrotic bowel is weird, but all 3 happened a week after their second jab. Hmm.
Everyone I know who got the jab seems to be sicker more often now and forgive me, but dumber.
Hmmm.
I know covid is a real disease, it socks to have it. But I only know 1 person who died from it. He was 88 and dying of double lung cancer anyways. But hey he tested positive eventually so he was a statistic.
Everyone else is a friend of a friend who wife's kid second cousin is on a ventilator. Which they all learned of through fecesbook.
Since the government and telecommunications companies are already editing text messages as they are being sent to prevent the spread of "misinformation " who us to say that our betters in the tech industry ate not doing the same and just for fun posting "fact checked" info from our friends and relatives on their behalf?
 Quoting: Saskafrass


Thing is most here don't even try to think the counter info they are getting is could be a lie. They all try to find something in non scientific articles and people that simply use all available media to get their name out without having any title whatsoever. Most are giving credit to unproven theories just to standout somehow. We have the web. We have access to info that was never available before in human history, but we still go after the pied piper.
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You are simply ignoring evidence you think it’s too far fetched. Don’t accuse others of having the capacity to go beyond their pre conceived limits. It took me two months to even begin to accept the possibility that there was something weird going on.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


The ignoring of information that doesn't seem real is why we are in the pickle today. On it's face having 3 friends die in a matter of weeks would seem just bad luck. But for me all 3 had just got their first jab. Hmm.
On it's face having one friend in the intensive care unit from clots and two family members hospitalized with necrotic bowel is weird, but all 3 happened a week after their second jab. Hmm.
Everyone I know who got the jab seems to be sicker more often now and forgive me, but dumber.
Hmmm.
I know covid is a real disease, it socks to have it. But I only know 1 person who died from it. He was 88 and dying of double lung cancer anyways. But hey he tested positive eventually so he was a statistic.
Everyone else is a friend of a friend who wife's kid second cousin is on a ventilator. Which they all learned of through fecesbook.
Since the government and telecommunications companies are already editing text messages as they are being sent to prevent the spread of "misinformation " who us to say that our betters in the tech industry ate not doing the same and just for fun posting "fact checked" info from our friends and relatives on their behalf?
 Quoting: Saskafrass


I personally lost THREE relatives to COVID. The problem is real and you are just being brainwashed by cointelpro. Wake UP!

I can add that I had the vaccine in Jluy. So did my wife and my mother in law. No consequence whatsover. No magnetic effect. Nothing at all.

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