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WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

 
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OP south korea exploded to 500 cases last night

China is reporting people who recovered are having another infection

Iran is ballooning at the same pace as south korea. They both had just over 100 cases mid day yesterday. I dont see any updates about iran yet though
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500 cases in South Korea? What's the source? My sources tell 208 cases.
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Crap i overlooked it was china

Sk only has 208
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I find it hard to believe that India has had only 3 cases for almost 2 weeks and it hasn't spread.

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Like OP says, places like India, Africa, and other places aren't even testing.
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The U.S. and Europe are in the same boat : they aren't testing people, but for other reasons, not lack of testing kits, like India and Africa.

The U.S. and Europe are buying time, essential time that is needed to prepare for the outbreaks, which are less than 2 weeks away.


The U.S. and European governments are avoiding testing, using the flu season and the 85%-ish of the CV19 cases to be mild or asymptomatic, to hide the real numbers, to postpone panic...in order to buy time.


But this is not going to fly for much longer.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Part of this may be the concern that if the herd spooks, more may die from the panic, than the virus.

These idiots stomp each other to death on black friday for a cheap TV, imagine how they will react when they have a real problem bearing down on them. A problem that a check from the govt won't help them with.
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NUMBER OF WHITE AMERICAN CORBOLA VICTIMES TO DATE := 0.00
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Shut up. Go away.

This virus is killing people and we don't want to hear your crap.
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Hello, anyone? buehler??

Can anyone link to a SINGLE WHITE DEATH?

American or otherwise..

PRO TIP: NO YOU CANT BECAUSE IT HASNT HAPPENED

CORBOLA AIDS IS A NOTHING BURGER
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73067057


The burden of proof is on the person making the assertion, not on the person questioning it. I don't know of anyone that has stated that a white person (american or otherwise) has died of this virus.

On the other hand, there are numerous posters stating that there are no white fatalities. Consequently, the onus is upon those posters to prove their assertion, not upon the rest of us to disprove it.

Doing so will be difficult as the race/ethnicitity/nationality of all reported deaths has not yet been released. There may not be any white fatalities, but, right now, we cannot possibly know anything like that for certain.
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Check out zerohedge article. It looks like your spot on your model.

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Diamond Princess ship was a real eye opener, but it is not a sample that can be extrapolated to a model.

However, it can be applied to cluster outbreaks, such as the church cluster in Daegu, South Korea.

I expect 200+ cases in Daegu church alone to be confirmed by the end of the week (February 23rd), with dozens more that are indirectly related to the church.


South Korea should have around 300 confirmed cases by week's end.


If this is the case, expect all future clusters to follow a 20-25% infection rate.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Corona : "Crown" on the Diamond Princess.
First city in France contaminated? : Contamine-Monjoie (my Joyce).
The Illuminati play card about depopulation with the picture of Wuhan buildings.
And there are already many other "coincidences"...

Is that a joke on us? wtf
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UPDATE :


Italy report 2 new cases, 1 in critical condition, a 39 year old Italian.


60 people who had contact with the 39 year old Italian are placed under quarantine, and will be tested.


According to the infection rate on Diamond Princess and South Korean cult church, Italy should confirm roughly 20% of those 60 in quarantine, which is 12 cases. Could be less, like 9 or 10, but it will still be close to the 20% cluster infection rate.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector



2 more cases confirmed in Milan.

Authorities are asking citizens from 2 towns close to Milan to stay indoors to prevent the spread of the virus.


7 cases in Genoa undertaking deep investigations. Most likely they tested positive in preliminary tests.

A press release will take place in Genoa at 17:30 local time (16:30 GMT).

 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Update: 6 cases confirmed now
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9 confirmed now.


By the end of the week will be 50+ in Italy. It will follow the cluster growth in South Korea.


Most likely 6-8 more cases will be announced today, or 12, if the Genoa cluster is confirmed.
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10 more cases in Italy...

19 in total atm. A little bit more then what I expected. Likely more cases will be announced today.

It might jump over 70 cases by week's end in Italy...


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Hello, anyone? buehler??

Can anyone link to a SINGLE WHITE DEATH?

American or otherwise..

PRO TIP: NO YOU CANT BECAUSE IT HASNT HAPPENED

CORBOLA AIDS IS A NOTHING BURGER
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73067057


The burden of proof is on the person making the assertion, not on the person questioning it. I don't know of anyone that has stated that a white person (american or otherwise) has died of this virus.

On the other hand, there are numerous posters stating that there are no white fatalities. Consequently, the onus is upon those posters to prove their assertion, not upon the rest of us to disprove it.

Doing so will be difficult as the race/ethnicitity/nationality of all reported deaths has not yet been released. There may not be any white fatalities, but, right now, we cannot possibly know anything like that for certain.
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Except that the Iranians are technically white. They are Aryan and Caucasians...so, white, as far as DNA genome goes.

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Hi, Colleen here in Iowa, so in the news, they've been reporting how bad the flu is here for the schools, so I did a little digging for the breakdown, now surprise, 92 cases of Corona just this week in Iowa, but they claim it's not the same as COVID19, what the hell. here is the report:

[link to idph.iowa.gov (secure)]
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Check out zerohedge article. It looks like your spot on your model.

[link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]
 Quoting: gebahie



Diamond Princess ship was a real eye opener, but it is not a sample that can be extrapolated to a model.

However, it can be applied to cluster outbreaks, such as the church cluster in Daegu, South Korea.

I expect 200+ cases in Daegu church alone to be confirmed by the end of the week (February 23rd), with dozens more that are indirectly related to the church.


South Korea should have around 300 confirmed cases by week's end.


If this is the case, expect all future clusters to follow a 20-25% infection rate.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector



I don't think it would be totally inaccurate to say that the Diamond Princess ship is a microcosm of what is going down on dry land.
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Diamond Princess is COVID-19 mill:


Diamond Princess has completely inadequate infection control, and there is no professional ID person in charge. Passengeres, crews, health care professionals working inside are at risk of infection, and the practice is even worse than what I saw in Africa. Immediate action is needed to save people inside.

Summary:
Hello my name is professor Kentaro Iwata I am a specialist of infectious diseases at Kobe University Hospital, Kobe Japan.

Today I entered into the cruise ship Diamond Princess which is bombarded by a-lot of COVID 19 infection right now and I was removed from the ship on the same day and I'm going to talk to you why this happened.

I was very concerned of the number of the people who got infected with COVID 19 disease infections. Then I was wondering why this is happening, I wanted to enter into the cruise ship and wanted to be useful in helping to containing infection there I spoke with several people and finally the one officer at working for Ministry of Health and Labor called me yesterday saying that well you can come and enter into a cruise ship and do the infection control work and I said fine, then I prepared my stuff and I did all the paperwork's and arrangement and they got in onto the Shinkansen? from Kobe to Yokohama all the way to go to Yokohama

I got another call from the same officer say that somebody didn't like me so do you can't get into the cruise ship. He was not able to say who and he was not able to say why but certainly some power over him affected his decision and I was blocked from entering into the ship then after several discussions he found another way that if you could come as a DMAT team member you can come in at into the cruise ship. DMAT is the disaster management medical team in Japan and usually deals with disaster not infectious diseases but because of the lack of the people who could help people inside a cruise ship to get out of the ship or the managing of people and the swan song DMAT was requested to enter in the cruise ship because my specialty is not a disaster management

So I was not very happy about that, but because we have no other way I said fine I'll do that. Additionally I got another call that some people didn't like me getting into the cruise ship present even as a DMAT member. Another discussion happened then the I waited about our one hour in shin-yokohama sessions and finally the officer find a way that if you work for DMAT not as an infection prevention specialist, but as the ordinary routine Diamond officer working under wounded team at doctor doing a routine job then you could come into the cruise ship.

I was not very happy with that decision but because there's no other way so I said finding out get into the ship I entered the ship then I found the chief officer of the DMAT and spoke with him I said well I was assigned to the DMAT members or the out whatever you want to say they hes well you don't have to work team DMAT work because that's not your specialty and you are an infection prevention specialist so why don't you do the infection control then I said fine

I spoke with the superior of him who is in charge of the DMAT operations and he also said that you are infection control person so you should do infection control I said fine but he said well you shouldn't be here as a DMAT member you should come as the along to infection control specialist he was not very happy about while I was inside a DMAT but because that was not my decision there was no other way so he I said well I have to do it

I looked into the several places inside the ship and the turned out that the cruise ship was completely inadequate in terms of the infection control there was no distinction between the Green Zone which is the free of infection and the Red Zone which is potentially contaminated by virus.

So the people could come and go wearing a PPE of PPE crews were just walking around and the officers of ministry the health and the labor was walking around, DMAT people are walking around, psychiatrists are walking around, and people were eating in one place, people were wearing PPE and off PPE and eating lunch with their gloves on and just dealing with the smart phone with full PPE so it was completely chaotic and some crews had a fever they went to the medical center while wearing and N95 masks but he didn't have any protection between his room and a medical room and the medical officer was not protecting herself and that she was very happy saying that well she was already infected I'm sure about that, so the she was completely giving up protecting herself anyways

I dealt with a lots of infections more than twenty years and I was in Africa dealing with the Ebola outbreak, I was in another country is dealing with the cholera outbreak I was in China in 2003 to deal with the SARS, and I saw many febrile patient there. I never had fear of getting infection myself, for Ebola, SARS, cholera because I know how to protect myself and how to protect others and how the infection control should be.

So I could do the adequate infection control protect myself and protect others. but inside Princess Diamond I was so scared, I was so scared of getting COVID-19 because there was no way to tell where the virus is. No green zone no red zone everywhere could have Virus and everybody was not careful about it. There was no single professional infection control person inside the ship and that there was nobody in charge of infection prevention as a professional.

The bureaucrats were in charge of everything and I spoke with the head officer of the Ministry of Health on labor and he was very unhappy with my suggestion of protecting DMAT people and other staffs so that no other secondary transmission to occur then after several hours of talking to people and finding problems I found a lot of issues there for example informed consent of getting a PCR from the people in the ship was on a paper and that paper was going back and forth back and forth with the room of the infection from the paper by touching there.

So I suggested that maybe it's better to abandon the paper type informed consent but resolutely getting the informed consent probably would be more protective so on so on so yeah I, I think I was reasonable, and I never yell at anybody, and I never criticize anybody personally, but I was trying to be constructive but we try to seek the constructive but immediate improvement to protect everybody inside the ship

Then about five o'clock the person from the quarantine office came in and approached said well you have to be out because you will not be allowed to inside of ship because I was inside ship as the temporary officer of the quarantine that he apparently my my rank was removed by somebody and then nobody said who that the I was out. And the officer who offered me the job of infection control said he was sorry then I asked him so what do you want to do then do you want to infect everybody in the ship? it will be your thousands of people who could potentially get COVID-19.

I don' t criticize DMAT people they were not infection control specialists, Society of infection prevention entered the, a lot of specialists came in but they spend only a few days and to left. And they said they were fearful of getting infections themselves. I share the same fear because I'm in the same room now and I separated from my family I'm very scared of getting infection myself and I'm very scared of infecting my family too.

I'll be out of my medical services at Culver University Hospital for maybe next two weeks to avoid further infections to occur that is very likely to occur if you keep zero infection control inside the ship that brings us like this.

You might know that there is no CDC in Japan but I thought there must be some specialists called on and was in charge of infection control in ship it's not expecting nobody was professional infection control specialist and the only the bureaucrats were doing the jobs completely layman's work in the violating all the infection control principles and the risking people inside further infections so I'm not very surprised to see many new positive PCR's to be broadcasted every day hundreds of people got infected and the lot of people from outside Japan decided to take the people away from the ship and bring them to their home countries by airplane and offered them another 14 days of quarantine. I hope this will be the opportunity to raise a question what is happening inside ship.

I wish all the international bodies to request Japan to change. I wish everybody to call for protection of people inside the Diamond Princess. Otherwise there will be far more infections for passengers for crews for Diamond members for psychiatrist for officer of the Ministry of Health and labor DMAT member consists of nurses and doctors and that they will go back to the hospital they work routinely and it's a much infected their patients further to spread and the disease.

I can't bear with it, I can't bear with it, I think we have to change we have to do something about these crews and we have to help people inside the ship their safety and their life.

Again I am professor Kentaro Iwata of infection this infectious disease specialist thank you for listening.
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nobody wants to say: there is no hope for the people on the Diamond Princess.
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The thing is the CDC got the test kits for COVID-19 WRONG!

They cannot get correct count of infected until these newer correct kits get global.

Then we will see the scary truer numbers tally.

I am lucky I am retired with a small income but the poor souls that work paycheck to paycheck without any backup preps are gonna be hit HARD!

This group will become desperate 1st. Especially the thiggie druggies who thinks the World already owes the reparations.

So in their lack of morality thy will think what the whites have should be theirs and many killings will occur as they try to steal and then dindoo muffims when and if caught.

Trouble is the cops will be so busy they won't be able to monitor the thousands of black youth gangs going full purge. 12 year old black teens are nearly 6 feet tall...

So from 12 to 50 these high testosterone dangerous jungle bunnies are gonna put the hurt on us if we are not ready. They will never come alone but 2, 3 or 4 to get you!

Thanks to political correctness the left demoncrats have embolden them like never before & ALL if any fear they had that kept them from harming others... is GONE.

Are you aware what they are doing to the white farmers in Africa? Wow.

The welfare breeding grounds popping out whose yo dd bb's are at an all time high as they are taking over all the fast food jobs everywhere.

Hope the white brothers get prepared for what they will bring. They will do anything to further a drug habit especially food once scarce.


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Your racism stinks.
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Evidently you have never been at the end of a black racist knock out punch game nor know the multitude of evils the blacks do against the white taxpaying majority group that pays for their welfare.

You must not remember the subway train where they beat a senior citizen for fun or the girl two black teens stabbed to death recently. Statistically if you research it to know or hide the truth you can research online the percentage of black crimes against white and the percent of blacks clogging up our prison system, and NOT just for little misdemeanors but murders, rape, theft type of crimes.

They move into a white neighborhood and it declines becoming trash, their youth 9 yr olds to 30 yr old thug and drug causing the neighbors to become unsafe. When your in a store if you look at them a little off they incite rage and think the white person is a white devil.

I remember standing in line at a dollar store and a 7 year old black kid behind me kicked my leg. His mother seen it and look at me like "What you gonna do honkey"? She had 2 other kids standing next to her and a baby in her arms.

Breeding without being able to feed kids on their own but force all others to pay for their sexual actions. No morals no responsibility, no love of the Lord God or His commands.

The Lord says kids being born outside of marriage are what? Look it up. But theses breeders do it generation after generation especially in Africa where the poor babies starve to death but the women don't care and choose to have sex anyway & expect the Red Cross & UNICEF to feed their ever evolving populations.

Yeah the prior poster could of sugar coated their points better to make it more palatable but the facts remain in everything said. Time to change black America & Africa! No longer should we enable these behaviors out of political correctness or fear of the overused word racist.

Which is the same word the black youth play on the young white girls if they don't initially have sex with them in intimidation.

Not only do we have to deal with the above now we must face Islamic nutjobs trying to enforce Sharia Law in our own lands and illegal immigrants stealing our medical and jobs.

Thanks to our leaders!

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Evidently, you don't know the history of white transgressions against black people. Lets just say people are nasty all the time to other people.
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Check out zerohedge article. It looks like your spot on your model.

[link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]
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Diamond Princess ship was a real eye opener, but it is not a sample that can be extrapolated to a model.

However, it can be applied to cluster outbreaks, such as the church cluster in Daegu, South Korea.

I expect 200+ cases in Daegu church alone to be confirmed by the end of the week (February 23rd), with dozens more that are indirectly related to the church.


South Korea should have around 300 confirmed cases by week's end.


If this is the case, expect all future clusters to follow a 20-25% infection rate.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Great point. Glad you have that balanced observation. I am going for another food run this weekend. Already set, but hearing the CDC mentioning closing business and schools.... now I know I need more.
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Hi, Colleen here in Iowa, so in the news, they've been reporting how bad the flu is here for the schools, so I did a little digging for the breakdown, now surprise, 92 cases of Corona just this week in Iowa, but they claim it's not the same as COVID19, what the hell. here is the report:

[link to idph.iowa.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: 71cuda 78330135


There are four main subgroups of coronaviruses that people often get. One laid me out pretty good last year. And something nasty is going around and put my daughter in hospital [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]

But I do wonder if some of these or some of the flu cases aren't the new Covid19 and people just aren't being tested. The illnesses just seem way worse than usual.
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Hi, Colleen here in Iowa, so in the news, they've been reporting how bad the flu is here for the schools, so I did a little digging for the breakdown, now surprise, 92 cases of Corona just this week in Iowa, but they claim it's not the same as COVID19, what the hell. here is the report:

[link to idph.iowa.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: 71cuda 78330135


The U.S. will hide the numbers for 2 more weeks, unless a cluster explodes, like Daegu in SK and Milan in Italy.


The U.S. MUST postpone the panic as much as possible...sadly, a lot of people will die of hunger, being caught overnight with Army NG all over the U.S. in locked-down cities.

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Hi, Colleen here in Iowa, so in the news, they've been reporting how bad the flu is here for the schools, so I did a little digging for the breakdown, now surprise, 92 cases of Corona just this week in Iowa, but they claim it's not the same as COVID19, what the hell. here is the report:

[link to idph.iowa.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: 71cuda 78330135


The U.S. will hide the numbers for 2 more weeks, unless a cluster explodes, like Daegu in SK and Milan in Italy.


The U.S. MUST postpone the panic as much as possible...sadly, a lot of people will die of hunger, being caught overnight with Army NG all over the U.S. in locked-down cities.
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ty, so much, curious, if it was planned, then who will survive?
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South Korea and Italy cases are very alarming.
South Korea was game on very late, way after other China neighbors like Vietnam or Hong Kong and Italy seems to spike too. It means we are witnessing the most widespread misinformation campaign ever, a coordinating effort of world health officials, govs, media etc.
You don't have to be a full blown lunatic or conspiracy fan to realize the numbers in some countries are way out of proportion. Just common sense.

The 1000 out of China cases mark is very close, before March 10.
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Hi, Colleen here in Iowa, so in the news, they've been reporting how bad the flu is here for the schools, so I did a little digging for the breakdown, now surprise, 92 cases of Corona just this week in Iowa, but they claim it's not the same as COVID19, what the hell. here is the report:

[link to idph.iowa.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: 71cuda 78330135


The U.S. will hide the numbers for 2 more weeks, unless a cluster explodes, like Daegu in SK and Milan in Italy.


The U.S. MUST postpone the panic as much as possible...sadly, a lot of people will die of hunger, being caught overnight with Army NG all over the U.S. in locked-down cities.
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ty, so much, curious, if it was planned, then who will survive?
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Wasn't planned. It was an accidental release. At least this is my opinion. I tend towards a man-made virus, but not intentionally used. We would had nukes flying by now if this was intentional.

I don't know who will survive...because I don't know what SHTF scenario will take place.

I see one of the 2 scenarios :

1.Deep recession, partial economic collapse, martial law and lock-downs, with the pandemic under control, very small loss of human lives.

2.Full social and economic collapse, with the pandemic ravaging the humanity and highly likely war/wars or WW3. Massive loss of human lives.


At this point, scenario 2 is gaining serious ground with each day that passes.

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Hello, anyone? buehler??

Can anyone link to a SINGLE WHITE DEATH?

American or otherwise..

PRO TIP: NO YOU CANT BECAUSE IT HASNT HAPPENED

CORBOLA AIDS IS A NOTHING BURGER
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73067057


The burden of proof is on the person making the assertion, not on the person questioning it. I don't know of anyone that has stated that a white person (american or otherwise) has died of this virus.

On the other hand, there are numerous posters stating that there are no white fatalities. Consequently, the onus is upon those posters to prove their assertion, not upon the rest of us to disprove it.

Doing so will be difficult as the race/ethnicitity/nationality of all reported deaths has not yet been released. There may not be any white fatalities, but, right now, we cannot possibly know anything like that for certain.
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Except that the Iranians are technically white. They are Aryan and Caucasians...so, white, as far as DNA genome goes.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


I understand, but (and I may have missed this) I don't recall that the dead Iranians were identified beyond "Iranian nationals". I don't hold this opinion, but they could have been of immigrant stock.

Either way, my point stands: the onus is on the posters claiming "no white deaths" to prove their assertion.

On another note, thanks for this thread. It was your model that caused me to start tracking this topic.
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Hello, anyone? buehler??

Can anyone link to a SINGLE WHITE DEATH?

American or otherwise..

PRO TIP: NO YOU CANT BECAUSE IT HASNT HAPPENED

CORBOLA AIDS IS A NOTHING BURGER
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73067057


The burden of proof is on the person making the assertion, not on the person questioning it. I don't know of anyone that has stated that a white person (american or otherwise) has died of this virus.

On the other hand, there are numerous posters stating that there are no white fatalities. Consequently, the onus is upon those posters to prove their assertion, not upon the rest of us to disprove it.

Doing so will be difficult as the race/ethnicitity/nationality of all reported deaths has not yet been released. There may not be any white fatalities, but, right now, we cannot possibly know anything like that for certain.
 Quoting: Knightshade


Except that the Iranians are technically white. They are Aryan and Caucasians...so, white, as far as DNA genome goes.
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I understand, but (and I may have missed this) I don't recall that the dead Iranians were identified beyond "Iranian nationals". I don't hold this opinion, but they could have been of immigrant stock.

Either way, my point stands: the onus is on the posters claiming "no white deaths" to prove their assertion.

On another note, thanks for this thread. It was your model that caused me to start tracking this topic.
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I don't see the people who assume that this virus kills a certain genome group as smart people. Or at least informed people.

Yes, the ones claiming this crap have the burden of proof.

Even if we assume that a virus targeting a certain genome group can be made, the problem is that viruses mutate. And they do it many times over a short period of time.

This is a 100% FACT.

And the moment a virus mutates, his original design is lost : that virus will affect and kill anyone, regardless of the genome type.

Not to mention that in the last 150 years, the races mixed to such an extent, it is basically impossible to find an Asian-only or Caucasian-only genome type, "pure" enough to design a virus.

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What we don't know yet is do you survive the infection.

Because once you fight it off and are weak, do you get it again by design of this weaponized virus or re-infect by a mutated version. Finally finishing you off after multiple attacks on your weakened state. Fuck

China is reporting re-infection. China is also the place where we would get this data first but they are lying and withholding.
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OP, on your Main Page Update, you wrote:

The new model will have its critical period between March 2nd-March 8th., when it will be adjusted again, if new information regarding the R0, contagion chance and other related information come to light.

If I remember correctly, you previously mentioned that the range of infection to watch for was 800-1000 outside China by Feb 15/16 (I may be confusing the information, so my apologies). Based on your revised dates, does the 800-1000 number still apply?

Would you be kind enough to expand on this revised “critical period” please, and what we are watching for.

Thanks in advance.
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Excellent Question!

I hope the OP provides an answer.
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My old model was based on a scientific model that was, at the date, used by every single epidemiologist.

My old model was scrapped because the targeted 800-1,000 cases did not took place when I expected them to.


And no wonder, since the latest data, also from all epidemiologists, was adjusted...so I adjusted my model as well.


The old model critical period failed to deliver, but not by much. About 40%, or 10-12 days.


The new model is much more stronger, and it is optimistic, could fail, in the other way, by couple days. If it's a bigger margin, like 6 days (regardless if it's +6 or -6 days), I will adjust the model again.


But, as it is right now...the current model is holding strong, after almost 10 days, with almost no error.
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Am I missing something how is it holding strong. The actual numbers are not the same as the predicted or am I missing something?
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2 more cases confirmed in Milan.

Authorities are asking citizens from 2 towns close to Milan to stay indoors to prevent the spread of the virus.


7 cases in Genoa undertaking deep investigations. Most likely they tested positive in preliminary tests.

A press release will take place in Genoa at 17:30 local time (16:30 GMT).

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Update: 6 cases confirmed now
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9 confirmed now.


By the end of the week will be 50+ in Italy. It will follow the cluster growth in South Korea.


Most likely 6-8 more cases will be announced today, or 12, if the Genoa cluster is confirmed.
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10 more cases in Italy...

19 in total atm. A little bit more then what I expected. Likely more cases will be announced today.

It might jump over 70 cases by week's end in Italy...

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update: first dead in Italy
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HOW WONG TIL NEW NWUMBUHS?!...
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28 days later.... Kaplan-Meier survival plot of #COVID19 patients with #SARSCoV2 shows ~50% mortality among Wuhan patients hospitalized in the ICU. “The mortality of critically ill patients with SARS-CoV-2 pneumonia at 28 days is considerable”. Oy.


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hi again, from Iowa, so lets say you have a friend with an important job for one of the acronyms, abc, etc... if the US was going too shit, why would that person buy a brand new mustang, it doesn't add up
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hi again, from Iowa, so lets say you have a friend with an important job for one of the acronyms, abc, etc... if the US was going too shit, why would that person buy a brand new mustang, it doesn't add up
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If you might be one of the walking dead, then it's now or never. Fulfill that dream before it's too late....
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china lives matter.
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hi again, from Iowa, so lets say you have a friend with an important job for one of the acronyms, abc, etc... if the US was going too shit, why would that person buy a brand new mustang, it doesn't add up
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It's obvious that you didn't watch The Bucket List. Because if you did, you wouldn't have asked your question.
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