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After reading all this I’ve decided to stick with our plan to take the kids to Disneyland for the week. Leave Saturday from Vancouver and will stay a week around Disneyland. It might be stupid but I’ve been around GLP for a very long time and all I ever see is people shitting their pants. Paranoia isn’t going to effect my life, if it did I’d be in a bunker still waiting for y2k.
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Scary , but i lost my trust in media and news reports, dooms with Iran, Syria ,Russia impending WW3. The evil rulers of this world want us to live in panic and fear; you could be right, but i believe this doom will die out over next weeks, moths but will be used to push vaccines sterilization depopulation agenda.
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Idk about that..most people are in the dark about this or just look at is as being just the flu.

Doom on
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After reading all this I’ve decided to stick with our plan to take the kids to Disneyland for the week. Leave Saturday from Vancouver and will stay a week around Disneyland. It might be stupid but I’ve been around GLP for a very long time and all I ever see is people shitting their pants. Paranoia isn’t going to effect my life, if it did I’d be in a bunker still waiting for y2k.
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there's no paranoia or psychosis here. our eyes a wide open.
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An excellent analysis!

However, I have not seen anyone talking about the vaccine that we already have. This is even a bigger problem than the actual virus, because most likely it will become mandatory for certain people who work in medical or with the public.

Then, the vaccine could easily become mandatory for school children, and then the parents, and before you know it, everyone will be required to be vaccinated.

From what I have heard (from AJ) this was a bio-weapon from Canada, and a couple of Chinese spies stole a sample of it. We have the vaccine, the question is, how much do we have on hand, how fast can we make more, and who gets it first.

I think the US/Canada will vaccinate, and this in theory will cut down the infection rate dramatically. But...what else will they sneak into your vaccine. Maybe some mercury, some live virus, maybe some nano-technology?

I know many of you doubt anything that AJ says, but in this case, he seems well informed and very serious. His film END GAME outlines this exact scenario. Something to think about!

FEMA camp reg
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BTW the earth is definitely Flat.

like obvious AF so.
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An excellent analysis!

However, I have not seen anyone talking about the vaccine that we already have. This is even a bigger problem than the actual virus, because most likely it will become mandatory for certain people who work in medical or with the public.

Then, the vaccine could easily become mandatory for school children, and then the parents, and before you know it, everyone will be required to be vaccinated.

From what I have heard (from AJ) this was a bio-weapon from Canada, and a couple of Chinese spies stole a sample of it. We have the vaccine, the question is, how much do we have on hand, how fast can we make more, and who gets it first.

I think the US/Canada will vaccinate, and this in theory will cut down the infection rate dramatically. But...what else will they sneak into your vaccine. Maybe some mercury, some live virus, maybe some nano-technology?

I know many of you doubt anything that AJ says, but in this case, he seems well informed and very serious. His film END GAME outlines this exact scenario. Something to think about!

:FEMA camp reg:
 Quoting: ThirstyMarlin


You can actually relax for now. Closest they can get a vaccine for this is 8 weeks, they cant do it any faster, anything else u read is bullshit.And they dont even know what theyr facing yet, since the virus keeps mutating..There are no CURED patients at this point just TREATED ones, its a huge diffrence.
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OP, if you may. What are your qualifications to publish this model outcome?

I want to use your data. More about the author will help a lot.

Please, thank you!
 Quoting: Nonentity



I am the author of the model.As for qualifications, they are irrelevant. The model is based on people who are (or should be) highly qualified.

It is nothing but a mathematical model, that used 4 different patterns, based on Spanish Flu, a Harvard epidemiologist R0 of 2.6, the Chinese official numbers and a theoretical weaponized virus.


All patterns but the one from Harvard failed to deliver, showing major errors the moment the cases outside China started to be announced.

The Harvard model also failed, but the error was minimal. Hence, I modified the Harvard model based on a R0 of 2.6 and 85% (or 0.8 modifier) infection chance, to a staggering R0 of 2.2, 2.4 and 2.6 with 0.7 and 0.8, considering the incipient stage of the pandemic outside China.

The R0 is going to increase from 2.2 to 2.6 and the modifier from 0.7 to 0.8 very quickly, in the next 5 days (by Feb 3rd.), because no measures to stop the virus spread are being taken.

The R0 is going to jump to 3 and above after Feb. 6th., again, because no measures are in place to stop the epidemic.
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Thank you for taking the time to answer my question.

I believe that you are correct.


Do you have any way to know the maximum mortality rate at this point? I'm afraid that it will be higly transmittable with low mortality at first, then shift into high mortality.
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After reading all this I’ve decided to stick with our plan to take the kids to Disneyland for the week. Leave Saturday from Vancouver and will stay a week around Disneyland. It might be stupid but I’ve been around GLP for a very long time and all I ever see is people shitting their pants. Paranoia isn’t going to effect my life, if it did I’d be in a bunker still waiting for y2k.
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Oh wow that's a tough position to be in. if you cancel Disneyland trip and nothing comes of it your kids will feel terribly bummed out. Your word will lose value.

But on the other hand if you're wrong and shit gets real bad you're stuck.

God bless and have fun!
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An excellent analysis!

However, I have not seen anyone talking about the vaccine that we already have. This is even a bigger problem than the actual virus, because most likely it will become mandatory for certain people who work in medical or with the public.

Then, the vaccine could easily become mandatory for school children, and then the parents, and before you know it, everyone will be required to be vaccinated.

From what I have heard (from AJ) this was a bio-weapon from Canada, and a couple of Chinese spies stole a sample of it. We have the vaccine, the question is, how much do we have on hand, how fast can we make more, and who gets it first.

I think the US/Canada will vaccinate, and this in theory will cut down the infection rate dramatically. But...what else will they sneak into your vaccine. Maybe some mercury, some live virus, maybe some nano-technology?

I know many of you doubt anything that AJ says, but in this case, he seems well informed and very serious. His film END GAME outlines this exact scenario. Something to think about!

:FEMA camp reg:
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What do the map segments/pins represent?
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An excellent analysis!

However, I have not seen anyone talking about the vaccine that we already have. This is even a bigger problem than the actual virus, because most likely it will become mandatory for certain people who work in medical or with the public.

Then, the vaccine could easily become mandatory for school children, and then the parents, and before you know it, everyone will be required to be vaccinated.

From what I have heard (from AJ) this was a bio-weapon from Canada, and a couple of Chinese spies stole a sample of it. We have the vaccine, the question is, how much do we have on hand, how fast can we make more, and who gets it first.

I think the US/Canada will vaccinate, and this in theory will cut down the infection rate dramatically. But...what else will they sneak into your vaccine. Maybe some mercury, some live virus, maybe some nano-technology?

I know many of you doubt anything that AJ says, but in this case, he seems well informed and very serious. His film END GAME outlines this exact scenario. Something to think about!

FEMA camp reg
 Quoting: ThirstyMarlin


You can actually relax for now. Closest they can get a vaccine for this is 8 weeks, they cant do it any faster, anything else u read is bullshit.And they dont even know what theyr facing yet, since the virus keeps mutating..There are no CURED patients at this point just TREATED ones, its a huge diffrence.
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Lol, vaccine in 8 weeks?
It takes years to make a vaccine. You have to do human trials, effects, etc. The only vaccine they will have is if it's a bioweapon they have developed years ago and developed the vaccine for. Us Military assests and government officials would be the first to get it. Whatever they inject into populous up for debate.
Whatever they do, know that if you get a quikie vaccine in the next couple months, taker beware.
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OP, if you may. What are your qualifications to publish this model outcome?

I want to use your data. More about the author will help a lot.

Please, thank you!
 Quoting: Nonentity



I am the author of the model.As for qualifications, they are irrelevant. The model is based on people who are (or should be) highly qualified.

It is nothing but a mathematical model, that used 4 different patterns, based on Spanish Flu, a Harvard epidemiologist R0 of 2.6, the Chinese official numbers and a theoretical weaponized virus.


All patterns but the one from Harvard failed to deliver, showing major errors the moment the cases outside China started to be announced.

The Harvard model also failed, but the error was minimal. Hence, I modified the Harvard model based on a R0 of 2.6 and 85% (or 0.8 modifier) infection chance, to a staggering R0 of 2.2, 2.4 and 2.6 with 0.7 and 0.8, considering the incipient stage of the pandemic outside China.

The R0 is going to increase from 2.2 to 2.6 and the modifier from 0.7 to 0.8 very quickly, in the next 5 days (by Feb 3rd.), because no measures to stop the virus spread are being taken.

The R0 is going to jump to 3 and above after Feb. 6th., again, because no measures are in place to stop the epidemic.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Thank you for taking the time to answer my question.

I believe that you are correct.


Do you have any way to know the maximum mortality rate at this point? I'm afraid that it will be higly transmittable with low mortality at first, then shift into high mortality.
 Quoting: Nonentity

Then it becomes a dud and dies unless it can well?
Its typically either highly transmissable OR highly lethal and it loses one for the other.
Or we would have been gone long ago.
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Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line.
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An excellent analysis!

However, I have not seen anyone talking about the vaccine that we already have. This is even a bigger problem than the actual virus, because most likely it will become mandatory for certain people who work in medical or with the public.

Then, the vaccine could easily become mandatory for school children, and then the parents, and before you know it, everyone will be required to be vaccinated.

From what I have heard (from AJ) this was a bio-weapon from Canada, and a couple of Chinese spies stole a sample of it. We have the vaccine, the question is, how much do we have on hand, how fast can we make more, and who gets it first.

I think the US/Canada will vaccinate, and this in theory will cut down the infection rate dramatically. But...what else will they sneak into your vaccine. Maybe some mercury, some live virus, maybe some nano-technology?

I know many of you doubt anything that AJ says, but in this case, he seems well informed and very serious. His film END GAME outlines this exact scenario. Something to think about!

FEMA camp reg
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What do the map segments/pins represent?
 Quoting: Far Away


FEMA regions I believe
"Come get some"
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In a recent simulation, a coronavirus killed 65 million people


[link to futurism.com (secure)]

the simulation exercise — and despite their best efforts, they couldn’t prevent the hypothetical coronavirus from killing 65 million people.
The fictional coronavirus at the center of the Event 201 simulation — a collaboration between the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, the World Economic Forum, and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation — was called CAPS, and it started with pigs in Brazil before spreading to farmers, not unlike how 2019-nCoV reportedly began with animals before spreading to people.
In the simulation, CAPS infected people all across the globe within six months, and by the 18-month mark, it had killed 65 million people and triggered a global financial crisis
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After reading all this I’ve decided to stick with our plan to take the kids to Disneyland for the week. Leave Saturday from Vancouver and will stay a week around Disneyland. It might be stupid but I’ve been around GLP for a very long time and all I ever see is people shitting their pants. Paranoia isn’t going to effect my life, if it did I’d be in a bunker still waiting for y2k.
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Oh wow that's a tough position to be in. if you cancel Disneyland trip and nothing comes of it your kids will feel terribly bummed out. Your word will lose value.

But on the other hand if you're wrong and shit gets real bad you're stuck.

God bless and have fun!



Thanks, I am concerned. Going to take what precautions I can but if it is as bad as that say here then it doesn’t matter, we are all getting it. That said I would hate to be trapped in the LA area.
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An excellent analysis!

However, I have not seen anyone talking about the vaccine that we already have. This is even a bigger problem than the actual virus, because most likely it will become mandatory for certain people who work in medical or with the public.

Then, the vaccine could easily become mandatory for school children, and then the parents, and before you know it, everyone will be required to be vaccinated.

From what I have heard (from AJ) this was a bio-weapon from Canada, and a couple of Chinese spies stole a sample of it. We have the vaccine, the question is, how much do we have on hand, how fast can we make more, and who gets it first.

I think the US/Canada will vaccinate, and this in theory will cut down the infection rate dramatically. But...what else will they sneak into your vaccine. Maybe some mercury, some live virus, maybe some nano-technology?

I know many of you doubt anything that AJ says, but in this case, he seems well informed and very serious. His film END GAME outlines this exact scenario. Something to think about!

:FEMA camp reg:
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What do the map segments/pins represent?
 Quoting: Far Away


FEMA regions I believe
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Thank you- I finally figured it out. hf
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Who has the money to just stock on what a years worth of supplies for a family of 4 on avg. You are looking at 10k easy then as if stocking up is going to help pay the bills while everything is still due until the complete collapse which may take a year. So in the meantime folks out trying to make a living are getting infected, what good does stocking up do? hrmmmmm we are fooked the end.
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Plant a garden instead.
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hesright
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End the lock down now!
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can you place this in your calculus?....
China's National Health Commission: "We now have 10,000 confirmed cases"
China's National Health Commission: "We now have 10,000 confirmed cases". This was earlier today. The numbers that will coming out tonight will be even higher.
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An excellent analysis!

However, I have not seen anyone talking about the vaccine that we already have. This is even a bigger problem than the actual virus, because most likely it will become mandatory for certain people who work in medical or with the public.

Then, the vaccine could easily become mandatory for school children, and then the parents, and before you know it, everyone will be required to be vaccinated.

From what I have heard (from AJ) this was a bio-weapon from Canada, and a couple of Chinese spies stole a sample of it. We have the vaccine, the question is, how much do we have on hand, how fast can we make more, and who gets it first.

I think the US/Canada will vaccinate, and this in theory will cut down the infection rate dramatically. But...what else will they sneak into your vaccine. Maybe some mercury, some live virus, maybe some nano-technology?

I know many of you doubt anything that AJ says, but in this case, he seems well informed and very serious. His film END GAME outlines this exact scenario. Something to think about!

FEMA camp reg
 Quoting: ThirstyMarlin


You can actually relax for now. Closest they can get a vaccine for this is 8 weeks, they cant do it any faster, anything else u read is bullshit.And they dont even know what theyr facing yet, since the virus keeps mutating..There are no CURED patients at this point just TREATED ones, its a huge diffrence.
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Lol, vaccine in 8 weeks?
It takes years to make a vaccine. You have to do human trials, effects, etc. The only vaccine they will have is if it's a bioweapon they have developed years ago and developed the vaccine for. Us Military assests and government officials would be the first to get it. Whatever they inject into populous up for debate.
Whatever they do, know that if you get a quikie vaccine in the next couple months, taker beware.
 Quoting: MKPitBull

No, it does not take years and i read that the first vaccine is in the patent and second of all, the only country with human standards, told the world standards dont matter anymore, especially if you don't use eggs - they are playing with genetic drugs and "all" vaccines and they need a few thousand guinea pigs to sell it for the money.
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind"

Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line.
Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too.

I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo.
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What "model" asshole?......

Every infectious/predator-prey/genetic dispersion/population etc. "MODEL" I have ever seen was a partial diff. eq....

So where's the fucking "model" loser? I just see some internet bullshit from a wannabe. Oh, that's right, you never took a University level math advanced Mathematical modeling course have you... Wasn't a question.
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An excellent analysis!

However, I have not seen anyone talking about the vaccine that we already have. This is even a bigger problem than the actual virus, because most likely it will become mandatory for certain people who work in medical or with the public.

Then, the vaccine could easily become mandatory for school children, and then the parents, and before you know it, everyone will be required to be vaccinated.

From what I have heard (from AJ) this was a bio-weapon from Canada, and a couple of Chinese spies stole a sample of it. We have the vaccine, the question is, how much do we have on hand, how fast can we make more, and who gets it first.

I think the US/Canada will vaccinate, and this in theory will cut down the infection rate dramatically. But...what else will they sneak into your vaccine. Maybe some mercury, some live virus, maybe some nano-technology?

I know many of you doubt anything that AJ says, but in this case, he seems well informed and very serious. His film END GAME outlines this exact scenario. Something to think about!

:FEMA camp reg:
 Quoting: ThirstyMarlin


You can actually relax for now. Closest they can get a vaccine for this is 8 weeks, they cant do it any faster, anything else u read is bullshit.And they dont even know what theyr facing yet, since the virus keeps mutating..There are no CURED patients at this point just TREATED ones, its a huge diffrence.
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Lol, vaccine in 8 weeks?
It takes years to make a vaccine. You have to do human trials, effects, etc. The only vaccine they will have is if it's a bioweapon they have developed years ago and developed the vaccine for. Us Military assests and government officials would be the first to get it. Whatever they inject into populous up for debate.
Whatever they do, know that if you get a quikie vaccine in the next couple months, taker beware.
 Quoting: MKPitBull


8 weeks if the virus doesnt suffer any major mutations meanwhile, and i dont think it will be any untill summers end, untill the virus has enough time to adapt itsellf to a larger spectre of organisms (mosqitoes should be up soon) so they will rush this as hell, to prevent a second mutation.. i guess. You`re right that it takes somewhat years, but in this case, they will rush. I mean hey... better to have 100.000 vaccine casualties than 5 bil casualties from a deadly virus mutation.
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After reading all this I’ve decided to stick with our plan to take the kids to Disneyland for the week. Leave Saturday from Vancouver and will stay a week around Disneyland. It might be stupid but I’ve been around GLP for a very long time and all I ever see is people shitting their pants. Paranoia isn’t going to effect my life, if it did I’d be in a bunker still waiting for y2k.
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Next week is fine, three weeks no. Understand statistics better. It's not a problem till a lot of folks are invented and that's a few weeks away. Enjoy while you can!
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After reading all this I’ve decided to stick with our plan to take the kids to Disneyland for the week. Leave Saturday from Vancouver and will stay a week around Disneyland. It might be stupid but I’ve been around GLP for a very long time and all I ever see is people shitting their pants. Paranoia isn’t going to effect my life, if it did I’d be in a bunker still waiting for y2k.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68297636


Oh wow that's a tough position to be in. if you cancel Disneyland trip and nothing comes of it your kids will feel terribly bummed out. Your word will lose value.

But on the other hand if you're wrong and shit gets real bad you're stuck.

God bless and have fun!



Thanks, I am concerned. Going to take what precautions I can but if it is as bad as that say here then it doesn’t matter, we are all getting it. That said I would hate to be trapped in the LA area.
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I'm sorry but that's just plain dumb. Take your kids to Banff, it's closer and will change them for the better. Nature is our master, and if you're here on this site, you must realize that at some level.

Disneyland is stupid commercial bullshit that we have been conditioned to believe, just like the media being complicit on the spread of this stupid virus.

If you do go, best of luck to you. It will likely be your last trip for a while. Best of luck.
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Scary , but i lost my trust in media and news reports, dooms with Iran, Syria ,Russia impending WW3. The evil rulers of this world want us to live in panic and fear; you could be right, but i believe this doom will die out over next weeks, moths but will be used to push vaccines sterilization depopulation agenda.
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Idk about that..most people are in the dark about this or just look at is as being just the flu.

Doom on
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We are being played, from elections, brexit, ww3 , media panic our perception of reality is stirred in the direction they want through fear.They will make us beg for the mark of the beast on forehead or right hand to track us and inject a life saver vaccine. The dark side werewolf is watching the sheeple.
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Check out the plague inc. game for phones. It's fun and puts things in perspective.. lol
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you and I both know the RO number of 2.6 is bullpucky
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For China and South East Asia it is.

By my model is adjusted for US, EU, Japan, SK, Australia, NZ and other developed countries to 2.2 in the incipient phase to 2.6 in the mid stage of the pandemic.

For South East Asia, the R0 is 2.6 in the incipient stage, and 3 in the mid stage of the pandemic.


After that, it won't matter how big the R0 is, the society will be collapsed anyway, and nobody will give a fuck about it.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


true on the it wont matter part.

we are screwed I can feel it in my bones.
 Quoting: Jake


Oh yeah, we are. Big time.


This is why I bolded what it must be done to limit and eventually stop the pandemic...but we all know that they won't do it, until way too fucking late.


I also didn't bothered on death rate, because it is irrelevant. The social collapse will kill many more people than the virus will.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector

I agree. Best thing I think of doing is get supplies this week, for a month(all I can afford)and batten down the hatches.
Now is the time for me to contemplate why all the ufos have been showing up more and more...
And consider all the legends that are written about this time.
Strange things may just happen.
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Given these facts, can I ask what you, yourself, the author and OP, are doing for prep or preventative measures or just your basic mindset?

It seems that prep just stalls the inevitable. How can anyone, looking at numbers like this, be in a calm state? (not saying you are)

Thanks (this is not an anti-thread comment; just curious
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This is assuming a highly doubtful starting point:

January 28th 00:00 GMT : Between 3,000 and 4,000 infected people, in different stages of incubation (1 to 14 days). Presenting symptoms : 37-38 cases.)

There is a lot of increasingly validated information out there demonstrating that there are 45,000 to as many as 140,000 infected people as of today. All due to intentional under-reporting or due to inability to diagnose actual cases (lack of supplies, staff, IT...).

Considering this, your scenario could be way too conservative.
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But thats ok considering it was over the doom rubicon anyway.
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its spreading but its not a pandemic.

mostly weak old people die. for everyone else it is just a bad cold.

Havent seen anything to indicate otherwise.
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Here is your $3.50

How about you travel to Wuhan and let us know first hand from the ground how much a nothing burger this chimeric virus really is?
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In a recent simulation, a coronavirus killed 65 million people


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the simulation exercise — and despite their best efforts, they couldn’t prevent the hypothetical coronavirus from killing 65 million people.
The fictional coronavirus at the center of the Event 201 simulation — a collaboration between the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, the World Economic Forum, and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation — was called CAPS, and it started with pigs in Brazil before spreading to farmers, not unlike how 2019-nCoV reportedly began with animals before spreading to people.
In the simulation, CAPS infected people all across the globe within six months, and by the 18-month mark, it had killed 65 million people and triggered a global financial crisis
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so, is this some sort of new video game, or what?
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An excellent analysis!

However, I have not seen anyone talking about the vaccine that we already have. This is even a bigger problem than the actual virus, because most likely it will become mandatory for certain people who work in medical or with the public.

Then, the vaccine could easily become mandatory for school children, and then the parents, and before you know it, everyone will be required to be vaccinated.

From what I have heard (from AJ) this was a bio-weapon from Canada, and a couple of Chinese spies stole a sample of it. We have the vaccine, the question is, how much do we have on hand, how fast can we make more, and who gets it first.

I think the US/Canada will vaccinate, and this in theory will cut down the infection rate dramatically. But...what else will they sneak into your vaccine. Maybe some mercury, some live virus, maybe some nano-technology?

I know many of you doubt anything that AJ says, but in this case, he seems well informed and very serious. His film END GAME outlines this exact scenario. Something to think about!

:FEMA camp reg:
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You can actually relax for now. Closest they can get a vaccine for this is 8 weeks, they cant do it any faster, anything else u read is bullshit.And they dont even know what theyr facing yet, since the virus keeps mutating..There are no CURED patients at this point just TREATED ones, its a huge diffrence.
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Lol, vaccine in 8 weeks?
It takes years to make a vaccine. You have to do human trials, effects, etc. The only vaccine they will have is if it's a bioweapon they have developed years ago and developed the vaccine for. Us Military assests and government officials would be the first to get it. Whatever they inject into populous up for debate.
Whatever they do, know that if you get a quikie vaccine in the next couple months, taker beware.
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8 weeks if the virus doesnt suffer any major mutations meanwhile, and i dont think it will be any untill summers end, untill the virus has enough time to adapt itsellf to a larger spectre of organisms (mosqitoes should be up soon) so they will rush this as hell, to prevent a second mutation.. i guess. You`re right that it takes somewhat years, but in this case, they will rush. I mean hey... better to have 100.000 vaccine casualties than 5 bil casualties from a deadly virus mutation.
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This virus is all about mutation, haven't you been paying attention?

Vaccine is worthless.

Vitamin C or die.





GLP