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WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

 
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dr i'm reading all is good in china, no virus no pandemic nothing

i can't find a reliable source about china. do you?
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There are no reliable sources.


Everything from China is propaganda.


Everything.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Exactly. All anecdotal data that has been smuggled out points to brutal treatment of all outbreaks and brutal repression of complainings, while maintaining the appearance of having it under control at all costs.
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More confirmation of what we already know.

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20% of verified coronavirus patients did not develop immunity

Only 80% of people who tested positive for coronavirus had antibodies to the virus, according to a report published Monday by the Central Bureau of Statistics, the Health Ministry and the Gertner Institute.
The results mean that a percentage of people who develop asymptomatic or even mild cases of the virus could contract it again.
The report was based on a serological survey conducted between June and August in the haredi (ultra-Orthodox) community of Bnei Brak. The city has had some of the highest rates of infection in the country.
The survey also found that the number of people who tested positive for antibodies increased with the number of sick patients, thought not proportionally.
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dr i'm reading all is good in china, no virus no pandemic nothing

i can't find a reliable source about china. do you?
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"In Italy we are able to track up to 2000 cases per day with the capabilities we have. With 12 thousand infections, everything goes wrong, the system goes haywire: there is no contact tracing or Immune App capable of withstanding such an impact."

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"In Italy we are able to track up to 2000 cases per day with the capabilities we have. With 12 thousand infections, everything goes wrong, the system goes haywire: there is no contact tracing or Immune App capable of withstanding such an impact."

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As of now, Italy is toast
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"In Italy we are able to track up to 2000 cases per day with the capabilities we have. With 12 thousand infections, everything goes wrong, the system goes haywire: there is no contact tracing or Immune App capable of withstanding such an impact."

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As of now, Italy is toast
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Hi cutegirl, did you return home? do you have news of Spain? It seems that even there the situation isn't very good.
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Word from here, is that IF it records 15,000 plus Daily infections By Friday, a lockdown will be issued.

Yesterday was 8000, still very high, I wonder what this week will bring.
 Quoting: Gamechanger 2.0 77356084



You will get to around 13,500 this week, give it +/- 10%.


If Czechia hits 15k this week...going to be bad.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


NEW: Czech Republic reports record increases in coronavirus cases, deaths, and hospitalizations

- New cases: 11,984
- Positivity rate: 26.3% (-3.3)
- In hospital: 4,064 (+343)
- In ICU: 634 (+45)
- New deaths: 106

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Master DR, I have no words to describe the gratitude for your work.

I've been following your thread since the first post, and after validating and re-validating the numbers (because I'm also a master of numbers), I decided in January to remodel my whole life to escape the horrible future that awaits the cities.

I used all the credit lines I had, (fuck the banks), invested everything in crypto and physical gold, recovered the investments, spent everything on resources useful for survival, and have lived in the jungle, building a refuge with my own hands. It has been months of a lot of struggle, but it is just what is expected of a family man, who is a man and defends his family.

I quit my job, burned my name at the banks, and I'm called crazy even by my mother. I chose the path of no return. In my country it is said "I burned the caravels". But I'm still sure I did the right thing.

Hundreds of people had access to your work through me. Its reach is not limited to visitors to this forum, nor is it limited to interweb users.

My family and I are very grateful.
His wisdom and work were our compass.


Note: english is not my language.
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Mr. Borg,

Interesting Name, Not a Bot are you ?

In 3 Months everyone here Will Understand

You Sir, Are the Smartest Man on GLP.

Good Luck to You Sir and May God Bless Your Efforts.

I'll see you on the Other Side.

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Slovenia on Tuesday:

new cases: 1503
positivity 25.5%

How long before we are the new Czechia?
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DR, as I recall, about a couple of months ago you wrote that if the government doesn't impose a new lockdown people will ask it.
I'll tell you how I see things: to avoid the default giving financial aid, a state over-indebted hopes that scared people will get into autolockdown when the game gets tough.
What do you think about that, is my reasoning weird?

ps: I wrote my post in the main thread by mistake, I rewrite it here
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dr i'm reading all is good in china, no virus no pandemic nothing

i can't find a reliable source about china. do you?
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 Quoting: just_me 79515313


This would not have happened in China

"Livorno, stones, sticks and kicks against the police: this is how a group of young people reacts to an anti-Covid control"

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What's the optimal positivity rate? Under 10%? Where people can contact trace confidently.
With European countries over 25%, does that mean they've lost control?
Does any positivity rate over 20% mean things are lost?
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Slovenia on Tuesday:

new cases: 1503
positivity 25.5%

How long before we are the new Czechia?
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You already are.
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What's the optimal positivity rate? Under 10%? Where people can contact trace confidently.
With European countries over 25%, does that mean they've lost control?
Does any positivity rate over 20% mean things are lost?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79502658


Wait until Thursday.


It is not that simple as 10%, 20% and 25%.
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DR, you are appreciated.
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Word from here, is that IF it records 15,000 plus Daily infections By Friday, a lockdown will be issued.

Yesterday was 8000, still very high, I wonder what this week will bring.
 Quoting: Gamechanger 2.0 77356084



You will get to around 13,500 this week, give it +/- 10%.


If Czechia hits 15k this week...going to be bad.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


NEW: Czech Republic reports record increases in coronavirus cases, deaths, and hospitalizations

- New cases: 11,984
- Positivity rate: 26.3% (-3.3)
- In hospital: 4,064 (+343)
- In ICU: 634 (+45)
- New deaths: 106

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That was the final tally in the end. Another record. The shops are shutting as of today, bar pharmacies and food outlets, assuming that means supermarkets.

Leads me onto say, the way that this has been announced many people will go on a last minute shop. My partner is one of these people. I mean I’ve already prepped the necessities, but she represents what most other people will do. Basically the shops will be far busier and chaotic than usual and I can see situations like this as super spreader events, like protests.

As I’ve said before, eyes on czech. What is forecast for all countries (across the range of scenarios) will happen here first. So to anyone reading this, get yourself ready. I’m assuming you have already, but many won’t have out here.I’ve said for months to family and friends to get ready for this time. No one listened. Then today I have panic calls saying how the shops are closing tomorrow and it’s a last minute rush. DON’T be in that position anyone! :)

I can also see announcements coming in future saying, well we’ve locked down now, and still infection numbers aren’t at an acceptable level, which will then entail a list of stricter restrictions, paving the way for the vaccine, which will grant you a pass to travel, buy and sell.
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NEW: UK reports nearly 27,000 new coronavirus cases, by far the biggest one-day increase on record

- New cases: 26,688
- Positivity rate: 9.5% (+1.3)
- In hospital: 7,420 (+521)
- In ICU: 693 (+39)
- New deaths: 191
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20 European countries record highest ever daily cases

15,199 new infections in Italy is a significant rise on the previous record of 11,705

Luxembourg saw 430 new cases, Belarus 733, North Macedonia 640 and Greece 865 - they join the UK (26,688) among the latest to see new records.

Earlier, the following records were made public:

Netherlands - 8,500 new cases

Latvia - 188

Bosnia & Herzegovina - 728

Romania - 4,848

Switzerland - 5,596

Armenia - 1,836

Lithuania - 311

Czechia - 11,984

Ukraine - 6,719

Poland - 10,040

Croatia - 1,424

Slovenia - 1,503

Slovakia - 2,202

Bulgaria - 1,336


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20 European countries record highest ever daily cases

15,199 new infections in Italy is a significant rise on the previous record of 11,705

Luxembourg saw 430 new cases, Belarus 733, North Macedonia 640 and Greece 865 - they join the UK (26,688) among the latest to see new records.

Earlier, the following records were made public:

Netherlands - 8,500 new cases

Latvia - 188

Bosnia & Herzegovina - 728

Romania - 4,848

Switzerland - 5,596

Armenia - 1,836

Lithuania - 311

Czechia - 11,984

Ukraine - 6,719

Poland - 10,040

Croatia - 1,424

Slovenia - 1,503

Slovakia - 2,202

Bulgaria - 1,336


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I could have missed it, but are flights still on between other countries? Sorry if it's been answered already.
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NEW: UK reports nearly 27,000 new coronavirus cases, by far the biggest one-day increase on record

- New cases: 26,688
- Positivity rate: 9.5% (+1.3)
- In hospital: 7,420 (+521)
- In ICU: 693 (+39)
- New deaths: 191

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Admissions 996 on the U.K. gov website

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Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Interim numbers here are 8840, again higher than I’ve seen before. Prime minister is commenting that an infection rate of around 15,000 can be expected for the final tally tomorrow.

So most shops apart from essentials are to close.The government is admitting, that if these measures are not taken, the hospital system would crash by November 7th-11th. Even hearing talks about refrigerated trucks. Imagine these numbers keep rising up until November 7th-11th?! From what I understand the state of emergency is in effect until November 3rd.

How on earth will this mini break do any good? Cant see that happening. So it’ll be interesting how this goes until early November.
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Interim numbers here are 8840, again higher than I’ve seen before. Prime minister is commenting that an infection rate of around 15,000 can be expected for the final tally tomorrow.

So most shops apart from essentials are to close.The government is admitting, that if these measures are not taken, the hospital system would crash by November 7th-11th. Even hearing talks about refrigerated trucks. Imagine these numbers keep rising up until November 7th-11th?! From what I understand the state of emergency is in effect until November 3rd.

How on earth will this mini break do any good? Cant see that happening. So it’ll be interesting how this goes until early November.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77356084



Your government is lying. Czech medical system collapsed several days ago, when Czechia started to transfer patients to Germany.


The moment a country cannot support all its patients, the medical system collapsed.


In tomorrow's update, I will clarify a number of things that the vast majority of people , including many on this thread that know more then most, are not aware of.


Tomorrow's update will shed light on what a collapsed medical system means, when the alarm bells have to be considered and what measures should be taken to prevent and/or decrease the spread.

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Interim numbers here are 8840, again higher than I’ve seen before. Prime minister is commenting that an infection rate of around 15,000 can be expected for the final tally tomorrow.

So most shops apart from essentials are to close.The government is admitting, that if these measures are not taken, the hospital system would crash by November 7th-11th. Even hearing talks about refrigerated trucks. Imagine these numbers keep rising up until November 7th-11th?! From what I understand the state of emergency is in effect until November 3rd.

How on earth will this mini break do any good? Cant see that happening. So it’ll be interesting how this goes until early November.
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Thank for your first hand experience - this is really telling.

Please stay as safe as you can!
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Interim numbers here are 8840, again higher than I’ve seen before. Prime minister is commenting that an infection rate of around 15,000 can be expected for the final tally tomorrow.

So most shops apart from essentials are to close.The government is admitting, that if these measures are not taken, the hospital system would crash by November 7th-11th. Even hearing talks about refrigerated trucks. Imagine these numbers keep rising up until November 7th-11th?! From what I understand the state of emergency is in effect until November 3rd.

How on earth will this mini break do any good? Cant see that happening. So it’ll be interesting how this goes until early November.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77356084



Your government is lying. Czech medical system collapsed several days ago, when Czechia started to transfer patients to Germany.


The moment a country cannot support all its patients, the medical system collapsed.


In tomorrow's update, I will clarify a number of things that the vast majority of people , including many on this thread that know more then most, are not aware of.


Tomorrow's update will shed light on what a collapsed medical system means, when the alarm bells have to be considered and what measures should be taken to prevent and/or decrease the spread.
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Thanks DR I’m looking forward to the update.
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Interim numbers here are 8840, again higher than I’ve seen before. Prime minister is commenting that an infection rate of around 15,000 can be expected for the final tally tomorrow.

So most shops apart from essentials are to close.The government is admitting, that if these measures are not taken, the hospital system would crash by November 7th-11th. Even hearing talks about refrigerated trucks. Imagine these numbers keep rising up until November 7th-11th?! From what I understand the state of emergency is in effect until November 3rd.

How on earth will this mini break do any good? Cant see that happening. So it’ll be interesting how this goes until early November.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77356084



Your government is lying. Czech medical system collapsed several days ago, when Czechia started to transfer patients to Germany.


The moment a country cannot support all its patients, the medical system collapsed.


In tomorrow's update, I will clarify a number of things that the vast majority of people , including many on this thread that know more then most, are not aware of.


Tomorrow's update will shed light on what a collapsed medical system means, when the alarm bells have to be considered and what measures should be taken to prevent and/or decrease the spread.
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Hi DR. Yes I’m sure they are.im aware of the transferring of the patients. I think they worded it in the media as “Germans offer help if it’s needed” when in actual fact as you say, it already happened.also believe the truth is being obfuscated, many would agree on that. I feel that ‘they’ (as many countries are) are weaving a story to not promote any real panic, even though they seem to be more frank than other countries at times here.

I actually believe rather than (as most would think) those in power doing their best to stop this, I think they’ve actually planned intently on how it could be most effectively spread without raising suspicion and keeping people ignorant to the true scale and danger.

I think it really has now passed a threshold here, that’s why I’m wanting to bring attention to this. I also look forward to your perspective as to the bigger picture and forecast into how this could develop. Still there is a calm here, the horses haven’t bolted. But as I say, the true story isn’t being told.
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Interim numbers here are 8840, again higher than I’ve seen before. Prime minister is commenting that an infection rate of around 15,000 can be expected for the final tally tomorrow.

So most shops apart from essentials are to close.The government is admitting, that if these measures are not taken, the hospital system would crash by November 7th-11th. Even hearing talks about refrigerated trucks. Imagine these numbers keep rising up until November 7th-11th?! From what I understand the state of emergency is in effect until November 3rd.

How on earth will this mini break do any good? Cant see that happening. So it’ll be interesting how this goes until early November.
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Thank for your first hand experience - this is really telling.

Please stay as safe as you can!
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I feel a sense of relief I can see/hear this happening as weird as it sounds. Been here since The beginning reading the thread. We are now moving back into reality after a lull this summer.

I’m also fed up of the deniers. I’ve kept myself to myself. Happened to bump into a guy I know. Quick chat. He only went and said it’s only the flu (grr) conversation didn’t last long but I’ve had enough of hearing that Here on GLP. The numbers here reflect the attitude towards this virus, enabling this spread.

I’ve drawn closer to God in this time. Trying to keep myself in good shape mentally and physically. I can see it’s now happening and I’m ready for this. Sensible cautious, but not scared or neurotic. And I know how bad things will get.

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Word from here, is that IF it records 15,000 plus Daily infections By Friday, a lockdown will be issued.

Yesterday was 8000, still very high, I wonder what this week will bring.
 Quoting: Gamechanger 2.0 77356084



You will get to around 13,500 this week, give it +/- 10%.


If Czechia hits 15k this week...going to be bad.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


NEW: Czech Republic reports record increases in coronavirus cases, deaths, and hospitalizations

- New cases: 11,984
- Positivity rate: 26.3% (-3.3)
- In hospital: 4,064 (+343)
- In ICU: 634 (+45)
- New deaths: 106

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That was the final tally in the end. Another record. The shops are shutting as of today, bar pharmacies and food outlets, assuming that means supermarkets.

Leads me onto say, the way that this has been announced many people will go on a last minute shop. My partner is one of these people. I mean I’ve already prepped the necessities, but she represents what most other people will do. Basically the shops will be far busier and chaotic than usual and I can see situations like this as super spreader events, like protests.

As I’ve said before, eyes on czech. What is forecast for all countries (across the range of scenarios) will happen here first. So to anyone reading this, get yourself ready. I’m assuming you have already, but many won’t have out here.I’ve said for months to family and friends to get ready for this time. No one listened. Then today I have panic calls saying how the shops are closing tomorrow and it’s a last minute rush. DON’T be in that position anyone! :)

I can also see announcements coming in future saying, well we’ve locked down now, and still infection numbers aren’t at an acceptable level, which will then entail a list of stricter restrictions, paving the way for the vaccine, which will grant you a pass to travel, buy and sell.
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From the main thread:

siren2 siren2 siren2


Czech is utterly fucked.

15,000 cases is the same number of cases Italy reported today. Italy population = 60 million. Czech population = 10 million.

120 daily deaths per capita US equivalent = ~4000 daily deaths


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I've been following this thread since the first post in January, I was very worried and I was one of the first to warn my family that a serious pandemic was on the way, that we should take action, they called me paranoid until the moment when we were all forced wearing masks. Throughout the year, we got used to the situation and I thought a second wave was unlikely, not because I understood the subject, but because the numbers of cases remained low for months. Now, we are facing a second wave, and much more aggressive than the first, since in some European countries, the number of cases is more than double the worst days of the first wave. Just when I thought that everything would return to normal, I see that nothing will return to normal. Even though fewer deaths are occurring, the health system cannot handle so many cases, and, mainly, the economy cannot handle it, as it was already severely hit months ago. Anyway, we are on the verge of a global collapse, I think there is a great possibility that we will not reach the end of this year without a major social upheaval involving looting, panic, wars. For anyone who was thinking that the Mad Max world was distant, welcome to the new reality, and the reality is this: We are fucked!
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I've been following this thread since the first post in January, I was very worried and I was one of the first to warn my family that a serious pandemic was on the way, that we should take action, they called me paranoid until the moment when we were all forced wearing masks. Throughout the year, we got used to the situation and I thought a second wave was unlikely, not because I understood the subject, but because the numbers of cases remained low for months. Now, we are facing a second wave, and much more aggressive than the first, since in some European countries, the number of cases is more than double the worst days of the first wave. Just when I thought that everything would return to normal, I see that nothing will return to normal. Even though fewer deaths are occurring, the health system cannot handle so many cases, and, mainly, the economy cannot handle it, as it was already severely hit months ago. Anyway, we are on the verge of a global collapse, I think there is a great possibility that we will not reach the end of this year without a major social upheaval involving looting, panic, wars. For anyone who was thinking that the Mad Max world was distant, welcome to the new reality, and the reality is this: We are fucked!
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