WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

Read what you posted. The staff that where laid off are elective surgery paper pushers with little hands on patient care experience because State mandated closure and/or citizens volunteer to stay away. They are closing out the the facelifts and fanny tuck clinics for focus on the in-house medical floor expansions, the dungeons where they put the real sick and dying. Consolidation.

This is where you need to go.
I'll give it to you that hospitals are complicated but Google is not the same as walking into the hospital and taking a look at what is going on.

Seriously. Then take the next step and volunteer for some time. Offer to hold a dying Covid patients hand. They might even give you a free meal.

AC - LJS probably updates the title to update 281 ??

"This is OP's first post in this thread. Obviously OP changed it later on. However beneath this post it says "Last Edited by Lady Jayne Smith on 10/22/2020 12:16 PM"

I don't really feel easy about this. Why did a mod change this post and how did she change it?"



The main post, on the first page of the thread, was changed ONCE, when I updated the model, to reflect new data, from Los Alamos Labs, which was made public in early February.

Since then, not a single comma was edited in the main post.


Lady Jane Smith only updated the TITLE of the thread, couple times when I forgot to do it, after an update.


The OP obviously did NOT changed anything, because if I would have done it, I would have lost my credibility.


The model paused in mid-March, when lock-downs started, because no one can predict how a pandemic evolves or devolves, when world does into full lock-down, an event that NEVER took place before in history.


When the resurgence in the U.S. started in the Summer, I used the model projections, again, and based on those projections, I have predicted the number of epicenters in the U.S. and the Brazil plateau, which were both confirmed to occur when I said it will.

The same model was used to predict the beginning of second wave in Europe, which started when I projected, it developed through September and October exactly as I projected.


To this very date, the model is still the SAME MODEL that was posted on early February, on the main thread, and it was not modified, AT ALL...because IT IS VERY GOOD WORKING MODEL.


Everyone present in this thread since the beginning, knows that the numbers on the main post were UNCHANGED since February.

Last Edited by Recollector on 10/23/2020 07:14 AM

From main thread



"Friday 23 October: BAG reports 6,634 new crown cases - 26.5% positivity rate
In the past 24 hours, a total of 6,634 new coronary infections have been reported in Switzerland and Liechtenstein. According to the Federal Office of Public Health (BAG), 25,061 tests were carried out. The positivity rate is 26.5 percent. Ten people died of Corona. 117 people were hospitalized"

You watch whatever number you want.


I am watching them ALL, because the difference between you and me is that I am looking at the big picture.


You want to watch hospitalization? Be my guest. Take the data from September 1st, in Europe, and the data from yesterday.

See the difference in hospitalizations. And if you there, look at ICU also.


And if you managed to do AT LEAST THAT, see where this is going, and going fast.



But, since you will NEVER bother to spend any time in actually LOOKING at the same very thing you are suggesting (hospitalizations), come back on this thread on November 1st, and tell me again if you see no doom.


You think anyone cares about Thailand?


If Europe goes in full lock-down, the entire world is going to be economically affected, because it will start a domino effect, causing the U.S. economy to crumble, and right after that, China's economy...because China's massive economic output is what it is because Europe and the U.S. are the biggest buyers of China's crap.


If Thailand is erased from the map today, the world won't even blink.


So, don't look outside your window to see doom...the doom is NOT there.

From Repubblica, today

"More and more children and newborns positive for Covid. In the spring we thought that the little ones were immune, but now we hospitalize even a few months old children for respiratory problems", according to "The Breakfast Club" on Radio Capital Massimiliano Spiccia, coordinator of the resuscitation department of the Regina Margherita hospital in Turin. "Children have Covid symptoms that are found among adults. The little sick people are helped with assisted ventilation and also with blood purification. The situation is much more dramatic than in March. We are in difficulty."

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But the significant majority of the towns are made up of soviet apartment style blocks. Small towns but with a high population density. Back in the UK towns would be 3-4 times the sq mile size of these to contain the same population. Also more people are funneled Into the same facilities, due to their being less. Are you based in Czech btw?

Just reading today that the ‘stay at home orders’ (not quarantine Chinese style) are not really affecting the virus spread, perhaps only by 3%. So even though czech is broadly described as being under lockdown, it still has international travel open, nurseries, town to town travel and a range of jobs etc. plus the stay at home order is unreliable due to compliance, or lack of. So this is still leaving vast avenues open to spread, on top of an already out of control situation.

As DR foresaw, schools opening was deemed to allow a much bigger impact of the virus among children due to its ability to adapt.

It is most likely a backlog of previously inconclusive tests, that we're repeated later on, and most got negative.


They just lumped them up in a single day.


Sometimes is the other way around, most inconclusive come back positive.

Sometimes is less inconclusive tests, sometimes more.



It's just how things work, in a bureaucratic society. They don't bother to retroactively correct previous days data, and just drop them in a single day.


Doesn't change anything in a 2 week trend.

It's not "whatever" at all. At least it's honest, compared to the Irish government that calls a "lockdown" what they are doing, and hereby taking their citizens for fools....

I am watching Czech Republic quite closely.


Sometimes in September I said that any country that will have it's schools open through October, are going to be fucked, based on a school opening day in mid-September, so 6 weeks of school in person.

Czechia opened their schools on September 1st, if I am not mistaken, and they closed them down about a week ago or so?

Czechia have already passed the 6 weeks threshold that I considered to be critical for virus spread, on one hand, and virus mutating to better deal with stronger immune systems of the younger hosts (children and adolescents).


I don't think that Czechia can reverse it's current trend earlier then December, if a full lock-down isn't implemented, and even if they manage to reverse it, it will take until January to go back to sustainable levels in hospitals, and February until the number of cases drop to levels allowing removal of lock-downs in a safely manner.

Last Edited by Recollector on 10/23/2020 08:29 AM

Between 10 to 30% of all confirmed cases will be in need of longterm medical care.

So much so U.K. NHS opened specialty clinics. Connecticut and I forget the other states.

Yes. Cases matter.

Schools are hotspots for spreading of the Coronavirus. It would not be that way if all rules were strictly being enforced but they aren't, whatever they are telling you on TV. I have watched myself children in recess (in the school playing ground) not running around indeed but practically all of them standing real close together (like, at 50 cm distances), many with their facemasks off, many also busy eating something probably just justifying having their facemasks off.

This is makes sure the virus DOES get spread. They are not doing what they are pretending or claiming to do. And what's more, children being aware of the Coronavirus regulations as well as adults are, they must be doing this KNOWINGLY.

And DR, thank you.

Yes that’s about right schools have been closed a week or so generally.

I’ve also just been informed via the Mrs that the health minister was spotted going into a restaurant yesterday without a mask. He has been advised to resign and if he doesn’t will be sacked by the PM.

His predecessor was a former reality show contestant if I have that right. He was also sacked within the last two weeks. It’s becoming a bit ridiculous now.

I know every country is doing all they can to preserve their economies, but here it seems they are extra desperate to avoid any full shut down. It should happen today, but there is still a creeping approach.

So if the partial shut downs are basically ineffective, then we should see your worst case scenario play out here within short weeks, or the moving through Jazz’s phases.

Let's remember that Germany put the alert level on 50 new cases per 100,000 inhabitants.... I am fairly confident something like this will never happen in Germany (but then again, let's not be TOO confident, you never can tell for sure how things will work out).

I did not mean to suggest you changed the numbers. I am aware of your updating and I know there is nothing suspicious about that whatsoever. I just wanted to know what exactly was changed by the mod.

Sorry for not having been more clear about that.

Fucking assholes they are... I am not saying all of them, but too many. I remember Mark Rutte without a mask, a few months ago, just having spoken to a public, while leaving the stage returning on his steps to enthusiastically shake hands (with both hands) with the next speaker... just that close from actually hugging him, and with a BIG grin. I thought at that moment he was actually mocking the public. Maybe he wasn't, but that's what it felt like.

yes, there is a limit at 50 in Germany, but the restrictions that are implemented then are very mild. no lockdown at all. Several districts of Berlin are over or near 200/100.000 already. Today they announced that they cannot trace contacts anymore and will only do for "risk patients". That means Berlin has basically fallen.

OK. So it is clear there IS NO lockdown in Czech Republic at all, whatever they may say or even think, and the MSM (and any of their mouthpieces) as usual are not trustworthy news channels.

Maybe if the "lockdown" were actually real and enforced, the virus spread would be afffected more, but as it is, months ago a Dutch data analyst (I think he is called Ab Oosterhuis, his first name was Ab or Ad) said very clearly that if all superspreader events were made prevented and nothing else was done, the virus nonetheless would not be able to spread anymore.

I think this is worth thinking about. It is very posible no actual lockdowns are needed and economies worldwide do not have to suffer - with all consequences thereof.

I'm not interested in Thailand. Besides, nothing is going on here. Romania isn't of much importance either, but I'm praying for them nonetheless.

I don't understand why specific hospitalization data isn't shared here especially since we can now compare it to what occurred in the spring.

France is currently at 34% of hospitalizations reached during their spring peak.

Italy is only at 24% of hospitalizations reached earlier this year.

UK is at 33 percent.

Denmark, Finland, Estonia are at 23% of hospitalizations reached during spring time.

Norway right now is only at 10% of their previous peak.

But we have at least 8 European countries that are currently exceeding their spring numbers. They include (from bad to WORSE):

Croatia at 136%, Latvia at 163%, Slovenia at 226%, Poland at 230%, Hungary at 249%, Slovakia at 285%, Bulgaria at 381% and Czech Republic at 882%

Yet no country (even Czechia) is near the level of hospitalizations that Italy faced at their peak in late March to early April.

Czechia hospitalizations would have to increase more than 50% from here to reach that level of patients per 100,000 people.

Of course, each country has their own ability to handle X number of cases per 100,000.

But besides Czechia it's only Spain, Belgium, Poland and Bulgaria that are surpassing 20 patients in hospital per 100,000 at this point.

Note: Some European countries were excluded

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Meant to state "handle X number of hospitalizations per 100,000", not cases.

19143 new infected in Italy today

UPDATES FROM ITALY

+ 19.143 new positive cases
On 182.032 swab tests

+ 91 dead patients

+ 57 patients in ICU
[new total: 1049 patients currently in ICU]

15% of the total ICU beds (6.628) in italian hospitals are currently occupied by Covid-19 patients
Government is trying to add more 1660 ICU beds in the next few days

+ 855 hospitalized patients
[new total: 10.549 patients currently hospitalized]


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Last Edited by Leonero on 10/23/2020 11:35 AM