2019 nCorV Breakout? When to Bugout?

I was just discussing this with friends in the sticks in northern mi. I live several months off grid up there, either on a lake front or woods, so yes it is as good a bug out place as could be had.

My question is, when should I head north, being off grid makes wintering rather hard as we filter creek water, composting toilets etc. I just told my wife, we should go north in no more than a month or sooner before travel restrictions come into effect. We are now in southern florida. I spent a childhood on the verge of survival and starvation and so know I can endure as can my wife whom loves simplicity. My daughter whom lives up there, thinks I am nuts however LOL I get nervous thinking of being amount hundreds of thousands of people in a SHTF situation instead of a few thousand.

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We are not too far away from finding out that only Asians are going to die from this. The numbers will tell us if non-Asians, at worst, only get a regular flu, then we'll know.

Even if this kills 15% infected, I’ll be alright, young strong white male

Wtf do I care about this coronavirus?

Imagine standing on the beach with your toes in the water. Someone comes up to you, tells you there is a big problem! He says there is a huge tidal wave on the way but he doesn't know exactly when it will arrive. All he can say is that he knows it will be soon. You aren't sure whether to believe him but your gut tells you he is telling the truth. You decide it will be best to move to higher ground quickly. As you start to run away from the beach, the man calls out again, "Hey, dummy, did you forget we are shipwrecked on a deserted isle? It is dangerous to go into the jungle!" You ponder his warning for a moment along with the previous one he gave you about the tidal wave. Uncertainty pinballs through your mind and you become paralyzed. Returning to the man, you say, "I don't know what to do here. You told me a tidal wave was coming, which I'm really not sure you know for certain, and then you told me it is dangerous to try to escape from it. Which one is more dangerous! Tell me!" The man stares out over the roaring ocean for a moment and then quietly replies, "The most significant danger you face in this moment is your paralysis. I have told you the dangers you face. I cannot give you probabilities. Use the best information you have available and act, NOW!".

First:

If you are in a town at least 100 miles from a large city, and have a population of less than 100,000...STAY PUT.
Stock up on 'dry meats' and 'salted meats', rice, canned goods, packaged staples. A couple of barrels of freshwater in the backyard. Another to collect rainwater.

Second:

Have a realistic bugout location. If you plan to bug out in the wilderness do realize your chance of dying is higher than the 3% mortality rate of the flu. If you show up at your uncle's farm or cousin's cabin with a car full of the supplies above and helpful tools, they will probably be happy to have you.

Third:
MOST IMPORTANT!!! WATCH THE GROWTH OF THE VIRUS IN YOUR LOCAL AREA!!!! CHECK LOCAL NEWS SOURCES HOURLY NOT DAILY!!!
If infection rate in your city in a week goes like this:
day 1: 2 infected
day 2: 5 infected
day 3: 12 infected
day 4: 28 infected
day 5: 67 infected
day 6: 224 infected
day 7: 234 infected

Then they are lying on day 7, it's hit 500 infections and quarantine/martial law is coming within 48 hours.

THEY WILL NOT TELL YOU ABOUT QUARANTINE IN ADVANCE.

They will put quarantine up, THEN announce quarantine.

Best barter goods:

Cash, booze, tobacco, bic lighters, propane hand torch, gas, propane bottle, batteries, food.

If SHTF for a lengthy period, cash becomes worthless.

big fing deal

fucking fearmongering asshole

Same here. I know most people will make their way to the country side, but how to stave off the thugs going through the neighborhoods, the pillaging? We've got protection though. I once saw a video that said to make your home look as if it had been pillaged, i.e. broke windows, stuff in the yard, etc. What are your plans?

Well, on that note to carry it further, you should be first in line to get it so you can get that top of the line health care.

If you get it with everyone else, critical care beds and help will be hard to find.

We can't unfuck this pussy. The genie is already out of the bottle. Best to just try and kick this flu's ass.

How do You use it ..? and is Panic Sex rational ..?

What makes you think you can't catch it again? The common cold is a coronavirus you can get those over and over and over again.

If you were to judge their motives by their results it's almost like they want this to spread.

We are only screening certain people coming into the country at certain airports.

Are they screening on the US - Mexico border or how about the US - Canadian border?

How about all the Cosco ships you see in American ports all the damn time.

Sending out faulty test kits, and not testing everyone with symptoms.

Releasing 200 from quarantine who were never tested.

Oh yeah, they're trying really fucking hard to stop this.

Dude there is no containment. They are letting you believe there is to qwell panic. This thing is already loose and despite with others may say it is past the point of testing in large numbers.
The first wave will probably get a test but subsequent waves will be self isolated or taken to camps al la Wuhan.
Do you seriously believe we have the resources to diagnose tens if not hundreds of thousands if it were the case?
Our ..and by our I mean North America is woefully underprepared for an event of this magnitude. I say that because we value human rights and are very politically correct. We could not shut down our cities like the Chinese whether ot be effective or not.

Just hearing this COVID has an R0 of 4-6 which is very infectious and has a lot of people behind the scenes very worried I can assure you.

This is going to be a case of survival of the fittest if the worst comes to pass.
However of the R nought holds at 4 in the West we are in for some very turbulent time.

We are living history.

You do realize that there are only a few forms of coronavirus. And the first wasn't discovered until the '60s. So you are just speaking out your ass and obviously don't know your fucking ass from a hole in the ground.

[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]

"Coronaviruses are named for the crown-like spikes on their surface. There are four main sub-groupings of coronaviruses, known as alpha, beta, gamma, and delta.

Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s. The seven coronaviruses that can infect people are:"

If you are asking someone else when you should bugout you are already too late.

Oh, a good old fashion Pox Party.

Hey Dumbass from your link

Common human coronaviruses

229E (alpha coronavirus)
NL63 (alpha coronavirus)
OC43 (beta coronavirus)
HKU1 (beta coronavirus)
Those are the common cold coronavirus

Before you post know what you're talking about before you prove that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.
Dipshit

Parents kids?
Also have read this virus creates a response from the immune system and sends it into overdrive. Having an over active immune system may be detrimental. Just speculation

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"But he acknowledged that on Sunday alone, in the final hours before the federal government’s quarantine rules took effect, some 5,000 American citizens flew back from China."

"Mr. Cuccinelli said the federal government was directing air carriers to prevent most people who have traveled in China over the past few weeks from boarding flights to the United States if they are not American citizens. “They won’t even be on the plane,” he said.

But he acknowledged that on Sunday alone, in the final hours before the federal government’s quarantine rules took effect, some 5,000 American citizens flew back from China."
[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

FIELD NOTE FROM DEEP IN THE WOODS WITH ONLY ONE NEARBY TOWN:

THE MILITARY CHOPPERS ALREADY HAVE THE QUARENTINE BOUNDARIES SET... DAILY NOW!

SO EVEN IF YOU RUN UP HERE, YOU'LL BE IN SONEONE ELSES QUARENTINE ... OR RATHER, LIVE TARGET!

GET THE POINT?

If your looking to avoid getting sick, may be too late. I know several who have a cold or flu, but they aren't being tested. Last weekend- One gal I know, a health conscious person, got sick while travelling in state and it hit her fast. They diagnosed pneumonia. This is in Boise Idaho. I think its here and has been for a while.

If your looking to bug out due to the civil unrest, quarantines set in, probably 2 weeks. Watch close, military movement (to help with quarantine), hospitals, state and local gov meeting schedules, if your friends with leo, ask them. Local govs will get a few days heads up. Ours is already putting an emergency action plan in place, but its not because of notification (at least what I was told)

I wouldn’t worry too much about regular looters and pillagers in this scenario. People are going to want to stay AWAY from others to avoid getting sick. If they are sick, they aren’t going to feel up for some mayhem.

Look at the videos out of China, the roads are empty in cities of millions of people, people are locking in and staying home. I would however not feel great in an apartment building, they are saying they think it is spreading in the waste pipes in buildings.

When I see shit like this, I hope the virus takes me the fuck out and quick.

Right now would be the time to go if you had to. They are not testing anyone that hasn't been to China or had contact with someone from China. But then again all that can change two minutes from now.

Yeah, I was wrong on that one, I'll admit it. A lot of reading says that those viruses cause cold-like symptoms. I did find where they cause the cold.

VERY GOOD THREAD!

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