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How many are dead from this strain in the US?
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Found the article I was looking for, been pounding my head for 3 days trying to remember the herb.
Natural human interleukin 1 receptor antagonist


Tinospora cordifolia protects against inflammation associated anemia by modulating inflammatory cytokines


[link to www.nature.com (secure)]

[link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)]

Effect of Tinospora cordifolia on the cytokine profile of angiogenesis-induced animals

[link to www.drvitaminsolutions.com (secure)]

[link to www.lifeextension.com (secure)]


Also Repairs damaged nervous tissues


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sooo ... just curious - has 001 flow the coop?
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Haven't seen him in a couple days. No idea.
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If they were real, the news regarding the enacting of several civil emergency plans and the increased preparedness levels of the military may mean that anyone in -001s situation would be under extremely increased scrutiny. Again, if they were real, I hope they just went dark and that they didn’t endure something more serious.
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Yeah, if they were legit, they were taking a huge risk, which is why I did not ask any questions. I won't encourage someone to break their NDA. That being said, it was a very interesting thread.
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Someone previously posted info about Vitamin C IV potentially being a viable treatment for Covid_19


Clinical trials underway exactly as mentioned here. We really have se brilliant minds here on GLP

Here's the link to clinical trials:

[link to clinicaltrials.gov (secure)]
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"We hypothize that Vitamin C infusion can help improve the prognosis of patients with SARI. Therefore, it is necessary to study the clinical efficacy and safety of vitamin C for the clinical management of SARI through randomized controlled trials during the current epidemic of SARI."


Of course, it's not KungFlu, but I had a successful trial of megadose Vit C treating my daughter's strep throat this past week. She complained of a sore throat Saturday morning and we treated it with 500mg of Vit C every hour over the course of the day and it disappeared by that night. My wife caught it and we're doing the same thing today. It started, for her, at about 3:00 this morning, and after two doses of 1000mg, she's already feeling better.
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I was just telling my daughter last night about how awesome vitamin C is, and how I always pump it in when I start getting sick - how it helps not only avoid getting sick, but actually fights illness.

My aunt always had a big bottle of those chewable tablets, and I swear that woman never got sick. My daughter has been getting sick a lot lately, so I thought about ordering some. This post seals the deal - I'm ordering a bottle now and am going to start taking it daily, and more importantly, have her start taking it.

Good info!

hf
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Make certain to get real Vitamin C...not Ascorbic Acid (the outter shell of VitC). The key to VitC is the bioavailable copper in the center...not the shell.

So, get the real whole food deal....not some lab made atrocity.
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Thanks for the tip. I've already ordered it, but can easily return it if it's not the real deal.

I saw the last post too about the military command prepping for a pandemic response. I just don't know what to think about all this. I go through phases - one day, I think we could be in real trouble, the next, I think it might be overblown. I guess I've been through so many false "dooms"...

Of course maybe it's like I said a while back - the seemingly slow pace at which it's approaching could belie the danger it might ultimately pose.
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Update: We are over worked — insufficient sleep again. Also, very hard to access this website, on the secure connection.

Guidelines are currently being issues to major academic teaching hospitals, community hospitals, and private practices.

Current guidelines that are being distributed;
- have written plans in place for screening and isolation,
- have an inventory of personal protective equipment (PPE),
- have local health department after-hours on-call number available (distributed),

For suspected cases;
- wear PPE that has a face mask with full shield (at the minimum!)

Treatment updates; baricitinib has been an excellent potential treatment choice for 19ncov/covid; it is one of the most likely candidates.

The full document for the care during pandemics is too long to post. Here are some highlights;

We suggest surge ventilators with flexible electrical power and oxygen requirements should be available to support patients with respiratory failure that can maintain function while either (1) sheltering in place or (2) evacuating to an outside facility. These ventilators should be portable, run on alternating current power with battery backup, and can run on low-flow oxygen without a high-pressure gas source. Surge ventilators may be of limited capability but should be able to ventilate and oxygenate patients with acute lung injury or ARDS as well as airflow obstruction. This requires the capability to deliver high minute ventilation, high flow, and high positive end-expiratory pressure. They should be safe (disconnect alarm) and relatively easy for staff to operate.

We suggest if a physiologic (nondisease-specific) outcome prediction score can be demonstrated to reliably predict mortality in a specified population upon screening for ICU admission, it is reasonable to use this to exclude admission for patients with a predicted mortality rate > 90%. Similarly, if a disease-specific score can be demonstrated to reliably predict mortality when used in the same manner for patients with the disease, we suggest it is reasonable to use this to exclude admissions for patients with a predicted mortality rate of > 90%.

We suggest highest priority critical care supplies and medications needed for routine day-to-day care, and crucial in mass casualty events, for which no substitutions are available be identified (eg, ventilator circuits, N95 masks, insulin, etc). Once identified, dual sourcing should be used for routine purchasing of these key supplies and medications to reduce the impact of a supply chain disruption.

We suggest developing defined disaster/pandemic plans for monitoring and leveraging popular social media (eg, Twitter, Facebook, others) during all actual or potential surge events, or unusual or large scale planned or unplanned events requiring cooperation, as both a means for gathering and transmitting information, as appropriate.

We suggest surge objectives should be consistent with individual hospital surge goals and include the capability to surge to:

• Up to 200% above maximal routine capacity based on the nature and severity of the disaster (contingency to the crisis)
• Up to the limit of the total number of ventilators available to coalition partners.
• Up to projected patient loads in a slow onset, slow evolving disaster.


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Thank you 001. It's good to hear that something may help. Will Lilly be able to scale up production fast enough?
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This is a form of what 001 said they are looking at

“ Treatment updates; baricitinib has been an excellent potential treatment choice for 19ncov/covid; it is one of the most likely candidates.”

How does Olumiant work?

Olumiant is a Janus kinase (JAK) inhibitor. JAK inhibitors help disrupt how cells respond to some cytokines. Cytokines are proteins that allow cells to communicate with each other, and excess cytokines may cause inflammation. In RA, joint inflammation may cause pain, swelling, and tenderness. It is not known which disrupted cytokines are most related to the therapeutic effects of Olumiant.

Olumiant

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This is a form of what 001 said they are looking at

“ Treatment updates; baricitinib has been an excellent potential treatment choice for 19ncov/covid; it is one of the most likely candidates.”

How does Olumiant work?

Olumiant is a Janus kinase (JAK) inhibitor. JAK inhibitors help disrupt how cells respond to some cytokines. Cytokines are proteins that allow cells to communicate with each other, and excess cytokines may cause inflammation. In RA, joint inflammation may cause pain, swelling, and tenderness. It is not known which disrupted cytokines are most related to the therapeutic effects of Olumiant.

Olumiant
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Janus ?

Time to revisit Jupiter ignition...
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If 001 is for real, he had to drop out. Too much attention on everyone right now. It's clear every country is trying to maintain calm while researching the ramifications which are wide...

I thank them for their expertise.
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I shared this in the big thread but will share here as well.
I have used life extension cytokine suppress in the past but it's been a while so I dont remember how much it helped. I got it from Amazon but here is a link to it on the life extension website.
[link to www.lifeextension.com (secure)]
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Update: We are over worked — insufficient sleep again. Also, very hard to access this website, on the secure connection.

Guidelines are currently being issues to major academic teaching hospitals, community hospitals, and private practices.

Current guidelines that are being distributed;
- have written plans in place for screening and isolation,
- have an inventory of personal protective equipment (PPE),
- have local health department after-hours on-call number available (distributed),

For suspected cases;
- wear PPE that has a face mask with full shield (at the minimum!)

Treatment updates; baricitinib has been an excellent potential treatment choice for 19ncov/covid; it is one of the most likely candidates.

The full document for the care during pandemics is too long to post. Here are some highlights;

We suggest surge ventilators with flexible electrical power and oxygen requirements should be available to support patients with respiratory failure that can maintain function while either (1) sheltering in place or (2) evacuating to an outside facility. These ventilators should be portable, run on alternating current power with battery backup, and can run on low-flow oxygen without a high-pressure gas source. Surge ventilators may be of limited capability but should be able to ventilate and oxygenate patients with acute lung injury or ARDS as well as airflow obstruction. This requires the capability to deliver high minute ventilation, high flow, and high positive end-expiratory pressure. They should be safe (disconnect alarm) and relatively easy for staff to operate.

We suggest if a physiologic (nondisease-specific) outcome prediction score can be demonstrated to reliably predict mortality in a specified population upon screening for ICU admission, it is reasonable to use this to exclude admission for patients with a predicted mortality rate > 90%. Similarly, if a disease-specific score can be demonstrated to reliably predict mortality when used in the same manner for patients with the disease, we suggest it is reasonable to use this to exclude admissions for patients with a predicted mortality rate of > 90%.

We suggest highest priority critical care supplies and medications needed for routine day-to-day care, and crucial in mass casualty events, for which no substitutions are available be identified (eg, ventilator circuits, N95 masks, insulin, etc). Once identified, dual sourcing should be used for routine purchasing of these key supplies and medications to reduce the impact of a supply chain disruption.

We suggest developing defined disaster/pandemic plans for monitoring and leveraging popular social media (eg, Twitter, Facebook, others) during all actual or potential surge events, or unusual or large scale planned or unplanned events requiring cooperation, as both a means for gathering and transmitting information, as appropriate.

We suggest surge objectives should be consistent with individual hospital surge goals and include the capability to surge to:

• Up to 200% above maximal routine capacity based on the nature and severity of the disaster (contingency to the crisis)
• Up to the limit of the total number of ventilators available to coalition partners.
• Up to projected patient loads in a slow onset, slow evolving disaster.


-001
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first time I have seen 001 post with no flag. Maybe not really 001???
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Maybe he or she is full of it, maybe not. Still, this thread has a lot of good info on it.
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FWIW the above guidelines are copy pasted from a paper published on 2014 in the Chest Journal. Selecting any part of the text posted by 001 and searching in Google will bring you the PDF in question.

I call BS. 001 is full of it
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He says right in his post that the full document about pandemic care is too long to post, implying that he's copying it from somewhere, so what's your point?

Go back and read the fist few posts on this thread - this is NOT the place to try to argue whether or not -001 is legit. This is the place for people who are interested to here what he has to say.

So bugger off already - thank you!

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We suggest if a physiologic (nondisease-specific) outcome prediction score can be demonstrated to reliably predict mortality in a specified population upon screening for ICU admission, it is reasonable to use this to exclude admission for patients with a predicted mortality rate > 90%. Similarly, if a disease-specific score can be demonstrated to reliably predict mortality when used in the same manner for patients with the disease, we suggest it is reasonable to use this to exclude admissions for patients with a predicted mortality rate of > 90%.
...

-001

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Hory shit. If you show up at ER sick, you may not make the cut.

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Haven't been following this thread closely have found -001's info really interesting.

-001 mentioned chloroquine as having some benefit.
Guessing Hydroxychloroquine is the same thing? I take that stuff everyday (generic for plaquenil.)
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How many are dead from this strain in the US?
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Truth is:

We don't know.
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Most sensible response I've gotten over all the virus threads I've posted on. People read into what they want as far as the propaganda pushed. I think the key to this is as always stay prepared for as many things as you can. We will never get full truth from ANY news sources, only what we are allowed to see. Trying to figure out what exactly this virus is doing with the misinfo mixed with some truths is the issue. Something all media has seemed to miss or just not say is that China basically shuts down manufacturing every year till March because of the new year. They notify customers 3 months ahead of time before the new year shutdown. This seems to be too much of a coincidence that the viral outbreak happens at this exact time. I'm not saying that the virus is not real, but a planned release for this would be optimal for population reduction. Also, there appears to be a corelation between the mandated vaccines China gives and this particular virus making it worse. It could be because of this there is not the mass spreading on a global scale. Although, I would hope people take into account how other countries and the US can and will use this fear to further promote their agenda.
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Some pertinent info to keep in mind for either flu or coronavirus

It’s best to know which hospital in your area is equipped to handle ICU, full ventilation for adults and children should it be needed





Accounting for nonrespondents, we estimate that there are 62,188 full-feature mechanical ventilators owned by US acute care hospitals.

Responding to the survey were 4305 (74.8%) hospitals, which accounted for 83.8% of US intensive care unit beds.

Of the 52,118 full-feature mechanical ventilators owned by respondent hospitals, 24,204 (46.4%) are pediatric/neonatal capable.

Accounting for nonrespondents, we estimate that there are 62,188 full-feature mechanical ventilators owned by US acute care hospitals.

The median number of full-feature mechanical ventilators per 100,000 population for individual states is 19.7 (interquartile ratio 17.2-23.1), ranging from 11.9 to 77.6.

The median number of pediatric-capable device full-feature mechanical ventilators per 100,000 population younger than 14 years old is 52.3 (interquartile ratio 43.1-63.9) and the range across states is 22.1 to 206.2.

In addition, respondent hospitals reported owning 82,755 ventilators other than full-feature mechanical ventilators; we estimate that there are 98,738 devices other than full-feature ventilators at all of the US acute care hospitals.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]



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How many are dead from this strain in the US?
 Quoting: MKPitBull


Truth is:

We don't know.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


Most sensible response I've gotten over all the virus threads I've posted on. People read into what they want as far as the propaganda pushed. I think the key to this is as always stay prepared for as many things as you can. We will never get full truth from ANY news sources, only what we are allowed to see. Trying to figure out what exactly this virus is doing with the misinfo mixed with some truths is the issue. Something all media has seemed to miss or just not say is that China basically shuts down manufacturing every year till March because of the new year. They notify customers 3 months ahead of time before the new year shutdown. This seems to be too much of a coincidence that the viral outbreak happens at this exact time. I'm not saying that the virus is not real, but a planned release for this would be optimal for population reduction. Also, there appears to be a corelation between the mandated vaccines China gives and this particular virus making it worse. It could be because of this there is not the mass spreading on a global scale. Although, I would hope people take into account how other countries and the US can and will use this fear to further promote their agenda.
Whether an actual threat or not.
 Quoting: MKPitBull


Where are you seeing that? All I've ever seen about China shutting down relative to New Years is they close everything down for a couple weeks prior to New Years. If this was normal, we wouldn't have factories in South Korea shutting down for lack of Chinese parts, or we would but it would be an every year affair and it's not.

Again, though, this is not a conspiracy thread. It is an intel thread. If you have sources that are telling you that it's a hoax, or a psyop to sell vaccines, or deliberate population reduction, by all means, but those are conspiracy theories and there's plenty of room on the site for another thread.
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How many are dead from this strain in the US?
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Truth is:

We don't know.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


Most sensible response I've gotten over all the virus threads I've posted on. People read into what they want as far as the propaganda pushed. I think the key to this is as always stay prepared for as many things as you can. We will never get full truth from ANY news sources, only what we are allowed to see. Trying to figure out what exactly this virus is doing with the misinfo mixed with some truths is the issue. Something all media has seemed to miss or just not say is that China basically shuts down manufacturing every year till March because of the new year. They notify customers 3 months ahead of time before the new year shutdown. This seems to be too much of a coincidence that the viral outbreak happens at this exact time. I'm not saying that the virus is not real, but a planned release for this would be optimal for population reduction. Also, there appears to be a corelation between the mandated vaccines China gives and this particular virus making it worse. It could be because of this there is not the mass spreading on a global scale. Although, I would hope people take into account how other countries and the US can and will use this fear to further promote their agenda.
Whether an actual threat or not.
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Where are you seeing that? All I've ever seen about China shutting down relative to New Years is they close everything down for a couple weeks prior to New Years. If this was normal, we wouldn't have factories in South Korea shutting down for lack of Chinese parts, or we would but it would be an every year affair and it's not.

Again, though, this is not a conspiracy thread. It is an intel thread. If you have sources that are telling you that it's a hoax, or a psyop to sell vaccines, or deliberate population reduction, by all means, but those are conspiracy theories and there's plenty of room on the site for another thread.
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I posted a link in another thread as far as yearly shutdowns, I'll look for it.

[link to www.thesourcingblog.com]

This is an older blog post, but does go into explaining the hows and why's of the new year scheduling off. Most of what is being promoted on media is two weeks. It's not actually that.

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Truth is:

We don't know.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


Most sensible response I've gotten over all the virus threads I've posted on. People read into what they want as far as the propaganda pushed. I think the key to this is as always stay prepared for as many things as you can. We will never get full truth from ANY news sources, only what we are allowed to see. Trying to figure out what exactly this virus is doing with the misinfo mixed with some truths is the issue. Something all media has seemed to miss or just not say is that China basically shuts down manufacturing every year till March because of the new year. They notify customers 3 months ahead of time before the new year shutdown. This seems to be too much of a coincidence that the viral outbreak happens at this exact time. I'm not saying that the virus is not real, but a planned release for this would be optimal for population reduction. Also, there appears to be a corelation between the mandated vaccines China gives and this particular virus making it worse. It could be because of this there is not the mass spreading on a global scale. Although, I would hope people take into account how other countries and the US can and will use this fear to further promote their agenda.
Whether an actual threat or not.
 Quoting: MKPitBull


Where are you seeing that? All I've ever seen about China shutting down relative to New Years is they close everything down for a couple weeks prior to New Years. If this was normal, we wouldn't have factories in South Korea shutting down for lack of Chinese parts, or we would but it would be an every year affair and it's not.

Again, though, this is not a conspiracy thread. It is an intel thread. If you have sources that are telling you that it's a hoax, or a psyop to sell vaccines, or deliberate population reduction, by all means, but those are conspiracy theories and there's plenty of room on the site for another thread.
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I posted a link in another thread as far as yearly shutdowns, I'll look for it.
 Quoting: MKPitBull


Is this it?

[link to www.chinaimportal.com (secure)]
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Good comments being removed from this thread, we can’t have an intellectual debate here? This is serious business we’re discussing.

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Good comments being removed from this thread, we can’t have an intellectual debate here? This is serious business we’re discussing.

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You mean the ones in direct violation of the thread rules enumerated in the original post? because those are the only posts I have removed. If you don't like it, you are free to complain about it elsewhere, but I made it very clear that we're not doing that here. I have my doubts as well, but that's the nature of a site like this. As I said, we can't verify anyone's identity here. Having questions about the veracity of someone's statements is implied and doesn't need to be talked about repeatedly.

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Most sensible response I've gotten over all the virus threads I've posted on. People read into what they want as far as the propaganda pushed. I think the key to this is as always stay prepared for as many things as you can. We will never get full truth from ANY news sources, only what we are allowed to see. Trying to figure out what exactly this virus is doing with the misinfo mixed with some truths is the issue. Something all media has seemed to miss or just not say is that China basically shuts down manufacturing every year till March because of the new year. They notify customers 3 months ahead of time before the new year shutdown. This seems to be too much of a coincidence that the viral outbreak happens at this exact time. I'm not saying that the virus is not real, but a planned release for this would be optimal for population reduction. Also, there appears to be a corelation between the mandated vaccines China gives and this particular virus making it worse. It could be because of this there is not the mass spreading on a global scale. Although, I would hope people take into account how other countries and the US can and will use this fear to further promote their agenda.
Whether an actual threat or not.
 Quoting: MKPitBull


Where are you seeing that? All I've ever seen about China shutting down relative to New Years is they close everything down for a couple weeks prior to New Years. If this was normal, we wouldn't have factories in South Korea shutting down for lack of Chinese parts, or we would but it would be an every year affair and it's not.

Again, though, this is not a conspiracy thread. It is an intel thread. If you have sources that are telling you that it's a hoax, or a psyop to sell vaccines, or deliberate population reduction, by all means, but those are conspiracy theories and there's plenty of room on the site for another thread.
 Quoting: Deplorable Revbo™


I posted a link in another thread as far as yearly shutdowns, I'll look for it.
 Quoting: MKPitBull


Is this it?

[link to www.chinaimportal.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Deplorable Revbo™

Not the same one, but similar and newer.
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Truth is:

We don't know.
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Most sensible response I've gotten over all the virus threads I've posted on. People read into what they want as far as the propaganda pushed. I think the key to this is as always stay prepared for as many things as you can. We will never get full truth from ANY news sources, only what we are allowed to see. Trying to figure out what exactly this virus is doing with the misinfo mixed with some truths is the issue. Something all media has seemed to miss or just not say is that China basically shuts down manufacturing every year till March because of the new year. They notify customers 3 months ahead of time before the new year shutdown. This seems to be too much of a coincidence that the viral outbreak happens at this exact time. I'm not saying that the virus is not real, but a planned release for this would be optimal for population reduction. Also, there appears to be a corelation between the mandated vaccines China gives and this particular virus making it worse. It could be because of this there is not the mass spreading on a global scale. Although, I would hope people take into account how other countries and the US can and will use this fear to further promote their agenda.
Whether an actual threat or not.
 Quoting: MKPitBull


Where are you seeing that? All I've ever seen about China shutting down relative to New Years is they close everything down for a couple weeks prior to New Years. If this was normal, we wouldn't have factories in South Korea shutting down for lack of Chinese parts, or we would but it would be an every year affair and it's not.

Again, though, this is not a conspiracy thread. It is an intel thread. If you have sources that are telling you that it's a hoax, or a psyop to sell vaccines, or deliberate population reduction, by all means, but those are conspiracy theories and there's plenty of room on the site for another thread.
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I posted a link in another thread as far as yearly shutdowns, I'll look for it.

[link to www.thesourcingblog.com]

This is an older blog post, but does go into explaining the hows and why's of the new year scheduling off. Most of what is being promoted on media is two weeks. It's not actually that.
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YES, there are cases they do shut down for a few weeks during the NY However, this time they canceled events.
Do I know how often that occurs, nope but NY is a big deal for China Spring Festival so I would gander the canceling events should give one pause.
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Most sensible response I've gotten over all the virus threads I've posted on. People read into what they want as far as the propaganda pushed. I think the key to this is as always stay prepared for as many things as you can. We will never get full truth from ANY news sources, only what we are allowed to see. Trying to figure out what exactly this virus is doing with the misinfo mixed with some truths is the issue. Something all media has seemed to miss or just not say is that China basically shuts down manufacturing every year till March because of the new year. They notify customers 3 months ahead of time before the new year shutdown. This seems to be too much of a coincidence that the viral outbreak happens at this exact time. I'm not saying that the virus is not real, but a planned release for this would be optimal for population reduction. Also, there appears to be a corelation between the mandated vaccines China gives and this particular virus making it worse. It could be because of this there is not the mass spreading on a global scale. Although, I would hope people take into account how other countries and the US can and will use this fear to further promote their agenda.
Whether an actual threat or not.
 Quoting: MKPitBull


Where are you seeing that? All I've ever seen about China shutting down relative to New Years is they close everything down for a couple weeks prior to New Years. If this was normal, we wouldn't have factories in South Korea shutting down for lack of Chinese parts, or we would but it would be an every year affair and it's not.

Again, though, this is not a conspiracy thread. It is an intel thread. If you have sources that are telling you that it's a hoax, or a psyop to sell vaccines, or deliberate population reduction, by all means, but those are conspiracy theories and there's plenty of room on the site for another thread.
 Quoting: Deplorable Revbo™


I posted a link in another thread as far as yearly shutdowns, I'll look for it.

[link to www.thesourcingblog.com]

This is an older blog post, but does go into explaining the hows and why's of the new year scheduling off. Most of what is being promoted on media is two weeks. It's not actually that.
 Quoting: MKPitBull


YES, there are cases they do shut down for a few weeks during the NY However, this time they canceled events.
Do I know how often that occurs, nope but NY is a big deal for China Spring Festival so I would gander the canceling events should give one pause.
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Oh I agree on that, but I'll leave this thread. 001 intel only. I've bounced around on so many virus threads I forgot the rules of this one.
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Good comments being removed from this thread, we can’t have an intellectual debate here? This is serious business we’re discussing.

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You mean the ones in direct violation of the thread rules enumerated in the original post? because those are the only posts I have removed. If you don't like it, you are free to complain about it elsewhere, but I made it very clear that we're not doing that here. I have my doubts as well, but that's the nature of a site like this. As I said, we can't verify anyone's identity here. Having questions about the veracity of someone's statements is implied and doesn't need to be talked about repeatedly.
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Thank you for your reply. I promise my intentions are good, fwiw. This is important stuff, but the comments had well founded concerns based on the recent post that we’re all assuming is 001, and needs explanation. That’s all.

Otherwise we’re not having an honest debate but a controlled narrative, ya know?
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Local info:

21 people was asked to put on face masks and leave a hospital department where they was waiting for appointments after a patient started showing symptoms of coronovirus. All was told to go home and isolate and will be called within 48hrs if the patient is tests positive.

this happened today (12.2.) at broomfield hospital in essex UK

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Local info:

21 people was asked to put on face masks and leave a hospital department where they was waiting for appointments after a patient started showing symptoms of coronovirus. All was told to go home and isolate and will be called within 48hrs if the patient is tests positive.

this happened today (12.2.) at broomfield hospital in essex UK

siren2siren2
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Thanks. I've seen several reports similar. The UK seems to be closing off medical centers to anyone with a fever.
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21 people was asked to put on face masks and leave a hospital department where they was waiting for appointments after a patient started showing symptoms of coronovirus. All was told to go home and isolate and will be called within 48hrs if the patient is tests positive.

this happened today (12.2.) at broomfield hospital in essex UK

siren2siren2
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Thanks. I've seen several reports similar. The UK seems to be closing off medical centers to anyone with a fever.
 Quoting: Deplorable Revbo™


If you have flu like symptoms, cough, fever, shortness of breath or sore throat, please self-isolate, do not go to a GP surgery or hospital and call NHS 111

This was what the e.mail said.

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