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Turkey and the us is to blame.

These migrants had homes in Syria, lebanon, Iraq before we founded isis
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The octopus is huge, but, God is greater.
Without Jesus life is senseless.
We are all scared but He is supporting us all.
Did you know that the serpants came to a Mother Mary icon in Greece recently? Even the serpants come and pray and show their respect. We are NOT ALONE!

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French Rafales sent to Cyprus (against Erdogan)?

The "in-Cyprus" site, linked to the daily Phileleftheros, claims that the two Rafales took part in a one-day exercise that mobilized the Cypriot army and four Israeli air force helicopters. "French planes are to remain at the Andreas Papandreou military base in Paphos for a while as they will conduct patrols in the Eastern Mediterranean region," he said, relying on "knowledgeable sources.

I have no ideea about the outcome of today diplomatic activities of Greece.
Did they get anything from nato and from eu?
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Oruc Reis Greece: Pentagon Defense Council Meets - Ship Changed [vids]
11 August 2020

A meeting of the Defense Council is underway at the Pentagon, chaired by National Defense Minister Nikolaos Panagiotopoulos, as it became known from ministry sources, against the background of Oruc Reis's moves on the Greek continental shelf. The meeting is attended by the Deputy Minister, Alkiviadis Stefanis and the military leadership as a whole. According to information, the convening of the Defense Council is taking place in order to assess the situation in the wider region, to evaluate the available information, to examine issues of a regular nature and to decide on further actions to address the Turkish challenges.

Meanwhile, according to Mega, just eight nautical miles before the Turkish research vessel reached the border of the illegally occupied area from Ankara, the Oruc Reis, its escort and the ensuing warships changed course. The Turkish ships appear to be heading south, with military analysts speculating that this may be the beginning of an eastward turn. But such a thing remains to be seen in the coming hours. The Greek navy continues to monitor closely and send him messages warning him that it is inside the Greek continental shelf and calling on him to leave it. In fact, this change of course can be seen on the website Marinetraffic.com.
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I THINK WE WILL HAVE NO WW3 THIS AUTUMN!!!

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The snakes of the Virgin Mary have made their annual appearance again in a church on the island of Kefalonia, Newsbreakgr reported.

The snakes appeared later than usual, as they are usually seen on the Feast of the Transfiguration of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

According to the media outlet, one snake was found at the Church of Panagia Lagouvarda in the village of Markopoulo. The other was found a little while later by local residents. Immediately the village bells rang joyfully.


The small snakes which are friendly to people have a characteristic soft skin and the shape of a cross adorning their backs.

Thousands of faithful pilgrims usually flock to the villages every year to observe the miracle snakes of Panagia that seem to appear from out of nowhere and disappear again after the feast of the Dormition.

The snakes crawl throughout the churches and around the icons of Our Most Holy Lady, the Theotokos and Ever-Virgin Mary.

The Church of Panagia Lagouvarda or Panagia Fidousa is the most well-known church of Kefalonia, built on the ruins of an old monastery.

According to history, the snakes of the Virgin Mary have failed to appear twice. The first time in 1940, shortly before the outbreak of World War II and the second time in August 1953, when Kefalonia suffered a tremendously destructive earthquake. Thus, it is believed to be ominous if the snakes do not appear.

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I have to reach 667 message.
What to tell you?
A Muslim preacher died in the Church of the Holy Wisdom in Constantinople.
We, the Christians are not alone.
God always prevails even if we forget about Him.
I am a sinner, the biggest I know.
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The Defense Council meets under N. Panagiotopoulos - Change of course for Oruc Reis

A meeting of the Defense Council (SAM) is currently underway, chaired by the Minister of National Defense Nikolaos Panagiotopoulos, as it became known from sources in the ministry. The meeting is attended by Deputy Minister Alkiviadis Stefanis and the military leadership as a whole.

According to information, the convening of the Defense Council is taking place in order to assess the situation in the wider region, to evaluate the available information, to examine issues of a regular nature and to decide on further actions to address the Turkish challenges.

Meanwhile, the Turkish research vessel Oruc Reis and the ships that accompany it seem to have changed course, however they remain within the Greek mainland, according to information.

According to the latest data from marinetraffic.com, the Turkish research vessel seems to have made a small turn, however it is unknown where it is headed.

For the time being, it is moving within the coordinates set through the illegal Turkish Navtex.

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We may all go to sleep. All is well thank God!
The Greek general Floros was right yesterday when he said all will be well.
See? God loves us all!
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Excavation team discovers 1,600-year-old octagonal church in central Turkey

An excavation team discovered a 1600-year-old church in central Turkey´s Niğde province, state-run Anadolu news agency reported on Sunday.
The octagonal church containing coins believed to be from the 4th century, present a rarity for Anatolia, it said, citing Osman Doğanay, head of the excavation team and instructor at Aksaray University’s department of archaeology.
“We think that the coins belong to the beginning of the 4th century AD. Thus, we have a proof of the construction date of the city walls and aqueducts,” Doğanay said.
Excavations in the ancient city of in Tyana were started by an Italian team in 2001, Doğanay said, noting the significance of the octagonal church.

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Greece will not imprison Turkey via islands, Erdoğan vows as East Med tensions rise – live blog

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Oruc Reis: Remains on the Greek mainland today -
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Oruc Reis is marching slow at 4 knots without trespassing 28 meridian

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The stories of drilling, where a research ship is sent with a massive naval escort, may be more about distracting from the economic crisis than actually fighting Greece at sea. Ankara’s track record shows that it usually uses Syrian rebels to fight for it in Libya and Syria and only conducts military campaigns against those who can’t shoot back, such as Kurds in northern Iraq, when it comes up against an Egyptian red line in Libya or Russia in Syria, it generally stops. It’s unclear where that red line may be in the Mediterranean. Ankara is trying to find out.

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While the Turkish seismic research ship Oruc Reis is moving northeast atop the Greek continental shelf, accompanied by Naval vessels from Turkey, Ankara continues to issue provocative statements.

The oil and gas exploration ship is staying within the limits of its illegally-issued NAVTEX; meanwhile the movements of all the Turkish ships are being closely monitored by Greek Navy vessels and other units of the Greek Armed Forces.

Turkish Energy Minister Fatih Donmez wrote on Twitter: “Oruc Reis scans our seas. By August 23, a total of 1,750 kilometers of seismic cable will be submerged in the Mediterranean for 2D seismic research.”

According to Turkey’s official Anadolu News Agency, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Tuesday that he would not accept Greece’s attempts to “imprison” Turkey on its shores, disputing Greece’s maritime territory around the islands of Rhodes and Kastellorizo.

Erdogan further declared that Turkey “is a vast country and we will not consent to an attempt to imprison us on our shores over several square kilometers of islands.”

Greek FM to meet with US Secretary of State and attend EU emergency meeting

Greek Foreign Minister Nikos Dendias will have an emergency meeting with US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in Vienna on Friday.

According to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the two officials will discuss the tensions generated in the Eastern Mediterranean in light of Turkey’s most recent provocative acts.

Additionally, the Council of Foreign Ministers of the European Union will convene by teleconference on Friday at Greece’s request.

Israel supports Greek rights in the Aegean

Israel is closely monitoring developments in the eastern Mediterranean, according to a statement issued by the Israeli Embassy in Greece on Wednesday.

“Israel is closely following as tension rises in the East Mediterranean. Israel expresses its full support and solidarity with Greece in its maritime zones and its right to delimit its EEZ,” the announcement stated.
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Libya’s Haftar warns he will sink any Turkish ship

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Ex-defense chief admits Greece left alone in MediterraneanA former Greek defense minister has said in an interview that Athens would likely remain alone amid tension in the Eastern Mediterranean after Turkey announced it would continue seismic research and surveying with its drillship.

"NO COUNTRY WANTS TO BREAK RELATIONS WITH TURKEY"

Speaking to Greek Mega TV, Evangelos Apostolakis said the latest developments in the region were "extremely serious and critical."

Underlining that -- with pressure from the EU and US weak -- no country wanted to break relations or engage in combat with Turkey for Greece, Apostolakis said Ankara would remain in the region until its demands were met.


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Germany and nato are openly against Greece, while France doesn't do more.
Egypt is quiet too.
Libya is threatening turkey from a distance.
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The Cypriot media announced the arrival of two French Rafale fighters, in addition to a C-130H support plane, to the island of Cyprus, in what they said was a French message addressed to Turkey.

The “Defense-Point.Gr” news portal, which specializes in military affairs in Greek, said that France, by sending the three military aircraft, sent a clear message to Turkey.

It reported that the two French fighter and support aircraft landed yesterday afternoon at the Andreas Papandreou Air Base in the Paphos region and will remain on the island for several days, within the framework of the military agreement between France and Cyprus, which was activated recently, and will carry out flights over the island.

In 2017, France and Cyprus signed a joint defense agreement, which was activated early this month.

The same story stated that it is not yet known whether the French aircraft will conduct training exercises with the Cypriot National Guard, indicating that this issue will become clear in the coming days.

This defense website considered that the process of sending French warplanes to Cyprus “is tangible evidence of France’s policy determination to strengthen the military and political presence of Paris in the eastern Mediterranean, in the face of each party standing against the rights of the Republic of Cyprus, and thus European Union rights. ”

The mission of the two French fighter jets was also described as the first evidence of the French military determination to defend the rights of the European Union and to implement the commitments made to Cyprus.

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The Oruc Reis wanders aimlessly in the Eastern Mediterranean and eventually returns to its base. Turkey is renewing the appointment for a future return of the research vessel to action. It is supposed that the way of diplomacy is now being opened to prevent a military confrontation and to launch a gradual solution to the problem of delimitation of maritime zones in the Eastern Mediterranean.

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The most interesting report from the Turkish side is that of Erdogan, on the call for an international conference of the Eastern Mediterranean countries, in order to find a "commonly accepted formula that will protect the rights of all".

Logic would theoretically dictate that if Turkey were genuinely interested in an agreed and peaceful settlement of the problems, it would start right there and not choose the path of show of force.

Unless, by their behavior, the Turks believe that they will intimidate countries such as Israel, Egypt and Greece, in order to find a way out that is compatible with Turkish aspirations.

Just yesterday, the Jerusalem Post published an analysis article containing an extremely sharp report on Turkey: Erdogan may be assigned to the Turkish Armed Forces almost every month "to keep them busy", but the targets are chosen such that they cannot be seriously counterattacked;

The question then turns to whether Turkey's current stance is a product of its strength, or an attempt to cover up its weakness, as there are many things wrong with the neighboring country in the current period. If this is the case, then Erdogan's call for a summit of the Eastern Mediterranean countries is the way out of his impasse.

A way out that should have specific characteristics. The most important thing is to raise the issue of "fair distribution", which in the Turkish perception does not include international law! Unless the other countries are willing to accept the Turkish "interpretation" of international law. However, given that such a meeting will by definition involve the risk for Turkey to hear from other countries the Law of the Sea and not the arbitrary Turkish interpretation.

It should also be noted that if a dispute arises, there is an international mechanism for clarifying what international law means and what it does not mean. With these data, the Turkish proposal to hold a summit of the Eastern Mediterranean countries begins to look even more like the sought-out way out of the impasse, which Erdogan has reached because of his policy.

Another issue is that all other countries in the region maintain diplomatic relations and good cooperation with the Republic of Cyprus. They are not willing to consent to her exclusion from the summit because the Turks do not recognize her. Would the Turks violate this "principle"? Probably not.

In fact, because they want to involve Germany, probably in an attempt to derail a similar French intention (summit of the Mediterranean countries), another question arises: By what logic could any country accept such a Turkish demand, as Germany in this case and recognizes the Republic of Cyprus and presides over this semester of the EU, of which the Republic of Cyprus is a member!

Turkey's economic problems are very big and deteriorating and with the international behavior shown by Erdogan's country, it obviously does not contribute to stopping and dealing with them. And this argument reinforces the reasoning that Turkey is looking for a good way out of the impasse that has come at its own risk. A deadlock which is certainly exacerbated by the active stance of the Greek Armed Forces.

What is needed for Athens, however, is to consider whether it has an interest in facilitating Turkey, or should it try to lead it deeper into the impasse it has created. It would do so not because it wants to destroy it, but to increase the cost of exploiting the practice of military coercion. In addition to exposing Turkish weakness to world public opinion.

However, the Greek side, which rightly seeks diplomatic support from partners and allies, could add to its reasoning that a qualitatively differentiated military stance would strengthen the international community's incentive to intervene an hour earlier. Because the point is not to achieve de-escalation now to get back to the same after a few days, weeks, or months.

In analyzes for the region, but also internationally, it is commonplace that "everything has changed". We should, therefore, seek to add the "Greek parameter" to the changes. Because the only constant in the equation of the region is the self-proclaimed domestically as a "consistently peaceful" Greek policy towards the Turkish revisionism.

We should seek it not because the peaceful policy is wrong, but because the way it is perceived by the recipients has nothing to do with what Greece explains and means. As a result, this rhetoric ends up hurting the Greek deterrent credibility and in general the impression of the other actors on how many concessions the Greek side is willing to accept.

Zacharias V. Michas is Director of Studies at the Institute for Security and Defense Analysis (IAAA / ISDA)

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The only people you can NEVER deal with are the turks.
They are not intelligent neither civilized.
The Russians, the Americans, the Brits, the Germans are all understanding but the turks, the tatarians, never.
My guess is turkey will never stop the aggression until they will be completely wiped off from the map.
They will push for obtaining the disaster, if not this year, the next five to ten.
The eu will vanish if Greece will be destroyed by the turks, USA will become history pretty soon having the leadership they have, tolerating the soroshist establishment.

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Pro-Assad forces shelling targeted Turkish army convoy near Atareb, injuries reported, but, the Turkish officials denied military convoy attack claim near Atarib.

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So when Turkey attacks Syria and Kurds, it is OK, but when Syria strikes back, it is not OK? What does turkey do in Syria in first place? NATO to intervene? No way! NATO is not created to help a fundamentalist aggressor like Erdogan to gain territiry. And if Erdogan dares to attack Greece, after his intervention in Lybia that saw him on collision course with France, let remember that France is still a nuclear power with special interests in the region. So it is not Turkey/NATO versus Syria/Russia. It is a fundamentalist dictator who wants to revive the Ottoman empire.
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Turkey and the us is to blame.

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ISIS was founded by Islam. Stop being a wuss and bending over for people who want to chop you into pieces as commanded by their book of Qurayshi demonology.
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The only people you can NEVER deal with are the turks.
They are not intelligent neither civilized.
The Russians, the Americans, the Brits, the Germans are all understanding but the turks, the tatarians, never.
My guess is turkey will never stop the aggression until they will be completely wiped off the map.
They will push for obtaining the disaster, if not this year, the next five to ten.
The eu will vanish if Greece will be destroyed by the turks, USA will become history pretty soon having the leadership they have, tolerating the soroshist establishment.
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Sadly the Greek establishment AND clergy have a long history of siding with various Islamic groups. The days of Greek glory are long gone. They behave like the Maronites in Lebanon. Switching sides from one day to the next, riding on the memories of their ancient forefathers.


And no, Turkey will never stop. Say a Turk wants to take over the world outside of Turkey and they will berate you as a racist. Say it as Turk in Turkey and they will praise you and agree. Something to do with a dream of a Sultan about a tree spreading its roots over the planet. Turkism is colonialism.
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The only people you can NEVER deal with are the turks.
They are not intelligent neither civilized.
The Russians, the Americans, the Brits, the Germans are all understanding but the turks, the tatarians, never.
My guess is turkey will never stop the aggression until they will be completely wiped off the map.
They will push for obtaining the disaster, if not this year, the next five to ten.
The eu will vanish if Greece will be destroyed by the turks, USA will become history pretty soon having the leadership they have, tolerating the soroshist establishment.
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Sadly the Greek establishment AND clergy have a long history of siding with various Islamic groups. The days of Greek glory are long gone. They behave like the Maronites in Lebanon. Switching sides from one day to the next, riding on the memories of their ancient forefathers.


And no, Turkey will never stop. Say a Turk wants to take over the world outside of Turkey and they will berate you as a racist. Say it as Turk in Turkey and they will praise you and agree. Something to do with a dream of a Sultan about a tree spreading its roots over the planet. Turkism is colonialism.
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No human, or, if you prefer more, demonic form of power is eternal. Turkey will eat their own medicines one day. The only problem is, that day is not today, nor tomorrow or this year. They will help the soroshists to blacken almost the entire continent of Europe and they will hold the Maghreb. When their job will be done, their time to be cancelled will come too in a very rude manner. Call it epic
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This actor of the satanic cult, (temporarily running the world), has ZERO SHAME IN LYING AND DECEIVING HIS OWN PEOPLE.
What a mess!
Look at his face trying to act at his best.
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08/12/2020 03:41 PM
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Greek-Turkish: Collision of YAVUZ with LIMNOS (F451), will we have a vertical escalation?Unfortunately, the worst escalation scenarios have become a reality in Greek-Turkish. A while ago, from very reliable sources, it emerged that the information circulating since noon, which was not mentioned by the DP for obvious reasons and concerns a collision between a Greek and a Turkish frigate, has substance. They concern the Turkish YAVUZ (F241 MEKO 200 TN Track I) and the Greek "LIMNOS" (F451). As a result, the possibility of further escalation is visible.

According to the existing information that is transmitted with every reservation, not regarding the incident but about the exact incidents, the Turkish ship tried to inject a Greek ship, resulting in the reaction of the Greek frigate that retaliated.

The same information states that the Turkish ship has suffered serious damage. The possibility that "the shaft is broken" is typically mentioned as the DP was typically informed and we transfer it accurately.



It is worth noting the following: The first is the responsible attitude of the Navy that has diligently avoided confirming or denying anything in the repeated journalistic harassment in an attempt to clarify the rumors that were circulating.

The second is that on the basis of this incident, which the DP, due to the reliability of the sources, considers to be confirmed until the possible different official position of the responsible military and political authorities of the country, must have played a decisive role in the decision of Megaro Maximos to The Prime Minister, Kyriakos Mitsotakis, makes a televised speech on the Greek-Turkish crisis.

The crisis management staff realized that the Turks' intentions would not be restrained unless there was a tough military response. Based on this and the firm stance on exhausting all margins to avoid military engagement with Turkey, it was decided to give one last message to all concerned.

The message is that the time for a dynamic military response in Turkey is approaching very dangerously. Because there is no other way, when geography has condemned you to live with the worst possible neighbor

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Mitsotakis: No challenge unanswered, we will prove it if necessary

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The next few days will be dangerous for confict or an "accident". August 15 is a national holiday here and has a significant symbolism both religious and patriotic.
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Friday will be too late.
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Mitsotakis: No challenge unanswered, we will prove it if necessary

 Quoting: Meowy63


The next few days will be dangerous for confict or an "accident". August 15 is a national holiday here and has a significant symbolism both religious and patriotic.
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We are Orthodox baptised. I want to go to the Church, but the pigs ask us to wear masks. I will see what I can do
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Mitsotakis: No challenge unanswered, we will prove it if necessary

 Quoting: Meowy63


The next few days will be dangerous for confict or an "accident". August 15 is a national holiday here and has a significant symbolism both religious and patriotic.
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 Quoting: Ostria1


We are Orthodox baptised. I want to go to the Church, but the pigs ask us to wear masks. I will see what I can do
 Quoting: Meowy63


Wear your mask and go, keep the distances and everything will be fine
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