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BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.

 
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BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
The Senate approved a bipartisan measure Thursday aimed at limiting President Donald Trump’s authority to launch military operations against Iran, with eight Republicans joining Democrats in a post-impeachment bid to constrain the White House.

The rebuke was the Senate’s first major vote since acquitting Trump on impeachment charges last week. Trump is expected to veto the war powers resolution if it reaches his desk, warning that if his “hands were tied, Iran would have a field day.’”

The measure, authored by Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., says Trump must win approval from Congress before engaging in further military action against Iran. Kaine and other supporters said the resolution, which passed 55-45, was not about Trump or even the presidency, but instead was an important reassertion of congressional power to declare war.

While Trump and other presidents “must always have the ability to defend the United States from imminent attack, the executive power to initiate war stops there,″ Kaine said. “An offensive war requires a congressional debate and vote.″

The Senate vote continues a pattern in which Republican senators have shown a willingness to challenge Trump on foreign policy, a sharp departure from their strong support during impeachment and on domestic matters. Congress moved to impose restrictions on U.S. involvement with the Saudi-led war in Yemen last year after U.S.-based journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed in a gruesome murder at Saudi Arabia’s consulate in Turkey.

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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
Here are the #walkaway GOP senators who joined Democrats in the bipartisan vote:

Todd Young

Mike Lee

Lisa Murkowski

Susan Collins

Rand Paul

Bill Cassidy

Jerry Moran

Lamar Alexander
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
They actually think he will sign away his power.
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
The Senate approved a bipartisan measure Thursday aimed at limiting President Donald Trump’s authority to launch military operations against Iran, with eight Republicans joining Democrats in a post-impeachment bid to constrain the White House.

The rebuke was the Senate’s first major vote since acquitting Trump on impeachment charges last week. Trump is expected to veto the war powers resolution if it reaches his desk, warning that if his “hands were tied, Iran would have a field day.’”

The measure, authored by Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., says Trump must win approval from Congress before engaging in further military action against Iran. Kaine and other supporters said the resolution, which passed 55-45, was not about Trump or even the presidency, but instead was an important reassertion of congressional power to declare war.

While Trump and other presidents “must always have the ability to defend the United States from imminent attack, the executive power to initiate war stops there,″ Kaine said. “An offensive war requires a congressional debate and vote.″

The Senate vote continues a pattern in which Republican senators have shown a willingness to challenge Trump on foreign policy, a sharp departure from their strong support during impeachment and on domestic matters. Congress moved to impose restrictions on U.S. involvement with the Saudi-led war in Yemen last year after U.S.-based journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed in a gruesome murder at Saudi Arabia’s consulate in Turkey.

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he has the god damn nuke codes in his bed room FUCK CONGRESS!
Anyone who challenges their control is deemed a sexist, a racist, a xenophobe and morally deformed , they will attack you they will slander you, they will seek to destroy your career and your family, they will seek to destroy everything about you ,including your reputation they will lie lie lie, they will do whatever is necessary!
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
Why just Iran?
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
The Senate approved a bipartisan measure Thursday aimed at limiting President Donald Trump’s authority to launch military operations against Iran, with eight Republicans joining Democrats in a post-impeachment bid to constrain the White House.

The rebuke was the Senate’s first major vote since acquitting Trump on impeachment charges last week. Trump is expected to veto the war powers resolution if it reaches his desk, warning that if his “hands were tied, Iran would have a field day.’”

The measure, authored by Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., says Trump must win approval from Congress before engaging in further military action against Iran. Kaine and other supporters said the resolution, which passed 55-45, was not about Trump or even the presidency, but instead was an important reassertion of congressional power to declare war.

While Trump and other presidents “must always have the ability to defend the United States from imminent attack, the executive power to initiate war stops there,″ Kaine said. “An offensive war requires a congressional debate and vote.″

The Senate vote continues a pattern in which Republican senators have shown a willingness to challenge Trump on foreign policy, a sharp departure from their strong support during impeachment and on domestic matters. Congress moved to impose restrictions on U.S. involvement with the Saudi-led war in Yemen last year after U.S.-based journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed in a gruesome murder at Saudi Arabia’s consulate in Turkey.

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he has the god damn nuke codes in his bed room FUCK CONGRESS!
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What a brilliant comment.
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
He becomes the first President in history to lose the right to declare War on a Nation (Specific Iran)
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
He becomes the first President in history to lose the right to declare War on a Nation (Specific Iran)
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no president has ever been able to declare a war. that is congress' job.

these military strikes without congressional approval have just become the norm in the last couple decades, and should be reigned in, but the democrats aren't doing this for the right reason.

they are just doing this to spite trump. had it been obama or hillary they would be cheering it on and encouraging more strikes.

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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
He becomes the first President in history to lose the right to declare War on a Nation (Specific Iran)
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no president has ever been able to declare a war. that is congress' job.

these military strikes without congressional approval have just become the norm in the last couple decades, and should be reigned in, but the democrats aren't doing this for the right reason.

they are just doing this to spite trump. had it been obama or hillary they would be cheering it on and encouraging more strikes.
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Then why do they need to pass a law then?
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
Because he attacked Iran. HHHuuuurrrrr deeeee ddduuurrrrrr

This should apply to ALL military action for EVERY US President, which it does.
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
He becomes the first President in history to lose the right to declare War on a Nation (Specific Iran)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5650064


no president has ever been able to declare a war. that is congress' job.

these military strikes without congressional approval have just become the norm in the last couple decades, and should be reigned in, but the democrats aren't doing this for the right reason.

they are just doing this to spite trump. had it been obama or hillary they would be cheering it on and encouraging more strikes.
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Then why do they need to pass a law then?
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hesright

You mean even the Republicans that voted for this would be cheering Hillary?
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
Because he attacked Iran. HHHuuuurrrrr deeeee ddduuurrrrrr

This should apply to ALL military action for EVERY US President, which it does.
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He should veto it until they change it to ALL countries not just Iran...

If he gets pushback ask why?

Then he will have tricked them into fulfilling another promise - to get us out of ALL endless wars, or at least to make them accountable for it
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
It says nothing about war, it about limiting military action as the commander and chief.
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
Good, this way congress has just as much responsibility for approving it
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
Don’t see why Trump wouldn’t veto this. Stupid to handicap your leader while he is trying to negotiate against an adversary who keeps testing us. If they don’t fear Trump then his hand is bust. Always leave it to the Gaylord’s in Congress to not understand negotiations... might explain why every government contract is 10x the true cost
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
Because he attacked Iran. HHHuuuurrrrr deeeee ddduuurrrrrr

This should apply to ALL military action for EVERY US President, which it does.
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Really? When was the last time it was invoked? Obama? Nope...Bush jr? Nope...Bush Sr? Nope...

More Congressional TDS. They should have done their jobs and invoked it with the three I just mentioned, but they never did.
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He becomes the first President in history to lose the right to declare War on a Nation (Specific Iran)
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He has veto power over whatever this was. It’s already dead , you just have not been informed of it officially.
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As we have come to realize, doesn't matter what you do or don't think should happen, it always works out how The Don wants it to.

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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
He becomes the first President in history to lose the right to declare War on a Nation (Specific Iran)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5650064


no president has ever been able to declare a war. that is congress' job.

these military strikes without congressional approval have just become the norm in the last couple decades, and should be reigned in, but the democrats aren't doing this for the right reason.

they are just doing this to spite trump. had it been obama or hillary they would be cheering it on and encouraging more strikes.
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Then why do they need to pass a law then?
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because orange man bad and they don't want him doing the same things the past presidents have been doing to try to make an example out of him.

he never has been part of the "club".

god forbid he get credit for killing terrorists.

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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
Because he attacked Iran. HHHuuuurrrrr deeeee ddduuurrrrrr

This should apply to ALL military action for EVERY US President, which it does.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72487361


He should veto it until they change it to ALL countries not just Iran...

If he gets pushback ask why?

Then he will have tricked them into fulfilling another promise - to get us out of ALL endless wars, or at least to make them accountable for it
 Quoting: Evolution16


that would be incredible.
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
Because he attacked Iran. HHHuuuurrrrr deeeee ddduuurrrrrr

This should apply to ALL military action for EVERY US President, which it does.
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There is an amendment in the bill that states basically this has no effect on that at all, it was written in so they couldn’t come back at him
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
Because he attacked Iran. HHHuuuurrrrr deeeee ddduuurrrrrr

This should apply to ALL military action for EVERY US President, which it does.
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A couple drones are not war, goombah
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
Congress does not control the military, that is the Presidents job.

He does not need their approval nor does he need to inform them of his plans or actions.

The Senate can shove it, Congress has had no real power since the Southern States left the "voluntary" Union. Everything they have done since is not even the law, it is color of law, look it up.
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
Here are the #walkaway GOP senators who joined Democrats in the bipartisan vote:

Todd Young

Mike Lee

Lisa Murkowski

Susan Collins

Rand Paul

Bill Cassidy

Jerry Moran

Lamar Alexander
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I'm surprised with Mike Lee, not the others. They each have their own problems. Not surprised with Rand Paul either.
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This is REALLY IGNORANT SHIT,

When the US Senate and House put together UNCONSTITUTIONAL BULLSHIT....

AND PASS IT!!!!!
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Somebody has to keep the obese orange toddler under supervision... so it's good to see Republicon's doing at least one thing correctly
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
It would actually be hilarious if Trump didn't veto it, but then just acted within the inherent loopholes of the law to do what he wants anyway.

This is obviously a trap for the Dems to throw their hands up and say "see, he's a tyrant that won't accept checks to his power!!!!". They know it is DOA when (if) it reaches the white house.

I just feel that Trump will (yet again) avoid this trap in a way the Dems don't see coming.
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
Why just Iran?
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Amazing, isn't it?
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
Don’t see why Trump wouldn’t veto this. Stupid to handicap your leader while he is trying to negotiate against an adversary who keeps testing us. If they don’t fear Trump then his hand is bust. Always leave it to the Gaylord’s in Congress to not understand negotiations... might explain why every government contract is 10x the true cost
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Great Comment ...
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Somebody has to keep the obese orange toddler under supervision... so it's good to see Republicon's doing at least one thing correctly
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Stupid comment.

A war, with anyone, is the LAST thing Donald Trump wants.
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
What a waste of time. Legislative branch can't tell the executive what privilege it can and can't exercise. What a inch of m monkeys





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