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Only 144,000 to be saved?

 
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The APIN Networks and their characteristics uncover some of the deceptive conceptual and verbal coding in the Bible, in particular, Revelations. For example, the intent of the invader NAA was to destroy the 12D Earth portal, the heart of the Great White Lion, and thus tame the Lion, and hence: 'the Lion lies down with the lamb' (the heart being likened to the lamb and of Christ). The Golden Eagle Grid was taken over and named the White Eagle and combined with the Jehovian Grids. The 'four horsemen of the Apocalypse' refers to the technological warfare and subterfuge of reversing the currents from seven of these Earth stargate portals or energy centres during the Ascension Cycle, by means of the Crucifixion Implants or Jehovian Annunaki seals. 'Angels and trumpets' and the 'Beast' are advanced warfare technologies. The 'seven angels of the seven churches' refer to the seven crucifixion implants , and the pylons as the 'seven candlesticks which are the seven churches'. Angel is the code name for the advanced technology of the hyperdimensional cones seeded in the Earth's grid that reverse the Violet Ray current, reversal 7D current of the Planetary Logos. These writings are clearly the machinations of the fallen ETs in the NAA to create Violent Religions and war on the earth. The Phantom Matrix is a slow-acting black hole system referred to in the Bible as the 'bottomless pit', which is a realm of Hell and Hades.[7]
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I'm not saying this is wrong. It's just that I never heard of it and don't know anything about it so definitely don't feel qualified to comment.
( Does sound kind of cool, though.)

I just wanted to say that in this story, God corresponds to Abraham,
and "the woman", loyal angels ,(same one in Gen. 3:15) corresponds to Sarah,

And Jesus is like Isaac, and his bride, the 144,000 "bought from the earth"are like Rebekah.

And the great crowd standing before the throne (on an earth made Christ's footstool) are the nucleus all who " will make Christ their sacrifice for sins" [Isaiah 53] so "he will see his offspring" though he died before producing any 'natural' offspring. And include resurrected ones who will have a chance during 1000 years to learn the truth ,not obscured by the "father of the lie" who is abyssed during this time.
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You are born into sin.. Yes . No question.

This is what Jesus said, and this is no fault of your own because your consciousness was placed into a malfunctioning body. The world you perceive with your own 5 senses and mind doesnt even exist. It is a creation of the mind. Sinning is believing that you are the body and the worldly desires it creates has something to offer you.

Your consciousness has only received information from your mind and your 5 senses your entire whole life so you erroneously believe this is what you are, but if you were the mind you could tell it to stop thinking and it would.

When you goto a movie theater you know that what you are seeing is not real, yet you still go through a rollercoaster of emotions as your endocrine system pumps out various hormones depending on what you see and it is all fantasy. WHen the movie is over you walk out into the real world and again you go through a rollercoaster of emotions as your endocrine system pumps out more hormones depending on what your mind thinks and perceives from the real world.
What is the difference?

In the first example the world you are experiencing is light being shone through still framed pictures flashing by. In the 2nd example the world you are experiencing doesn't even exist until you create it by placing the light of your consciousness through the filter of your mind and 5 senses. Your thoughts and your mind are so powerful that they press up the unmanifested and create the world you are experiencing.

I agree. "The map is not the territory"
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When your consciousness transcends the mind and 5 senses and is shone through the ajna chakra (Third eye), a completely different is created and experienced.

Matthew 6:22 - The light of the body is the eye if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! No man can serve two masters: For either he will hate the one and love the other or else he hold on to one and despise the other.

You cannot serve God and Mammon. Jesus is clearly telling us that we are sinning when our consciousness is placed through the filter of the mind and the 5 senses with two eyes instead of our ajna chakra, the third eye. Thine eye or single. Why did religions teach that sinning is acting on the desires of the mind? Jesus is saying that you can serve your body or you can serve the divine depending on where your consciousness is placed.

When Jesus looked upon the ocean to through is open third eye he saw vibrating energy and since he himself is vibrating energy he could walk upon it. When we look at the ocean we see water and so the physical water our thoughts create would drown us if attempted Jesus' feat with our unopen third eye.
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my comments above in blue.


The third chakra is the pineal gland, right?

If that's correct, aren't there other ways , besides 'sinful' acts one the part of an individual ?
for instance, [link to thyroidnation.com (secure)]

It's said excess fluoride can cause the whole endocrine system, blood vessels, skeleton, and everything(?) to become calcified, that is, have excess calcium deposited where it doesn't belong and cause lack of function.
in these cases, crippling:
[link to w.ndtvimg.com (secure)]

And then there's 'global dimming'.

i read this you-would-think startling item in 'awake' 2/22/05:
Earth Is Getting Darker
“Scientists have found that less sunlight has been reaching the earth’s surface in recent decades,” notes Scientific American.

“The sun isn’t going dark; rather clouds, air pollution and aerosols are getting in the way.”
From the late 1950’s to the early 1990’s, hundreds of instruments have recorded a decline of up to 10 percent in the amount of sunshine that reached the earth.
The drop was even greater in Asia, Europe, and the United States. Hong Kong, for example, has experienced a 37 percent decrease in sunlight.
The scientists agree that the matter is still not fully understood."


last time i googled, only the n.y.times had a word about this, of u.s. sources. our german exchange student [07] seemed to know all about it and i found there was acknowledgement in european press. i watched a british docu. online about it, with a bunch of implausable bilge, that i think you would only notice if you were looking for everything to be implausable bilge, like i am.
WOULD AFFECT PINEAL chemtrail side effect? chemtrail reason? german guy had noticed chemtrails, but didn't know that word -thought very clever when i explained. now 'chemtrails' , word and concept are getting almost mainstream in germany.
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My pastor this morning preached from revelation, and mentioned that 144,000 will be raptured out.

I am a sinner, so i was wondering if this is correct or bullshit
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"It is between fifty and sixty years since I read it [the Book of Revelation], and I then considered it merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherencies of our own nightly dreams ... I cannot so far respect them as to consider them as an allegorical narrative of events, past or subsequent. There is not enough coherence in them to countenance any suite of rational ideas.... What has no meaning admits no explanation...I do not consider them as reveladons of the supreme being, whom I would not so far blaspheme as to impute to him a pretension of revelation, couched at the same time in terms which, he would know, were never to be understood by those to whom they were addressed."

-Thomas Jefferson
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Who cares what he thinks though?

[even though he's my cousin]

As far as I know, he'll be back and have a chance to find out the truth, and then you [hopefully] will be able to ask him what he thinks.
 Quoting: chauchat


There has never been a more perfect summary of the flaws of the book of revelation than in Thomas Jefferson's brief analysis penned to his friend.

There is nothing more that could be said with a thousand words.

5a
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When you understand most of the bible is written in code, parables and allegories for hidden metaphysical/esoteric knowledge, it makes a lot more sense.

7 candlesticks, 7 seals, and 7 is used all over the bible which means the 7 chakras. etc

Jesus going back to the Father is the pineal gland with Jesus being the christ oil cerebral spinal fluid.
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When you understand most of the bible is written in code, parables and allegories for hidden metaphysical/esoteric knowledge, it makes a lot more sense.

7 candlesticks, 7 seals, and 7 is used all over the bible which means the 7 chakras. etc

Jesus going back to the Father is the pineal gland with Jesus being the christ oil cerebral spinal fluid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70570556


lolatu chuckle laugh lol rofl 1rof1 lmao lolsign

muttley sockpuppet bonghit beavis crazyjak blahblah5

bullshit
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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The Trib started at the end of last Shavuot 6/8-9/2019...
 Quoting: Michael.

Nonsense.

What has warranted the last 8 months being unlike any other time in all of history?

Nothing.
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What has been the Tribulation of the last 8 months?

Anyone?
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Is there any biblical basis to believe anything specifically about any specific date here?
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Is there any biblical basis for us to look for or believe anything specifically about any date for any reason?
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The Trib started at the end of last Shavuot 6/8-9/2019...
 Quoting: Michael.

Nonsense.

What has warranted the last 8 months being unlike any other time in all of history?

Nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78510185


What has been the Tribulation of the last 8 months?

Anyone?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78510185


Only the "beginning of sorrows" mentioned by Jesus.
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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12 tribes
X
12 Apostles
X
1000 (God’s number of totality)
=
144,000

Revelation is a book of symbols.

Conclusion: 144,000 represents all those who are the children of God.
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Every description of the 144,000 point to all Christians.

3 ...the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

[see 1 Corinthians 6:20, bought = redeemed - Strongs #59]
[see Revelation 5:9, ...hast redeemed us]

4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins.

[see 2 Corinthians 11:2]

4 ...These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth.

[see Revelation 7:17, the Lamb...shall lead them]

4 ...being the firstfruits...

[see James 1:18]

5 And in their mouth was found no guile...

[see 1 Peter 3:10]

5 ...for they are without fault...

[see Jude :24]

Please folks read the Bible and don't believe the false teachers who try to lead you off the true path.
If you are a true Christian, YOU are one of the 144,000 (a symbolic number).

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My pastor this morning preached from revelation, and mentioned that 144,000 will be raptured out.

I am a sinner, so i was wondering if this is correct or bullshit
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BS stolen history.

The Great Pyramid had 144,000 casing stones.
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My pastor this morning preached from revelation, and mentioned that 144,000 will be raptured out.

I am a sinner, so i was wondering if this is correct or bullshit
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Your pastor is a wolf in sheeps clothing and we all are sinners who need only to repent and accept Christ and the Holy Spirit will lead you into all truth.

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My pastor this morning preached from revelation, and mentioned that 144,000 will be raptured out.

I am a sinner, so i was wondering if this is correct or bullshit
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BS stolen history.

The Great Pyramid had 144,000 casing stones.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


Your pastor is a wolf in sheeps clothing and we all are sinners who need only to repent and accept Christ and the Holy Spirit will lead you into all truth.
 Quoting: Song of the Wind


They stole the NA Totem Pole knowledge too SotW

Life, Love, Humanitarianism, Death and Resurrection.

This was known in the west long before Christ was 'metaphorically' crucified. His 'crucifixion' has a deeper meaning relating to Earth and a cyclical astronomical catastrophe...ancient knowledge.
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I always have figured that there were only 144
thousand seats on the space ship !!!
But didn't worry about it as i kinda figure
that there is a fleet of space ships.
And / Or they will beam the rest of us up into
a computer and then beam us back either here
after it is safe again or on another similar
planet.
Actually i have always believed that many advanced
souls or people will "Choose" to remain to help
people who miss the flight for some reason.
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When you understand most of the bible is written in code, parables and allegories for hidden metaphysical/esoteric knowledge, it makes a lot more sense.

7 candlesticks, 7 seals, and 7 is used all over the bible which means the 7 chakras. etc

Jesus going back to the Father is the pineal gland with Jesus being the christ oil cerebral spinal fluid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70570556


lolatu chuckle laugh lol rofl 1rof1 lmao lolsign

:muttley: sockpuppet bonghit beavis crazyjak blahblah5

:bullshit:
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Very predictable mature response from the supposed "Christians" on here.
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I always have figured that there were only 144
thousand seats on the space ship !!!
But didn't worry about it as i kinda figure
that there is a fleet of space ships.
And / Or they will beam the rest of us up into
a computer and then beam us back either here
after it is safe again or on another similar
planet.
Actually i have always believed that many advanced
souls or people will "Choose" to remain to help
people who miss the flight for some reason.
 Quoting: grover 76326459


It's sad almost nobody even knows how our collective consciousness / thoughts create this world and universe around of us. They think the world / physical plane just exists and they have nothing to do with it and there's nothing more to reality
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My pastor this morning preached from revelation, and mentioned that 144,000 will be raptured out.

I am a sinner, so i was wondering if this is correct or bullshit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76348710


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


Your pastor is a wolf in sheeps clothing and we all are sinners who need only to repent and accept Christ and the Holy Spirit will lead you into all truth.
 Quoting: Song of the Wind


If that was true how come most Christians can't recognize truth if it was right in front of their face? Some are so far gone and brainwashed by modern Roman perverted Christianity they can't even hold a civil conversation.

Nor can they see that right now Rome controls almost the whole world.
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Re: Only 144,000 to be saved?
12 tribes
X
12 Apostles
X
1000 (God’s number of totality)
=
144,000

Revelation is a book of symbols.

Conclusion: 144,000 represents all those who are the children of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78507929


Every description of the 144,000 point to all Christians.

3 ...the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

[see 1 Corinthians 6:20, bought = redeemed - Strongs #59]
[see Revelation 5:9, ...hast redeemed us]

4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins.

[see 2 Corinthians 11:2]

4 ...These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth.

[see Revelation 7:17, the Lamb...shall lead them]

4 ...being the firstfruits...

[see James 1:18]

5 And in their mouth was found no guile...

[see 1 Peter 3:10]

5 ...for they are without fault...

[see Jude :24]

Please folks read the Bible and don't believe the false teachers who try to lead you off the true path.
If you are a true Christian, YOU are one of the 144,000 (a symbolic number).
 Quoting: Song of the Wind


Sadly most people aren't real "Christians". Real early mystic/esoteric christianity is gnosticism. Yeshua was an aeon from the pleroma teaching gnosis and kundalini meditation / how to achieve enlightenment and become just like Yeshua himself.

Shame most people can't see that and think they can sit around on their ass waiting for him to come save them when they can't even save themselves and rise out of sin (lower 3 chakras)

They cant even recognize when the "lamb" is trying to wake them up.

Humanity is looking quite doomed atm.
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sounds like a space ship that can house 144,000 people like a small city
wonder if weed is gonna be there
it is a plant that was created by GOD
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sounds like a space ship that can house 144,000 people like a small city
wonder if weed is gonna be there
it is a plant that was created by GOD
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Do you know how consciousness manifests reality?
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sounds like a space ship that can house 144,000 people like a small city
wonder if weed is gonna be there
it is a plant that was created by GOD
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Do you know how consciousness manifests reality?
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nah bro
time
his-story
all that shit
check out ancient egypt
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No, that's referring to 144,000 Volunteers (approx) incarnated right now. Sleepers. Most will not have to be activated.

We did not embark on this mission to fail.
"What you think, you become." - Buddha
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sounds like a space ship that can house 144,000 people like a small city
wonder if weed is gonna be there
it is a plant that was created by GOD
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Do you know how consciousness manifests reality?
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nah bro
time
his-story
all that shit
check out ancient egypt
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I have. What's that have to do with the question?
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No, that's referring to 144,000 Volunteers (approx) incarnated right now. Sleepers. Most will not have to be activated.

We did not embark on this mission to fail.
 Quoting: New Atlantis


Starseeds who must fix their bodies and connect to Universal/Cosmic consciousness
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sounds like a space ship that can house 144,000 people like a small city
wonder if weed is gonna be there
it is a plant that was created by GOD
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Do you know how consciousness manifests reality?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70570556


nah bro
time
his-story
all that shit
check out ancient egypt
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I have. What's that have to do with the question?
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think about you creating everything right now
now research Egyptian his-story
bruh
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The Trib started at the end of last Shavuot 6/8-9/2019...
 Quoting: Michael.

Nonsense.

What has warranted the last 8 months being unlike any other time in all of history?

Nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78510185


What has been the Tribulation of the last 8 months?

Anyone?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78510185


Only the "beginning of sorrows" mentioned by Jesus.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Very beginning. You ain't seen nothing yet.
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nothing new under the sun homie
not even "technology"
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Nonsense.

What has warranted the last 8 months being unlike any other time in all of history?

Nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78510185


What has been the Tribulation of the last 8 months?

Anyone?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78510185


Only the "beginning of sorrows" mentioned by Jesus.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Very beginning. You ain't seen nothing yet.
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So that means no, The Tribulation has not started yet, right?
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Re: Only 144,000 to be saved?
You only heard 5 minutes of the sermon... That 144k saved you heard of has to do with 144k being saved after the Lord returns...
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Re: Only 144,000 to be saved?
Surely you do not really believe that Daniel's 70th Week began 8 months ago, do you?

What marks the beginning of The Tribulation?

What marks the mid-point of The Tribulation?

What marks the end of The Tribulation?
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Re: Only 144,000 to be saved?
Nothing much really

or very much really?
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Re: Only 144,000 to be saved?
Does it matter what The Bible actually says

or just whatever you say?





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