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How well do you really know God and his kingdom to come?

 
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Hello DGN! I’m not a JW but I think you are correct. Reading about God and how he reacts to things all the way through the scriptures is how we get to know him. It’s the only way really.

Another thoughtful thread from you. Thanks buddy! God Bless you! hf
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Let me say it’s the only way “I “ got to know him. He doesn’t talk to me but he comforts me. So I have to read his word to know him as a person. :)
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Let me say it’s the only way “I “ got to know him. He doesn’t talk to me but he comforts me. So I have to read his word to know him as a person. :)
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Do you ever wonder when your thinking encouraging thoughts it might be him whispering into your own mind?
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Just preachy. This is the type of thread that makes GLP great.
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Who made you the judge of such things over other men? Is that the only criteria the Lord will use? What if one never came across scripture, these people would be impossibly cutoff from the Father?
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Not necessarily.

Maybe the Father just never revealed HIS Plan for those folks.

pray
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The FATHER REVEALS ONLY INDIVIDUALLY thru the INdwelling FATHER
FRagment. And its TIME Lord's servant to concept that and connect with YOUR OWN FATHER DIVINE SPIRIT FRAGMENT.. that is the LESSON OF THIS AGE. NO GOD KNOWING PERSON EVER MAKES a RELIGION and we don't follow religions either. Christ did not make a religion and YOUR ANSWER ABOVE while maybe seemingLY Ok is standard BS beloved forced in to Christianity. I have it heard it many many times and a few other CANNED ANSWERS. YOU SOUND LIKE A SALESMAN pushing a CANNED sales push. You cannot sell God. Ponder it. and Lift yourself up.

God the father is found within. Others maybe help turn that on in a person seeking.. but you can't sell religion.. technically anyway.

You have to demonstrate The FATHER which is the MISSION OF HUMAN BEINGS.
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"The FATHER REVEALS ONLY INDIVIDUALLY thru the INdwelling FATHER"
No man that is the Trojan Horse operation of the Angel of Light'
"3 But I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent seduced Eve by its cunning, your minds might be corrupted away from the sincerity and the chastity that are due the Christ. 4 For as it is, if someone comes and preaches a Jesus other than the one we preached, or you receive a spirit other than what you received, or good news other than what you accepted, you easily put up with him.
13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light. It is therefore nothing extraordinary if his ministers also keep disguising themselves as ministers of righteousness. But their end will be according to their works." 2Cor11

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Thread: Bible Study - Is The Kingdom of Heaven / Kingdom of God ONLY "Within You"?
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I've laughed at DGNs threads for years now, being a long time lurker. I've been an ExJW for over 7 years, and a Christian since pretty much the same time. I admire his zeal, but no one could ever convince me to accept the teachings of the Watchtower Society and its Governing Body ever again.

Jesus and God's grace is more then enough for me.
-- my hope is in Christ alone --

"In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also" John 14:2-3 NKJV

"Since you have been raised to new life with Christ, set your sights on the realities of heaven, where Christ sits in the place of honor at God’s right hand. Think about the things of heaven, not the things of earth. For you died to this life, and your real life is hidden with Christ in God" Colossians 3:1-3 NLT
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I've laughed at DGNs threads for years now, being a long time lurker. I've been an ExJW for over 7 years, and a Christian since pretty much the same time. I admire his zeal, but no one could ever convince me to accept the teachings of the Watchtower Society and its Governing Body ever again.

Jesus and God's grace is more then enough for me.
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They are defined by their virtues, which give me opportunity to make something out of nothing on my end.
Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” Mt28:19

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That's a good verse. Why does the Watchtower not baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirt?

I was baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Is that how you were baptized?
-- my hope is in Christ alone --

"In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also" John 14:2-3 NKJV

"Since you have been raised to new life with Christ, set your sights on the realities of heaven, where Christ sits in the place of honor at God’s right hand. Think about the things of heaven, not the things of earth. For you died to this life, and your real life is hidden with Christ in God" Colossians 3:1-3 NLT
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That's a good verse. Why does the Watchtower not baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirt?

I was baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Is that how you were baptized?
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Yea as are all 285,000 or so each year internationally.
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I was raised a JW, and went to nearly every meeting, convention, etc until 2012, (born 1989). I know that not once have I heard a JW baptism being declared in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

They do ask the baptism canadites if they identify as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with Jehovah's spirit directed organization. Now they dont even mention the "spirit directed" anymore, just this last year they changed it.
-- my hope is in Christ alone --

"In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also" John 14:2-3 NKJV

"Since you have been raised to new life with Christ, set your sights on the realities of heaven, where Christ sits in the place of honor at God’s right hand. Think about the things of heaven, not the things of earth. For you died to this life, and your real life is hidden with Christ in God" Colossians 3:1-3 NLT
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That's a good verse. Why does the Watchtower not baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirt?

I was baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Is that how you were baptized?
 Quoting: westcoast1


ALL these verses say baptize in Jesus' name - no other.

Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.

Acts 8:16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)

Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Galations 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
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That's a good verse. Why does the Watchtower not baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirt?

I was baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Is that how you were baptized?
 Quoting: westcoast1


Yea as are all 285,000 or so each year internationally.
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They must not have gotten the memo:

Baptismal questions from ANNOUNCEMENTS AND REMINDERS May 2019 (section FOR THE ELDERS ONLY).

3. Baptism Questions: The two baptism questions that are reviewed with candidates at the time of their concluding discussion with the elders and that are included at the end of each baptism talk outline have been changed as follows: (1) “Have you repented of your sins, dedicated yourself to Jehovah, and accepted his way of salvation through Jesus Christ?” (2) “Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?” The new questions will be used starting with the baptism talks at assemblies and conventions beginning the week of May 13, 2019. Elders should update the two questions on page 209 in their copies of Organized to Do Jehovah’s Will.
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14. Why is prayer a key to learning more about God?

14 Good communication is the lifeblood of a strong relationship. So draw close to God by praying often, never being afraid to express your innermost thoughts to him. (Eph. 6:18) Krista, who lives in Turkey, says: “My love for Jehovah and my trust in him grow each time I express my thoughts to him in prayer and then see him help me. Seeing how Jehovah answers my prayers has helped me to view Jehovah as a Father and Friend.”
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MOSES SAW “THE ONE WHO IS INVISIBLE”

5. What did Moses choose to do?

5 Moses acted on what he learned. When he was about 40 years old, Moses chose to associate with God’s people, the Hebrews, rather than to be known as “the son of Pharaoh’s daughter.” (Heb. 11:24) Moses gave up a prominent position. By siding with the Hebrews, who were slaves in Egypt, he risked the wrath of Pharaoh, a powerful ruler who was viewed as a god. What an outstanding act of faith! Moses trusted in Jehovah. Such trust is a foundation stone of a lasting relationship.—Prov. 3:5.
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Moses was Pharoah Akhenaten fyi
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Ahhh.... secret Star Wars Code,,,, big hook to little bait... cast again?
DOrolleyes
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Just the truth. Does it bother you?
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MOSES SAW “THE ONE WHO IS INVISIBLE”

5. What did Moses choose to do?

5 Moses acted on what he learned. When he was about 40 years old, Moses chose to associate with God’s people, the Hebrews, rather than to be known as “the son of Pharaoh’s daughter.” (Heb. 11:24) Moses gave up a prominent position. By siding with the Hebrews, who were slaves in Egypt, he risked the wrath of Pharaoh, a powerful ruler who was viewed as a god. What an outstanding act of faith! Moses trusted in Jehovah. Such trust is a foundation stone of a lasting relationship.—Prov. 3:5.
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Moses was Pharoah Akhenaten fyi
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Ahhh.... secret Star Wars Code,,,, big hook to little bait... cast again?
DOrolleyes
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Just the truth. Does it bother you?
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Moses was Pharoah Akhenaten fyi
I like it, has a sort of Anikan Skywalker mystique about it.
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The 10 commandments came from the 42 Egyptian commandments of Ma'at too.

Pharoah Akhenaten aka moses is who created single god religion aka monotheism with the worship of the aten.

All abrahamic religions stem from this.
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b) The flagship Lilith (dark glossy Metallic War-planet) which around 9.600 B.C at the time of the sinking of Atlantis & Aegis was moved and stationed behind the Moon at a selenosynchronous orbit.
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The 10 commandments came from the 42 Egyptian commandments of Ma'at too.

Pharoah Akhenaten aka moses is who created single god religion aka monotheism with the worship of the aten.

All abrahamic religions stem from this.
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Who did Abraham worship?
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The 10 commandments came from the 42 Egyptian commandments of Ma'at too.

Pharoah Akhenaten aka moses is who created single god religion aka monotheism with the worship of the aten.

All abrahamic religions stem from this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78537871

Speculative at best.

Moses was a pharoah? chuckle

Similarity does NOT PROVE direct association nor origination.

Historical existence does not prove "origin of story".

Adam and Eve had "one God", and a succession of descendents also believed such.
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A MAN AGREEABLE TO JEHOVAH’S HEART

15. How did Jehovah describe King David?

15 King David was born into a nation that was dedicated to Jehovah God. But David did more than just follow his family’s religious traditions. He built his own relationship with God, and Jehovah had special affection for him. Jehovah himself described David as “a man agreeable to [His] heart.” (Acts 13:22) How did David come to be so close to Jehovah?
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16. What did David learn about Jehovah by looking at creation?

16 David learned about Jehovah from creation. When David was young, he spent many hours outdoors, caring for his father’s sheep. Perhaps it was then that he began to meditate on the things Jehovah had made. For example, as David gazed up at night, not only would he have seen a canopy of stars but he would also have discerned the qualities of the One who made them. David was moved to write: “The heavens are declaring the glory of God; the skies above proclaim the work of his hands.” (Ps. 19:1, 2) When David reflected on the way humans were made, he saw Jehovah’s wonderful wisdom at work. (Ps. 139:14) As David tried to comprehend Jehovah’s works, he felt humbled.—Ps. 139:6.
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17. What can we learn if we meditate on creation?

17 What is the lesson for us? Be interested in creation. Do more than just exist in this beautiful world that Jehovah has created; be amazed by it! In your daily life, meditate on what the creation around you—the plants, animals, and people—teaches you about Jehovah. Then each new day will be full of lessons about your loving Father. (Rom. 1:20) And each day you will see your love for him grow more intense.
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18. As shown in Psalm 18, what did David acknowledge?

18 David recognized that Jehovah was helping him. For example, when David defended his father’s sheep from a lion and from a bear, he recognized that it was Jehovah who was helping him overcome those powerful predators. When he defeated the giant warrior Goliath, David saw clearly that it was Jehovah who was guiding him. (1 Sam. 17:37) And when he escaped from jealous King Saul, David acknowledged that it was Jehovah who had saved him. (Ps. 18, superscription) A proud man might have taken credit for those accomplishments. But David was humble, so he was able to recognize Jehovah’s hand in his life.—Ps. 138:6.
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I've laughed at DGNs threads for years now, being a long time lurker. I've been an ExJW for over 7 years, and a Christian since pretty much the same time. I admire his zeal, but no one could ever convince me to accept the teachings of the Watchtower Society and its Governing Body ever again.

Jesus and God's grace is more then enough for me.
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So what's your participation, sounds like you're just loafing along for a free ride?

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The 10 commandments came from the 42 Egyptian commandments of Ma'at too.

Pharoah Akhenaten aka moses is who created single god religion aka monotheism with the worship of the aten.

All abrahamic religions stem from this.
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Why did Moses say the tablets were from Jehovah?
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I am a J.W. Jesus Christ is Lord.
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What is his Father's name?
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14. Why is prayer a key to learning more about God?

14 Good communication is the lifeblood of a strong relationship. So draw close to God by praying often, never being afraid to express your innermost thoughts to him. (Eph. 6:18) Krista, who lives in Turkey, says: “My love for Jehovah and my trust in him grow each time I express my thoughts to him in prayer and then see him help me. Seeing how Jehovah answers my prayers has helped me to view Jehovah as a Father and Friend.”
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Can anyone seek a relationship with God without initiating it?
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19. What can we learn from David’s example?

19 What is the lesson for us? We need to do more than just ask for Jehovah’s help. We must also try to recognize when and how he gives us help. If we humbly acknowledge our limitations, we will clearly see that Jehovah makes up for what we lack. And each time we see Jehovah help us, our relationship with him will grow stronger. Isaac, a brother in Fiji who has served Jehovah for many years, found this to be true. He says: “Looking back on my life, I can see how Jehovah has helped me from the time I began to study the Bible until today. As a result, Jehovah is very real to me.”





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