To the christians of GLP (not a bash christian thread)

I was not trying to offend or be sarcastic.
It seemed a rhetorical question to me. So I did not attempt to answer.

I told you the truth - I understand what that Chapter in Thess is talking about, and it is not a 'rapture'.

Then I am left to assume you see it as at least the resurrection?

Not sure what you are asking.

I believe it is essentially explaining where the dead are. (in Christ) And how HE will bring them with HIM when He returns.

This has been an interesting thread. Thanks to all!

No pre-trib rapture.

I don't have time for much, but I would like to contribute this. We will know when the 7 years of the antichrist begins. This is clear from scripture, which is a book we can trust utterly as God's word (interpretation is another matter).

The bible says that antichrist enacts a 7 year peace pact. Problem is it does not last 7 years. It lasts 3 1/2 years until antichrist sits in the temple (yet to be built) in Jerusalem and declares himself to be God. At this time the peace shatters and war commences. The Tribulation begins.

So how is it a 7 year peace? It will be signed as a 7 year plan.

When we see a charismatic (politically) world figure step onto the geopolitical stage and save the world from "the brink" by enacting a 7 year peace plan ... we will know that the final 7 year countdown to the Lord's return has begun!

This could be VERY soon. But whether soon or no, only God can save you (and me). So pray. Pray and trust in God's grace.

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Mr. Mann, you are right on. Many "believers" nowadays use the Thessalonians verse to justify the pre-trib rapture. The actual evidence for this happenning is so slim, it's pretty much non-existent.

Jesus and many others prophesied this would happen. Many would be deceived. This includes not only the non-believers, but also those believers who are weak in faith and put their trust in man-made institutions.

Congratulations for doing your own research and following your own interpretation of the Bible instead of blindly following your church.

The churches and main Christian institutions have ALL been infected by the Devil. He has spread so many lies in order to lead Christians astray. Those who blindly follow their church are doomed. I've known this would happen for quite some time.

The final Church is the one in your own soul. The only Church that is safe is the personal, private communion that you have with God. That you have as you read your Bible. Just you and God. That is what the Endtimes are all about. Christians becoming so strong in their faith that they can stand on their own, regardless of what their church thinks or what their family thinks.

You are one of the first I have seen that is dead on. Do not change what you are doing one bit. More and more so-called Christians are being torn away from the true foundations of what Christ taught, and as such are being lured to the Devil's side. You MUST trust yourself. You must trust your own interpretation of the Bible.

The Pre-trib Rapture is a Deception; not The Great Deception, but one of the many leading up to it.

All of us will be here through the Tribulation; non-believers, believers alike. It is the final call. Much will be demanded of us, and those who can rise to the challenge will be rewarded richly.

God bless.

I think I'll be one of those who are left behind...

I might even like a lawless society

I have PAGE after PAGE and POST after POST..PROVING the rapture is PRE TRIB...

BUT......

In each an EVERY case we had mathematic..gemmatria..bible verses..conjecture..guesswork..and a WHOLE LOT OF UTTER TARDNESS to back us up..and in EACH and EVERY CASE...we were WRONG..and always WILL be.

2010 FAILS

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2009 FAILS

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