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It's obvious that a SARs vaccine was created, studied on mice, and that was 15+ years ago.

They obviously snuck the sars vaccination in with the measles vax.

For those with the vax, the coronovirus turns to serious fatal pnemonia.

Its the ONLY plausible explanation.

The good news is that we are all safe, unless you had the secret vax. If so, you will probably die.

There was a sars vaccine created, and it was secretly administered.

Proof:

[link to youtube.com (secure)]
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Hey Lathe....

Never gonna give you up, buddy!

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One thing was not said: A communist dictatorial government like CCP does not follow protocols and rules like democratic governments, there is no one to oversee what the CCP does with the Chinese people, I would not be surprised if the CCP applied mice vaccine to humans without any precautions or scruples.
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So you actually believe only 1700 deaths so far...you really think they closed a whole fucking NATION and lost BILLIONS of dollars for less than 2000 deaths? Your research is worthless without COMMON SENSE.
 Quoting: Halfbreedgal 73149095


Yeah, I had to stop reading there. Very sad tbqh

I get the feeling that this thread is patronized by folks who refuse to believe that this flu is going to be a risk to them. They like to think that only the SARS vaccinated will get it, the Chinese but not them.

Maybe it is a race targeted weapon or maybe not time will tell. Meanwhile, you deniers will deny. Dream on.
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Stop what?
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Quoting Sars studies done on mice.
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Everything starts on mice.

Why do you think I said "Headwork" --This is 8 years old.

They had viable candidate's that long ago.
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". Caution in proceeding to application of a SARS-CoV vaccine in humans is indicated."

Dont you think China would have announced to the scientific community that they had prestigiously created a Sars vaccine?
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I would like constructive (only) feed back on my theory please.

Okay guys, I've tried to restrain myself on this whole coronavirus thing and I think I've done pretty well, lol. I have, however, been doing a ton of research. Probably more than you'd care to read about. So I'm going to be as brief as possible.

First, let me say that there is no need for panic. most US citizens are not at risk for getting the pathological changes in their lungs that are causing deaths in China.

As a matter of fact, as of yesterday, there were 1,770 deaths from the Coronavirus. All of them, with the exception of FOUR occurred in China. I have done research on the four people that have died and found that ALL OF THEM had connections to Asia.

Why is this important?

Keep in mind that as of today, there are 77,000 people diagnosed with the Coronavirus. 26 different countries have reported cases of the virus. Yet only 4 deaths outside of China?

It's been 7 weeks since China admitted they had a pandemic on their hands, surely we'd be seeing a higher death rate outside of China by now, especially because many think the Coronavirus started at least 1 month prior to China's official announcement.

So here's why I am almost positive based on what we've seen so far, that US citizens have nothing to worry about.

Back when the SARs virus was going around, researchers created a vaccine for it. Unfortunately, they found this (I will not change the wording, I'm leaving it exactly as it was written).

“The researchers created vaccines based on SARS-CoV S and SARS-CoV N by taking the genes coding for those proteins and inserting them into another type of virus particle that acted as a delivery vehicle. They injected mice with these vaccines and then tested whether the mice generated an immune response against the specific SARS proteins, which they did. The next step was to work out whether mice injected with the vaccines would be protected against later infection with SARS-CoV. The researchers found that mice injected with vaccine based on SARS-CoV S were protected against later infection with a standard SARS-CoV strain, both in the short term (eight weeks after vaccination) and the long term (54 weeks after vaccination). However, the vaccine based on SARS-CoV N did not seem to result in protection, and, worryingly, caused pathological changes in the lungs of mice following virus challenge.”

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]


Now, fast forward to the Coronavirus....Here is the genome sequencing for the Coronavirus (known as 2019-N CoV)...

[link to www.mdpi.com (secure)]

Do I expect you to read and understand all of this? NO!
What I want you to see is this paragraph:

"2019-nCoV antibodies against the N protein would likely recognize and bind the SARS-CoV N protein as well. N antibodies do not provide immunity to 2019-nCoV infection, but the cross reactivity with SARS-CoV N protein would allow a serum based assay to determine exposure to the novel CoV in asymptomatic cases."

So what does all of this mean?

In layman's terms, a vaccine was made for the SARS virus. Researchers then found that when they reinfected mice with SARS again 54 weeks after vaccination, they saw pathological changes in the lungs of the vaccinated mice.

This same exact protein is is the 2019 -nCoV virus. So, what do you think is going to happen to the people who already had the SARs vaccine and now get re-infected? You're seeing it! They get pnuemonia (and worse) and die! And WHERE do you think the people who got SARs vaccines live? In Asian countries, most in CHINA where SARs originated!

Can you get the coronavirus? YES
You can get any virus.
Will you die from it? Probably not, unless you are already very compromised OR have had the SARs vaccine.

Of course, the powers to be will NEVER admit that a vaccine is actually causing these deaths, but look at the entire picture, so far, my theory is proving to be true. Time will tell.
 Quoting: Wildthing3


Do you have any data on how many were vaccinated against SARS in China?
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A very interesting theory, OP. However, what does this portend for the world economy when China is virtually shut down for a length of time? Very hard to shop in the U.S without buying Chinese made products. Stock markets around the world are reacting already.
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So you actually believe only 1700 deaths so far...you really think they closed a whole fucking NATION and lost BILLIONS of dollars for less than 2000 deaths? Your research is worthless without COMMON SENSE.
 Quoting: Halfbreedgal 73149095


Yeah, I had to stop reading there. Very sad tbqh

I get the feeling that this thread is patronized by folks who refuse to believe that this flu is going to be a risk to them. They like to think that only the SARS vaccinated will get it, the Chinese but not them.

Maybe it is a race targeted weapon or maybe not time will tell. Meanwhile, you deniers will deny. Dream on.
 Quoting: The Lathe Of Heaven

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Yes, we will continue to deny it and you will continue to say "time will tell". One hour one of the two has to prevail, it won't be long to see who.
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This may be true, but there's another kind of virus that's been unleashed — an "economic" virus. Once China can't meet the demand of the US and other nation's needs, collapse and panic begins
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This is the real doom.
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And in China, vaccinations are mandatory. Even the flu shot.

Good theory you have there OP, 5* & green.
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Do not EVER let anyone FORCE you to get injected with ANYTHING. Especially anything with a long list of dangers right there on the insert!
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This is basicaly the same theory that has been put forward repeatedly by a couple of posters on the big thread.

The theory falls down for the fact there was no MASS vaccine campaign in China, just a small trial in 2004. Please provid a link to correct me if you are able, to prove that China mass vaccinated for SARS (2019 was possited by a poster) because i can find no evidence online that this is true.
 Quoting: The Lathe Of Heaven


WRONG! THey have a massive MANDATORY vaccination program, tard!
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I like it
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This is basicaly the same theory that has been put forward repeatedly by a couple of posters on the big thread.

The theory falls down for the fact there was no MASS vaccine campaign in China, just a small trial in 2004. Please provid a link to correct me if you are able, to prove that China mass vaccinated for SARS (2019 was possited by a poster) because i can find no evidence online that this is true.
 Quoting: The Lathe Of Heaven


WRONG! THey have a massive MANDATORY vaccination program, tard!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 977153


I know prag, i quoted the viruses that they immunize against and that they passed a law to mandatorily vaccinate.

The question i am debating, if you have been following this thread and are litterate, is that they have been innouclated with Sars which i say is untrue and that no vaccine exists (for the 7th time).

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I would like constructive (only) feed back on my theory please.

Okay guys, I've tried to restrain myself on this whole coronavirus thing and I think I've done pretty well, lol. I have, however, been doing a ton of research. Probably more than you'd care to read about. So I'm going to be as brief as possible.

First, let me say that there is no need for panic. most US citizens are not at risk for getting the pathological changes in their lungs that are causing deaths in China.

As a matter of fact, as of yesterday, there were 1,770 deaths from the Coronavirus. All of them, with the exception of FOUR occurred in China. I have done research on the four people that have died and found that ALL OF THEM had connections to Asia.

Why is this important?

Keep in mind that as of today, there are 77,000 people diagnosed with the Coronavirus. 26 different countries have reported cases of the virus. Yet only 4 deaths outside of China?

It's been 7 weeks since China admitted they had a pandemic on their hands, surely we'd be seeing a higher death rate outside of China by now, especially because many think the Coronavirus started at least 1 month prior to China's official announcement.

So here's why I am almost positive based on what we've seen so far, that US citizens have nothing to worry about.

Back when the SARs virus was going around, researchers created a vaccine for it. Unfortunately, they found this (I will not change the wording, I'm leaving it exactly as it was written).

“The researchers created vaccines based on SARS-CoV S and SARS-CoV N by taking the genes coding for those proteins and inserting them into another type of virus particle that acted as a delivery vehicle. They injected mice with these vaccines and then tested whether the mice generated an immune response against the specific SARS proteins, which they did. The next step was to work out whether mice injected with the vaccines would be protected against later infection with SARS-CoV. The researchers found that mice injected with vaccine based on SARS-CoV S were protected against later infection with a standard SARS-CoV strain, both in the short term (eight weeks after vaccination) and the long term (54 weeks after vaccination). However, the vaccine based on SARS-CoV N did not seem to result in protection, and, worryingly, caused pathological changes in the lungs of mice following virus challenge.”

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]


Now, fast forward to the Coronavirus....Here is the genome sequencing for the Coronavirus (known as 2019-N CoV)...

[link to www.mdpi.com (secure)]

Do I expect you to read and understand all of this? NO!
What I want you to see is this paragraph:

"2019-nCoV antibodies against the N protein would likely recognize and bind the SARS-CoV N protein as well. N antibodies do not provide immunity to 2019-nCoV infection, but the cross reactivity with SARS-CoV N protein would allow a serum based assay to determine exposure to the novel CoV in asymptomatic cases."

So what does all of this mean?

In layman's terms, a vaccine was made for the SARS virus. Researchers then found that when they reinfected mice with SARS again 54 weeks after vaccination, they saw pathological changes in the lungs of the vaccinated mice.

This same exact protein is is the 2019 -nCoV virus. So, what do you think is going to happen to the people who already had the SARs vaccine and now get re-infected? You're seeing it! They get pnuemonia (and worse) and die! And WHERE do you think the people who got SARs vaccines live? In Asian countries, most in CHINA where SARs originated!

Can you get the coronavirus? YES
You can get any virus.
Will you die from it? Probably not, unless you are already very compromised OR have had the SARs vaccine.

Of course, the powers to be will NEVER admit that a vaccine is actually causing these deaths, but look at the entire picture, so far, my theory is proving to be true. Time will tell.
 Quoting: Wildthing3


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US and most Western military personnel get alot of vaccines.
Is SARS one of them?

Is it possible that the most vaccinated group of people in society are now the most at risk??
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US and most Western military personnel get alot of vaccines.
Is SARS one of them?

Is it possible that the most vaccinated group of people in society are now the most at risk??
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I can tell you that SARS is NOT one of them.
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This is basicaly the same theory that has been put forward repeatedly by a couple of posters on the big thread.

The theory falls down for the fact there was no MASS vaccine campaign in China, just a small trial in 2004. Please provid a link to correct me if you are able, to prove that China mass vaccinated for SARS (2019 was possited by a poster) because i can find no evidence online that this is true.
 Quoting: The Lathe Of Heaven


WRONG! THey have a massive MANDATORY vaccination program, tard!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 977153


I know prag, i quoted the viruses that they immunize against and that they passed a law to mandatorily vaccinate.

The question i am debating, if you have been following this thread and are litterate, is that they have been innouclated with Sars which i say is untrue and that no vaccine exists (for the 7th time).
 Quoting: The Lathe Of Heaven


BEIJING, Nov. 24 — Chinese researchers expect to begin human trials next month on an experimental SARS vaccine, a government drug official said Monday. “We cannot tell yet whether it will be successful in humans, but we can say it is effective in animals, especially monkeys,” Yin Hongzhang, head of the biological product section of the State Food and Drug Administration, told The Associated Press.

Researchers around the world are seeking SARS vaccines, and Hall urged China to share the results of its tests with scientists in other countries to foster cooperation, peer review and verifiable adherence to safety precautions.

China has already produced about 1,400 shots of the vaccine, and another 20,000 will be packaged and inspected by experts, the Communist Party newspaper People’s Daily reported.


[link to www.nbcnews.com]


So the CCP produced over 20,000 vaccines to start testing humans?

Riiiiightttt.

I wonder how many people they've actually vaccinated over the years.
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One thing was not said: A communist dictatorial government like CCP does not follow protocols and rules like democratic governments, there is no one to oversee what the CCP does with the Chinese people, I would not be surprised if the CCP applied mice vaccine to humans without any precautions or scruples.
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lol, US uses vaccibes completely untested. They follow complete different legislation respect any other drug and do not require following protocols or trials as drugs and vome with full legal immunity for designers, producers, sellers and administers.
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OP....you're a genius!

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Yes this was covered in Baldricks thread and coupled with the fact that China implemented mandatory vaccine law in 12/2019 which was covered in another important thread i think it shows the danger of mandatory vaccines bigly.

Im not afraid of the virus but i am a little fearful of looming cdc dystipian grabs for power

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Irrespective of whether it was specifically a SARS vaccine that was issued, this theory certainly holds some merit as things presently stand- for reasons yet unknown, the virus does appear to be having a far more deleterious effect upon the people from that region.

That said, we're currently in the Twilight Zone in terms of how this is going to play out on a mass scale.

There absolutely is merit in acknowledging that vaccines can circumvent and confuse the highly sensitive and complex immune response- I've linked a video (~20 mins) describing how the immune system is generally taught to medical practitioners, relative to the complex interplay of systems now known to also be involved- it's well worth the watch and explains the rise in autoimmune disorders etc., which could definitely be of relevance to this outbreak.

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You are not thinking about mutations
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I would like constructive (only) feed back on my theory please.

Okay guys, I've tried to restrain myself on this whole coronavirus thing and I think I've done pretty well, lol. I have, however, been doing a ton of research. Probably more than you'd care to read about. So I'm going to be as brief as possible.

First, let me say that there is no need for panic. most US citizens are not at risk for getting the pathological changes in their lungs that are causing deaths in China.

As a matter of fact, as of yesterday, there were 1,770 deaths from the Coronavirus. All of them, with the exception of FOUR occurred in China. I have done research on the four people that have died and found that ALL OF THEM had connections to Asia.

Why is this important?

Keep in mind that as of today, there are 77,000 people diagnosed with the Coronavirus. 26 different countries have reported cases of the virus. Yet only 4 deaths outside of China?

It's been 7 weeks since China admitted they had a pandemic on their hands, surely we'd be seeing a higher death rate outside of China by now, especially because many think the Coronavirus started at least 1 month prior to China's official announcement.

So here's why I am almost positive based on what we've seen so far, that US citizens have nothing to worry about.

Back when the SARs virus was going around, researchers created a vaccine for it. Unfortunately, they found this (I will not change the wording, I'm leaving it exactly as it was written).

“The researchers created vaccines based on SARS-CoV S and SARS-CoV N by taking the genes coding for those proteins and inserting them into another type of virus particle that acted as a delivery vehicle. They injected mice with these vaccines and then tested whether the mice generated an immune response against the specific SARS proteins, which they did. The next step was to work out whether mice injected with the vaccines would be protected against later infection with SARS-CoV. The researchers found that mice injected with vaccine based on SARS-CoV S were protected against later infection with a standard SARS-CoV strain, both in the short term (eight weeks after vaccination) and the long term (54 weeks after vaccination). However, the vaccine based on SARS-CoV N did not seem to result in protection, and, worryingly, caused pathological changes in the lungs of mice following virus challenge.”

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]


Now, fast forward to the Coronavirus....Here is the genome sequencing for the Coronavirus (known as 2019-N CoV)...

[link to www.mdpi.com (secure)]

Do I expect you to read and understand all of this? NO!
What I want you to see is this paragraph:

"2019-nCoV antibodies against the N protein would likely recognize and bind the SARS-CoV N protein as well. N antibodies do not provide immunity to 2019-nCoV infection, but the cross reactivity with SARS-CoV N protein would allow a serum based assay to determine exposure to the novel CoV in asymptomatic cases."

So what does all of this mean?

In layman's terms, a vaccine was made for the SARS virus. Researchers then found that when they reinfected mice with SARS again 54 weeks after vaccination, they saw pathological changes in the lungs of the vaccinated mice.

This same exact protein is is the 2019 -nCoV virus. So, what do you think is going to happen to the people who already had the SARs vaccine and now get re-infected? You're seeing it! They get pnuemonia (and worse) and die! And WHERE do you think the people who got SARs vaccines live? In Asian countries, most in CHINA where SARs originated!

Can you get the coronavirus? YES
You can get any virus.
Will you die from it? Probably not, unless you are already very compromised OR have had the SARs vaccine.

Of course, the powers to be will NEVER admit that a vaccine is actually causing these deaths, but look at the entire picture, so far, my theory is proving to be true. Time will tell.
 Quoting: Wildthing3


Interesting! My grandson who studies in honor classes, explained this to me 3 days ago. He’s 10. He said the coronavirus is an extension of sars
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This is the most sensible theory I’ve read so far. It explains why it’s hitting the Chinese so hard and not other countries.
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Indeed, otherwise ALL asian countries would be like this.
Imagine the Philippines?!?
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First, let me say that there is no need for panic. most US citizens are not at risk for getting the pathological changes in their lungs that are causing deaths in China.

my theory is proving to be true. Time will tell.

 Quoting: Wildthing3


Meanwhile Americans are dropping like flys, from guess what? Influenza.

Just the ‘flu’, which is not even being reported on.

And it is probably in the same modus operandi. From the shots! And getting pneumonia < resulting in death.

The same culprit, and organ failure, and cytokine storm.

What is described and this is being descriptive of, is an autoimmune response, which is the primary killer introduced by foreign agents into the physical body via vaccination.

It is an attack covertly under the guise of modern medicine. The medical industrial complex, a subdivision of the military industrial complex, they go hand in hand, and are both Communistic and Utilitarianist in structure and action.

We are witnessing an emergent medical/military Holocaust Industry, which is seizing global control. The one world order is coming into view, not long now...

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Can I ask then, around 2009/2010 in the U.K. they tried to get as many as possible to have the swine flu vaccine......... would this vaccine affect the lungs like the SARS one? Just curious Cos if so it could start affecting various areas of the western world

Did Americans have to have swine flu vaccine?
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What this all means is that the ‘designer bio-weapon’ as it were was introduced and weaponised in the viral shots.
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And you think PTB had no idea about it...
Now then.... its is not corona virus I worry about.... its who will be blamed for it. Russia already priming its cattle with news reports that USA infected china....
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Why would anybody rule that theory out ?
Easily plausible .





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