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Imminent Russia-Turkey Conflict

 
MissCleo

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People have been saying for years that a war is imminent.
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These things take time.

War started on 911. We are in Phase 7. Long foreplay.

Unless you want the 2 hour movie version, or something.
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02/19/2020 07:39 AM

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Turkey shouldn´t be there in the first place
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Phuck Erdogan and his Wahhabi allies.

I am with Syrian President Assad and whoever will take side with him to defeat Daesh/Isis/Rebel factions.

It's bound to happen at some point or other.

Sultan Erdophuck is looking for trouble. He better get out before it's too late.

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Turkey shouldn´t be there in the first place
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Yes, but this sob have dreams of resurrecting Ottoman Empire.
What we have will be ruined in the process. For one stupid person and half of the country following him blindly, we all gonna pay for it.
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dude, Turkey is there under Israel command

get yourself out of big cities as east as you can.
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Turkey has problems with every country in the region . no need for Israel to interfear
Samael Milcham  (OP)

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02/19/2020 07:41 AM
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"The Turkish Army has ordered the TFSA in Euphrates Shield areas and Afrin to raise preparedness,to enter Idlib"

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

There is a lot of chatter locally aswell but did not made it to msm yet.
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02/19/2020 07:44 AM
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Neither side is backing down.

Turkey doesn't want to go out of Idlib

Russia wants to continue operation until all of Idlib is taken back by Syrian Army.

Russia pointed out today it is the "worst case scenario" if Turkey attacks Syrian army forces.

Today, Erdogan pointed out Idlib operation is imminent!
Turkey will definitely start the operation very soon, and Russia will respond.

Erdogan does all this to win the favor of NATO back (he lost it by attacking Northeast Syria last year)
And NATO is more than willing to see Russia fight with Turkey and lose resources and get weakened. And there is a possibility it gets out of control and NATO has to get involved.


This is the doom you were waiting for!
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As long as this doesn't affect my morning coffee.
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02/19/2020 07:46 AM
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Here's a fact - over the past decade in Syria alone, there has been more destructive ordinance dropped collectively by various military's (US, Russia, Syria, Turkey, Hezbollah / Shi'ite, ISIS, Free Syrian army, Kurds) than has ever been dropped in -all- wars since the introduction of gun powder to recent history.

Yes, all of them, only minus the two A-bombs.



So prepare to see modernized warfare on an entirely new destructive scale should escalation continue.
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02/19/2020 07:51 AM
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"The Turkish Army has ordered the TFSA in Euphrates Shield areas and Afrin to raise preparedness,to enter Idlib"

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

There is a lot of chatter locally aswell but did not made it to msm yet.
 Quoting: Samael Milcham


your army invaded another country . it is an act of war
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02/19/2020 07:54 AM

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Here's a fact - over the past decade in Syria alone, there has been more destructive ordinance dropped collectively by various military's (US, Russia, Syria, Turkey, Hezbollah / Shi'ite, ISIS, Free Syrian army, Kurds) than has ever been dropped in -all- wars since the introduction of gun powder to recent history.

Yes, all of them, only minus the two A-bombs.



So prepare to see modernized warfare on an entirely new destructive scale should escalation continue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78309768


This is nonsense. Ever heard of the battle of Verdun?
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Neither side is backing down.

Turkey doesn't want to go out of Idlib

Russia wants to continue operation until all of Idlib is taken back by Syrian Army.

Russia pointed out today it is the "worst case scenario" if Turkey attacks Syrian army forces.

Today, Erdogan pointed out Idlib operation is imminent!
Turkey will definitely start the operation very soon, and Russia will respond.

Erdogan does all this to win the favor of NATO back (he lost it by attacking Northeast Syria last year)
And NATO is more than willing to see Russia fight with Turkey and lose resources and get weakened. And there is a possibility it gets out of control and NATO has to get involved.


This is the doom you were waiting for!
 Quoting: Samael Milcham


Nothing burger
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02/19/2020 07:55 AM
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Russia fucks with Turkey.

US will vaporize the few Russian forces in Syria.

Trump made it clear to Russia,do net test United States patience.He supports Turkey.

Turkey will shut access to the Bosporus for the Russians.

Meaning Russian Navy will have to transit through the Western Med,English Channel to get home.

Black sea becomes land locked to everything Russian.

US/NATO take full control.
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02/19/2020 07:59 AM
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How many times has Russia kicked the Turks ass in the past 100 years? Guess some never learn
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02/19/2020 08:01 AM

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Russia fucks with Turkey.

US will vaporize the few Russian forces in Syria.

Trump made it clear to Russia,do net test United States patience.He supports Turkey.

Turkey will shut access to the Bosporus for the Russians.

Meaning Russian Navy will have to transit through the Western Med,English Channel to get home.

Black sea becomes land locked to everything Russian.

US/NATO take full control.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77874552


The moment Turkey starts shooting at Russians, Bospor is doomed to be gone from their control very very soon.

The Russians took back Crimea because it is of utmost strategic importance to them. If they have to fight Turkey, Bosporus is the prime objective for them, and they have the means, strategy and will to achieve it quickly and without much fuss.

I wouldn't bet too much on any side in this conflict, if it's all out, there will be no winner. USA would not survive a world war in the state that it is in atm.
The quest for certainty blocks the search for meaning. Uncertainty is the very condition to impel a man to unfold his powers.
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02/19/2020 08:05 AM
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Here's a fact - over the past decade in Syria alone, there has been more destructive ordinance dropped collectively by various military's (US, Russia, Syria, Turkey, Hezbollah / Shi'ite, ISIS, Free Syrian army, Kurds) than has ever been dropped in -all- wars since the introduction of gun powder to recent history.

Yes, all of them, only minus the two A-bombs.



So prepare to see modernized warfare on an entirely new destructive scale should escalation continue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78309768


This is nonsense. Ever heard of the battle of Verdun?
 Quoting: Badnickname



Yes, I have. I'm very fluent in military history.


Did you know the US marines had 8 howitzers firing non-stop, 24 hours a day, round the clock, for 6 months, during the artillery campaign against ISIS?

It was the first time they had to change out a barrel mid service from one of those. And that's just -one- instance of repeated shelling from a military force.

Russian aircraft have been dropping sorties -every day- almost for the past 5 years in Syria, along with Syrian helicopters and ground forces exchanging artillery fire too.

Most media's around the world have just ignored it -entirely- but this war has been going on for a decade with consistently varying intensity save for the -numerous- ceasefires that only lasted briefly.


[link to www.liveuamap.com (secure)]


Awareness. Those artillery strikes are basically what has been happening for years now. People are only just beginning to notice because it's the first time Turkey and Russia have directly engaged since their proxies have formed.
Samael Milcham  (OP)

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"The Turkish Army has ordered the TFSA in Euphrates Shield areas and Afrin to raise preparedness,to enter Idlib"

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

There is a lot of chatter locally aswell but did not made it to msm yet.
 Quoting: Samael Milcham


your army invaded another country . it is an act of war
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78460523


my army? i do not support them. I do not hate them either but it feels like they are doing the bidding of Erdogan only, not caring about what is best for people and following his dreams instead.

I supported the previous actions by Turkish army in Syria, since there was specific threats which needed to be dealt with. You may like YPG but they are no saints, in fact, not much different than Al-Qaeda or ISIS, a terrorist organization.

But Idlib is different. We have no business there, Assad, with the help of Russian army, is dealing with the threat over there. We shouldn't have meddled in this part. Syria and Russia have all the right to attack back and they will.
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02/19/2020 08:18 AM
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Here's a fact - over the past decade in Syria alone, there has been more destructive ordinance dropped collectively by various military's (US, Russia, Syria, Turkey, Hezbollah / Shi'ite, ISIS, Free Syrian army, Kurds) than has ever been dropped in -all- wars since the introduction of gun powder to recent history.

Yes, all of them, only minus the two A-bombs.



So prepare to see modernized warfare on an entirely new destructive scale should escalation continue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78309768


This is nonsense. Ever heard of the battle of Verdun?
 Quoting: Badnickname



Yes, I have. I'm very fluent in military history.


Did you know the US marines had 8 howitzers firing non-stop, 24 hours a day, round the clock, for 6 months, during the artillery campaign against ISIS?

It was the first time they had to change out a barrel mid service from one of those. And that's just -one- instance of repeated shelling from a military force.

Russian aircraft have been dropping sorties -every day- almost for the past 5 years in Syria, along with Syrian helicopters and ground forces exchanging artillery fire too.

Most media's around the world have just ignored it -entirely- but this war has been going on for a decade with consistently varying intensity save for the -numerous- ceasefires that only lasted briefly.


[link to www.liveuamap.com (secure)]


Awareness. Those artillery strikes are basically what has been happening for years now. People are only just beginning to notice because it's the first time Turkey and Russia have directly engaged since their proxies have formed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78309768


That's a new perspective. Thank you.

I still don't see the Syrian war dropping more eplosives than the whole of history previously, but I see your point.

Cheers
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02/19/2020 08:29 AM
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Neither side is backing down.

Turkey doesn't want to go out of Idlib

Russia wants to continue operation until all of Idlib is taken back by Syrian Army.

Russia pointed out today it is the "worst case scenario" if Turkey attacks Syrian army forces.

Today, Erdogan pointed out Idlib operation is imminent!
Turkey will definitely start the operation very soon, and Russia will respond.

Erdogan does all this to win the favor of NATO back (he lost it by attacking Northeast Syria last year)
And NATO is more than willing to see Russia fight with Turkey and lose resources and get weakened. And there is a possibility it gets out of control and NATO has to get involved.


This is the doom you were waiting for!
 Quoting: Samael Milcham


Erdogan is a radical Muslim dictator who arrested and made thousands of his own people disappear when they rose to contest him only a few years ago. Erdogan is the problem. Get rid of that fucker. US troops should not be used in any NATO action due to Erdogan's fuckery.
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02/19/2020 08:31 AM
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Russia fucks with Turkey.

US will vaporize the few Russian forces in Syria.

Trump made it clear to Russia,do net test United States patience.He supports Turkey.

Turkey will shut access to the Bosporus for the Russians.

Meaning Russian Navy will have to transit through the Western Med,English Channel to get home.

Black sea becomes land locked to everything Russian.

US/NATO take full control.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77874552


I am a voting American, am pro-Trump, and this is a US Presidential election year. I, like many, would not support any US participation in a NATO action in support of that radical Muslim dictator, Erdogan.
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02/19/2020 08:41 AM
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As always, nothing will happen in the end. They only create pretext for what has been designed along time ago.
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02/19/2020 08:45 AM
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Úh oh

I just saw this prophecy of a Greek religious "elder" Paisios
Thread: Turkey will disappear from the face of the earth as a state - Prophecy Elder Paisios from Greece

Told from 1991-1994

Last Edited by Gorgol on 02/19/2020 08:49 AM
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02/19/2020 08:49 AM
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I thought the Russians and the Turks were allies?
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putin will do nothing
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He already has done something.
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I thought the Russians and the Turks were allies?
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Turkey is in NATO iamwith
Samael Milcham  (OP)

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02/19/2020 09:06 AM
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Neither side is backing down.

Turkey doesn't want to go out of Idlib

Russia wants to continue operation until all of Idlib is taken back by Syrian Army.

Russia pointed out today it is the "worst case scenario" if Turkey attacks Syrian army forces.

Today, Erdogan pointed out Idlib operation is imminent!
Turkey will definitely start the operation very soon, and Russia will respond.

Erdogan does all this to win the favor of NATO back (he lost it by attacking Northeast Syria last year)
And NATO is more than willing to see Russia fight with Turkey and lose resources and get weakened. And there is a possibility it gets out of control and NATO has to get involved.


This is the doom you were waiting for!
 Quoting: Samael Milcham


Erdogan is a radical Muslim dictator who arrested and made thousands of his own people disappear when they rose to contest him only a few years ago. Erdogan is the problem. Get rid of that fucker. US troops should not be used in any NATO action due to Erdogan's fuckery.
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Erm what? Made "thousands of his own people disappear when they rose to contest him"? Such a thing is not happened.
He is dictator-ish yes but no political opponent has been killed or imprisoned(for being a canditate againist him)

Don't know where you heard that. I hate Erdogan too but just because i hate thim doesn't give me right to lie about the things he did not do.

His biggest fault is, since he held power for far too long, he overestimates the capabilities of Turkish army, and will get us into a major fuckery because of it. Just like Hitler did.
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"The Turkish Army has ordered the TFSA in Euphrates Shield areas and Afrin to raise preparedness,to enter Idlib"

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

There is a lot of chatter locally aswell but did not made it to msm yet.
 Quoting: Samael Milcham


your army invaded another country . it is an act of war
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78460523


my army? i do not support them. I do not hate them either but it feels like they are doing the bidding of Erdogan only, not caring about what is best for people and following his dreams instead.

I supported the previous actions by Turkish army in Syria, since there was specific threats which needed to be dealt with. You may like YPG but they are no saints, in fact, not much different than Al-Qaeda or ISIS, a terrorist organization.

But Idlib is different. We have no business there, Assad, with the help of Russian army, is dealing with the threat over there. We shouldn't have meddled in this part. Syria and Russia have all the right to attack back and they will.
 Quoting: Samael Milcham


not as a person but Erdogan is elected leader so it is not his own fault . he has people that support his actions . its an invasion to take another countries ground . YPG is an excuse
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02/19/2020 09:11 AM
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Prophecy, when Russia marches on Constantinople Jesus return is near.
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the only good thing to come out of Turkei is donner kebabs
Samael Milcham  (OP)

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"The Turkish Army has ordered the TFSA in Euphrates Shield areas and Afrin to raise preparedness,to enter Idlib"

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

There is a lot of chatter locally aswell but did not made it to msm yet.
 Quoting: Samael Milcham


your army invaded another country . it is an act of war
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78460523


my army? i do not support them. I do not hate them either but it feels like they are doing the bidding of Erdogan only, not caring about what is best for people and following his dreams instead.

I supported the previous actions by Turkish army in Syria, since there was specific threats which needed to be dealt with. You may like YPG but they are no saints, in fact, not much different than Al-Qaeda or ISIS, a terrorist organization.

But Idlib is different. We have no business there, Assad, with the help of Russian army, is dealing with the threat over there. We shouldn't have meddled in this part. Syria and Russia have all the right to attack back and they will.
 Quoting: Samael Milcham


not as a person but Erdogan is elected leader so it is not his own fault . he has people that support his actions . its an invasion to take another countries ground . YPG is an excuse
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It is not an excuse though. YPG and PKK are proxy terrorist organizations used by major players to cut out a big portion of Turkey and then capture it. Do not let your hate for Muslims make you not see the real issue behind this.
They are no "insurgents". PKK is funded and armed by outside forces, they are not a divided Kurdish portion of Turkish military or whatsoever. The whole YPG - PKK thing is a project to divide Turkey.

So yes, YPG is a clear threat to the securit of Turkey, if left unchecked, they would have gained the capability to unite with PKK, strenghten it and divide Turkey.
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Let's end NATO.

Fuck that half of the planet. Sort your own shit out.

Shitheads won't pay your nato obligations anyway.
Talk smack and start shit and expect the usa to save your ass.

How about no.
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your army invaded another country . it is an act of war
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my army? i do not support them. I do not hate them either but it feels like they are doing the bidding of Erdogan only, not caring about what is best for people and following his dreams instead.

I supported the previous actions by Turkish army in Syria, since there was specific threats which needed to be dealt with. You may like YPG but they are no saints, in fact, not much different than Al-Qaeda or ISIS, a terrorist organization.

But Idlib is different. We have no business there, Assad, with the help of Russian army, is dealing with the threat over there. We shouldn't have meddled in this part. Syria and Russia have all the right to attack back and they will.
 Quoting: Samael Milcham


not as a person but Erdogan is elected leader so it is not his own fault . he has people that support his actions . its an invasion to take another countries ground . YPG is an excuse
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78460523


It is not an excuse though. YPG and PKK are proxy terrorist organizations used by major players to cut out a big portion of Turkey and then capture it. Do not let your hate for Muslims make you not see the real issue behind this.
They are no "insurgents". PKK is funded and armed by outside forces, they are not a divided Kurdish portion of Turkish military or whatsoever. The whole YPG - PKK thing is a project to divide Turkey.

So yes, YPG is a clear threat to the securit of Turkey, if left unchecked, they would have gained the capability to unite with PKK, strenghten it and divide Turkey.
 Quoting: Samael Milcham


Just as Edogan used Isis as a proxy, there are no good guys in all of this.





GLP