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Show me God without the Bible, then prove he is your religion.

 
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Bro, the war was in reference to a spiritual war ... as the post I was responding to used war in that context. I'm sorry that you took it to the material world and weren't able to read the conversation in the proper context.

I'm a J-w, we know what mono means.
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Ah...I removed my foot from my...mouth? I apologize to you you do indeed know what Momotheism is. I attempted to convert to Judaism many years ago....
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It isn't for everyone and we don't expect everyone to want to adhere to the 613 Commandments. Living by the 7 Noahide Laws are great for the majority!
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Except those 7 make their ancestral gods idolatry to be destroyed. But child molesters are exempt on pain of banishing informers from these 'man-made' and 'luciferian' laws.
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Ancestral gods are idols and not the one G-d. Logically there can only be one G-d, not many because then they wouldn't actually be all powerful givers/sustainers/takers of life.

Child molestation of any kind is not permitted. I hate to ask this, but are you an adult sufferer? I'm terribly sorry for the pain you must be feeling if you are.
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You understand the concept of mesirah better.
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There are bad apples in every bushel, regardless of whether the apple is green, red, Cortland, Fiji, Empire, etc.

You are all over the place. Are you okay?
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From what I've seen again and again the community covers for those bad apples. THEREFORE, collective responsibility is the only way for justice to triumph, and because you willfully dropped the ball, this justice must come at the hands of people who neither show pity on your elderly or your children. Your cruelty and obtuseness make you devoid of humanity in my eyes, and your appeals to ideals you don't actually hold only devalues those concepts when used by people who are sincere. I'm beyond caring about you, because that care only goes to those who are evil and neither need or deserve it. You may be a good individual, probably not, but that is the whole problem with your culture. And don't blame me for not being okay with furthering it.
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Sadly all groups protect the own, but that doesn't make it right. The only solution would be to exterminate the human race if we went with your thinking.

Do you hate all groups equally because someone from each group has inevitably done something bad? It doesn't appear that you spread your hate evenly.
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The human race exterminates itself just fine. I have no interest in saving it as it is, because I was thrwarted by pragmatism like yours in removing any demonstrably harmful elements--they've done too many favors, they're too well-born. It's a wash.
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Science has proven the exsistance of God quite nicely

Now that they have developed powerful microscope and rather types of instruments

That can see the spark of creation when sperm meets egg

No bible required for the scientific community required
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Links or GTFO. Reputable sources, please!
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If you have Alexa of Google home

Ask aboutthe Solvoy conferences

Or read provided link

The scientific community is among board with God now


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Not certain who you are rebuking me are Mr Robot? I am not speaking of a certain religion really If I refer to something it could be of a couple different faiths/beliefs either way not certain what you referred to
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It was to Mr. Robot. If I wanted to have a discussion with you I would have responded to your thread. You seem fine, albeit admittedly muddled. It isn't uncommon with people that believe in spirituality without structure. Lots of plug and play what you think is the best.
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LOL! without structure... In other words without a "Leader/Specific Religion" assisting me in my beliefs and thought processes. Let us compare this a young child placed with others of his/her age will do okay for their age (or if they are more advanced they may be who the others of that age group learn from. Place same child in with a group of older children or more advanced and that child can have the input of others who are more knowledgeable to glean things from (good or bad, right or wrong) do same with a youth/child and adults and again.... Or put many things of all different levels/beliefs within reach and let that person have full range to learn and LEAN to what jives with them or speaks to them...This is where us earthlings have greatly erred (among other things) our governments/religions do not want free thinking open-mindedness how could they EVER hope to Contain and reign over us if we were allowed to do such as this??
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I'm sorry that you were raised in the environment of an unthinking/unquestioning religion. I was not.

Unstructured as in you can pick and choose what you think will work for you. If you want to yoga or pray or burn incense ... do as thou wilt and such
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


okay but how do I choose the right incense?? LOL! No really some of it is nauseating am I right?? I was raised in an environment that had two drunks and attending church on Sunday. Jesus loves the little children ALL the children of the world THAT is all the religion my 6-7 year old mind/spirit needed at the time. Later having read the Bible a number of times and doing Church surfing (looking for one that taught ALL I had read and did not pick and choose from it's pages what they focused on leaving the other stuff badly explained or glossed over)I found myself without a place to Worship the God I knew and loved and who I believe loves us ALL no matter what we believe about them...anyhow
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Ah...I removed my foot from my...mouth? I apologize to you you do indeed know what Momotheism is. I attempted to convert to Judaism many years ago....
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It isn't for everyone and we don't expect everyone to want to adhere to the 613 Commandments. Living by the 7 Noahide Laws are great for the majority!
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Except those 7 make their ancestral gods idolatry to be destroyed. But child molesters are exempt on pain of banishing informers from these 'man-made' and 'luciferian' laws.
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Ancestral gods are idols and not the one G-d. Logically there can only be one G-d, not many because then they wouldn't actually be all powerful givers/sustainers/takers of life.

Child molestation of any kind is not permitted. I hate to ask this, but are you an adult sufferer? I'm terribly sorry for the pain you must be feeling if you are.
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Stop pretending to a humanity your people lack. I already experienced how you deal with things like this. "Honor your father and mother" extends to abusive parents, as I'm sure you know. You never define 'mother or father' but the obligations could fill a Manhattan phone book with two-point font, every one of them insulated against change of any kind by saying they are done with Daas Torah. Like I said, you treat people willing to trust you in bad faith. Every yeshiva student I've talked to goes immediately into 'how to answer the heretic' mode. So let them hash it out with the Cossacks once more, because that will at least remove the notion that lying makes them safe from their twisted minds.
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Ah...I removed my foot from my...mouth? I apologize to you you do indeed know what Momotheism is. I attempted to convert to Judaism many years ago....
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It isn't for everyone and we don't expect everyone to want to adhere to the 613 Commandments. Living by the 7 Noahide Laws are great for the majority!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


Except those 7 make their ancestral gods idolatry to be destroyed. But child molesters are exempt on pain of banishing informers from these 'man-made' and 'luciferian' laws.
 Quoting: Mr. Robot


Ancestral gods are idols and not the one G-d. Logically there can only be one G-d, not many because then they wouldn't actually be all powerful givers/sustainers/takers of life.

Child molestation of any kind is not permitted. I hate to ask this, but are you an adult sufferer? I'm terribly sorry for the pain you must be feeling if you are.
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What you do not want is an open market for justice or notions of rights to appeal to. And you can't even stop the bad apples in your midst if they have done favors for the right people. Why bother?
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There are bad apples in every bushel, regardless of whether the apple is green, red, Cortland, Fiji, Empire, etc.

You are all over the place. Are you okay?
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From what I've seen again and again the community covers for those bad apples. THEREFORE, collective responsibility is the only way for justice to triumph, and because you willfully dropped the ball, this justice must come at the hands of people who neither show pity on your elderly or your children. Your cruelty and obtuseness make you devoid of humanity in my eyes, and your appeals to ideals you don't actually hold only devalues those concepts when used by people who are sincere. I'm beyond caring about you, because that care only goes to those who are evil and neither need or deserve it. You may be a good individual, probably not, but that is the whole problem with your culture. And don't blame me for not being okay with furthering it.
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Sadly all groups protect the own, but that doesn't make it right. The only solution would be to exterminate the human race if we went with your thinking.

Do you hate all groups equally because someone from each group has inevitably done something bad? It doesn't appear that you spread your hate evenly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


The human race exterminates itself just fine. I have no interest in saving it as it is, because I was thrwarted by pragmatism like yours in removing any demonstrably harmful elements--they've done too many favors, they're too well-born. It's a wash.
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Well you have to start somewhere when you do want to save the human race. And I'm sorry that you feel thwarted by practical people. I think the human race is worth saving, but we have a lot of work today. I think in recent years we've gotten better at not whitewashing everything and allowing the bad apples to rot. As a new generation steps in to take the reigns we might just be able to move further in the right direction!
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Religion sends me home. But one world religion will include all. Mandatory.

Religion is from Satan. It’s classic Satan. Truth mixed with lies.
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Tell me the religion and I’ll tell you their lie or doctrine.
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From what I've seen again and again the community covers for those bad apples. THEREFORE, collective responsibility is the only way for justice to triumph, and because you willfully dropped the ball, this justice must come at the hands of people who neither show pity on your elderly or your children. Your cruelty and obtuseness make you devoid of humanity in my eyes, and your appeals to ideals you don't actually hold only devalues those concepts when used by people who are sincere. I'm beyond caring about you, because that care only goes to those who are evil and neither need or deserve it. You may be a good individual, probably not, but that is the whole problem with your culture. And don't blame me for not being okay with furthering it.
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Sadly all groups protect the own, but that doesn't make it right. The only solution would be to exterminate the human race if we went with your thinking.

Do you hate all groups equally because someone from each group has inevitably done something bad? It doesn't appear that you spread your hate evenly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


The human race exterminates itself just fine. I have no interest in saving it as it is, because I was thrwarted by pragmatism like yours in removing any demonstrably harmful elements--they've done too many favors, they're too well-born. It's a wash.
 Quoting: Mr. Robot


Well you have to start somewhere when you do want to save the human race. And I'm sorry that you feel thwarted by practical people. I think the human race is worth saving, but we have a lot of work today. I think in recent years we've gotten better at not whitewashing everything and allowing the bad apples to rot. As a new generation steps in to take the reigns we might just be able to move further in the right direction!
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Only once the right people got everything they wanted out of it. Courage isn't so prudent or self-interested, and we both know that. Why foist a counterfeit version on people who trusted you in good faith?
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It isn't for everyone and we don't expect everyone to want to adhere to the 613 Commandments. Living by the 7 Noahide Laws are great for the majority!
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Except those 7 make their ancestral gods idolatry to be destroyed. But child molesters are exempt on pain of banishing informers from these 'man-made' and 'luciferian' laws.
 Quoting: Mr. Robot


Ancestral gods are idols and not the one G-d. Logically there can only be one G-d, not many because then they wouldn't actually be all powerful givers/sustainers/takers of life.

Child molestation of any kind is not permitted. I hate to ask this, but are you an adult sufferer? I'm terribly sorry for the pain you must be feeling if you are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


What you do not want is an open market for justice or notions of rights to appeal to. And you can't even stop the bad apples in your midst if they have done favors for the right people. Why bother?
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Please don't speak for me when I am capable of speaking for myself. We, as Torah Observant J-ws, are in full favoure of Courts that uphold justice as laid out by G-d in the Torah.

If I had the power, trust me, I'd stop every single one of them. If I were the Pope I'd hang every last diddler in St. Peters square. If I were the President of Any Nation I'd line the streets of the capital with heads on pikes.

Thankfully the Torah outlines the proper punishment and my human side would be constrained and my fleshly desires of gory public retribution would be kept in check.
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GOD=7_4, 7/4=July 4th. See GOD=7_4 Theory at [link to GOD704.fandom.com] .

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It was to Mr. Robot. If I wanted to have a discussion with you I would have responded to your thread. You seem fine, albeit admittedly muddled. It isn't uncommon with people that believe in spirituality without structure. Lots of plug and play what you think is the best.
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LOL! without structure... In other words without a "Leader/Specific Religion" assisting me in my beliefs and thought processes. Let us compare this a young child placed with others of his/her age will do okay for their age (or if they are more advanced they may be who the others of that age group learn from. Place same child in with a group of older children or more advanced and that child can have the input of others who are more knowledgeable to glean things from (good or bad, right or wrong) do same with a youth/child and adults and again.... Or put many things of all different levels/beliefs within reach and let that person have full range to learn and LEAN to what jives with them or speaks to them...This is where us earthlings have greatly erred (among other things) our governments/religions do not want free thinking open-mindedness how could they EVER hope to Contain and reign over us if we were allowed to do such as this??
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I'm sorry that you were raised in the environment of an unthinking/unquestioning religion. I was not.

Unstructured as in you can pick and choose what you think will work for you. If you want to yoga or pray or burn incense ... do as thou wilt and such
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


okay but how do I choose the right incense?? LOL! No really some of it is nauseating am I right?? I was raised in an environment that had two drunks and attending church on Sunday. Jesus loves the little children ALL the children of the world THAT is all the religion my 6-7 year old mind/spirit needed at the time. Later having read the Bible a number of times and doing Church surfing (looking for one that taught ALL I had read and did not pick and choose from it's pages what they focused on leaving the other stuff badly explained or glossed over)I found myself without a place to Worship the God I knew and loved and who I believe loves us ALL no matter what we believe about them...anyhow
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Sadly that is the case with most people. Churches pick and choose because that is how they build a loyal fan base and it also avoids the unwashed masses from asking too many questions about clear and apparent contradictions.

G-d does love most; I can't speak for him, but I'm sure he draws a line eventually.
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Except those 7 make their ancestral gods idolatry to be destroyed. But child molesters are exempt on pain of banishing informers from these 'man-made' and 'luciferian' laws.
 Quoting: Mr. Robot


Ancestral gods are idols and not the one G-d. Logically there can only be one G-d, not many because then they wouldn't actually be all powerful givers/sustainers/takers of life.

Child molestation of any kind is not permitted. I hate to ask this, but are you an adult sufferer? I'm terribly sorry for the pain you must be feeling if you are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


What you do not want is an open market for justice or notions of rights to appeal to. And you can't even stop the bad apples in your midst if they have done favors for the right people. Why bother?
 Quoting: Mr. Robot


Please don't speak for me when I am capable of speaking for myself. We, as Torah Observant J-ws, are in full favoure of Courts that uphold justice as laid out by G-d in the Torah.

If I had the power, trust me, I'd stop every single one of them. If I were the Pope I'd hang every last diddler in St. Peters square. If I were the President of Any Nation I'd line the streets of the capital with heads on pikes.

Thankfully the Torah outlines the proper punishment and my human side would be constrained and my fleshly desires of gory public retribution would be kept in check.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


You can't even go to Gentile courts when the assailant is too powerful to touch! A man is allowed to hold his wife hostage by threatening to make her children mamzers, and the Beis Din backs him. You respect faces in judgment, which the Torah forbids, so why do you pretend that it has any bearing on justice or how you act? It is a closed system, which labels people who disagree with it as heretics and allows the community to vent its malice on them. You can't be trusted on anything, and none of you are the individuals you claim to be.
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LOL! without structure... In other words without a "Leader/Specific Religion" assisting me in my beliefs and thought processes. Let us compare this a young child placed with others of his/her age will do okay for their age (or if they are more advanced they may be who the others of that age group learn from. Place same child in with a group of older children or more advanced and that child can have the input of others who are more knowledgeable to glean things from (good or bad, right or wrong) do same with a youth/child and adults and again.... Or put many things of all different levels/beliefs within reach and let that person have full range to learn and LEAN to what jives with them or speaks to them...This is where us earthlings have greatly erred (among other things) our governments/religions do not want free thinking open-mindedness how could they EVER hope to Contain and reign over us if we were allowed to do such as this??
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I'm sorry that you were raised in the environment of an unthinking/unquestioning religion. I was not.

Unstructured as in you can pick and choose what you think will work for you. If you want to yoga or pray or burn incense ... do as thou wilt and such
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


okay but how do I choose the right incense?? LOL! No really some of it is nauseating am I right?? I was raised in an environment that had two drunks and attending church on Sunday. Jesus loves the little children ALL the children of the world THAT is all the religion my 6-7 year old mind/spirit needed at the time. Later having read the Bible a number of times and doing Church surfing (looking for one that taught ALL I had read and did not pick and choose from it's pages what they focused on leaving the other stuff badly explained or glossed over)I found myself without a place to Worship the God I knew and loved and who I believe loves us ALL no matter what we believe about them...anyhow
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78465026


Sadly that is the case with most people. Churches pick and choose because that is how they build a loyal fan base and it also avoids the unwashed masses from asking too many questions about clear and apparent contradictions.

G-d does love most; I can't speak for him, but I'm sure he draws a line eventually.
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hmm I hope there is a line seeing hoe bad we have made this world at same time I dearly want my loved ones to be on the right side of it as well as all the children led astray
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Ancestral gods are idols and not the one G-d. Logically there can only be one G-d, not many because then they wouldn't actually be all powerful givers/sustainers/takers of life.

Child molestation of any kind is not permitted. I hate to ask this, but are you an adult sufferer? I'm terribly sorry for the pain you must be feeling if you are.
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What you do not want is an open market for justice or notions of rights to appeal to. And you can't even stop the bad apples in your midst if they have done favors for the right people. Why bother?
 Quoting: Mr. Robot


Please don't speak for me when I am capable of speaking for myself. We, as Torah Observant J-ws, are in full favoure of Courts that uphold justice as laid out by G-d in the Torah.

If I had the power, trust me, I'd stop every single one of them. If I were the Pope I'd hang every last diddler in St. Peters square. If I were the President of Any Nation I'd line the streets of the capital with heads on pikes.

Thankfully the Torah outlines the proper punishment and my human side would be constrained and my fleshly desires of gory public retribution would be kept in check.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


You can't even go to Gentile courts when the assailant is too powerful to touch! A man is allowed to hold his wife hostage by threatening to make her children mamzers, and the Beis Din backs him. You respect faces in judgment, which the Torah forbids, so why do you pretend that it has any bearing on justice or how you act? It is a closed system, which labels people who disagree with it as heretics and allows the community to vent its malice on them. You can't be trusted on anything, and none of you are the individuals you claim to be.
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Oh my, I'm trying to have an honest conversation with you and you keep generalizing. You have a very strange view of us. Don't you think that if all that were true people would just walk away? People walk away from things all the time that they don't agree with. We don't lack free will.
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Jehovah witness.

The 144,000 are the babies. Herod sent them home. First fruits of the new covenant. 12,000 from each tribe.
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Existence from nothing - think about it!!
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The rainbow proves design has order. Order is the most high.
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Mormon-book of Mormon added to bible.

Joseph Smith did meet an angel in the desert. The wrong kind.

Grandma dies and you will never see her again if you don’t follow the Book of Mormon.

Built on a foundation of polygamy.
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I'm sorry that you were raised in the environment of an unthinking/unquestioning religion. I was not.

Unstructured as in you can pick and choose what you think will work for you. If you want to yoga or pray or burn incense ... do as thou wilt and such
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


okay but how do I choose the right incense?? LOL! No really some of it is nauseating am I right?? I was raised in an environment that had two drunks and attending church on Sunday. Jesus loves the little children ALL the children of the world THAT is all the religion my 6-7 year old mind/spirit needed at the time. Later having read the Bible a number of times and doing Church surfing (looking for one that taught ALL I had read and did not pick and choose from it's pages what they focused on leaving the other stuff badly explained or glossed over)I found myself without a place to Worship the God I knew and loved and who I believe loves us ALL no matter what we believe about them...anyhow
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78465026


Sadly that is the case with most people. Churches pick and choose because that is how they build a loyal fan base and it also avoids the unwashed masses from asking too many questions about clear and apparent contradictions.

G-d does love most; I can't speak for him, but I'm sure he draws a line eventually.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


hmm I hope there is a line seeing hoe bad we have made this world at same time I dearly want my loved ones to be on the right side of it as well as all the children led astray
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G-d is most merciful and just. His ways and thoughts are above ours. It really does come down to the 'Golden Rule'.
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Lutheran- Martin Luther. Antisemite.

Lutheran pastor given power to forgive in place of Jesus.

Revelation is not read by most Lutherans.

They busy hating on the chosen.
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What you do not want is an open market for justice or notions of rights to appeal to. And you can't even stop the bad apples in your midst if they have done favors for the right people. Why bother?
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Please don't speak for me when I am capable of speaking for myself. We, as Torah Observant J-ws, are in full favoure of Courts that uphold justice as laid out by G-d in the Torah.

If I had the power, trust me, I'd stop every single one of them. If I were the Pope I'd hang every last diddler in St. Peters square. If I were the President of Any Nation I'd line the streets of the capital with heads on pikes.

Thankfully the Torah outlines the proper punishment and my human side would be constrained and my fleshly desires of gory public retribution would be kept in check.
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You can't even go to Gentile courts when the assailant is too powerful to touch! A man is allowed to hold his wife hostage by threatening to make her children mamzers, and the Beis Din backs him. You respect faces in judgment, which the Torah forbids, so why do you pretend that it has any bearing on justice or how you act? It is a closed system, which labels people who disagree with it as heretics and allows the community to vent its malice on them. You can't be trusted on anything, and none of you are the individuals you claim to be.
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Oh my, I'm trying to have an honest conversation with you and you keep generalizing. You have a very strange view of us. Don't you think that if all that were true people would just walk away? People walk away from things all the time that they don't agree with. We don't lack free will.
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You only appeared after the 'gibborim' appeared to work me over. They deserve to die, and you are ineffective at stopping their behavior. If I am threatened on every level for attempting to walk away, then why wouldn't that be the case universally? The majority of Americans are Reform in lieu of walking away, but Chabad sends its literature into the synagogues, and gradually the service is Hebrew again, the tallis reappears, and vocal support of Zionism becomes preeminent. There is no point in finding a 'happy place,' as whatever it is will be twisted into the same disgusting moral shell-game that everyone is already comfortable with.
Making everyone's day a bit more surreal.
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You understand the concept of mesirah better.
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There are bad apples in every bushel, regardless of whether the apple is green, red, Cortland, Fiji, Empire, etc.

You are all over the place. Are you okay?
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Sadly bad apples/potatoes beget more of the same unless you remove them from the "infected" bushel...even so the bad in the fruit can be parred away and if done in time you still have enough to be of good use. Even when it is beyond any real salvaging there are the seeds inside that can bring forth much good fruit later
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What a pragmatic view of humanity. Just like gold teeth can be pried out of the corpses of inferior races, right?
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say what? I think you misread what I meant. I have to say it stuck me a minute ago you come across as someone who is high up in this world. Like you are a creator who has been sickened by his creation and plans on killing every last one of us for our beliefs and actions we say/do in his/her name and yet even so you WANT to be proven right one more time before going through with the SNAP of your Fingers. That no matter how many of us are TRYING to do/be good nothing we can say or do will change your mid from the course you have set before you? Are you a killer? Have you done wrong? What is YOUR End Game? I just want a good world not there is still some of that out there but we are about to lose what little there is as we debate it on here and do NOTHING out there.
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Jesus is love. Jesus is vengeance.

AC fakes the love just like everyone at work. Lol

You won’t see the vengeance side of Jesus unless you take the mark or are aware that the “day of the lord “ is free reign for Satan. All outlined in revelation.
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Salvation is individual. Church is a group thing. Don’t want it or need it.



4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
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Baptiste

My favorite stupid lie. Lol. The rapture.

God gonna rapture his best teachers at the same time he sends 144,000 to enlighten his 1/3 Remnant in Israel. Lol lol lol lol
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It isn't for everyone and we don't expect everyone to want to adhere to the 613 Commandments. Living by the 7 Noahide Laws are great for the majority!
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Except those 7 make their ancestral gods idolatry to be destroyed. But child molesters are exempt on pain of banishing informers from these 'man-made' and 'luciferian' laws.
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Ancestral gods are idols and not the one G-d. Logically there can only be one G-d, not many because then they wouldn't actually be all powerful givers/sustainers/takers of life.

Child molestation of any kind is not permitted. I hate to ask this, but are you an adult sufferer? I'm terribly sorry for the pain you must be feeling if you are.
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What you do not want is an open market for justice or notions of rights to appeal to. And you can't even stop the bad apples in your midst if they have done favors for the right people. Why bother?
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why bother...I am sad to think that is humanities motto now. If you do not wish to bother for yourself then you should bother for your loved ones (I hope you have those) um...I think the three or so of us discuss and rant at the same thing society and yet we do it from different viewpoints/upbringing/beliefs yet we all want the world to be good whether it is as God intended or what we dearly hope it can still become
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Please don't speak for me when I am capable of speaking for myself. We, as Torah Observant J-ws, are in full favoure of Courts that uphold justice as laid out by G-d in the Torah.

If I had the power, trust me, I'd stop every single one of them. If I were the Pope I'd hang every last diddler in St. Peters square. If I were the President of Any Nation I'd line the streets of the capital with heads on pikes.

Thankfully the Torah outlines the proper punishment and my human side would be constrained and my fleshly desires of gory public retribution would be kept in check.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


You can't even go to Gentile courts when the assailant is too powerful to touch! A man is allowed to hold his wife hostage by threatening to make her children mamzers, and the Beis Din backs him. You respect faces in judgment, which the Torah forbids, so why do you pretend that it has any bearing on justice or how you act? It is a closed system, which labels people who disagree with it as heretics and allows the community to vent its malice on them. You can't be trusted on anything, and none of you are the individuals you claim to be.
 Quoting: Mr. Robot


Oh my, I'm trying to have an honest conversation with you and you keep generalizing. You have a very strange view of us. Don't you think that if all that were true people would just walk away? People walk away from things all the time that they don't agree with. We don't lack free will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


You only appeared after the 'gibborim' appeared to work me over. They deserve to die, and you are ineffective at stopping their behavior. If I am threatened on every level for attempting to walk away, then why wouldn't that be the case universally? The majority of Americans are Reform in lieu of walking away, but Chabad sends its literature into the synagogues, and gradually the service is Hebrew again, the tallis reappears, and vocal support of Zionism becomes preeminent. There is no point in finding a 'happy place,' as whatever it is will be twisted into the same disgusting moral shell-game that everyone is already comfortable with.
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Sadly you have a very disturbing view of how J-ws operate and a gross misunderstanding of our laws. Most people go to the Synagogue that they feel most comfortable it. Most secular J-ws never become observant and they are gone with a generation or two. Chabad isn't all powerful, but a deeply spiritual way of understanding for the masses. Of the J-w's that do attend service it's basically a 3 way tie between Orthodox, Conservation, and Reform/Reconstruction.
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Except those 7 make their ancestral gods idolatry to be destroyed. But child molesters are exempt on pain of banishing informers from these 'man-made' and 'luciferian' laws.
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Ancestral gods are idols and not the one G-d. Logically there can only be one G-d, not many because then they wouldn't actually be all powerful givers/sustainers/takers of life.

Child molestation of any kind is not permitted. I hate to ask this, but are you an adult sufferer? I'm terribly sorry for the pain you must be feeling if you are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


What you do not want is an open market for justice or notions of rights to appeal to. And you can't even stop the bad apples in your midst if they have done favors for the right people. Why bother?
 Quoting: Mr. Robot


Please don't speak for me when I am capable of speaking for myself. We, as Torah Observant J-ws, are in full favoure of Courts that uphold justice as laid out by G-d in the Torah.

If I had the power, trust me, I'd stop every single one of them. If I were the Pope I'd hang every last diddler in St. Peters square. If I were the President of Any Nation I'd line the streets of the capital with heads on pikes.

Thankfully the Torah outlines the proper punishment and my human side would be constrained and my fleshly desires of gory public retribution would be kept in check.
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hey I am sure you can hire some folks to get things straightened out in those areas for you





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