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US Manufacturing Plant Supply Chain Issues - Coronavirus

 
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You've clearly never seen one because the little label in side reads PROUDLY MADE IN THE USA. Or, at least it does on the ones that aren't cheap bootlegs.
 Quoting: GSB/LTD


I should hope so.

If the people in his administration and campaign couldn't see the ridiculousness of red MAGA hats having "Made in China" labels, then I bet they'd be the types into "Hope and Change" and "I'm With Her." All while cackling, when realizing the irony of the situtation, "We came, we saw, he got counterfeited."

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found a pussy hat with your name in it at the local yard sale
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They have moved production facilities to other developing counties where Ivanka and Jarred make their garbage to sell to
the retards.

MAGA!
 Quoting: MrReality


Your liberalism is wonderful and beautiful.

Like stepping on a pile of human shit sitting on the sidewalks of wonderful, beautiful liberal San Francisco.

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I think it would take 10 years to tool back up our manufacturing...

Most of the equipment has been shipped to china long ago.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Trinity, I own a small manufacturing company.

When we need to expand production, we add workers and more shifts. That way the same electroplating tanks get used 24X7 instead of just 40 hours. BTW, my workers LOVE overtime and working weekends. Ambitious bunch.

Electroplating is relatively easy to expand just by welding up bigger tanks and adding chemicals. Not rocket science.

BTW, the chem plants in Houston can retool to create just about any chemical stock or organic material from hydrocarbons.

I'll bet that at this moment a bunch of companies in Houston are searching the references for the formulas for common medications and specialty chemicals to create. The value/pound is enormous.

Once I had to buy a special plating chemical from China, the only supplier. They quoted me $45/gram as if it was prime Peruvian!

We can buy quality machine tools, some from here in the USA, some from Europe and Japan. Add machine tools, hoists, heat treat ovens, etc. and you can rapidly build manufacturing.

Of course, older machines can be used as well. You would be surprised at what is in the "bone yards" of various companies. I have a lot of equipment sitting out in my cattle pasture on pallets right now.

My parents were WWII generation. Mom worked almost every day of the war in Houston heat running a milling machine to turn out drill bits for Hughes. She put all her money into war bonds and finished the war as a moderately wealthy woman. She was a high school grad from a small town in Texas. Never learned to drive a car, but she ran a milling machine.

We won WWII on a river of gasoline out of Texas.

Pop joined up in 1941 and became a fighter pilot, later a navigator on bombers.

They survived and had six kids.

By taking extreme precautions, I think we can slow or stop the spread of the virus.

My company will keep turning out parts as long as the workers survive.

Ref security, I have my night shift lock the front gate. All workers know that I have no problem with them being armed even if they don't have a License to Carry.

I have faith in our people and industry.

Prez T can help most by FIRING bureaucrats, e.g., the incompetents at the CDC.
 Quoting: darth

The fish rots from the head down! Trump is the head....warned again 6 weeks ago that all travel stop in America! Did he stop air travel from China? Hell no! He was to worried about his glorious stock market....now he will lose not only that, but what’s left of America’s economy! This virus will either kill, hospitalize, or cause rampant fear in citizens, people will not be working and the Econ will grind to a halt! This event is just starting, covid-19 will last for years and years!
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Trump had no choice stop planes two months ago and kill the economy,or do it now and kill economy
 Quoting: hershy


Could have contained the virus then, but now it’s too late! So don’t misrepresent facts.....he fucked the pooch, just admit it!
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found a pussy hat with your name in it at the local yard sale
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78196739


Those hats are known to sometimes be inscribed with the words, "I'm a Stupid Liberal."

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cannot wait to see all the idiots ammerrykunts so full of shit about how amazing america is to drawn in their debt.

yes bitches because is not like you wont be able to import from china, not that you cannot produce shit without chinese supply but with the dollar collapse you wont be able to buy from no where else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75361432


Nothing will happen. We got Mexico as backup option.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78190461


and if Mexico gets the virus?
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They have moved production facilities to other developing counties where Ivanka and Jarred make their garbage to sell to
the retards.

MAGA!
 Quoting: MrReality


Your liberalism is wonderful and beautiful.

Like stepping on a pile of human shit sitting on the sidewalks of wonderful, beautiful liberal San Francisco.

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 Quoting: CSnow


I am no liberal.

The fact that you say that reveals that you are a retard of no substance to counter with any logic a zombie like the Libs only a different flavour of zombie.

I don't have to step in human shit as Canada unlike the USA is not bankrupt yet and can afford to maintain its infastructure.

Ok retard, now why don't you consider reality.


As holding your breath and spouting Trump will save me s he is better than Clinton or Obama isn't working very well for you, is it, in this 3D where you live?
wmMmw
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We are all going to die, get over it.

We had a great run, now it might be over, nobody will care, just another global reset and the whole shit show starts all over.

If you survive it, you are still going to die.
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They have moved production facilities to other developing counties where Ivanka and Jarred make their garbage to sell to
the retards.

MAGA!
 Quoting: MrReality


Your liberalism is wonderful and beautiful.

Like stepping on a pile of human shit sitting on the sidewalks of wonderful, beautiful liberal San Francisco.

.
 Quoting: CSnow


I am no liberal.

The fact that you say that reveals that you are a retard of no substance to counter with any logic a zombie like the Libs only a different flavour of zombie.

I don't have to step in human shit as Canada unlike the USA is not bankrupt yet and can afford to maintain its infastructure.

Ok retard, now why don't you consider reality.


As holding your breath and spouting Trump will save me s he is better than Clinton or Obama isn't working very well for you, is it, in this 3D where you live?
 Quoting: MrReality


Wow! So many words and yet such little coherance. Kinda' sums up Canada on many levels.

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cannot wait to see all the idiots ammerrykunts so full of shit about how amazing america is to drawn in their debt.

yes bitches because is not like you wont be able to import from china, not that you cannot produce shit without chinese supply but with the dollar collapse you wont be able to buy from no where else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75361432


Nothing will happen. We got Mexico as backup option.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78190461


and if Mexico gets the virus?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78509691


If Mexico gets the virus, I can imagine one if two scenarios. #1 - the cartels section off the country, and it goes back to the feudal system, with each cartel chief being the king of that area.

Scenario 2- the US moves in and annexes Mexico, to prevent #2 from happening.

Scanrio 3 - Russia, China or another country moves in and takes over Mexico, in a first strike against the US.

Scenario 4- everyone in the world is so busy trying to save themselves, that everybody will be too busy to fight.

What happened back during the dark ages when the plague was going on? Were there wars, or did everyone leave everyone else alone? Any historians on here?
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cannot wait to see all the idiots ammerrykunts so full of shit about how amazing america is to drawn in their debt.

yes bitches because is not like you wont be able to import from china, not that you cannot produce shit without chinese supply but with the dollar collapse you wont be able to buy from no where else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75361432


Nothing will happen. We got Mexico as backup option.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78190461


and if Mexico gets the virus?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78509691


If Mexico gets the virus, I can imagine one of four scenarios. #1 - the cartels section off the country, and it goes back to the feudal system, with each cartel chief being the king of that area.

Scenario 2- the US moves in and annexes Mexico, to prevent #1 from happening.

Scenrio 3 - Russia, China or another country moves in and takes over Mexico, in a first strike against the US.

Scenario 4- everyone in the world is so busy trying to save themselves, that everybody will be too busy to fight.

What happened back during the dark ages when the plague was going on? Were there wars, or did everyone leave everyone else alone? Any historians on here?
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cannot wait to see all the idiots ammerrykunts so full of shit about how amazing america is to drawn in their debt.

yes bitches because is not like you wont be able to import from china, not that you cannot produce shit without chinese supply but with the dollar collapse you wont be able to buy from no where else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75361432


Nothing will happen. We got Mexico as backup option.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78190461


I hear their manufacturing is not as good as China. They are not as strict.
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cannot wait to see all the idiots ammerrykunts so full of shit about how amazing america is to drawn in their debt.

yes bitches because is not like you wont be able to import from china, not that you cannot produce shit without chinese supply but with the dollar collapse you wont be able to buy from no where else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75361432


Nothing will happen. We got Mexico as backup option.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78190461


and if Mexico gets the virus?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78509691


If Mexico gets the virus, I can imagine one if two scenarios. #1 - the cartels section off the country, and it goes back to the feudal system, with each cartel chief being the king of that area.

Scenario 2- the US moves in and annexes Mexico, to prevent #2 from happening.

Scanrio 3 - Russia, China or another country moves in and takes over Mexico, in a first strike against the US.

Scenario 4- everyone in the world is so busy trying to save themselves, that everybody will be too busy to fight.

What happened back during the dark ages when the plague was going on? Were there wars, or did everyone leave everyone else alone? Any historians on here?
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hear i bee whats your orders sore?
CSnow

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I am no liberal.

The fact that you say that reveals that you are a retard of no substance to counter with any logic a zombie like the Libs only a different flavour of zombie.
 Quoting: MrReality


I like viewing people's GLP karma readout to see what they're possibly all about.

Why do so many of you on the left often try to conceal your left-leaning biases and compulsions?

What are you embarrassed about?

I admit I'm a conservative, a rightwinger. That's just the way it is. I don't pretend to be apolitical, a "centrist" or certainly a closeted liberal.

By contrast, why do you treat your liberalism as though it's a case of bad breath or body odor?

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What about the made in China MAGA hats? Does Trump have a strategic supply in reserve???
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putin
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Exactly, the new KAG hats are where it’s at
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MrReality

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They have moved production facilities to other developing counties where Ivanka and Jarred make their garbage to sell to
the retards.

MAGA!
 Quoting: MrReality


Your liberalism is wonderful and beautiful.

Like stepping on a pile of human shit sitting on the sidewalks of wonderful, beautiful liberal San Francisco.

.
 Quoting: CSnow


I am no liberal.

The fact that you say that reveals that you are a retard of no substance to counter with any logic a zombie like the Libs only a different flavour of zombie.

I don't have to step in human shit as Canada unlike the USA is not bankrupt yet and can afford to maintain its infastructure.

Ok retard, now why don't you consider reality.


As holding your breath and spouting Trump will save me s he is better than Clinton or Obama isn't working very well for you, is it, in this 3D where you live?
 Quoting: MrReality


Wow! So many words and yet such little coherance. Kinda' sums up Canada on many levels.
 Quoting: GSB/LTD


What do you not understand ? Basically If Trump cared he would not support China in his business and lie about it to you... right. Like if he followed Jesus he would not own casinos to steal money and encourage a gambling addiction right ?

Do you wish to discuss this logically or just leave a verbal meme ?
wmMmw
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If Mexico gets the virus, I can imagine one if two scenarios. #1 - the cartels section off the country, and it goes back to the feudal system, with each cartel chief being the king of that area.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74520404


For all intents and purposes, Mexico is somewhat like that right now. That country's version of the US's Democrat Party has been dominant in Mexican politics for over 90 years. Think of the US if nothing but an endless round of Baracks, Hillarys, Bidens and Bernies had been in the presidency.

The stuff of nightmares.

However, all the liberalism in Mexico has managed to make it a wonderful, beautiful society, with low crime rates, little corruption, little misery, little despair.

Sociopolitical liberalism tends to make people and places wonderful and beautiful.

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Work in the manufacturing Industry. We have machines from US Germany & Italy. We’ll find out soon enough how many of the machines small components are from China. None of the manufacturing materials are Chinese. The biggest threat will be quarantine if it gets to that.
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What do you not understand ? Basically If Trump cared he would not support China in his business and lie about it to you... right. Like if he followed Jesus he would not own casinos to steal money and encourage a gambling addiction right ?

Do you wish to discuss this logically or just leave a verbal meme ?
 Quoting: MrReality


Interesting how any person's weakest aspects tend to be rooted in his or her liberal/leftwing/progressive side. What you point out about Trump can't be described as a sociopolitically conservative/rightwing mindset.

So how come you tend to have a soft spot in your heart for flat-out, outright, maybe even fully flaming liberals?

What the hell is that all about?

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I am no liberal.

The fact that you say that reveals that you are a retard of no substance to counter with any logic a zombie like the Libs only a different flavour of zombie.
 Quoting: MrReality


I like viewing people's GLP karma readout to see what they're possibly all about.

Why do so many of you on the left often try to conceal your left-leaning biases and compulsions?

What are you embarrassed about?

I admit I'm a conservative, a rightwinger. That's just the way it is. I don't pretend to be apolitical, a "centrist" or certainly a closeted liberal.

By contrast, why do you treat your liberalism as though it's a case of bad breath or body odor?

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 Quoting: CSnow


If I don't drink the Trump juice then I must be a liberal right ? This makes no sense.


Why does/ did Trump support the USA and manufactures support Chinese manufacturing ?

That's the point why are you attempting to shill this over ?


If I am wrong explain to me how and if it makes sense I will say I didn't realize that thank you for giving me data I didn't consider, unless I was a retard then I would do what you did . Right ?
wmMmw
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They have moved production facilities to other developing counties where Ivanka and Jarred make their garbage to sell to
the retards.

MAGA!
 Quoting: MrReality


Your liberalism is wonderful and beautiful.

Like stepping on a pile of human shit sitting on the sidewalks of wonderful, beautiful liberal San Francisco.

.
 Quoting: CSnow


I am no liberal.

The fact that you say that reveals that you are a retard of no substance to counter with any logic a zombie like the Libs only a different flavour of zombie.

I don't have to step in human shit as Canada unlike the USA is not bankrupt yet and can afford to maintain its infastructure.

Ok retard, now why don't you consider reality.


As holding your breath and spouting Trump will save me s he is better than Clinton or Obama isn't working very well for you, is it, in this 3D where you live?
 Quoting: MrReality


bump
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I am no liberal.

The fact that you say that reveals that you are a retard of no substance to counter with any logic a zombie like the Libs only a different flavour of zombie.
 Quoting: MrReality


I like viewing people's GLP karma readout to see what they're possibly all about.

Why do so many of you on the left often try to conceal your left-leaning biases and compulsions?

What are you embarrassed about?

I admit I'm a conservative, a rightwinger. That's just the way it is. I don't pretend to be apolitical, a "centrist" or certainly a closeted liberal.

By contrast, why do you treat your liberalism as though it's a case of bad breath or body odor?

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 Quoting: CSnow




whateverbsflagwhatever
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What do you not understand ? Basically If Trump cared he would not support China in his business and lie about it to you... right. Like if he followed Jesus he would not own casinos to steal money and encourage a gambling addiction right ?

Do you wish to discuss this logically or just leave a verbal meme ?
 Quoting: MrReality


Interesting how any person's weakest aspects tend to be rooted in his or her liberal/leftwing/progressive side. What you point out about Trump can't be described as a sociopolitically conservative/rightwing mindset.

So how come you tend to have a soft spot in your heart for flat-out, outright, maybe even fully flaming liberals?

What the hell is that all about?

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 Quoting: CSnow


Again you are shilling rather than discuss the subject at hand.

Show me one instance where I posted one liberal comment,
as I have not.

And honestly even though I greatly differ in my understanding compared to libs and or those that are LTGBQ I can easily tolerate those that are open to discussion as there is room for agreement in logic as there is hope that reason can convince them of the truth and they might be saved, as if I am in the wrong there is hope of my evolution towards truth.

Those that are zombies are lost and that is the problem with the Trump cultists. They are zombies, not all but most.

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wmMmw
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President Trump gave three years of strong advice on this. He warned about relying on China for all these goods instead of doing the hard work here, having some pride in ourselves, and supplying our own needs.
 Quoting: Freckle Face


That is why he gave foreign business million dollar contract for face masks?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78179084


If you know the future, you use all capacity to build up a surplus.

Lookinglass much?
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Again you are shilling rather than discuss the subject at hand.

Show me one instance where I posted one liberal comment,
as I have not.
 Quoting: MrReality


You didn't describe what you consider your sociopolitical orientation to be all about.

I've described myself as a sociopolitical conservative, a rightwinger, a rightist.

In your case?


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yup

THIS is the real doom...

If the virus doesn't get you society collapsing will...

damned
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Wouldnt this be an opportunity for USA to fill in some of the gaps... Ie expand manufacturing to cover shortfall?? Any country NOW would be able to cash in to some extent?? Of course prices would go up!!
 Quoting: Cynical Realist


I think it would take 10 years to tool back up our manufacturing...

Most of the equipment has been shipped to china long ago.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


ten years?? Where did that come from?

Obviously, building a car plant takes longer than an injection molding facility, but i set one of those up in under 6 months.

When there is a fuckup of this magnitude, it really doesn't matter how long it takes. The important thing is to start
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Another factor in setting up a major manufacturing facility is in satisfying needless -and endless- federal regulations. The same regs that Trump has been trying to abolish for the past three years. Think he won't knock down a shitload of those as needed?
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It will dislocate the economy. They will get it going again. It's happened before. Life goes on. The Corona Virus ain't "The Stand".johnny
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There are no more masks available in Canada the hardware store man told me I today and some folks are modifying furnace filters. He said their stock on merchandise is OK but the corporate warehouse might be running out, he didn't know.
wmMmw
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President Trump gave three years of strong advice on this. He warned about relying on China for all these goods instead of doing the hard work here, having some pride in ourselves, and supplying our own needs.
 Quoting: Freckle Face


bump
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Your liberalism is wonderful and beautiful.

Like stepping on a pile of human shit sitting on the sidewalks of wonderful, beautiful liberal San Francisco.

.
 Quoting: CSnow


I am no liberal.

The fact that you say that reveals that you are a retard of no substance to counter with any logic a zombie like the Libs only a different flavour of zombie.

I don't have to step in human shit as Canada unlike the USA is not bankrupt yet and can afford to maintain its infastructure.

Ok retard, now why don't you consider reality.


As holding your breath and spouting Trump will save me s he is better than Clinton or Obama isn't working very well for you, is it, in this 3D where you live?
 Quoting: MrReality


Wow! So many words and yet such little coherance. Kinda' sums up Canada on many levels.
 Quoting: GSB/LTD


What do you not understand ? Basically If Trump cared he would not support China in his business and lie about it to you... right. Like if he followed Jesus he would not own casinos to steal money and encourage a gambling addiction right ?

Do you wish to discuss this logically or just leave a verbal meme ?
 Quoting: MrReality


Here's ONE thing I understand, Sport: your reality is another man's fantasy. In the "real" world, there are gears within gears within gears within gears and unless they all mesh the entire system grinds to a halt.

Saying that he "lied to us" are just empty words unless you can prove it and I'm sure I'm not the only one who would find it enjoyable to see you try to do just that.

Suggesting that President Trump magically knew about this impending crisis when he brokered those Chinese trade agreements is simply ludicrous but still somehow cemented in a superior mind like you imagine your own to be. At least our leader has tried for the past three years to make our country self-sustaining - what's your own pretty-boy Justine done for YOU?

So, answer this: how many Chinese imports are floating around Canada right now and what makes you think for one second that your own nation won't shutter factories?

You're pretty arrogant coming from such a huge landmass that somehow has never been considered a super power... but then, you ARE Canadian and can do no wrong, RIGHT?

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Again you are shilling rather than discuss the subject at hand.

Show me one instance where I posted one liberal comment,
as I have not.
 Quoting: MrReality


You didn't describe what you consider your sociopolitical orientation to be all about.

I've described myself as a sociopolitical conservative, a rightwinger, a rightist.

In your case?


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 Quoting: CSnow


Listen I am Russian Canadian. I know of no deviants or libs in our community of thousands of people. I have voted conservative and farmed my whole life. I think women should wear skirts and be mothers, when not working or exercising etc. Liberalism is a mental disorder like those born one sex that think they are another as those that enable them.

So rather than have a conversation about facts,
you wish to erail discussing how you identify as,

ANTIFAfaglike.

So stop derailing.
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