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Christians! Get Ready For A Culture Shock - You Will Celebrate Sabbath, New Moon And The Festivals After Jesus The Messiah Returns

 
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Christians! Get Ready For A Culture Shock - You Will Celebrate Sabbath, New Moon And The Festivals After Jesus The Messiah Returns

Here are some of the scriptures which show this:


Zechariah 14:3-4;12-19

3 Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights in the day of battle. 4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.

12 This is the plague with which the LORD will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths. 13 On that day men will be stricken by the LORD with great panic. Each man will seize the hand of another, and they will attack each other. 14 Judah too will fight at Jerusalem. The wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected—great quantities of gold and silver and clothing. 15 A similar plague will strike the horses and mules, the camels and donkeys, and all the animals in those camps.

16 Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. 17 If any of the peoples of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, they will have no rain. 18 If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The LORD [d] will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. 19 This will be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.



Isaiah 66:22-24

22 "As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me," declares the LORD, "so will your name and descendants endure. 23 From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me," says the LORD. 24 "And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind."

Ezekiel 46:1-3

1 " 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: The gate of the inner court facing east is to be shut on the six working days, but on the Sabbath day and on the day of the New Moon it is to be opened. 2 The prince is to enter from the outside through the portico of the gateway and stand by the gatepost. The priests are to sacrifice his burnt offering and his fellowship offerings. [a] He is to worship at the threshold of the gateway and then go out, but the gate will not be shut until evening. 3 On the Sabbaths and New Moons the people of the land are to worship in the presence of the LORD at the entrance to that gateway.

Ezekiel 45:17

17 It will be the duty of the prince to provide the burnt offerings, grain offerings and drink offerings at the festivals, the New Moons and the Sabbaths—at all the appointed feasts of the house of Israel. He will provide the sin offerings, grain offerings, burnt offerings and fellowship offerings to make atonement for the house of Israel.

Ezekiel 45:21

21 " 'In the first month on the fourteenth day you are to observe the Passover, a feast lasting seven days, during which you shall eat bread made without yeast.


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We're gonna face a little culture shock long before then, I think. . .
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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really now! i thought that the world was going to end and that all the christians were going to be "raptured" up to heaven when "jesus the messiah" comes back.

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really now! i thought that the world was going to end and that all the christians were going to be "raptured" up to heaven when "jesus the messiah" comes back.

iamwith
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Well, let's go to the back of the Book and see what it says.

Revelation 20:1-6

1And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.
4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.



Hmmmmmmm.........Yup! Christ reigns for 1000 years here on earth after He comes back.
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We're gonna face a little culture shock long before then, I think. . .
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Agreed....
i love satan
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really now! i thought that the world was going to end and that all the christians were going to be "raptured" up to heaven when "jesus the messiah" comes back.

iamwith



Well, let's go to the back of the Book and see what it says.

Revelation 20:1-6

1And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.
4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.



Hmmmmmmm.........Yup! Christ reigns for 1000 years here on earth after He comes back.
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are you saying that the devil is a dragon? how is the dragon going to live in a sealed pit for a thousand years, who is going to feed it? who is going to let the dragon out, and why?
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you just dont seem to get this is talking abuot the past.


try understanding this isnt the first time we are this advanced.
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(LAUGHS)

ANYONE WITH A FARMERS ALMANAC OR PAGAN CALENDAR HAS BEEN LIVING THEIR LIFE ACCORDING TO THE COSMIC WHEEL FOR YEARS

SINCE AGE 12 OR SO IN MY CASE

SOLSTICES, ECLIPSES, FEAST DAYS THAT COINCIDED W/HARVESTS

TO BE TRULY MODERN, YOU JUST BECOME VERY ANCIENT.

THAT'S THE SECRET

SIMPLIFY LIKE BUDDHISTS, AND FOLLOW THE LIGHT. NO BID DEAL
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""Christians! Get Ready For A Culture Shock - You Will Celebrate Sabbath, New Moon And The Festivals After Jesus The Messiah Returns

Here are some of the scriptures which show this:""


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Quoting scriptures out of context does not prove anything.

It will be a new heaven and a new earth - the old rules will not apply.
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""Christians! Get Ready For A Culture Shock - You Will Celebrate Sabbath, New Moon And The Festivals After Jesus The Messiah Returns

Here are some of the scriptures which show this:""


Preacher

Quoting scriptures out of context does not prove anything.

It will be a new heaven and a new earth - the old rules will not apply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 286265


6265

Colossians 2:16-17, "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ."

Which are a shadow of things to come;

A good millenium study site:
[link to www.geocities.com]

In addition, this does not change God's standard of Salvation.

Believe on The lord Jesus Christ and
you will be saved.
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Jesus is all of those feasts
so, we celebrate by being with Him
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you would probably reject me.
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Jesus is all of those feasts
so, we celebrate by being with Him
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These festivals are to be kept for ALL generations. So, when did forever end?
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Here's my understanding of the end-times order of events in general, based on my reading of the Bible:

1. Rapture- of the Christians to heaven to be saved from His wrath to come.
2. 7 yr Tribulation/Daniel's 70th week- God's judgment on earth for those who reject Jesus Christ; His attempt to bring the world back to Him before they are lost forever. Rise of the Antichrist as the global dictator.
3. Battle of Armageddon- where the Antichrist and his armies will fight against Israel and other armies.
4. 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ- to destroy the Antichrist, the false prophet, and all the armies that have attacked Israel and Him. Also the time where Jesus has Satan bound for 1000 yrs. Christians return to earth with Jesus. Only people left on earth are followers of Jesus.
5. Millennial Kingdom of Jesus Christ for 1000 yrs. Restoration of the planet. Christians become priests and rulers on earth. The decimated population rebuilds civilization.
6. Last rebellion on earth- at the end of the Millennial Kingdom; Satan is loosed temporarily and incites the rebellion; Rebellion is squashed by Jesus; but then is thrown into the Lake of Fire and is effectively destroyed forever.
7. Great White Thrown of Judgment- where Jesus judges all who have rejected Him; those who are not saved are thrown into the Lake of Fire forever.
8. Earth is then burned up/purified by fire. New heavens and new earth come into existence. New Jerusalem comes down from heaven to the earth. And we will be with Him forever and ever.

Christians often have differing opinions about interpretations of some of the various details of biblical prophecy, but this is the basic sequence of events that my studies have shown me. And it is in general agreement with many prophecy scholars, such as Walvoord, Ice and others.

This information is found in the Bible, mostly in the books of Revelation and Daniel. www.biblegateway.com

For more detailed information:
[link to www.gotquestions.org]
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forever or should the correct word have been AGE?

An end of an age,,I am asking not telling
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And what do the wise to the Word, wheat have to say about this wonderful info.?

[link to www.israelect.com]
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Christians! Get Ready For A Culture Shock - You Will Celebrate Sabbath, New Moon And The Festivals After Jesus The Messiah Returns

Here are some of the scriptures which show this:


 Quoting: Preacher 209736



A person who totally believes in Jesus Christ as the Saviour will NOT be in shock but TOTAL AWE and experiencing what GOD wants for His people.

The word "culture" is an earthly, "FLESHLY", word the way you have used it.
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forever or should the correct word have been AGE?

An end of an age,,I am asking not telling
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This happens after Jesus returns to set up His Millennial Kingdom:

Zechariah 14:16-19

16 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.
17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, on them there will be no rain.
18 If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the LORD strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

[link to www.biblegateway.com]
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And what do the wise to the Word, wheat have to say about this wonderful info.?

[link to www.israelect.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 286463


It appears that the people at www.israelect.com hold a preterist and anti-Semitic viewpoint. I would would caution anyone to be careful with this as I believe it to be a false doctrine.

Here's more info: [link to www.gotquestions.org]
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We're gonna face a little culture shock long before then, I think. . .


Agreed....
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me too.. I'll bet that the vast majority of "christians" will drop the faith.
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""Christians! Get Ready For A Culture Shock - You Will Celebrate Sabbath, New Moon And The Festivals After Jesus The Messiah Returns

Here are some of the scriptures which show this:""


Preacher

Quoting scriptures out of context does not prove anything.

It will be a new heaven and a new earth - the old rules will not apply.


6265

Colossians 2:16-17, "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ."

Which are a shadow of things to come;

A good millenium study site:
[link to www.geocities.com]

In addition, this does not change God's standard of Salvation.

Believe on The lord Jesus Christ and
you will be saved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 216865



A Christian knows this scripture indeed!! There are those (like the ones in this thread who posted) that just do NOT understand because they know not Jesus Christ as the Saviour!

Colossians 2:16-17, "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ."




Believe on The lord Jesus Christ and
you will be saved.



Believe on The lord Jesus Christ and
you will be saved.



Believe on The lord Jesus Christ and
you will be saved.
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Col.2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.


v16 refers to yearly sabbaths which were a shadow of things to come.
[link to www.amazingfacts.org]

The weekly sabbath is part of the Ten Commandments and they were not nailed to the cross or it would say so.
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And what do the wise to the Word, wheat have to say about this wonderful info.?

[link to www.israelect.com]


It appears that the people at www.israelect.com hold a preterist and anti-Semitic viewpoint. I would would caution anyone to be careful with this as I believe it to be a false doctrine.

Here's more info: [link to www.gotquestions.org]
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it is not anti-semitic to teach truth from the bible.
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""Christians! Get Ready For A Culture Shock - You Will Celebrate Sabbath, New Moon And The Festivals After Jesus The Messiah Returns

Here are some of the scriptures which show this:""


Preacher

Quoting scriptures out of context does not prove anything.

It will be a new heaven and a new earth - the old rules will not apply.


6265

Colossians 2:16-17, "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ."

Which are a shadow of things to come;

A good millenium study site:
[link to www.geocities.com]

In addition, this does not change God's standard of Salvation.

Believe on The lord Jesus Christ and
you will be saved.



A Christian knows this scripture indeed!! There are those (like the ones in this thread who posted) that just do NOT understand because they know not Jesus Christ as the Saviour!

Colossians 2:16-17, "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ."




Believe on The lord Jesus Christ and
you will be saved.



Believe on The lord Jesus Christ and
you will be saved.



Believe on The lord Jesus Christ and
you will be saved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 286548



YES YES YES........we are saved ONLY through the Lord Jesus Christ!

However, how evil are you to question the salvation of people on this thread because they don't agree with your exact interpretation of a few scripture verses.

It is YOU who are not advocating salvation by works.

What we are saying is that, YES, salvation is only through the Lord Jesus Christ. There is NO other way of salvation.

The point of this thread has NOTHING to do with personal salvation.

What it DOES have to do with is that the passages in Zechariah, Ezekiel and Isaiah are very, very clearly after the Messiah returns and sets up His Kingdom. Those passages are super clear that we WILL be celebrating Sabbath, New Moon, Passover and the Feast of Tabernacles once that occurs.

Nobody has even come close to debunking that proposition so far.

So if you want to challenge the scriptural basis for the thread go ahead.

So far nobody has stepped up to the plate.

And you know why?

Because it is true.
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EDIT to the above post:

"It is YOU who are not advocating salvation by works."

should read

"It is YOU who are now advocating salvation by works."
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EDIT to the above post:

"It is YOU who are not advocating salvation by works."

should read

"It is YOU who are now advocating salvation by works."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 273150



Wow!! Just a big WOW because you have no idea or understanding!


Nope, I am not advocating!!!!

Hard talking to someone who doesn't understand!! Just my opinion but............
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Jesus said "til heaven & earth pass away, not on jot, not one tittle will be done away with until ALL is fulfilled".

Part of that fulfillment is Jesus returning to this earth & setting up his kingdom in Jerusalem. (Revelation)

If you claim to live as Jesus did then you'll keep the weekly sabbath, annual sabbaths, new moons & the dietary laws.

These were continued to be kept by the disciples even after Jesus ascended to heaven after his resurrection on a Saturday afternoon. If ANYONE would have known that these were done away with, the disciples would have known. BUT they continued to keep them.

Col. 2:16 - If you keep those day, then don't let anyone hassle you about keeping them. If you don't keep them, then that verse doesn't apply to you. (Just like some of the Torah only applies to men & some of it only applies to women)
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EDIT to the above post:

"It is YOU who are not advocating salvation by works."

should read

"It is YOU who are now advocating salvation by works."



Wow!! Just a big WOW because you have no idea or understanding!


Nope, I am not advocating!!!!

Hard talking to someone who doesn't understand!! Just my opinion but............
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 286548



Well to people that SOUNDS like what you are saying.

It sounds like you are saying this: "Wow you think we should observe the holidays in the Bible! Sinner! We MUST observe the pagan holidays of Easter and Saturnalia (Christmas) and we MUST not observe the holidays in the Scriptures and anyone who says otherwise is OBVIOUSLY not saved!! Rawr!!"

I have news for you:

Salvation is through Jesus the Messiah alone.

I hope you understand that.
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OP

The Lord Jesus will reign in person,
the more often we gather around Him
in ages to come the better. hf

But..we have work to do and we should stick to it.

He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach
the good news to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe
will be condemned.
- Mark 16:15-16

and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached
in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
- Luke 24:47

For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn
the world, but to save the world through him.
- John 3:17

For God so LOVED the world. John 3:16
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OP

The Lord Jesus will reign in person,
the more often we gather around Him
in ages to come the better. hf

But..we have work to do and we should stick to it.

He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach
the good news to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe
will be condemned.
- Mark 16:15-16

and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached
in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
- Luke 24:47

For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn
the world, but to save the world through him.
- John 3:17

For God so LOVED the world. John 3:16
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Now that is something I can agree with!

Good stuff!





GLP