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Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?

 
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Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
When Satan told Eve that she would not die if she ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, was he introducing to her the idea common today of the immortality of the soul?
Eve is tempted by Satan, who speaks through a serpent

Apparently not. The Devil did not tell Eve that if she ate of the fruit forbidden by God, she would only appear to die but an invisible part of her (what some refer to today as an immortal soul) would keep living elsewhere. Speaking through the serpent, Satan claimed that if Eve ate of the fruit of that tree, ‘she certainly would not die’ at all. He implied that she would keep on living, enjoying a better life on earth, a life independent from God.—Gen. 2:17; 3:3-5.

If the false doctrine of the immortality of the soul as taught today did not originate in Eden, when was it conceived? We cannot say for sure. We do know that all false worship was wiped out in the Flood of Noah’s day. No erroneous religious ideas survived the Flood because only Noah and his family—true worshippers—survived.

So in its present form, the teaching of the immortality of the human soul must have come about after the Flood. When God confused the languages at Babel and people were scattered “over the entire face of the earth,” no doubt they carried with them the idea that humans have an immortal soul. (Gen. 11:8, 9) Regardless of when the false concept originated, we can be sure that “the father of the lie,” Satan the Devil, was behind it and was pleased to see it spread widely.—John 8:44.

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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
The embryo is just the manufacture of a transceiver that interacts with the quantum library.
The transceiver is not immortal but the library is.
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The embryo is just the manufacture of a transceiver that interacts with the quantum library.
The transceiver is not immortal but the library is.
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I luv it. Now show me the living 'library'.
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
Everything was created by a grand design. You just can't see the beauty in it.

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I lost my apathy.
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
You were never born, birth is an appearance in consciousness,
this truth is self evident.
There is your perception and there is what is {{perceiving}}
The secret is to realize your perceptions are appearing in what you are.
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low DNA.
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
You were never born, birth is an appearance in consciousness,
this truth is self evident.
There is your perception and there is what is {{perceiving}}
The secret is to realize your perceptions are appearing in what you are.
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
I agree with OP.

Gimme some fractal evidence.
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
Caucasians are obsessed with "immortality" because they know they don't have spirits, they are just the body+ego. Once they die, their ego and soul dissolve away and its as if they never existed. To prevent this, they seek to "reverse aging", live forever, immortality, AI, merging with the machine, etc.
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
bizarre is not the same word as bazarr

two different meaning, OP
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
I think by the age of 7 one can become a time lord and jump dimensions... thats what happened to me.

Every 7 years the body's cells renew, except for neurons i guess...

So by the time you are 7, you arent of the human womb... you are an initate to the mystery school known as life.
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
gnostics know you are in the womb still
knowing this you understand the NATURE of things better
matrix does mean womb
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
You were never born, birth is an appearance in consciousness,
this truth is self evident.
There is your perception and there is what is {{perceiving}}
The secret is to realize your perceptions are appearing in what you are.
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BillyBob her cuzin n yer perceptions is wha happin wen somebody stuck a egg beater in yer ear n scrambled yer brains n ya woulda bin better off never been born than keepin time on the coocoo clock
stoned
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
Caucasians are obsessed with "immortality" because they know they don't have spirits, they are just the body+ego. Once they die, their ego and soul dissolve away and its as if they never existed. To prevent this, they seek to "reverse aging", live forever, immortality, AI, merging with the machine, etc.
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:african:
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
1 Cor 5 5 you must hand such a man over to Satan+ for the destruction of the flesh, so that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord

spirit saved


and there are many more scriptures about the dual nature of man
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
how can you save something if it doesn't exist DGN
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
1 Cor 5 5 you must hand such a man over to Satan+ for the destruction of the flesh, so that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord

spirit saved


and there are many more scriptures about the dual nature of man
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That verse is not about a fallen disciple being saved it's about preserving the purity of the congregation for free flow of the Holy Spirit.
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
You were never born, birth is an appearance in consciousness,
this truth is self evident.
There is your perception and there is what is {{perceiving}}
The secret is to realize your perceptions are appearing in what you are.
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BillyBob her cuzin n yer perceptions is wha happin wen somebody stuck a egg beater in yer ear n scrambled yer brains n ya woulda bin better off never been born than keepin time on the coocoo clock
stoned
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Your existence is an illusion, you claim your body as your own yet you had nothing to do with its creation, you are nothing more than a thought and a fleeting memory.
Your are less than a smudge on the floor LOL
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
You were never born, birth is an appearance in consciousness,
this truth is self evident.
There is your perception and there is what is {{perceiving}}
The secret is to realize your perceptions are appearing in what you are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77326547

BillyBob her cuzin n yer perceptions is wha happin wen somebody stuck a egg beater in yer ear n scrambled yer brains n ya woulda bin better off never been born than keepin time on the coocoo clock
stoned
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Your existence is an illusion, you claim your body as your own yet you had nothing to do with its creation, you are nothing more than a thought and a fleeting memory.
Your are less than a smudge on the floor LOL
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i kaint deny that but one qistin whoz illusion r u
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
how can you save something if it doesn't exist DGN
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I think your not supposed to.
blink
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
1 Cor 5 5 you must hand such a man over to Satan+ for the destruction of the flesh, so that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord

spirit saved


and there are many more scriptures about the dual nature of man
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No there aren't because it's this simple
And to Adam he said: “Because you listened to your wife’s voice and ate from the tree concerning which I gave you this command, ‘You must not eat from it,’ cursed is the ground on your account. In pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life. 18It will grow thorns and thistles for you, and you must eat the vegetation of the field. 19In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.” Ge3:17
The dual nature you speculate on is the forked tongue of the serpent.

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1 Corinthians 2:14
But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised

Job 32:8
"But it is a spirit in man, And the breath of the Almighty gives them understanding

Proverbs 20:27
The spirit of man is the lamp of the LORD, Searching all the innermost parts of his being

Ecclesiastes 12:7
then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
Acts 7:59
They went on stoning Stephen as he called on the Lord and said, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!"
1 Corinthians 2:11
For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God.
1 Corinthians 6:20
For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.
2 Corinthians 4:16
Therefore we do not lose heart, but though our outer man is decaying, yet our inner man is being renewed day by day.
1 Thessalonians 5:23
Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
James 2:26
For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
Zero scriptures speak of afterlife, except for the 144,000 of the first resurrection now serving as assistant kings with Jesus since 1914.Here's why;
"I also said in my heart about the sons of men that the true God will test them and show them that they are like animals, 19for there is an outcome for humans and an outcome for animals; they all have the same outcome. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit. So man has no superiority over animals, for everything is futile. 20All are going to the same place. They all come from the dust, and they all are returning to the dust. 21Who really knows whether the spirit of humans ascends upward, and whether the spirit of animals descends down to the earth? 22And I saw that there is nothing better than for a man to find enjoyment in his work, because that is his reward; for who can enable him to see what will happen after he is gone?" Ecc3:18

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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
Galatians 5:22-23 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law

We all experience some of these fruits anointed or not

if there is fruit there must be a tree

Steven claimed ownership of his spirit

Are you saying Gods spirit breathed into Adam and passed to mankind doesn't survive at the death?

I am not saying that Spirit is conscious after our death

but Im not gonna kill it or say it doesn't exsist
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Numbers 16:22
But Moses and Aaron fell facedown and said, "O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, when one man sins, will You vent Your wrath on the whole congregation?"

Numbers 27:16
"May the LORD, the God of the spirits of all flesh, appoint a man over the congregation

Job 34:14
If He were to set His heart to it and withdraw His Spirit and breath,

Job 34:15
all flesh would perish together and mankind would return to the dust.

Psalm 103:14
For He knows our frame; He is mindful that we are dust.

Psalm 104:29
When You hide Your face, they panic; when You take away their breath, they die and return to dust.

Psalm 146:4
When his spirit departs, he returns to the ground; on that very day his plans perish.
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Galatians 5:22-23 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law

We all experience some of these fruits anointed or not

if there is fruit there must be a tree

Steven claimed ownership of his spirit

Are you saying Gods spirit breathed into Adam and passed to mankind doesn't survive at the death?

I am not saying that Spirit is conscious after our death

but Im not gonna kill it or say it doesn't exsist
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When Stephan was being stoned to death he wasn't claiming he was about to be transformed into a spirit creature and beamed into heaven, he was citing God would remember him in the resurrection in the indefinite future.

God breathed oxygen not a spirit creature into Adam which brought his cells to life by chemical interaction. Cut off oxygen for a few minuets, the brain and cells go flat line and die, the person no longer exists.
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
Galatians 5:22-23 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law

We all experience some of these fruits anointed or not

if there is fruit there must be a tree

Steven claimed ownership of his spirit

Are you saying Gods spirit breathed into Adam and passed to mankind doesn't survive at the death?

I am not saying that Spirit is conscious after our death

but Im not gonna kill it or say it doesn't exsist
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77719831

When Stephan was being stoned to death he wasn't claiming he was about to be transformed into a spirit creature and beamed into heaven, he was citing God would remember him in the resurrection in the indefinite future.

God breathed oxygen not a spirit creature into Adam which brought his cells to life by chemical interaction. Cut off oxygen for a few minuets, the brain and cells go flat line and die, the person no longer exists.
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Luke 8 52Meanwhile, everyone was weeping and mourning for her. But Jesus said, “Stop weeping; she is not dead but asleep.” 53And they laughed at Him, knowing that she was dead. 54But Jesus took her by the hand and called out, “Child, get up!” 55Her spirit returned, and at once she got up. And He directed that she be given something to eat. 56Her parents were astounded, but Jesus ordered them not to tell anyone what had happened

I never claimed Gods Spirit was a creature, transformed, or beamed You are deflecting and not addressing the scriptures I provided

You can call it oxygen if you want I'll stick with the scriptures and the little girl did exist and her personal oxygen did return to her I doubt she was brain dead but we are not told


1 Corinthians 6:19-20 19Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.
Romans 8:9 9You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ



Do you belong to Christ DGN
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…23But a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth, for the Father is seeking such as these to worship Him. 24God is Spirit, and His worshipers must worship Him in spirit and in truth.” 25The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When He comes, He will explain everything to us


DGN God is oxygen? must worship in oxygen?
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Re: Why do people endorse the bizarre theory of immortality knowing no transcending supernatural being is formed in an embryo?
Zero scriptures speak of afterlife, except for the 144,000 of the first resurrection now serving as assistant kings with Jesus since 1914.Here's why;
"I also said in my heart about the sons of men that the true God will test them and show them that they are like animals, 19for there is an outcome for humans and an outcome for animals; they all have the same outcome. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit. So man has no superiority over animals, for everything is futile. 20All are going to the same place. They all come from the dust, and they all are returning to the dust. 21Who really knows whether the spirit of humans ascends upward, and whether the spirit of animals descends down to the earth? 22And I saw that there is nothing better than for a man to find enjoyment in his work, because that is his reward; for who can enable him to see what will happen after he is gone?" Ecc3:18
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OH YEAH : ON THE CROSS Jesus said:
LUKE 23

42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.[a]”

43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”
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/quote]

OH YEAH : ON THE CROSS Jesus said:
LUKE 23

42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.[a]”

43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”



DGN uses the NWT bible the comma is after the word today instead of before which changes the meaning

the greek uses no commas





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