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A Serious Wake Up Call For All Christians.

 
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One of the freakiest scenes that struck me as a child was in Revelation was:

9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. 10 They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” 11 Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters,[e] were killed just as they had been.

That sure does not sound like a pre-trib rapture.
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It's not.
These are the tribulation saints.
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Why could not these be the people raptured right before the end. You do realize time basically stops when we off this planet. Plenty of time for wedding, feast, and prepared to go back down. Always a feast before battle. Jesus had his last supper. I sure he will have another.

What does the Bible say about time in heaven being much much much slower compared to days on earth,
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Christ didn't get a 'get out of jail free' card, so why would we? In history, the Church is at it's most powerful, under persecution.
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You do realize I agree with you and most likely you read the post I made a few weeks ago, regarding this very subject. And how it just doesn’t make sense, many important people before this time have endured wrath. I don’t see nothing that sets us apart from others in the past? Never have done that in my life anyways. We will endure the wrath, spread the gospel, bring people to Jesus and most likely become a martyr for Jesus. So yes rapture happens right before Jesus comes.
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It's not a wake up call for Christians. It's a wake up call for everyone.

Matt 25. ALL have fallen asleep, it is the midnight cry that rang out.

You're either ready or you're not. That's what it says right in there.
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german3 It may be that the Lord will be gracious enough to appear to non Christens (I was fallen away once myself,) but people cannot spread the truth about the Rapture until they become Christians. So like the title of this thread says Christians need to wake up and start doing the Lord's will IE: Spreading the word and helping to save as many souls as possible from going to hell.
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The concise witness of The Born-Again Life:
From Ezekiel ch 36... Do you KNOW This As True In Your Life?

26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


Jesus Says in Matt 7:21 that HE Only KNOWS those who DO The Will Of MY Father.
21. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23. And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

So, Super-Christians who did Miracles, Cast-Out demons, and Prophesied In HIS Name ARE REJECTED! Why? Because they weren't Born-Again... They remained "workers of iniquity" which means they never surrendered their will Unto The Father...


"Marvel not that I Say unto you: Ye MUST Be Born-Again!"
"...No man Cometh Unto The Father but BY ME!"
John 3:7 & John 14:6


The "serious" wake-up call is Written and Witnessed above...


After Rev 14:7 occurs, and ALL Men (living and dead) will HEAR and KNOW that God The Father IS Real and HIS Son Comes in Judgment; The Age Of Faith Will Have Ended!

Then, after; America will be "gone in one hour" from the world table.

Then comes the man-of-sin with his great plan that the world will embrace....



Without your Born-Again Heart, you don't have God The Holy Spirit Within.


You're either With-HIM, or you are apart... That's the tribulation... Suffering, fear, and more suffering.



Maybe Jesus' 1,000 year Reign will enable those who couldn't decide to Come Unto The Father on their own, to Make their surrender in some other way?

I dunno. I don't need to know.

I KNOW I was Born-Again.
I KNOW I died unto self and Was Given Life Everlasting By God The Father!
I KNOW God's Will Is Always Perfect!


There is no pretense for Being Christian.
If you can't=won't Answer God's Call, you are a failed vessel.


Ever done any Miracles, Cast-Out any demons, or Been Given Witness BY God To Prophesy?

Those in Matt 7:22 who Jesus Rejects had...

What they didn't do was Come Unto The Father....


So, Christ Don't KNOW Them...



Think HE's gonna KNOW you?
HE's not.


These ARE The Final Moments.

Time To Tell HIM IF You Would BE HIS!



Maranatha!!!
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I do believe something is going to happen soon, but never never can believe in the Rapture! Think that's a fraud and many people will end up paying with their lives because they have not prepared.
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german5 Well that's your problem, not mine. I've done my duty by warning you. Also you are not making sense, just how is getting right with the Lord while you have still been blessed with a little time a fraud?

Isa 26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
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There is no "getting right with The Lord"...

Matt 7:21-23 shows that, also all the other Witnesses of Rejection.

In Luke 13:22-28, The Father finds someone (a Christian) who has snuck into Heaven. In Matt 22:1-14 it's a wedding crasher. Father Instructs HIS Servants to "Bind him arm and leg and throw him into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth!"

Jesus Witnesses Father's Instructions are the same in each citation. In Luke 13, HE adds something about "the pain of having seen The Prophets and Heaven" and being cast out...

Even MORE Harsh in HIS Witness to Laodicea in Revelation 3:13-17... The lukewarm Laodiceans are "spewn forth from My Mouth" "I would rather you were Hot or cold" Jesus Says to the Laodiceans... Cold because then HE would simply ignore them completely....

The Matt 7:22 Christians were lukewarm... The had done everything but confess their complete Love and Fealty Unto The Father. They didn't find it in their heart to Trust Father with all they were and all they ever would be....

Like Laodiceans, maybe they just never were told....


And yet, Father's Call To Us Was PUT Upon Each Heart...

When you Love somebody, do you have to be told you're supposed to tell them and that your Love is supposed to be full and complete?


The Serious Wake-Up Call Has Been Given... not by some nice looking girl who had a dream...


Every Christian that KNOWS WHO Jesus IS has Received Awareness of The Time from Father-God.

HE Has Been Calling for 16 years.


This IS It! The Time Is NOW! IF you're ever gonna BE HIS.
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There is no "getting right with The Lord"...
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nordicspear Yes there is.

Isa 55:6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
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you Wish you could be that Beautiful Judethz lol Don't get mad at me though I just call it how I see itrofl
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put Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].

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9teen You have still been blessed with a little time, don't waste it

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Come on Judith I did not respond to your thread for no reason.

I know you abandon threads when the critics are overwhelming.

But you have to admit, what I am saying just makes sense. God does not intend to confuse. So why are we confused.

I tell u this. If the peace treaty is signed. And especially if we continue to move forward with nothing happening and anti christ rises up.

Sure as shit will not be confusin* at that point of when the rapture will occur.

We only confused now. Makes you stop and think. Right Judith?
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german7 Yes it does a bit. I'm more confused now than when I read your post.
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Undecided on the rapture pre, mid, or post. I pray He shows mercy to the children and if there's a rapture they go first.
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Eze 13:3 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe unto the foolish prophets, that follow their own spirit, and have seen nothing!
Eze 13:4 O Israel, thy prophets are like the foxes in the deserts.
Eze 13:5 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the LORD.
Eze 13:6 They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The LORD saith: and the LORD hath not sent them: and they have made others to hope that they would confirm the word.
Eze 13:7 Have ye not seen a vain vision, and have ye not spoken a lying divination, whereas ye say, The LORD saith it; albeit I have not spoken?
Eze 13:8 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have spoken vanity, and seen lies, therefore, behold, I am against you, saith the Lord GOD
God hates your rapture lie
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ignorant demon children of the demiurge will be thrown into the outer darkness only gnostics know jesus
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The Black Magician Cult. LOL
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God hates your rapture lie
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judec What "god" are you referring to? I'm speaking the truth even if you cant stand it.
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I pray He shows mercy to the children and if there's a rapture they go first.
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yellowdress So do I.
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I pray He shows mercy to the children and if there's a rapture they go first.
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:yellowdress: So do I.
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I used to be pre-Trib, but these verses clearly show the progression:



Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;



So we see that first comes the falling away from the faith, then the revealing of the A.Christ.

We may be in the falling away right now, but the man of sin has yet to be revealed.

The rapture is pre-Wrath .. just before God pours out His Wrath upon an unbelieving world.

Anything else and one has to play verbal gymnastics with the Word of God to make it work out. Christ has given me a sound mind, so deception .. you can keep it.
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:judethe: The Age of Grace is nearly over

and the time of Jacob's Trouble is about to start. It will no longer be possible to go on blithely about your lives, as if everything is just fine.
The Rapture could happen tomorrow, and if you are left behind then you will be caught up in all the horrors that are about to flood upon the earth. Are you right with the lord? If not then turn to Him now while you are still blessed with a little time. Remember you could be hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be! [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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The Rapture is false.

However, your hair vanity is real, and you will be judged by God for it as a willful disobedience of His Word commanding you not to be vain.

This is why Wimmin are never allowed to teach. No Principled Integrity in them.
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I pray He shows mercy to the children and if there's a rapture they go first.
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:yellowdress: So do I.
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I used to be pre-Trib, but these verses clearly show the progression:



Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;



So we see that first comes the falling away from the faith, then the revealing of the A.Christ.

We may be in the falling away right now, but the man of sin has yet to be revealed.

The rapture is pre-Wrath .. just before God pours out His Wrath upon an unbelieving world.

Anything else and one has to play verbal gymnastics with the Word of God to make it work out. Christ has given me a sound mind, so deception .. you can keep it.
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Here's the biblical pattern:


In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;



You see this? On the same day that Judgement fell upon the world then, it will happen again.

On the same day. Just before God's Wrath is poured.
Actually, 30 minutes before Judgement:



And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.


So the Rapture occurs at the 6th Seal.
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I pray He shows mercy to the children and if there's a rapture they go first.
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:yellowdress: So do I.
 Quoting: Judethz


I used to be pre-Trib, but these verses clearly show the progression:



Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;



So we see that first comes the falling away from the faith, then the revealing of the A.Christ.

We may be in the falling away right now, but the man of sin has yet to be revealed.

The rapture is pre-Wrath .. just before God pours out His Wrath upon an unbelieving world.

Anything else and one has to play verbal gymnastics with the Word of God to make it work out. Christ has given me a sound mind, so deception .. you can keep it.
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Here's the biblical pattern:


In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;



You see this? On the same day that Judgement fell upon the world then, it will happen again.

On the same day. Just before God's Wrath is poured.
Actually, 30 minutes before Judgement:



And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.


So the Rapture occurs at the 6th Seal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


Our Lord reiterated this when He was here:


But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
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The woman in the video sure is tight on her cosmetic convictions.
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One of the freakiest scenes that struck me as a child was in Revelation was:

9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. 10 They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” 11 Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters,[e] were killed just as they had been.

That sure does not sound like a pre-trib rapture.
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It's not.
These are the tribulation saints.
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BOOM....and their ignorance will be their downfall
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Not meaning to discourage peoples faith, but hasn't this 'version' come and gone several times over?

List of end of world rapture like predictions that have come and gone...

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Enjoy life and live with a good heart. Your day will come.
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Enjoy life and live with a good heart. Your day will come.
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german1 I understand where you are coming from, but I'm afraid that it's not so.

Jer 17:9 The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it?

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Good grief. Let's just let God sort this out.
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The more you cling to the notion that you're select or privileged, the more you expose yourself to the very thing that discredits Christianity.
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:judethe: The Age of Grace is nearly over

and the time of Jacob's Trouble is about to start. It will no longer be possible to go on blithely about your lives, as if everything is just fine.
The Rapture could happen tomorrow, and if you are left behind then you will be caught up in all the horrors that are about to flood upon the earth. Are you right with the lord? If not then turn to Him now while you are still blessed with a little time. Remember you could be hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be! [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Pre-tribulation rapture is a pipe dream. God has you on this earth to learn. Do you really think He’s going to spare you from the hardest part of the test?
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He hasn’t done it before. He won’t do it now.
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So yes right before Jesus is sent down, we will be caught up in the air, in the twinkling of an eye. And meet him in the firmament of time and space. What happens next, I assume battle (headed straight back down ) or heaven would be the choice of your destiny,

I still say better safe then sorry and count on it happening at the very end. Just be prepared either way. Is the best advice, you should be given. Because what if what is your wrong. What if?????
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I just don't think God will abandon humanity in it's greatest hour of need! He even says if heaven doesn't intervene, all flesh would be destroyed! He's been warning us about this for thousands of years, no, God would not abandon us.
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He won’t abandon the faithful. But he doesn’t always keep them from tribulation. You might be kept safe but it is never comfortable.
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The truth is we don’t know exactly. I had a dream as a child, just 5. My family and I were in a circle, kneeling. God called out who will come to me? We all looked at each other and no one moved. I finally stepped forward. I understood the price would be physical death. Such a strange dream for a 5 year old. I never told my parents or family about it. I’ve told maybe 5 or 6 people about it. Forgot about it for a long time.

I don’t believe we will be spared suffering and physical death. Hoping for the rapture and to be spared might be In vain. Our work is to tell the good news and show others there is a hope for salvation.
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The truth is we don’t know exactly. I had a dream as a child, just 5. My family and I were in a circle, kneeling. God called out who will come to me? We all looked at each other and no one moved. I finally stepped forward. I understood the price would be physical death. Such a strange dream for a 5 year old. I never told my parents or family about it. I’ve told maybe 5 or 6 people about it. Forgot about it for a long time.

I don’t believe we will be spared suffering and physical death. Hoping for the rapture and to be spared might be In vain. Our work is to tell the good news and show others there is a hope for salvation.
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bridec Perhaps, perhaps not. Non of us knows when the Rapture will take place, but you are wrong about all of us not being spared suffering and death. Countless millions of Christians have died in the Lord having suffered either none or very little suffering. A good example being Lot and his family. (Except his wife.)

Luk 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed [them] all.

Luk 17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Luk 17:31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.

Luk 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.
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judethe The Age of Grace is nearly over

and the time of Jacob's Trouble is about to start. It will no longer be possible to go on blithely about your lives, as if everything is just fine.
The Rapture could happen tomorrow, and if you are left behind then you will be caught up in all the horrors that are about to flood upon the earth. Are you right with the lord? If not then turn to Him now while you are still blessed with a little time. Remember you could be hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be! [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Oh look, someone trying to decipher the bible again into their own words.

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3 Gospel acct's where Jesus states that AFTER tribulation...

Matthew 24

29 Immediately* after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other*.


Mark 13

24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.


Luke 21

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.


Revelation 7

9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.





GLP