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Truth is there is no answer he could give that would be accurate.

They don't know exactly how many people have it or have had it here so there is no way to make an accurate forecast.


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Sorry, but this is a political tool to grandstand.

You call a witness that is tasked with specific responsibilities and then ask them questions outside their specific responsibility.

If Kennedy wanted those numbers, he should have called someone from the CDC, HHS, etc., but he knows that.

Ever hear the phrase, "that is a hypothetical question that calls for speculation".

That's exactly the type of question that Kennedy was asking to a person who is not an expert in viral exposure, the disease, etc.

Homeland would deal with closing points of entry, closing down points of exposure, etc.

But hey, you bought into it hook, line and sinker so the trap worked.
 Quoting: An Average American Patriot


I think the point Kennedy was trying to make, is that as the DHS sec. this guy should be involved and on top of things from a security perspective. He was not being asked anything particularly technical, medically speaking. He was being asked basic numbers, and questions about preparedness. DHS cant just say "oh well thats not my area of expertise, ask someone else". They need to be up to date with at least basic numbers, and apparently this guy didnt bother to do his homework.
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Kennedy was a total tool. He was asking this guy questions that he needed to ask HHS and CDC.

What a douche bag.
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Wrong...this guy "Home Land Security" should have already co-ordinated with the agencies you outlined. And Yes should have known the answers...and Probably did, but could not say.


do we really need to, bring in every agency to be questioned...is no one being briefed to give us answers.

The answer is Yes they know more than they are willing to say at the moment.
 Quoting: Reebl 78211251


No... every agency does not to be brought in--but the CORRECT agency does need to be questioned. NO ONE has released the R0 on this virus. NO ONE knows the actual death rate because China and Iran are lying. NO ONE knows those answers--so how is this guy supposed to know them? Are you a MORAN? Kennedy was grandstanding and GLP used to call this crap out-- instead, they're joining in on the nonsense.
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Truth is there is no answer he could give that would be accurate.

They don't know exactly how many people have it or have had it here so there is no way to make an accurate forecast.


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Sorry, but this is a political tool to grandstand.

You call a witness that is tasked with specific responsibilities and then ask them questions outside their specific responsibility.

If Kennedy wanted those numbers, he should have called someone from the CDC, HHS, etc., but he knows that.

Ever hear the phrase, "that is a hypothetical question that calls for speculation".

That's exactly the type of question that Kennedy was asking to a person who is not an expert in viral exposure, the disease, etc.

Homeland would deal with closing points of entry, closing down points of exposure, etc.

But hey, you bought into it hook, line and sinker so the trap worked.
 Quoting: An Average American Patriot


Exactly. He was asking questions outside of Wolf’s area of expertise.
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 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


I watched it yesterday and still can not get it out of my head. That was an intense very real conversation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78520915


I agree.

This should be enough to at least slightly unsettle anyone. Embedding the video to let more people see it.


 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


OMFG he doesn't know! CHad Wolf, the head of DHS doesn't know anything to Senator Kennedy basic questions about this virus! ANd admitted they don't have enough masks to protect the public and believes they have for his own.

Holee fuck!
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If you're hoping that the Government will take care of you are as stupid as you sound. Kennedy is just another stupid liberal who will grandstand because Orange man bad.
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Sorry, but this is a political tool to grandstand.

You call a witness that is tasked with specific responsibilities and then ask them questions outside their specific responsibility.

If Kennedy wanted those numbers, he should have called someone from the CDC, HHS, etc., but he knows that.

Ever hear the phrase, "that is a hypothetical question that calls for speculation".

That's exactly the type of question that Kennedy was asking to a person who is not an expert in viral exposure, the disease, etc.

Homeland would deal with closing points of entry, closing down points of exposure, etc.

But hey, you bought into it hook, line and sinker so the trap worked.
 Quoting: An Average American Patriot


Exactly. He was asking questions outside of Wolf’s area of expertise.
 Quoting: WTH GLP?


Our Secretary of Homeland Security is an incompetent tard who thinks SARS2 is just like the flu.



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I watched it yesterday and still can not get it out of my head. That was an intense very real conversation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78520915


I agree.

This should be enough to at least slightly unsettle anyone. Embedding the video to let more people see it.


 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


OMFG he doesn't know! CHad Wolf, the head of DHS doesn't know anything to Senator Kennedy basic questions about this virus! ANd admitted they don't have enough masks to protect the public and believes they have for his own.

Holee fuck!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77267803


If you're hoping that the Government will take care of you are as stupid as you sound. Kennedy is just another stupid liberal who will grandstand because Orange man bad.
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Senator Kennedy is a Trump supporting Republican, you fool.
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Sorry, but this is a political tool to grandstand.

You call a witness that is tasked with specific responsibilities and then ask them questions outside their specific responsibility.

If Kennedy wanted those numbers, he should have called someone from the CDC, HHS, etc., but he knows that.

Ever hear the phrase, "that is a hypothetical question that calls for speculation".

That's exactly the type of question that Kennedy was asking to a person who is not an expert in viral exposure, the disease, etc.

Homeland would deal with closing points of entry, closing down points of exposure, etc.

But hey, you bought into it hook, line and sinker so the trap worked.
 Quoting: An Average American Patriot


Exactly. He was asking questions outside of Wolf’s area of expertise.
 Quoting: WTH GLP?


The panicking brianless morans on here don't see that.
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Wolf doesn't know the difference between a respirator (ventilator) and a face mask.
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Kennedy needs to be shown the models our very own GLP member has created! I swear, somebody get him this info! Homeland security just got reamed big time, and Kennedy NEEDS to know a lot more.

I wish I could star this a hundred times
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I watched it yesterday and still can not get it out of my head. That was an intense very real conversation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78520915


I agree.

This should be enough to at least slightly unsettle anyone. Embedding the video to let more people see it.


 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


OMFG he doesn't know! CHad Wolf, the head of DHS doesn't know anything to Senator Kennedy basic questions about this virus! ANd admitted they don't have enough masks to protect the public and believes they have for his own.

Holee fuck!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77267803


If you're hoping that the Government will take care of you are as stupid as you sound. Kennedy is just another stupid liberal who will grandstand because Orange man bad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15796482


NO. I take care of my own and then some.

Since you're to stupid to know Kennedy is a (R-La), I also expect you to be to stupid to know there are disabled, elderly, poor people and children that need govt help in health crises just like welfare for food and housing.

SO GFY ignorant shitclown Chad
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Kinda hard to get numbers on an ever changing psy-op.
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But they're BIG.

Really BIG.

Really REALLY BIG.

Right?
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Thank you op for posting this video. This is such a treasure. SOMEBODY fuggin cares about the American people.
Fantastic questions, and homeland security is apparently being kept "up to date" with cdc, etc. and LIES and/or deciept
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I know a lot more than the head of homeland security,just from reading this forum!
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That's exactly the type of question that Kennedy was asking to a person who is not an expert in viral exposure, the disease, etc.
 Quoting: An Average American Patriot


Sorry, no

Kennedy was all but saying the DHS is useless at protecting anything, and they are

They're a misnamed agency whose only job is to take more freedoms from the People

This showed at the very least that there is a lot of disagreement within the government over this issue and it's getting heated
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78238239




IIRC, the Department of Homeland Security was formed following 9-11, when it was discovered that some Alphabet Agencies had had information that if OTHER Alphabet Agencies had had the same information it might have made a big difference. So the idea behind DHS was that they would filter ALL the information from ALL of the Alphabet Agencies and compile it into a more comprehensive format.

Good concept, but it doesn't seem to be working all that well.

And they've had nearly 20 years to get it right.

No wonder Trump gets so frustrated!
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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I watched it yesterday and still can not get it out of my head. That was an intense very real conversation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78520915


I agree.

This should be enough to at least slightly unsettle anyone. Embedding the video to let more people see it.


 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


I think it’s safe to say that any one of us who has been here for the past month and has studied the details from the experts could do a better job than this clown.

Heck I want to go offer my advice to the town and the police but I don’t want them to label me as the town loony. So people like us can only help ourselves while others in positions of authority have no clue.
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Sorry, but this is a political tool to grandstand.

You call a witness that is tasked with specific responsibilities and then ask them questions outside their specific responsibility.

If Kennedy wanted those numbers, he should have called someone from the CDC, HHS, etc., but he knows that.

Ever hear the phrase, "that is a hypothetical question that calls for speculation".

That's exactly the type of question that Kennedy was asking to a person who is not an expert in viral exposure, the disease, etc.

Homeland would deal with closing points of entry, closing down points of exposure, etc.

But hey, you bought into it hook, line and sinker so the trap worked.
 Quoting: An Average American Patriot


Why do I know those numbers off the top of my head but the guy in charge is off by orders of magnitude?

The questions were fine imho but the false outrage by the senator - who is an md and a Rhodes scholar iirc - was absurd. He voted for the budgets that left cdc unable to operate.
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Cruise "ships", plural???
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Well, yes, haven't you been keeping up? I think that there have been 6 so far which have been diagnosed with the virus which are being denied entries into Ports .

I could be wrong (it's happened once or twice before) but it seems like if a cruise ship has been in that part of the World they are now finding the virus aboard and the passengers are being quarantined.
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Sorry, but this is a political tool to grandstand.

You call a witness that is tasked with specific responsibilities and then ask them questions outside their specific responsibility.

If Kennedy wanted those numbers, he should have called someone from the CDC, HHS, etc., but he knows that.

Ever hear the phrase, "that is a hypothetical question that calls for speculation".

That's exactly the type of question that Kennedy was asking to a person who is not an expert in viral exposure, the disease, etc.

Homeland would deal with closing points of entry, closing down points of exposure, etc.

But hey, you bought into it hook, line and sinker so the trap worked.
 Quoting: An Average American Patriot


He needs to know exactly what's necessary to protect his workers for one

This guy is a moron bureaucrat who goes thru the motions
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I watched it yesterday and still can not get it out of my head. That was an intense very real conversation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78520915


I agree.

This should be enough to at least slightly unsettle anyone. Embedding the video to let more people see it.


 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


OMFG he doesn't know! CHad Wolf, the head of DHS doesn't know anything to Senator Kennedy basic questions about this virus! ANd admitted they don't have enough masks to protect the public and believes they have for his own.

Holee fuck!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77267803


You don't need masks, Trump said you just need to cough into your sleeve and wash your hands to protect yourself from this AIRBORNE VIRUS..

It's a shit show alright and we're all going to suffer because of this unbelievable lack of competence in our government.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Masks so not work.

No mask can stop this virus unless you are in a hazmat suit.
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I watched it yesterday and still can not get it out of my head. That was an intense very real conversation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78520915


I agree.

This should be enough to at least slightly unsettle anyone. Embedding the video to let more people see it.


 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


OMFG he doesn't know! CHad Wolf, the head of DHS doesn't know anything to Senator Kennedy basic questions about this virus! ANd admitted they don't have enough masks to protect the public and believes they have for his own.

Holee fuck!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77267803


If you're hoping that the Government will take care of you are as stupid as you sound. Kennedy is just another stupid liberal who will grandstand because Orange man bad.
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Like many on here, I'm not looking for government to take care of me.

However, since government employees exist, getting their nice salaries and corner offices to do their ever-so-important jobs, I expect them to at least know what they're supposed to be doing.

From the DHS website:

"The Department of Homeland Securityhas a vital mission: to secure the nation from the many threats we face. This requires the dedication of more than 240,000 employees in jobs that range from aviation and border security to emergency response, from cybersecurity analyst to chemical facility inspector. Our duties are wide-ranging, and our goal is clear - keeping America safe."

I would imagine that, in order to do his job, he would need to interface with other governmental departments to get the best possible (and most accurate) information available. Especially before he goes up to the Hill to testify.

That's how I operate in my own, very limited capacity. I'm not responsible for everything that happens in the company for which I work, but I still need to understand how other departments' operations impact, and interface with, my own.
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jesus that was bad.

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I agree.

This should be enough to at least slightly unsettle anyone. Embedding the video to let more people see it.


 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


OMFG he doesn't know! CHad Wolf, the head of DHS doesn't know anything to Senator Kennedy basic questions about this virus! ANd admitted they don't have enough masks to protect the public and believes they have for his own.

Holee fuck!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77267803


If you're hoping that the Government will take care of you are as stupid as you sound. Kennedy is just another stupid liberal who will grandstand because Orange man bad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15796482


Like many on here, I'm not looking for government to take care of me.

However, since government employees exist, getting their nice salaries and corner offices to do their ever-so-important jobs, I expect them to at least know what they're supposed to be doing.

From the DHS website:

"The Department of Homeland Securityhas a vital mission: to secure the nation from the many threats we face. This requires the dedication of more than 240,000 employees in jobs that range from aviation and border security to emergency response, from cybersecurity analyst to chemical facility inspector. Our duties are wide-ranging, and our goal is clear - keeping America safe."

I would imagine that, in order to do his job, he would need to interface with other governmental departments to get the best possible (and most accurate) information available. Especially before he goes up to the Hill to testify.

That's how I operate in my own, very limited capacity. I'm not responsible for everything that happens in the company for which I work, but I still need to understand how other departments' operations impact, and interface with, my own.
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Yep liberty and freedom is what we are supposed to be in this country. BUT why are the useless government workers getting to take so much tax payer money for their fat asses to sit in chairs and make bad decisions for us.Many normal citizens are much more worthy and needed
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If only Hilliary or Bernie were President right now we would all be safe.

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If Hillary or Bernie were President right now we would all be dead.
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I agree.

This should be enough to at least slightly unsettle anyone. Embedding the video to let more people see it.


 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


OMFG he doesn't know! CHad Wolf, the head of DHS doesn't know anything to Senator Kennedy basic questions about this virus! ANd admitted they don't have enough masks to protect the public and believes they have for his own.

Holee fuck!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77267803


You don't need masks, Trump said you just need to cough into your sleeve and wash your hands to protect yourself from this AIRBORNE VIRUS..

It's a shit show alright and we're all going to suffer because of this unbelievable lack of competence in our government.
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Masks so not work.

No mask can stop this virus unless you are in a hazmat suit.
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Nothing of any signifigance has even happened
Really, we've been getting rid of illegals, undesirables and defunding criminals....
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Wow, there was so much more to glean from this when watching the video.

Senator Kennedy was in the classified Senate meeting. Is he always this pale and looks like he has seen a ghost?

He is scared.

He also pointed out that at the time of this hearing, our gov was not planning for us, we are on our own.

Nice to see that Kennedy included the people in his questions regarding safety.





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