no electric, no gas, no cooking? how to cook when TSHTF

Wood, solar? Yes solar, there are many to choose from.

Gas is cool..

Is yours adaptable off the main gas line?..

If you can use just a couple of Rhinos
to cook with..

You have a year..

All oil burns.

Take a skillet with a lid...and a small amount of veggie oil or shortening...twist up small pieces of paper towel as wicks, drop them in the oil and light them.

POOF! Instant burner to cook on.

Use the lid to snuff out the flames when done.

You need propane, or a wood stove as a back up. If SHTF, you know the workers won't be keeping the gas and electric running.

thanks for the input.

what is the mix of food that you can eat raw to food you need to cook? 50/50?

cool, thank you!

Correct.

Research solar ovens and build one now while you still can.

a wood stove isn't possible, but i have a small camping stove that would work. i'm going to see about how i can attach larger tanks to it.

thank

thanks, both of you. new to me. will have a look. i'm handy enough.

I have a straight line from my 100lb propane bottle running right to my kitchen stove...lasts me approx 6 mos per fill up! Costs about $60 for them to come fill it where it sits!

Always have Propane and Propane accessory's!!

Shouldn't be hard..

get a few rolls of heavy duty non stick aluminum foil. u can cook on and in the coals. the non stick really works. I'm not wasting water on cleaning pots and pans. paper plates, bowls, cups and plastic silver ware. burn it all when your done.

Build a rocket stove. If you have trees about anyhow. They run on twigs.

thanks for the tip! worst case, i can rig it up to my camping stove.

currently, not possible, unless i have to bug out to the place in the mountains. thanks though. will check it out.

this is a great survival tip all around. could really come in handy. thank you!

Canned food can be eaten without heating it up.
If you have a garden, you can plant veggies that can be eaten raw.
Raw is very healthy for those things that can be digested raw.
I wouldn't worry about a mix %. Just get and store what you can. Because there's a good chance it won't be enough anyway when your relatives come knocking.
The more renewable food supplies you have (garden, orchard, rabbits, chickens, fish, etc.) the better.


Ways to conserve energy:

Thermos cooker:

In a pot, bring your food to a boil, then immediately pour it into a thermos, the bigger, the better.

Then place that thermos in an insulated environment, such as bundled inside blankets, etc. for several hours.

When you pull it out, the food will be fully cooked.

Homemade solar oven:

Buy a car windshield reflector, or glue alum. foil inside a medium-sized box.

Then buy a clear oven bag that can handle high temps. Get a twist tie or something to close it air tight. The bag must be big enough to fit a small camping cooking pot inside.

Then buy a small camping cooking mess kit or small pot to cook in.

Then buy BBQ grill paint, the black high-temp paint, and paint the cooking pot.

Then set up your reflector to catch the sun and reflect it to a central point you wish to cook at.

Then put your food in the black pot, then put the pot into the oven bag, along with 3 or 4 small rocks under it to elevate it an inch or so above the ground. Then seal the bag with the twist tie to make it airtight. Place it in the center of your reflector. It will get VERY hot inside the pot and cook your food, if you have sufficient sunlight.

But this take awhile. It is a slow cook. And you should adjust the reflector every 30 min. or so to keep the sunlight focused on the pot.

The mechanics behind this are the greenhouse effect inside the clear plastic bag, and the absorption of that by the black paint. It's quite effective.

Of course in the summertime in southern climates your car can augment the bag. Just set your car & windshield toward the sun, and put the bagged black pot on a well-insulated pad on your dash to catch the radiant heat.

But the bag must be air tight. Lose the air 7 you lose the heat.

Homemade Solar Water Heater:

This same concept works for water heaters too. Just scale up the operation and put a black barrel/drum in the center of the 'greenhouse'.

thanks very much for all the tips!

What is a windshield reflector

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Hey yeah..

you need something sustainable and durable

the Lodge hibachi cast iron grill is $90 but it seems like a worthy grill for sure needs

i think they mean one of those things you put on the inside of the windshield to reflect the sun and lessen the greenhouse effect in the car.

basically, it's a big piece of cardboard lined with reflective aluminium-like material.

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they invented this thing called fire

pretty sure my dad or his buddy know the guy who invented that

give this guy a nobel prize for being a fucking moran

I feel for people who buy nothing but dry beans and rice when the utilities (including water) go out.

They're like a person with 100 cans but no can opener.

yeah, that would suck. of course, i have water too.

i was thinking about the big picture while stocking up a bit today.

Biomass stove.

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You can pick up a cheap one for like 30 bucks or go all out on a bigger one.