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I want to add I survived a huge fire in California that had a great loss of life and homes. Very, very few homes in our area survived. We had people coming into our area all hours of the day and night. Took the sheriff over 40 minutes to get here. Let me just say that on the night of the fire we told our neighbors to evacuate early. They basically ignored our warning (they would have had 3 hours to load their vehicles) and ended up leaving a few minutes before we did (with our vehicles packed) and they didn't even have their wallets or photos. When we all returned they basically ignored us. Let that sink in.
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I want to add I survived a huge fire in California that had a great loss of life and homes. Very, very few homes in our area survived. We had people coming into our area all hours of the day and night. Took the sheriff over 40 minutes to get here. Let me just say that on the night of the fire we told our neighbors to evacuate early. They basically ignored our warning (they would have had 3 hours to load their vehicles) and ended up leaving a few minutes before we did (with our vehicles packed) and they didn't even have their wallets or photos. When we all returned they basically ignored us. Let that sink in.
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They're probably ashamed and pissed they didn't act earlier.....
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Buy canned stuff, rice, beans, water or a way to filter water.

Buy stuff you will actually use if this blows over.
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I hate rice and beans. Is flavored water okay?
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There is no hope for you.
Good luck!
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My thinking exactly Swoopster. My Mother-In-Law started the whole "I don't like crackers because they are fattening, I don't like rice, I don't like etc., etc." We told her it's not necessarily about foods you ONLY like, for God sake. It is about survival in case the SHTF. You stock up on not only some foods you like that are sustainable, but ones that are practical and will go the farthest with not only the money you can spend, but will last for months/years. Rice, beans, Spam, lentils, split peas, oats will go a long way and will last a long time. Water is not only to drink but to cook and bathe with as well, brush teeth, etc. He has given up telling her what to get because she will not get out of the mindset that she does not like certain foods that store well. SMH. And, while flavored water is tasty, it won't taste too good to cook with. Get a majority of plain old water. PLEASE.hf
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Preps:

Canned goods, rice and yes Beans.. You might not like them but, it will keep you and yours from starving.

Stock up on toiletries
Batteries
Prescriptions
Make sure you have cat and Dog food for your pets
Water-If you have empty 2 liter soda bottles, we fill them up and store them for Cooking and cleaning water.
Cards, Books, Board games,
First Aid kit.
Salt.
Whiskey and Vodka - Can be used as Antispetic or something to trade/barter with.
Make sure your car is always filled with gas and have a bug out bag in your car in case you need to evacuate on the fly.
Make sure you have some sort of firearm. We have a rifle and hopefully we never have to use it.
A meeting place chosen should you and yours get separated.
We have a portable battery charger which also has electrical ports etc to charge phones.
A Gas powered generator which is full of gas and a back up can of gas.


Basically, make sure you have enough of what you normally use and chose common sense preps and you should be ok...

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We have basically been in survival mode for over two years. We had NO running water for over 100 days and it had contamination for almost a year and a half, so you couldn't drink it. If It really gets to be a SHTF scenario be prepared for accelerated bug and vermin populations because of garbage and environmental changes. Also, you can never have too much water. We still keep refilled one gallon water bottles under the bathroom sinks in case our water goes out (it did several times since the fire) to at least flush our toilets. We took half of our empty water bottles in for recycling and got $132, and we will get more for the rest of them. That gives you an idea of how much water we drank. Being in survival mode can be exhausting and we are older too. Since we prepped for several years the foods we had came in handy. Canned green beans are good but they have very few calories or nutritional value. You are better off with other vegetables. We were eating canned chili, soups, hash, etc. I actually lost 15 pounds because of the change of lifestyle. It is very stressful, believe me. Any questions about surviving please ask.
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We have basically been in survival mode for over two years. We had NO running water for over 100 days and it had contamination for almost a year and a half, so you couldn't drink it. If It really gets to be a SHTF scenario be prepared for accelerated bug and vermin populations because of garbage and environmental changes. Also, you can never have too much water. We still keep refilled one gallon water bottles under the bathroom sinks in case our water goes out (it did several times since the fire) to at least flush our toilets. We took half of our empty water bottles in for recycling and got $132, and we will get more for the rest of them. That gives you an idea of how much water we drank. Being in survival mode can be exhausting and we are older too. Since we prepped for several years the foods we had came in handy. Canned green beans are good but they have very few calories or nutritional value. You are better off with other vegetables. We were eating canned chili, soups, hash, etc. I actually lost 15 pounds because of the change of lifestyle. It is very stressful, believe me. Any questions about surviving please ask.
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This person has firsthand experience.
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I want to add I survived a huge fire in California that had a great loss of life and homes. Very, very few homes in our area survived. We had people coming into our area all hours of the day and night. Took the sheriff over 40 minutes to get here. Let me just say that on the night of the fire we told our neighbors to evacuate early. They basically ignored our warning (they would have had 3 hours to load their vehicles) and ended up leaving a few minutes before we did (with our vehicles packed) and they didn't even have their wallets or photos. When we all returned they basically ignored us. Let that sink in.
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Sorry, forgot to add their house burned and ours didn't. It will be the same with preps. You have what they don't.
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For everybody shitting on beans, keep in mind that they're among the easiest crop to grow and harvest, even the sprouts are good.
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Peas are easy to grow to. Plant every week and you can stagger the crop coming in.
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Thorfire crank flashlight
UV sunglasses
Nalgene steel bottle 38 oz
Firearm
Top grain leather jacket or higher
Bearhard emergency blanket PRO
Bamboo nunchucks (just swing it at their face)
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Bamboo nunchucks (just swing it at their face)
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The odds are higher that I'd rack my own nuts with those...
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Bamboo nunchucks (just swing it at their face)
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The odds are higher that I'd rack my own nuts with those...
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You’re right; everything else I listed is useful though.
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Have a back up meeting place. The first one we were at burned.
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Bamboo nunchucks (just swing it at their face)
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The odds are higher that I'd rack my own nuts with those...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5313197


You’re right; everything else I listed is useful though.
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Oh they're useful if you know how to use them, I don't.
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Don't understand the criticism of posters or their friends for saying that they don't like to eat a standard prep item.

We're all going to be enduring stress. Why not find another shelf stable item to buy which one enjoys eating instead?

I didn't forget to buy dark chocolate to relieve stress and as an occasional treat.

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What's the best way to charge a smart phone if the electricity goes out? (I don't have access to a car.)

Solar charger suggestions on Amazon appreciated.


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What's the best way to charge a smart phone if the electricity goes out? (I don't have access to a car.)

Solar charger suggestions on Amazon appreciated.


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[link to www.amazon.co.uk (secure)]


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sorry wasnt logged in

I brought on of these Xx
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A list my friends and i have been working on. Been passing it out to friends and family that are now asking for prepping info

Pasta -bulk
Rice -bulk
Pasta sauce - bulk
Canned meats, potted meat, tuna, chicken, sardines,
Ham cured
Canned pasta chef boy r d - bulk
Bottled water - bulk
Coffee
Sugar
Flour
Yeast
Cornmeal
Crisco
Aluminum foil
Gatoraid
Canned veggies
Meal kits chicken helper, tuna helper
Peanut butter - bulk
Peanuts other nuts
Seasonings
Crackers
Cookies
Cereals
Dehydrated milk - bulk
Hygene items soap, shampoo, toothpaste
Toilet paper
Corn bread mix. Jiffy
Popcorn

John’s list addition:
antibiotics, vitamins, painkillers, strike anywhere matches, wax candles, flashlights + spare batteries, emergency radio + spare batteries, campstove + fuel, bottled water, sunscreen.

Donnies addition
Have a lot of
red beans and rice mixes
Flavored rice
Mac n cheese
Hamburger helper
Lots of canned tomatoes and
Soup / chili fixing.
Lots of ammo
liquor for medicine and bartering


Medical supplies
Cold and cough
Cough drops
Breathing machine
Musinex. A lot of it
Nose spray extreme congestion
Flu meds
Theraflu
Old rx meds. Raid your cabinets
Vicks rub

A note on items below. These are what works for me for immunity and cold relief. Research, modify as needed.

Vitamin d3
Vitamin c
Elderberry. Gummies, disolvable, or liquid

Oscillococcinum -yes thats spelled right. Get it. If you get a cold you get over it in a couple days. Miracle cold med

Zinc pills swabs spray. This also get you over a cold

Items for general first aid can be added as needed


Additional items below

Items to have on hand:
Generators
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps, Lanterns
6. Camp Stove Fuel – Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice – Beans – Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid
13. Water Containers
14. Mini Heater head (Without this item, propane won’t heat a room.)
15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Lantern Mantles
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Propane Cookstoves
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear / Polypropylene
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk – Powdered & Condensed
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers
34. Coleman’s Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests
45. Workboots, belts, jeans & durable shirts
46. Flashlights, Lightsticks, torches, Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks
48. Garbage cans Plastic
49. Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash, floss
50. Cast iron cookware
Related Article: Best Water Filter Pitchers For Emergency Preparedness
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles…Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Boy Scout Handbook
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
78. “Survival-in-a-Can”
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Reading glasses
81. Window Insulation Kit
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress’s
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Goats/chickens


Here's my personal med plan if I become knowingly exposed or begin presenting symptoms:

1. MMS or CDS, and use it every waking hour

2. Then rotate with taking mega-doses of Vit. C any way I can. (NOT in the same 4 hr time window as the MMS) I'd try to find a naturopath doctor to give me mega-doses in IV form, like 100g-200g/day, and

I'd also begin taking oral Vit. C powder as well, up to my bowel tolerance per day.

3. I'd also be taking mega-doses of Vitamin D3 to try to boost my immune system. (~40,000 iu/day) But I wouldn't take it all the time as taking too much can be harmful.

4. I might take some Zinc lozenges early, as they might also help reduce the severity of the cough symptoms.

5. And I'd order some food grade Hydrogen Peroxide, dilute it to 1.5-3%, put it in a vaporizer, and inhale it deep into my lungs several times a day.

6. Lastly, I'd try to find supplements that can help stop cytokine storms, such as Turmeric, Cayenne, Garlic, Olive Leaf Extract, consuming Apple Cider Vinegar, inhaling filtered & vaporized (or simmering) Apple Cider Vinegar, lightly inhaling vaporized MMS (not overdoing it), and look for other anti-cytokine storm-specific supplements
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That’s so so overwhelming... I don’t like dooms!
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What types of food should I buy?
What else will I need?
Help!
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Canned goods.....buy stuff you will eventually eat when the plague doesn't come.

Soups, chili, things like that. You will need the soups if you get sick anyway.

Then stock up on ALL the over the counter things you would normally buy to get through the flu virus.

Mega doses of vitamin C...NOW!!!

Electrolytes, Nyquil, Vicks, you want a humidifier AND a personal steam inhaler...in case you get sick you can try to keep things from getting worse by doing common sense things.

You are running out of time to buy in bulk on some of these things though..better get to it.
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Hello,

wow so many useful answers!
May I add a question?
If shtf can you still use your mobile? Because if not, for what do need a solar charger?
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Start a garden

potatoes carrots pumpkin are easy to grow and delicious roasted

peas grow quick herbs are ridiculously easy to grow and add flavour to dull or otherwise unappetising foods (like grubs and insects)

plus a garden is a good insurance against raiders

if you have a mountain of dried and canned goods a mob of your "friendly" neighbors can come and take the whole lot away in an instant, gardens are harder to haul away

plus, gardening isn't suspicious, as one poster mentioned if you have goods delivered and aren't clandestine about it, people will notice it and see you as a prepper, ie, a target
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Hello,

wow so many useful answers!
May I add a question?
If shtf can you still use your mobile? Because if not, for what do need a solar charger?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78522793


there's a wonderful utility called "google" where you can type something in, such as "solar charger" and it comes up with a useful list of things such as "solar chargers". give it a whirl!

and no you probably won't be able to use your phone for things like internet or phone calls, but they are wonderful survival devices in their own right -- [link to doomguide.blogspot.com]
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And Forage!
You can't live on meat alone!!!
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THIS.

eattheweeds.com
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hesright
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Wild Edibles has posted some great info over the years.
You'll have to do an advanced search under his username and change the beginning date to 2016.
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I want to add I survived a huge fire in California that had a great loss of life and homes. Very, very few homes in our area survived. We had people coming into our area all hours of the day and night. Took the sheriff over 40 minutes to get here. Let me just say that on the night of the fire we told our neighbors to evacuate early. They basically ignored our warning (they would have had 3 hours to load their vehicles) and ended up leaving a few minutes before we did (with our vehicles packed) and they didn't even have their wallets or photos. When we all returned they basically ignored us. Let that sink in.
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They're probably ashamed and pissed they didn't act earlier.....
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Yup
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AC Australia,

Ordered the solar charger from Amazon as the cheapest way to keep my phone on if I don't have electricity.

You are correct. I prefer my cell to an actual flashlight when power temporarily has gone out. Also get emergency notifications on my smart phone. Many other features too.





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