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This is a thread that was starting back in January. It goes into more detail.


Thread: Email I just sent to my estranged wife regarding Coronavirus. THIS COULD SAVE LIVES...
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Read the link. I am susceptible to idiopathic anaphylaxsis - it just happens with no allergen. Our daughter has the same thing. ER docs have told me to keep Pepcid and Benadryl alone with my epipen with me and with her at all times.

A cytokine storm is a reaction very like anaphylaxsis.
Trust me, you never want to go through it. Buying enough for my family tomorrow even though I am not worried. It never hurts to be safe and both my daughter nad I can use it if there is no pandemic.
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I suffer from something similar and I know what you mean. When I started learning about this virus I got the The importance of preventing a cytokine storm and getting the OTC meds now while you can. The key is to start taking them the minute that you have any kind of flu-like symptoms.

Megadoses of vitamin C will help too.
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Thanks for all the great info, OP!
I have all those items here already. I just had ordered a lot of Benadryl the other day on Amazon.
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OP....I am in remission for Graves. I also get virally induced asthma to some degree with a cold, although no gluten keeps me off steroids.

Is there any hope if I get this? I am sort of mentally preparing to die what with having 2 autoimmune diseases. How much would you take and how often? I have prednisone pills in my stash, I hate being on them but will they stop a cytokine storm?
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Wife, who is a RN, said that yes steroids would help a cytokine storm.
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Thank you so much for asking.

How does a cytokine storm feel? Like you cant breathe? Is there chest pain? Does it happen gradually over days so you know it is coming and can start meds? Much appreciated thread.
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So the home treatment for Covid 19, as I've gathered from GLP, is a PPI, an H1A, H2A, peroxide/nano silver nebulizer and liposomal C?

Okeedokee!
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Inhibition of cytokine secretion from human leukemic mast cells and basophils by H1- and H2-receptor antagonists.

Basically what that means is that they stop the body from going into overdrive and turning on itself.

Mast cells are what cause reactions when you get stung by a bee for example.

Trust me... I know, I am severely allergic to them.

Take it or leave it, but it might just save your life.
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I've wondered what would happen if one took a mast cell inhibitor like nalcrom, in the middle of a coronavirus attack. Would it lead to ones death from deactivating the immune system or would it prevent ones death by deactivating the immune system.
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So the home treatment for Covid 19, as I've gathered from GLP, is a PPI, an H1A, H2A, peroxide/nano silver nebulizer and liposomal C?

Okeedokee!
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And Hydration. Read an account of a patient who is quarantined after being the diamond princess. He said that they kept him constantly hydrated and when his temperature was elevated they gave him ibuprofen. He had a mild case fortunately.
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These are the drugs that will prevent a Cytokine Storm in your body if you get the CV:

Proton Pump Inhibitors: Prilosec

H1 Antagonist: Claritin

H2 Antagonist: Pepcid/Zantac

These might just save your/loved one life.

Cheap and easy to get. Most of the population does not know so they should be easy to find.
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Umm...Zantac was proven to cause cancer in users. There are lawsuits in progress at the moment.
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I suffer from anaphylaxis food reactions and they give me a combo of Benadryl and Pepcid in the ER. It makes sense to me that cytokoine storm would be helped by this combo because both situations are an overreaction of the immune system.
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These are the drugs that will prevent a Cytokine Storm in your body if you get the CV:

Proton Pump Inhibitors: Prilosec

H1 Antagonist: Claritin, Benadryl

H2 Antagonist: Pepcid

These might just save your/loved one life.

Cheap and easy to get. Most of the population does not know so they should be easy to find.
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If one only has Benadryl and Pepcid on hand would that be beneficial or does it need to be all three?
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So the home treatment for Covid 19, as I've gathered from GLP, is a PPI, an H1A, H2A, peroxide/nano silver nebulizer and liposomal C?

Okeedokee!
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And Hydration. Read an account of a patient who is quarantined after being the diamond princess. He said that they kept him constantly hydrated and when his temperature was elevated they gave him ibuprofen. He had a mild case fortunately.
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Said was kept hydrated with Gatorade. Magnesium and potassium supplementation.
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Just get some Skoal or prep with 4mg nicorette like me. If I go more than 48 hours without dip or nicorette I go WWE mode anyway.

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"Nicotine is a nonselective agonist of the α7Ach receptor and is able to suppress the production of proinflammatory cytokines by mimicking the binding of acetylcholine. It has been demonstrated that nicotine can selectively reduce the inflammatory response in a number of infection scenarios, including Legionella pneumophila (54) and Chlamydia pneumoniae (55) infection; however, it is highly unlikely that nicotine will ever be used clinically due to its toxicity, addictive nature, and lack of specificity."
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how do you know this?
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Inhibition of cytokine secretion from human leukemic mast cells and basophils by H1- and H2-receptor antagonists.

Basically what that means is that they stop the body from going into overdrive and turning on itself.

Mast cells are what cause reactions when you get stung by a bee for example.

Trust me... I know, I am severely allergic to them.

Take it or leave it, but it might just save your life.
 Quoting: Debug


I've wondered what would happen if one took a mast cell inhibitor like nalcrom, in the middle of a coronavirus attack. Would it lead to ones death from deactivating the immune system or would it prevent ones death by deactivating the immune system.
 Quoting: ~ CITRONELLA ~


That's a great question. In the case of my wife's GPA/Wegner's, de-activating her immune system is the only thing that keeps her alive.

It's so crazy... Her own body would literally kill itself if left to it's own regard.
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These are the drugs that will prevent a Cytokine Storm in your body if you get the CV:

Proton Pump Inhibitors: Prilosec

H1 Antagonist: Claritin, Benadryl

H2 Antagonist: Pepcid

These might just save your/loved one life.

Cheap and easy to get. Most of the population does not know so they should be easy to find.
 Quoting: Debug


If one only has Benadryl and Pepcid on hand would that be beneficial or does it need to be all three?
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Absolutely those two will help you if that is all you have.

Any one on it's own would help.
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OP....I am in remission for Graves. I also get virally induced asthma to some degree with a cold, although no gluten keeps me off steroids.

Is there any hope if I get this? I am sort of mentally preparing to die what with having 2 autoimmune diseases. How much would you take and how often? I have prednisone pills in my stash, I hate being on them but will they stop a cytokine storm?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75730506


Wife, who is a RN, said that yes steroids would help a cytokine storm.
 Quoting: Debug


Thank you so much for asking.

How does a cytokine storm feel? Like you cant breathe? Is there chest pain? Does it happen gradually over days so you know it is coming and can start meds? Much appreciated thread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75730506


It feels like every system in your body is going crazy at the same time (raging headache, sinuses, digestive system, etc)

Another very seemingly different reaction that can happen is that your body just goes into a kind of a stroke-like response. I was hospitalized last May for what might have looked somewhat like a stroke but it was really a reaction to too much histamine. Dropped my heart rate so low it was crazy. My sister thought I was having a stroke. These cytokine reactions can kill you. And are killing now with this virus a lot of people.

So take this cytokine storm prevention seriously and begin those meds at the first sniffle that you get, the first scratchy throat the first little cough that you get. Honestly if I didn’t suffer from this sort of thing already I would be thinking that this virus is nothing worse than the flu and I wouldn’t understand how life-threatening this can be.
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OP....I am in remission for Graves. I also get virally induced asthma to some degree with a cold, although no gluten keeps me off steroids.

Is there any hope if I get this? I am sort of mentally preparing to die what with having 2 autoimmune diseases. How much would you take and how often? I have prednisone pills in my stash, I hate being on them but will they stop a cytokine storm?
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Wife, who is a RN, said that yes steroids would help a cytokine storm.
 Quoting: Debug


Thank you so much for asking.

How does a cytokine storm feel? Like you cant breathe? Is there chest pain? Does it happen gradually over days so you know it is coming and can start meds? Much appreciated thread.
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I describe it as feeling like you have been poisoned.
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OP - are the generic equivalents ok for those, as long as they have the same active ingredients?

Thanks!
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Yes
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Thank you! And as far as the haters, I don't even know what to say. The information you have provided sounds reasonable to me, and I sincerely appreciate. All the armchair virologists can piss off! Lol

Blessings OP.
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OP....I am in remission for Graves. I also get virally induced asthma to some degree with a cold, although no gluten keeps me off steroids.

Is there any hope if I get this? I am sort of mentally preparing to die what with having 2 autoimmune diseases. How much would you take and how often? I have prednisone pills in my stash, I hate being on them but will they stop a cytokine storm?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75730506


Wife, who is a RN, said that yes steroids would help a cytokine storm.
 Quoting: Debug


Thank you so much for asking.

How does a cytokine storm feel? Like you cant breathe? Is there chest pain? Does it happen gradually over days so you know it is coming and can start meds? Much appreciated thread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75730506


It feels like every system in your body is going crazy at the same time (raging headache, sinuses, digestive system, etc)

Another very seemingly different reaction that can happen is that your body just goes into a kind of a stroke-like response. I was hospitalized last May for what might have looked somewhat like a stroke but it was really a reaction to too much histamine. Dropped my heart rate so low it was crazy. My sister thought I was having a stroke. These cytokine reactions can kill you. And are killing now with this virus a lot of people.

So take this cytokine storm prevention seriously and begin those meds at the first sniffle that you get, the first scratchy throat the first little cough that you get. Honestly if I didn’t suffer from this sort of thing already I would be thinking that this virus is nothing worse than the flu and I wouldn’t understand how life-threatening this can be.
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Thanks so much. I am accumulating meds now. Really appreciate this information.
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Thanks for the info....What could safely be used for kids; 7 years old.
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Thanks for the info....What could safely be used for kids; 7 years old.
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If you cut the Benadryl pill in half that looks to me to be the equivalent of child’s dose. or buy children’s Benadryl. OK to give them vitamin C too.
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Thanks for the info....What could safely be used for kids; 7 years old.
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Yes. I would follow the dosing directions for their age. Or look on the internet.
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Thanks for the info....What could safely be used for kids; 7 years old.
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If you cut the Benadryl pill in half that looks to me to be the equivalent of child’s dose. or buy children’s Benadryl. OK to give them vitamin C too.
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OP - are the generic equivalents ok for those, as long as they have the same active ingredients?

Thanks!
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Yes
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Thank you! And as far as the haters, I don't even know what to say. The information you have provided sounds reasonable to me, and I sincerely appreciate. All the armchair virologists can piss off! Lol

Blessings OP.
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Thank you.
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Good call--and the obvious things like Ibuprofen and Acetaminophen also.

Things that are going, fortunately I got them all last week or earlier:

1. N95 or ANY type of mask. Good luck with that. I acquired 24 of them and a UV-C sterelizer box.

2. Hand sanitizer. Although this isn't the preferred way of cleaning your hands, soap is. This will also do. Shelves are bare in my area.

3. Chlorox type spray. This is cleared out where I am. You can still find some scented versions.

4. Chlorox wipes. These are still on the shelves.

5. Bleach. I've seen empty shelves at walmart.

I saw an interview today that the Fed Government is going to be requiring some companies to produce masks and gowns and such. They said if they can't get some volunteers, they will use the War Powers Act to require it. Good or bad on the process, it sounds like they are going to be producing them, whether they are plentiful or not, not sure. Thinking they will put limits on the quantity you can buy to prevent black market and hoarding.
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Good call--and the obvious things like Ibuprofen and Acetaminophen also.

Things that are going, fortunately I got them all last week or earlier:

1. N95 or ANY type of mask. Good luck with that. I acquired 24 of them and a UV-C sterelizer box.

2. Hand sanitizer. Although this isn't the preferred way of cleaning your hands, soap is. This will also do. Shelves are bare in my area.

3. Chlorox type spray. This is cleared out where I am. You can still find some scented versions.

4. Chlorox wipes. These are still on the shelves.

5. Bleach. I've seen empty shelves at walmart.

I saw an interview today that the Fed Government is going to be requiring some companies to produce masks and gowns and such. They said if they can't get some volunteers, they will use the War Powers Act to require it. Good or bad on the process, it sounds like they are going to be producing them, whether they are plentiful or not, not sure. Thinking they will put limits on the quantity you can buy to prevent black market and hoarding.
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There's only ONE company that makes masks in the US. One of the owners has been complaining to Washington since 2008 that having all our masks and pep made in china is a huge national security risk. No one listened to him.
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Well done Op!
What you want to also find is cyroheptadine,a first generation antihistamine.

Methylene Blue and bright sunlight have been shown to destroy viruses in bodies. I would add in B2(P5p) and B1 as well. Iwould also consume cocnut oil
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Andrographis prven to stop cytokine storm because it blocks TNK tumor necrosis factor

Quercetin and theanine also stop mast cell activation
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Bought mine last week,OP. Went to walmart earlier tonight in N. GA. I guess alot of people are buying this all these were sold out along with Vit C. Less then a week ago fully stocked. Also cough syrup and flu meds sold out.
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Zantac LOL.....It's banned for having a cancer-causing ingredient. Thread advice fail.
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Yeah, Take Pepcid instead.

There are risks to everything, but a Cytokine Storm is critical. If I had to take something that MIGHT cause cancer with long time use to stop a life threatening situation, then I will take my chances.
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Snake eyes, 7/11. WhAts your bet?
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These are the drugs that will prevent a Cytokine Storm in your body if you get the CV:

Proton Pump Inhibitors: Prilosec

H1 Antagonist: Claritin, Benadryl

H2 Antagonist: Pepcid

These might just save your/loved one life.

Cheap and easy to get. Most of the population does not know so they should be easy to find.
 Quoting: Debug


If one only has Benadryl and Pepcid on hand would that be beneficial or does it need to be all three?
 Quoting: Anna Banana


Absolutely those two will help you if that is all you have.

Any one on it's own would help.
 Quoting: Debug


Thank you! hfhf





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