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Notes from an 'Alternate Universe': The Return of the Blue Kachina

 
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The bridge brings the two worlds together, pulling both sides towards it until the bridge is no longer needed. They are not really separate worlds, just two generally different ways of looking at the same world.
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Obviously, two different views are “we,” which developed technocratically after the industrial revolution, and “you,” who chose your method of perceiving reality. After the unification of our worlds, will both worlds lose their uniqueness?
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Maybe I got so "woke" I realized you were full of shit! Or you weren't full of shit years ago but now you're someone else who took over your account and is a pretender.

I don't understand how anyone following you earlier on could not see through you now.
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Are You Not Entertained?

So you see Jestis as a double agent?
Care to paint the narrative?
Remember the ecsys website when the author of ecsys (Chaol and Metis) were compared to Thomas Edison, John D. Rockefeller, Henry Ford, Albert Einstein, Benjamin Franklin and Abraham Lincoln?
Did you see how Abraham Lincoln and Albert Einstein exposed by this double agent?
Do you see whats coming ahead?
'The Return' once X reaches a solar activity...
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Hey Jestis am looking for insight on future stuffs.

If I was to predict an event I would try to leverage something in your reality to make it happen that way.
 Quoting: SpawnX

It's good that you know right off the bat that it's about manipulating the present and unfolding the future (i.e., directing it)

I am curious how you would approach predicting a Championship world title fight before the fight starts. Eeny, meeny, money, moe.

Does a fight event take play in a series like 1-100? 1 being pre-fight conference 100 being post fight conference.
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There are a few ways of looking at this.

On a basic level, they all happen at the same time. (However, more accurately, they don't happen at all but are all perceived at the same time. This is because when you perceive #1 you are also perceiving #s 2-99 at the same time, though it appears to take longer to perceive).

From the perspective of a human being that does not immediately see 2-99, there are a countless number of possibilities as to what could happen. These possibilities do not actually exist, but only seem to. Because you're not able to look at the event directly (for what it really is), it appears to be many different things at once. For simplicity, let's call these many-different-things-at-once your 1-100.

The reason that we don't perceive 1-100 happening at the same time is because it is counter to the nature of existence. Within #15, for example, there may be a million things going on.. but you don't perceive the million things; just #15

You've built up a world where 1-100 is needed to help uphold the story of your existence. If you were more insecure in your existence then it might take you 'a thousand years' to perceive #15. But since you're not that insecure, it may only take a minute.

You're really asking not how to predict the future, but how to perceive all of this at once. (Just as you perceive your body as one thing, but cells within your body are not aware of the greater self that you call 'me'.)

But now you've entered into a paradox. When you're secure enough to perceive 1-100 all at once (as one entity or thing) then it becomes irrelevant.

How is this so? Imagine a cell in your body that wanted to see things as you see them and perhaps predict what would happen once two proteins combine. Your body is the "1-100" and that one cell is #55. Well, here you are NOW. Not only is the process of proteins combining irrelevant, it's very difficult to perceive.

When you've reached the point where you can see the championship fight at a single thing, you don't perceive it as a fight anymore but something else. That new thing is it to you would be irrelevant to the old you that cared about the outcome of the fight, just as watching the fight is irrelevant to the cell.

I understand the importance of process than just the event finale.

Would one look for themselves in a fighter, which one seems more relative to my experience?
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You wouldn't just see your self in a fighter, but non-persons as well. Most of what you perceive doesn't seem human at all.

But if you were to identify with a particular fighter that seems relative to your experience it would probably be the one you don't want to be :)

Relativity is usually different from what we think it is.

We could say that our immediate perspective contains the things that are most relative to us but, at the same time, need to think about the chaos that we need to interact with that is not relative to us.

That is why a pack of cigarettes could be more relative to a violin than the viola next to it. (As the cigarettes could be interacting with the violin more than does the viola.)

This is difficult to apply to championship fights because nearly all of them are what you could call rigged. Entertainment for the masses is not really left up to chance, because it's one of the most effective ways to control populations. They are sometimes planned many years in advance.

If it was a community race then you'd have to be aware of what each participant was interacting with in order to estimate what the 'future' relationships might be.

And even if the sport isnt pure and AOC at play one could still call it as it is before finale?
 Quoting: SpawnX

How the AOC operate is well beyond the grasp of many to ponder. If one person was an agent of chaos, for example, and somehow the other person wasn't (unlikely) then it doesn't mean that the AOC will win or be victorious. There are plenty of reasons why the AOC set themselves up for failure. It only appears to be failure because we don't understand the game they're playing.

I tend to look for narratives, symbolism, number patterns, things that I interpret that make sense to myself.
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If it makes sense to yourself then there is not much interaction there, so you'd be more likely to subconsciously choose something different so that it could be stronger.

And what could be some dream-like things too look for? I suppose it may be all relative. For example I dreamt I was point of view of a main event fighter and he won in the dream and then in reality.
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We usually remember dreams from the waking perspective, not from the perspective from which it was dreamed.

It's better to set up the dream scene yourself so that you can manage your dreams more closely. I don't mean having an intention to dream something specifically but setting up the framework for your waking mind to operate in the dreamworld, and leaving everything else to chance.

(If you have an intention to dream something, however, you'd probably find that the dream is different than what you intended because you've already satisfied its reality in imagining it in the waking state.)

Just looking to ponder on an alternate way of looking at the unfolding process of a fight event with all the dramas involved.

I know you like specific questions so if I was to ask you.

Who wins Israel Adesanya (crushes a Cuban cigar at ceremonial weigh ins) vs Yoel Romero(Cuban, solider of god, with a win record would be 144)
Who wins Weili Zhang(left china due to coronavirus) vs Joanna Jedrzejczyk (created a gas mask meme pre-fight perceived in negative way)
 Quoting: SpawnX

If the AOC are looking to promote a particular fighter for a future role then it would make sense that they win more fights than not. Otherwise, they would not become popular enough to play the role.

In small championships like this there are probably only a few AOCs at work. Look for who have the best-managed Wikipedia page, for example. Who has a team of people behind them that appear to know what they're doing? Who seems to attract more media?

I would not bet on Yoel Romero, for example, because he would probably attribute his win to Jesus (as he is playing a devout Christian), which is a big no-no.

I am not invested in your final prediction but your logical process to come to a conclusion. I understand that this fight event may be irrelevant to you and therefore logic wouldn't extend to making a prediction in such a short amount of time. I just seek some new ideas that I could ponder upon in the fight game as it unfolds and in different areas of perspective. Thanks.
 Quoting: SpawnX

You may find it more effective to manipulate the present to get the future you want.
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Hello. This is the phone mail system. You have new messages:

... That's why the transition is very slow takes generations. Everything needs to be changed, not just one aspect of waking life. [78157702]
 Quoting: Jestis


How many generations deep are we?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Twelve down, one more to go.
 Quoting: Jestis


The one we are living in now?

So we’re approaching the point where everything’s changed? Inverted? Right side up?

Like the light in the distance isn’t so distant anymore?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Yes, from "2020".

So we’re approaching the point where everything’s changed? Inverted? Right side up?

Like the light in the distance isn’t so distant anymore?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

I think we're approaching a point where the inversion becomes obvious, and accepted.

And when we are more comfortable knowing that we are, essentially, Satan, then we will begin to see things very differently.
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I'm sorry, you don't sound at all like the original Chaol.
 Quoting: VersionTwo

Is that what you need?

Version one?

I would hope that we can allow others to change and become more of who they really are. It doesn't mean that you would like what they are or were or will be (as others do not change for us).
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Welcome back!

I noticed someone else became the placeholder and now, we're all back, lol!
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Thank you :) Nice to see you again.
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At just about any time in America's history you have the following:

-Massive wealth transfer
-Misinformation/Disinformation
-Loss of rights
-More political shenanigans
-The outbreak in America intensifies. Along with the fear. And disinformation.

"Now' seems more important than "then" but pretty much the same things are happening.
 Quoting: Jestis


So, it’s a pattern. But, now is when I’m alive, experiencing it!
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Because it is 'now' it seems more intense.

But 'now' is all ways that way. It's just with different things. Some of those things may make us more afraid if that's how we think of it, though.
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Maybe I got so "woke" I realized you were full of shit! Or you weren't full of shit years ago but now you're someone else who took over your account and is a pretender.

I don't understand how anyone following you earlier on could not see through you now.
 Quoting: VersionTwo

Yep! That's it exactly.

Thanks for the bump. (But it seems you've followed me here and will probably post again.)

Regardless, the internet is big enough for the two of you :)
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"Now' seems more important than "then" but pretty much the same things are happening.
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Sorry. Does this mean spiral movement? Thanks for attention.
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Hello. This is the phone mail system. You have new messages:

 Quoting: Jestis


Jestis, Warm greeting!

Have you randomly chosen a date for starting communication with us 02.02.2020? Reminds me behind the looking glass.

I would be grateful for the answer.
 Quoting: razvitie

It's best not to choose such dates, I think. Nexus points (where there is greater energy flow) tend to happen before or after, not during.

(The date and year are completely wrong.)

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It's best not to choose such dates, I think. Nexus points (where there is greater energy flow) tend to happen before or after, not during.

(The date and year are completely wrong.)
 Quoting: Jestis


Energy is a measure of the transition of matter from one form to another. You want to say that the magnitude of the flow depends on the dates? What connection does the time reference system have to the movement?
  Thank you for your development assistance.
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The bridge brings the two worlds together, pulling both sides towards it until the bridge is no longer needed. They are not really separate worlds, just two generally different ways of looking at the same world.
 Quoting: Jestis


Obviously, two different views are “we,” which developed technocratically after the industrial revolution, and “you,” who chose your method of perceiving reality. After the unification of our worlds, will both worlds lose their uniqueness?
 Quoting: razvitie

Characteristics of both are converging, and a hybrid kind of world would 'result'. Aside from the 'new world' there would be a greater Earth (a more 'hellish' place, so to speak) and a greater metaphysical world.

People that 'remain' in this world would notice that it is more dense than before, whereas people that make the transition would notice that it is less dense than before. The new world would become the dreamworld for the more dense Earth, and the greater metaphysical world would become the new dreamworld for the less dense Earth.

Yet, I think almost no one would recognise that any transition has been made.
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"Now' seems more important than "then" but pretty much the same things are happening.
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Sorry. Does this mean spiral movement? Thanks for attention.
 Quoting: razvitie

If there's any spiral there's no movement, just spiral-like proportions.

In a similar way, we can see our own selves differently than we did last week or last year. There was no movement, but a change in perspective.
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Characteristics of both are converging, and a hybrid kind of world would 'result'. Aside from the 'new world' there would be a greater Earth (a more 'hellish' place, so to speak) and a greater metaphysical world.

People that 'remain' in this world would notice that it is more dense than before, whereas people that make the transition would notice that it is less dense than before. The new world would become the dreamworld for the more dense Earth, and the greater metaphysical world would become the new dreamworld for the less dense Earth.

Yet, I think almost no one would recognise that any transition has been made.
 Quoting: Jestis


Let me know when you talk about the characteristics, you mean constant values, such as the number pi = 3.14, g = 9.8, ...?
  When worlds merge, will the “density” flow from one world to another?
   What is the functional need for a merger if the changes are not tangible? Each action has its own semantic "load". But in the case of a merger, meaning is lost. I need clarification about this.
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It's best not to choose such dates, I think. Nexus points (where there is greater energy flow) tend to happen before or after, not during.

(The date and year are completely wrong.)
 Quoting: Jestis


Energy is a measure of the transition of matter from one form to another.
 Quoting: razvitie

If you imagine a large room, there are certain spots that you can stand where energy (in the form of sound) reverberates more easily.

There are other kinds of energies that do the same, but perhaps in different spots that are not related to physical hearing.

Also, points in space where this energy flows more easily.

Energy doesn't really have a definition, as there is no thing that isn't energy. I tend to call it perspective, as the forms it takes are all born there.

You want to say that the magnitude of the flow depends on the dates? What connection does the time reference system have to the movement?
  Thank you for your development assistance.
 Quoting: razvitie

The dates are meaningless. We make them up as we go along. We attach meaning to them. In that way, we can create a 'nexus point' with any random date, and our perspective can 'bend' around it, so to speak.

What connection does the time reference system have to the movement?
  Thank you for your development assistance.
 Quoting: razvitie

There is no real movement, only the relationship between things being perceived.

In the sense that you're referring to, however, time would be the movement itself.
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If there's any spiral there's no movement, just spiral-like proportions.

In a similar way, we can see our own selves differently than we did last week or last year. There was no movement, but a change in perspective.
 Quoting: Jestis


In the physical sense: motion is a change in spatial coordinates per unit time. We feel the movement, as the position of the "body" relative to other "bodies" changes. We perceive time as a stream of events from the past to the future through the present (for linear time). Explain the movement of perspective? Since the perspective is the display of objects on any surface in accordance with those apparent reductions in their size, changes in the shape and black and white relationships that are observed in nature.
  Thank you for your patience.
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Let me know when you talk about the characteristics, you mean constant values, such as the number pi = 3.14, g = 9.8, ...?
   What is the functional need for a merger if the changes are not tangible? Each action has its own semantic "load". But in the case of a merger, meaning is lost. I need clarification about this.
 Quoting: razvitie

Constants are just made up concepts to hide the reality.

"Pi" is not a constant, for example. The 'laws of nature' are more of a scientific construct meant to push a certain narrative. They are completely effective within the realm of that narrative, so for those purposes they are constant and can never be changed.

If you were to know the real values, you would be able to figure other things out that the agents of chaos would prefer to stay hidden.

Why does it need to stay hidden? There is no other way to manage the world's population.

  When worlds merge, will the “density” flow from one world to another?
 Quoting: razvitie

I would use the word merging for convenience. You can also call it destruction.

Nothing needs to flow from one perspective to an other because there is but one perspective.

   What is the functional need for a merger if the changes are not tangible? Each action has its own semantic "load". But in the case of a merger, meaning is lost. I need clarification about this.
 Quoting: razvitie

Something not being noticed does not mean it doesn't have value. We don't notice the things happening within our bodies, for example. We don't need to notice any changes for something to have value to us, also.
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If there's any spiral there's no movement, just spiral-like proportions.

In a similar way, we can see our own selves differently than we did last week or last year. There was no movement, but a change in perspective.
 Quoting: Jestis


In the physical sense: motion is a change in spatial coordinates per unit time. We feel the movement, as the position of the "body" relative to other "bodies" changes. We perceive time as a stream of events from the past to the future through the present (for linear time).
 Quoting: razvitie

This is more of a mainstream scientific definition. It works, and is workable.

Explain the movement of perspective? Since the perspective is the display of objects on any surface in accordance with those apparent reductions in their size, changes in the shape and black and white relationships that are observed in nature.
  Thank you for your patience.
 Quoting: razvitie

Why would the universe need to move?

There is no real movement, only the appearance of movement.

To take an example, two radio towers can send a message between themselves, miles apart. Your voice, encoded in the message, does not actually move anywhere. But it seems to.

Indeed, the person on the other end is not hearing your voice. But they seem to.

Actual movement would be a complete waste of energy. Only the illusion is needed, and is just as effective.
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If you imagine a large room, there are certain spots that you can stand where energy (in the form of sound) reverberates more easily.

There are other kinds of energies that do the same, but perhaps in different spots that are not related to physical hearing.

Also, points in space where this energy flows more easily.

Energy doesn't really have a definition, as there is no thing that isn't energy. I tend to call it perspective, as the forms it takes are all born there.

You want to say that the magnitude of the flow depends on the dates? What connection does the time reference system have to the movement?
  Thank you for your development assistance.
 Quoting: razvitie

The dates are meaningless. We make them up as we go along. We attach meaning to them. In that way, we can create a 'nexus point' with any random date, and our perspective can 'bend' around it, so to speak.

What connection does the time reference system have to the movement?
  Thank you for your development assistance.
 Quoting: razvitie

There is no real movement, only the relationship between things being perceived.

In the sense that you're referring to, however, time would be the movement itself.
 Quoting: Jestis


If the energy at different points moves with different fluidity, then space is not uniform. Different points of space cover different resistance to movement. Then does space have a structure that persists in time?
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Blue thread, family line
Red thread, continuing element
Sonata form
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Let me know when you talk about the characteristics, you mean constant values, such as the number pi = 3.14, g = 9.8, ...?
   What is the functional need for a merger if the changes are not tangible? Each action has its own semantic "load". But in the case of a merger, meaning is lost. I need clarification about this.
 Quoting: razvitie

Constants are just made up concepts to hide the reality.

"Pi" is not a constant, for example. The 'laws of nature' are more of a scientific construct meant to push a certain narrative. They are completely effective within the realm of that narrative, so for those purposes they are constant and can never be changed.

If you were to know the real values, you would be able to figure other things out that the agents of chaos would prefer to stay hidden.

Why does it need to stay hidden? There is no other way to manage the world's population.

  When worlds merge, will the “density” flow from one world to another?
 Quoting: razvitie

I would use the word merging for convenience. You can also call it destruction.

Nothing needs to flow from one perspective to an other because there is but one perspective.

   What is the functional need for a merger if the changes are not tangible? Each action has its own semantic "load". But in the case of a merger, meaning is lost. I need clarification about this.
 Quoting: razvitie

Something not being noticed does not mean it doesn't have value. We don't notice the things happening within our bodies, for example. We don't need to notice any changes for something to have value to us, also.
 Quoting: Jestis


"Pi" is not a constant
The ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter is the same for all circles. In nature, it is not possible to meet a wheel with a different ratio.

There is no other way to manage the world's population.
Stupid thirst for power?

Something not being noticed does not mean it doesn't have value.
If we did not try to learn everything around, development would not occur. By observing patterns, do we learn to control our lives?
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Why would the universe need to move?

There is no real movement, only the appearance of movement.

To take an example, two radio towers can send a message between themselves, miles apart. Your voice, encoded in the message, does not actually move anywhere. But it seems to.

Indeed, the person on the other end is not hearing your voice. But they seem to.

Actual movement would be a complete waste of energy. Only the illusion is needed, and is just as effective.
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In the above example with radio towers, movement occurs by modulating a high-frequency signal with a low-frequency signal received from a microphone that converted the voice into pulses. These pulses on the second radio tower are converted into a voice with a speaker. It turns out there is a medium (electromagnetic waves) that moves. What is the medium that moves perspective from the past to the future?
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Actual movement would be a complete waste of energy.
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Energy is indestructible. She is only being transformed. Or is the source depleted?
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Healing of the blindman





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